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C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Chaika The Coffin Princess (Hitsugi no Chaika) is a anime adaption of a light novel series by Ichiro Sakaki, the author of Scrapped Princess, it's being animated by BONES with Masui Souichi (Scrapped Princess, RahXephon) as the director.

Story:

Crunchyroll and ANN posted:

The year is 1604. On the continent of Verbist, an age of war lasting for three generations finally ended with the fall of the northern nation, the Gaz Empire. In addition to legitimate knights and soldiers, the militant forces sent to battle included wizards, saboteurs, and mercenaries, totaling 620,000. What's more, three airborne strongholds and massive numbers of magical weapons plus beast and dragon cavalries were added to the ranks, ending in the annihilation of the Gaz Empire, which had been deemed "the root of all evil."

Tooru Acura is a 20-year-old retired soldier meandering through life now that the war has ended. He encounters Chaika Trabant, a 14-year-old sorceress carrying a coffin, and follows her in hopes of finding meaning to his life again. The two travel with Tooru's adopted sister, Akari, the employed member of the group and thus Tooru's source of income.

Cast:


Chaika Trabant (VA: Anzai Chika)
A young sorceress with a magic PTRD she carries around in a coffin, doesn't mince words.


Tooru Acura (Left, VA: Majima Junji)
A lazy and poor former sapper, though in this setting it appears as if sappers are more magic commandos than combat engineers. Meets Chaika while gathering edible plants/getting attacked by a unicorn, subsequently hired by her to break into a mansion and steal a magical artifact.

Akari Acura (Right, VA: Hara Yuuko)
Tooru's adopted sister and also a former sapper.


Alberic Gillette and company
Apparently associated with "the Postwar Restoration Agency", they are after the same magical artifact that that Chaika is seeking.

Why should I watch this?
The animation is decent, the choreography and action is pretty good, and the setting seems like it'll be a bit more interesting than your usual generic fantasy setting. Personally the whole setup really reminds me of Pumpkin Scissors, a group of people traveling through a country after the end of a long war.


Where can I watch/read this?
Crunchyroll simulcasts it on Wednesdays at 11:00am Pacific. There's also a manga, but it and the LN don't appear to have been licensed yet.

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Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

If there's one thing I've learned from reading the Malazan books it's 'Don't gently caress with a sapper', good to see this is following in fine tradition.

madmac
Jun 22, 2010
For as much as this borrows from Scrapped Princess, I think the setup has more potential. Scrapped Princess suffered from using really generic stock characters and JRPG tropes. You had invincible Sword Bro, Invincible Wizard Sis, and useless whiny Princess Girl. They were all well written characters, but still...

So far Ninja Siblings and Magic Tank-Gun Girl lends itself to much more clever action scenes and the central mystery seems a bit more involved as well. I just hope it doesn't get as...weird as Scrapped Princess got near the end, or at least doesn't recycle the same twist.

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Im liking the show. The cast being a speech impaired magic sniper rifle wielding big eyebrow princess, either brain injured or absurdist genius sister and no nonsense sociopath brother has it being one of the most bizarre motley crew of protagonists Ive seen in anime recently.

Seriously Tooru outright telling the noble heroic guy that he would enjoy the return of war to the land was a breath of fresh air. I hope it sticks rather than turning out he didnt really mean it.

I also found how the two potentially brain damaged girls communicate with each other pretty drat funny.
Akari-"Chaika?:colbert:"
Chaka- "Yes.Chaika.:geno:"
Akari- "Chaika:smug:"
Translation I will provide a diversion, cast a spell in the meantime to secure my brother and I's escape

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

I personally enjoy that so far, it's pretty much "please help me give daddy a proper burial".

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.
Liking it pretty well. It's standard anime fantasy action fare, but well done, so that's enough for me to be interested. I could do without the moeblob princess with chuu2 powers, but said powers are pretty cool and despite her writing, her character is actually pretty good.

The post-war commentary is pretty :smith:. Damaged soldier who can't even get a job in peace-time and would jump at a chance to return to war, the only way he knows how to live... war orphan who only wants to recover her father's body to give him a proper burial and get some closure... rear end in a top hat ruler who's profiteering off of stolen war spoils, etc.

