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The_White_Crane posted:I loved this scene because from a perfectly reasonable point of view, it looked like he was just some guy out for a stroll when suddenly two magic-wielding teenage thugs start hassling him and going "Oh, you can't escape us now!" *toys menacingly with baton* Well, he was clearly foreign with a mustache like that.
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So I've managed to finish the first arc and I must say, wow, this cartoon somehow manages to be bland and offensive at the same time. Like, you watch it trying not to fall asleep while a question lingers in your slowly melting brain: "What in the heck is wrong with people who produced this thing?" I mean, okay, you don't like egalitarianism and favor slow, methodical change from within the system to the violent revolution from without. There are many valid arguments to be made for this, yet, the author resort to comically blatant straw man for some reason. Also, there are ways to make overpowered MC work: for example, focusing on how terrible bad guys are, making the audience look forward to the inevitable comeuppance, etc. But most importantly, the rule "show, don't tell" is especially relevant to this kind of stories. For instance, if SAO focused on showing how awesome Kirito is via action scenes which the anime, for all its problems, excels at, instead of making supporting characters tell us about it all the friggin' time, it would be one of the best action anime in years. This anime, however, choses probably the least interesting way to go about it: MC has to hide his true power plus it apparently can't be measured via conventional means. And I can't overstate how bland and joyless it is. It reminds of the bad angsty shoujo, actually.
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There's one way for OP characters to work and that's Saitama in One Punch Man. Sadly this anime does exactly the opposite of it.
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rvm posted:But most importantly, the rule "show, don't tell" is especially relevant to this kind of stories. These types of shows are based off of light novels, which are the lowest common denominator of published works (and I think mostly digital, i.e people read them on their phones) so the quality of the anime is going to be commensurately lower as well. The show is geared to people who already love the LN and are likely to buy the BDs as long as its the same. Onto the episode breakdown Show starts with shady magenta haired school girl who was earlier seen spying on the noble protagonists furiously typing away at some hand held device while the students are displaying their revolutionary advanced science experiments in front of the entire student body. Kendo girl recognizes her and goes to chase her and shady girl runs off. Cut to OP. Kendo girl catches up with her, confronts her and says “I was a spy too, you can still turn back” and shday girl gets all smug and then attacks with a single flash bomb, then a dart that almost neutralizes the kendo girl and the other 3 non-Tatsuya/his sis main characters, finally someone tackles her and is then worried it was too much. I guess as long as the perpetrator is pure Japanese having to use physical force to take them down is going to far because clearly words should remind them of their pure Japanese heritage. Later the 4 are being warned off by senior class members that their interaction could’ve been seen as a 4 on 1 assault, despite the fact that shady girl shot darts at their head loaded with tear gas. Cut to senior members heading to interview shady girl and they find the nurse having to restrain shady girl on the ground in an arm bar. She spills the beans about how all she was trying to do was make someone’s science project fail as revenge for…something bad that happened to her sister(Ms Hirakawa). “That man” has apparently instructed on how to get revenge, and while she’s babbling she does the “pyscho eyes” thing crazy animes get when they are irredeemably crazy. 11 minutes in and surprisingly no Tatsuya. It’s almost like a different show where a school disciplinary squad tries to keep order at a magic school and is worried about how to stop potential spies and saboteurs. My bad, here’s Mr. perfect human surrounding by his groupies all telling him about it and how he’s in danger, but he says he’s not and blah blah blah. Cut to the evil bad guys, a Mr Lee Chen and a Mr Zhou, two distinctly non-Japanese names. Something about how easy it easy to turn young girls into collaborators, nothing else of substance is said. Red haired baton girl and kendo guy are supposed to be training together, he walks in on her in the bath (lol) while it keeps cutting back and forth between that and the rest of the main cast talking about whether or not those 2 are “together”. She’s supposed to be training him in some advanced technique or whatever, she says “Let’s asks Tatsuya” and kendo guy gets mad and says “No I must do this on my own” to which she says “Oh that’s so manly.” I can’t really fault it, because I don’t know if it’s a translation thing or what, but its absolutely