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If the new F4 movie doesn't bomb and end up with the rights going back to Marvel I'll be really surprised.
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Gatts posted:Like is Uatu an FF character? Probably, outside of this he's really only been a major character in FF stuff. Galactus has more ties to other characters probably.
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Sep 8, 2014 09:03
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Am I the only one who is going to miss Uatu? I liked the guy.
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Sep 8, 2014 12:40
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Baron Bifford posted:Am I the only one who is going to miss Uatu? I liked the guy. Give it a couple of years and he'll be back.
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Sep 8, 2014 13:07
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Pfft years? Try half a year or less, most of Aaron's big changes have had the shelf life of a banana under a heat lamp.
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Sep 8, 2014 14:12
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SirDan3k posted:Pfft years? Try half a year or less, most of Aaron's big changes have had the shelf life of a banana under a heat lamp. The Schism has been going on for a couple of years at this point.
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Sep 8, 2014 14:16
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TheJoker138 posted:If the new F4 movie doesn't bomb and end up with the rights going back to Marvel I'll be really surprised. They announced production of a second F4 movie before they finished filming the first one, this is a pipe dream. For some of these studios, the only thing worse than a movie bombing is losing the rights to a property to Disney.
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Sep 8, 2014 14:24
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SirDan3k posted:Pfft years? Try half a year or less, most of Aaron's big changes have had the shelf life of a banana under a heat lamp. Such as?
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Sep 8, 2014 14:28
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The watcher had a kid right before he died so maybe the kid will take his place. Or maybe Uatu will just come back because he can.
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Sep 8, 2014 16:17
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TheJoker138 posted:If the new F4 movie doesn't bomb and end up with the rights going back to Marvel I'll be really surprised. As much as I would love to see this, there will never be a good Fantastic Four movie regardless of who owns the rights.
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Sep 8, 2014 16:38
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:As much as I would love to see this, there will never be a good Fantastic Four movie regardless of who owns the rights. 
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Sep 8, 2014 17:32
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Yes a Fantastic Four movie would be great if Reed was Homer.
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Sep 8, 2014 18:14
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Waterhaul posted:Such as? He basically rewrote the Ghost Rider mythos and that as well as the whole set up he put in place was dropped as soon as he was off the book.
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Sep 8, 2014 19:10
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Uatu isn't really important enough that it's inconceivable to think he'll stay dead a while.
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Sep 8, 2014 19:15
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In the last issue of Original Sin, Uatu says he has "seen too much" and allows Fury to kill him. Is it specifically Fury's crimes that made him lose the will to live?
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Sep 8, 2014 19:19
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Baron Bifford posted:In the last issue of Original Sin, Uatu says he has "seen too much" and allows Fury to kill him. Is it specifically Fury's crimes that made him lose the will to live? No since Fury has been doing it for a long time and he has been aware of it.
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Sep 8, 2014 19:23
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So Uatu allowed himself to be killed because he didn't want to kill in self-defense?
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Sep 8, 2014 19:24
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Baron Bifford posted:So Uatu allowed himself to be killed because he didn't want to kill in self-defense? Self-defense counts as interfering. But being murdered is also interfering. The entire thing was just a ruse to get Fury to tape Uatu's favorite shows while he's on vacation. This doesn't count as interfering to the Watchers because it's basically setting their DVR.
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Sep 9, 2014 00:53
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Uatu is dead? No, Uatu is a dead beat dad. Honey I'm pregnant! Oh..uh, whoops totally accidentataly set my own murder gotta go bye!
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Sep 9, 2014 00:56
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Bar Crow posted:Self-defense counts as interfering. But being murdered is also interfering. Baron Bifford fucked around with this message at 02:58 on Sep 9, 2014 |
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Sep 9, 2014 02:53
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I totally read that a bit differently. The Watcher got his place busted into and he didn't defend his WMDs or his eye. Fury shows up and sees this and is all "WTF, why didn't you stop these crazies!" Then Fury realizes that Uata chose not interefere and makes the connection that his eye contains his knowledge, and gets really loving pissed off at him for not acting, plus a little self-righteous/greedy because he realizes with the Watcher's eye he could defend Earth even better. Watcher realizes what Fury realizes and pushes him to do it by forcing Fury to kill him. It was like 50% suicide 50% self defense. The only reason I say suicide is because he had foreknowledge of the event.
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Sep 9, 2014 04:21
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Weird. Watchers are weird.
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Sep 9, 2014 07:32
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Of course, if Uatu were really ever down with the whole non-interference thing, he'd at least go and cloak his house and not just leave it sittin' there on the moon where anyone can just pop in and have a barbecue. poo poo, at least put your superweapons on Mars if you insist on not locking your doors/hiding, that'd at least put 'em somewhere where people would need a super-science ship to reach you. Any ol' schmoe can reach the moon these days 
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Sep 9, 2014 09:27
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TwoPair posted:Of course, if Uatu were really ever down with the whole non-interference thing, he'd at least go and cloak his house and not just leave it sittin' there on the moon where anyone can just pop in and have a barbecue. poo poo, at least put your superweapons on Mars if you insist on not locking your doors/hiding, that'd at least put 'em somewhere where people would need a super-science ship to reach you. Any ol' schmoe can reach the moon these days If Uatu was ever really down with the non-interference thing, none of us would know who he was. He gave the Fantastic Four the Ultimate Nullifier in one of his earliest appearences, if that isn't interfering I don't know what is.