It'll be interesting to what the "peace" the world has finally claimed actually looks like as we progress.

Also the huge monster at the beginning was real cool and so was Fayla the crazy grotesque unicorn.

Damegane
May 7, 2013
Chuu2 powers what? It's just standard fantasy do-anything magic, except the usual wand/staff/magic seal on body thingy is a big rifle instead.

Blhue
Apr 22, 2008

Fallen Rib

Damegane posted:

Chuu2 powers what? It's just standard fantasy do-anything magic, except the usual wand/staff/magic seal on body thingy is a big rifle instead.

I think they're referring more to when the siblings chant their dumb chant and then glow red.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Damegane posted:

Chuu2 powers what? It's just standard fantasy do-anything magic, except the usual wand/staff/magic seal on body thingy is a big rifle instead.

The crazy magic rifle (in a medieval fantasy setting, to boot) is specifically what I'm thinking of.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


Blhue posted:

I think they're referring more to when the siblings chant their dumb chant and then glow red.

I actually like that. It seems to be one part magic chant and one part soldier creed.
If I was training a regiment of elite soldiers, I'd totally do something like that. Even if it didn't cause a red power-up.

EDIT: It also encourages distancing one's emotion from one's actions and dehumanizes the enemy. That's pretty good.

Seraphic Neoman fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Apr 20, 2014

Redcrimson
Mar 3, 2008

Second-stage Midboss Syndrome
My favorite part about this show is that at no point does any character stop to monologue about what their magic powers do or how they work.

ExiledTinkerer
Nov 4, 2009
I am always almost up for some quality invocation action in my anime and such, so this has been pretty nice so far. So many shows don't bother with any sort of intrigue in this regard, so it is always refreshing to see one hopefully going in on it.

Other fans of Awesome Talking would also get a kick out of the old Shadow Skill OVA and TV series among others---avoid the horrid 3D CG thing they made some years back just to spite the fans and twist the knife.

Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

Redcrimson posted:

My favorite part about this show is that at no point does any character stop to monologue about what their magic powers do or how they work.

I like that fights are won using strategy rather than power levels. That said, I still expect our protagonist to get some massive powerup at some point.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
So was the protagonist a child soldier, or did the war end not long after he completed his training, or what? The characters in this show seem artificially young for how they act and what they can do(not that that is at all uncommon for anime or anything). Like, if you'd asked me to guess their ages I'd have told you numbers 4 or 5 higher than what they actually are according to the OP.

Blhue
Apr 22, 2008

Fallen Rib
There is a manga of this, but scanlation of it isn't very far (group is slow as poo poo), and we'll probably be caught up to it by episode 4-5. Not gonna be many people here who know significant spoilers.

Roflfox
Jan 29, 2008

Your one and only, scorching laser light

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Akari-"Chaika?:colbert:"
Chaka- "Yes.Chaika.:geno:"
Akari- "Chaika:smug:"
Translation I will provide a diversion, cast a spell in the meantime to secure my brother and I's escape



Though I do wonder what the deal is with the speech thing. Chaika sounds just fine when she's thinking in her own head (spoilers maybe? It's a page from the first ep). Maybe the language spoken in the show isn't her first? It's still funny either way.

Tooru's op pic needs to be this by the way:



As for the show, I'm pleasantly surprised, especially given how it didn't sound like all that much in the description in the Spring thread. I hope the show can stay this entertaining throughout the whole run.

Roflfox fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Apr 20, 2014

Overlord K
Jun 14, 2009

paragon1 posted:

So was the protagonist a child soldier, or did the war end not long after he completed his training, or what? The characters in this show seem artificially young for how they act and what they can do(not that that is at all uncommon for anime or anything). Like, if you'd asked me to guess their ages I'd have told you numbers 4 or 5 higher than what they actually are according to the OP.

That is a detail that should be covered eventually. The siblings both have a shared background that explains quite a bit about why they both have those skills at their age. I'm actually quite curious about when they'll show it, since it set the mood for the manga nicely for me when I was reading the manga.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Okay cool. I thought maybe the setting just operated like Resident Evil where if you aren't a top specialist in three fields by the time you're 16 you're a loving failure.

Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

Roflfox posted:

Though I do wonder what the deal is with the speech thing. Chaika sounds just fine when she's thinking in her own head (spoilers maybe? It's a page from the first ep). Maybe the language spoken in the show isn't her first? It's still funny either way.

Yeah, I've just been assuming that she's speaking using a language that isn't native to her.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
The war was only a year or two ago, right? If Tooru joined at around 16 (on the young end for a soldier, but not implausible), that would give him a decent amount of combat experience to work with.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

XboxPants posted:

The crazy magic rifle (in a medieval fantasy setting, to boot) is specifically what I'm thinking of.

Don't forget about the Steampunk 18 wheeler.

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022

Roflfox posted:

Though I do wonder what the deal is with the speech thing. Chaika sounds just fine when she's thinking in her own head (spoilers maybe? It's a page from the first ep). Maybe the language spoken in the show isn't her first?

Shakugan posted:

Yeah, I've just been assuming that she's speaking using a language that isn't native to her.

That was my assumption as well but it didn't make a whole lot of sense if the setting is her dad's former empire so why wouldn't she be speaking whatever everyone else is. I find her the most obnoxious part of the show so it's less that I'm curious and more that I wish there weren't things like this making her even more annoying.

XboxPants
Jan 30, 2006

Steven doesn't want me watching him sleep anymore.

Shakugan posted:

Yeah, I've just been assuming that she's speaking using a language that isn't native to her.

That's a good point, and that page from the manga seems to support it, so that makes me feel a little better about it. It also gives hope that she might get at least a little more fluent as the series goes.

Also agreed the invocations are pretty neat. The siblings don't seem to be considered "wizards", despite that chant; they briefly showed a magic seal on Toru's palm, I wonder if that ability is something a Wizard gave/did to them?

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Darth Walrus posted:

The war was only a year or two ago, right? If Tooru joined at around 16 (on the young end for a soldier, but not implausible), that would give him a decent amount of combat experience to work with.

They said "5 years ago" in the second episode.

Redcrimson
Mar 3, 2008

Second-stage Midboss Syndrome

Everything Burrito posted:

That was my assumption as well but it didn't make a whole lot of sense if the setting is her dad's former empire so why wouldn't she be speaking whatever everyone else is.

It's likely they instated a new national language when he was overthrown. That's pretty common.

Lord Koth
Jan 8, 2012

Umm, her father didn't control the entire world. In other words, the war that lead to his death wasn't a rebellion, but multiple other countries banded together. The heroes returned home with their "prizes" after the war and that's where Chaika's looking for them. I'm not sure where the assumption that they're wandering around his former empire is coming from.


As for the siblings and their skills, it's actually reasonably explained, somewhat depressingly so, but I'll wait and see if the anime covers their background before talking any more about that.


Incidentally there was a wordpress site that was translating the actual LNs, and had basically finished the first 3, that I spotted last week, but it seems to be missing now.

Allarion
May 16, 2009

がんばルビ!

Cao Ni Ma posted:

I also found how the two potentially brain damaged girls communicate with each other pretty drat funny.
Akari-"Chaika?:colbert:"
Chaka- "Yes.Chaika.:geno:"
Akari- "Chaika:smug:"
Translation I will provide a diversion, cast a spell in the meantime to secure my brother and I's escape

Alternately it was in response to the guy saying "You don't even know who she truly is." Still a funny conversation regardless though.

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022

Lord Koth posted:

Umm, her father didn't control the entire world. In other words, the war that lead to his death wasn't a rebellion, but multiple other countries banded together. The heroes returned home with their "prizes" after the war and that's where Chaika's looking for them. I'm not sure where the assumption that they're wandering around his former empire is coming from.

I will admit that I wasn't paying a huge amount of attention to every detail but this was not immediately apparent to me from the first two episodes. I interpreted the war as an uprising within the guy's empire (and since he was called Emperor I assume he had one) rather than coming from separate external countries. Thanks for the clarification though, that does make a little more sense.

Liver Disaster
Mar 31, 2012

no more tears

Also a thought is that the Trabant is an east German automobile that was fairly recently discontinued after a few decades of being unchanged, which I feel lends to the idea that she simply isn't a local.

Annointed posted:

I personally enjoy that so far, it's pretty much "please help me give daddy a proper burial".