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Sep 9, 2014 09:33
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So the LMD space base disappeared off panel, Not Quite Marvel Max Fury is now Watcher. Does anyone else feel like we are now going to have a bunch of LMDs of Fury running around everywhere being proactive and poo poo under the guidance of Old Man Watcher Fury? I mean he wouldn't be interfering not really, plus he isn't beholden to the original's race decision of not interfering. It almost feels like the time Half Jordan became The Spectre and he's around visiting saying he can't interfere, but his squad of LMDs and Bucky are everywhere killing the poo poo out of poo poo! There's going to be some kind of event where he flips the bird at the other watchers starts some war and they get fed up and give him back his youth and relieve him of said duties cause he'd be such a pain in the rear end.
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Sep 9, 2014 11:17
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Skwirl posted:If Uatu was ever really down with the non-interference thing, none of us would know who he was. He gave the Fantastic Four the Ultimate Nullifier in one of his earliest appearences, if that isn't interfering I don't know what is. That was the entire point of the Watcher in that story. He broke his vow because he didn't want Galactus destroying Earth. You later find out in Thor that Uatu felt responsible for Galactus because he found him before he was fully formed, and didn't choose to end him when he had the chance.
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Sep 9, 2014 17:10
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Isn't the entire deal for Galactus that killing him would be even worse for the universe?
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Kaleidoscope posted:Isn't the entire deal for Galactus that killing him would be even worse for the universe? That's still a lot of bodies for the health of the universe. People freak out over Namor killing one earth Galactus has eaten countless earth level planets.
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Sep 9, 2014 17:21
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Gavok posted:Also, Deadpool's daughter is still alive and, while we don't know the details, Deadpool killed his own parents. Also, Nova's father is still alive and was an evil, thieving Black Nova. Though not really, as revealed in the latest issue of Nova
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Kaleidoscope posted:Isn't the entire deal for Galactus that killing him would be even worse for the universe?
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Baron Bifford posted:Galactus is just a big predator and Reed should never have passed up his opportunities to destroy Galactus. Reed would be dead without Galactus. And Franklin has him behaving. Hell, he's not even in our universe anymore.
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Baron Bifford posted:I think it's a bit stupid that Galactus must be depicted as some force of nature who plays some essential role in the cosmic order and thus must accepted. I think it's because it's a bit disturbing for us humans to conceive a predator above us on the food chain. Is an anteater a great cosmic force to an ant colony? Galactus is just a big predator and Reed should never have passed up his opportunities to destroy Galactus. Well, it's a product of human beings needing to play an essential role in the cosmic order. But aside from that, I don't think it's any kind of mystic universal balancing stuff, it still makes sense using the predator on the food chain analogy. He just happens to be a very old and pretty wise predator. Ants can't reason with others and neither can anteaters, but humans and Galactuses can. He's still a cosmic level force to us, but he's not mindless. I don't think it's absurd to imagine that he could be reasoned with. The Celestials always seemed far more intrinsically fundamental to the MU and inconceivable to humans. I also think he was being truthful with the Galactus Seed stuff in FF, albeit with a healthy dose of vested self-preservation. Another younger and more reckless Galactus will take his place eventually. You can read that as some sort of fated cosmic balance stuff too, but I think it can work with the predator stuff too. Maybe the universe can support one apex Galactus at a time and the prey is better off with a status quo they understand. You don't want to kill off your Mufasa and get a Scar.
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Ror posted:Another younger and more reckless Galactus will take his place eventually. "gently caress YOU FRANKLIN RICHARDS, I AIN'T YOUR HERALD" *turns giant pink hat sideways, skateboards away from Earth*
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Sep 17, 2014 07:17
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I don't know if it's still canon or whatever but in the first Galactus story ever Uatu mentioned that Galactus can't lie.
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Sep 17, 2014 16:16
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Web Jew.0 posted:I don't know if it's still canon or whatever but in the first Galactus story ever Uatu mentioned that Galactus can't lie. I'm now wondering situations in which Galactus would ever need to lie. "I mean it, Luke. I forgot your money in my ship. I'll have it next month"
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Sep 17, 2014 17:00
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Without Galactus, the Annihilation Wave would have conquered the universe.
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Sep 17, 2014 17:10
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The Annihilation Wave couldn't even defeat the Kree.
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Sep 17, 2014 20:06
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So Original Sin: Thor & Loki kinda ends with a dud, and was kinda hoping it would have revealed what made Thor so unworthy. Also Uncanny X-Men tie in is just loving trolling in how it just keeps going and going it's almost as bad as some Mangas.
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Jiro posted:So Original Sin: Thor & Loki kinda ends with a dud, and was kinda hoping it would have revealed what made Thor so unworthy. It was not revealed in Thor 25?
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bobkatt013 posted:It was not revealed in Thor 25? Nope. I'm guessing it's going to be a slow burn reveal.
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