Krak, pow, straight to the heart.

edit: If I had been paying attention I'd have noticed that they're all automotive names.

Liver Disaster fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Apr 21, 2014

AVeryLargeRadish
Aug 19, 2011

I LITERALLY DON'T KNOW HOW TO NOT BE A WEIRD SEXUAL CREEP ABOUT PREPUBESCENT ANIME GIRLS, READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE!!!
I'm liking this more than the mediocre character art and premise led me to believe I would. The stand out scene for me was the fight scene with the swordsman on the bridge, it was really easy to follow what each character was doing and the fight flowed really well.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Everything Burrito posted:

I will admit that I wasn't paying a huge amount of attention to every detail but this was not immediately apparent to me from the first two episodes. I interpreted the war as an uprising within the guy's empire (and since he was called Emperor I assume he had one) rather than coming from separate external countries. Thanks for the clarification though, that does make a little more sense.

Even if it was an uprising, what we've been told so far suggests the empire was huge. It's very likely that the conquered territories had their own languages, which likely achieved new prominence after their occupiers got booted out.

Demicol
Nov 8, 2009

Everything Burrito posted:

That was my assumption as well but it didn't make a whole lot of sense if the setting is her dad's former empire so why wouldn't she be speaking whatever everyone else is. I find her the most obnoxious part of the show so it's less that I'm curious and more that I wish there weren't things like this making her even more annoying.

Really? It's the exact opposite for me, I really like her speech style & character.
This show is definitely the highlight of the season for me so far.

Everything Burrito
Jun 2, 2011

I Failed At Anime 2022

Demicol posted:

Really? It's the exact opposite for me, I really like her speech style & character.
This show is definitely the highlight of the season for me so far.

I watched the first episode out of curiosity because it got talked up so much, and was moderately interested by the male lead's abilities and the fight choreography so I watched another episode and it continued to provide those things. Other than that, the rest of the show is pretty blah to me. I was planning to just marathon the rest when it was out so that when there are more scenes like that stupid bread explosion thing I can skip through them.

DawnOfMinstrel
Jun 27, 2013
Man, so far the only highlights for me were the fights and "Chaika? Chaika." I feel like the anime isn't conveying the setting really well - in FMA we knew who an alchemist is from almost minute one. After two episodes I still have no idea what Toru and his sis are, nor do I understand what their powers are, aside form glowing red.

Also, the plot is Antigone. Or Castlevania 2.

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Well we now know more of Chaika. Amnesiac, engineer and out of the country before the war. It was pretty smart of the father to have doubles to protect his daughter, but why didn't he just do that for himself to escape with her?

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.

Annointed posted:

Well we now know more of Chaika. Amnesiac, engineer and out of the country before the war. It was pretty smart of the father to have doubles to protect his daughter, but why didn't he just do that for himself to escape with her?
I bet he did. And I bet Chiaka is actually a clone of the emperor.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Also, calling it now - Guy is a magical AI.

Redcrimson
Mar 3, 2008

Second-stage Midboss Syndrome
Yeah, put me in the Chaika is a magical clone camp.

And I hate comparing this show to Scrapped Princess at every turn, but the show is making it really hard not to. Guy seems like a blatant rehashing of Zephyrous from Scrapped Princess. It's a touch distracting, honestly.

Dan7el
Dec 7, 2008

Never saw Scrapped Princess. Now I have to go look it up.

Who'da thought running around town carrying a honking big casket would cause people to stare?

I have to admit, the whole idea of the saboteur thingy is pretty interesting. They say the magic words and they become these uber-warriors. I'd like some backstory on that. Also, are the two really brother and sister? I get the idea they're not flesh-and-blood siblings.

Are the uber saboteur's respected or not? Seems like not, but yet our hero-dude seems pretty darn capable. You'd think the guys chasing them would have a better respect for that particular warrior class.

The ending of this particular episode was pretty lame, I think. Or stupid or both. Our hero-boy shows himself to be very capable and then does something like this? Also, I didn't quite understand what was going on with all that electricity.

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Guyver
Dec 5, 2006

Dan7el posted:

Also, I didn't quite understand what was going on with all that electricity.
The wolves chasing them had a second head that shot lighting.

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