garbage dialogue that you’d expect from a lovesick teen writing slash fanfiction. So, there’s a shady guy sneaking around spying on people, he thinks he’s discovered, does some magic ground destruction to escape, I assume he’ll come back as another collaborator. Tatsuya and big tit glasses are seated enjoying a meal while other students are around. She goes to pour him tea, touches his hands, after which they both furiously blush, she moves to get up and leave, stumbles, he grabs her to keep her from falling, grabs her tits accidentally, they both freak the gently caress out, she runs into the middle of the room stumbles, exposing her legs from the knees down to the entire room (like it’s supposed to be something scandalous) and then takes off. Other girls yell at Tatsuya to chase after her. Roll credits. This is the scene where she's "exposed" and desperately tries to pull her skirt back down to cover herself before she runs out of the room crying.  So basically the same level of exposure as wearing a pair of regular shorts, treated as some horrifically embarrassing display. The writer of this has a serious axe to grind with modern levels of female clothing exposure and the purity of the noble Japanese compared to everyone and everything else in the world. pentyne fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Aug 27, 2014 |
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Thanks for summing what's been going on because I just realized that one of the blogs that I follow has stopped covering Mahouka since the summer season started. And this was the blog where some of the staff has had somewhat questionable tastes and opinions on anime.
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Edward IV posted:Thanks for summing what's been going on because I just realized that one of the blogs that I follow has stopped covering Mahouka since the summer season started. And this was the blog where some of the staff has had somewhat questionable tastes and opinions on anime. I started watching the show, gave up pretty early on, then came back because I could not believe how bad it was. I'll finish out the series with my lazy rear end summaries, but no way in hell will I bother with the episodes I missed and I doubt they add anything to the story.
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pentyne posted:
Thanks I have that sick fascination of watching a train wreck but I can't stand to watch it. Reading these summaries is fun though !
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Actually it was the timid ancient magic spirit caller dude with big time girl, not Tatsuya. They're being paired together because she has the magic sight to see the spirits he calls.
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Eddain posted:Actually it was the timid ancient magic spirit caller dude with big time girl, not Tatsuya. They're being paired together because she has the magic sight to see the spirits he calls. A.k.a. Tatsuya's one true love. Tatsuya shows more interest in what's-his-name than he ever has in his sister or any member of his giant harem. Also, keep in mind that there is no real reason for all of this vigilante poo poo. They could easily go to the authorities, and Erika in particular has an enormous number of contacts in the police. These kids think they are above the law, and thanks to their wealth and connections this is literally true. Amusingly enough, no one is all that terribly concerned for the incompetent spy girl's well being even though the exact same people moved heaven and earth (and dismembered helpless prisoners) to help the kendo girl who was in the exact same situation. I guess the new spy isn't pretty enough?
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Goddamn this series  The author probably thinks girls showing ankles is ~scandalous~. And yet, to promote his book, he heads right for the most common selling point, fanservice. What a loving hypocrite.
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SSNeoman posted:Goddamn this series An early episode had a girl with her midriff exposed or wore a skirt/shorts(can't remember) and the main cast (i.e the author) treated it like some shocking public display of obscenity.
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pentyne posted:An early episode had a girl with her midriff exposed or wore a skirt/shorts(can't remember) and the main cast (i.e the author) treated it like some shocking public display of obscenity. It was the redhead girl. Her shirt got ripped because someone grabbed her and Tatsuya (THE ONE WHO CALLS TO THE BEYOND) dragged her behind the school where she covered herself up. Then he had to escort her because he saw her in a "compromising position" thisfuckingshow
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Aug 28, 2014 07:38
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Erika's top button was undone like a harlot
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SSNeoman posted:It was the redhead girl. Her shirt got ripped because someone grabbed her and Tatsuya (THE ONE WHO CALLS TO THE BEYOND) dragged her behind the school where she covered herself up. Then he had to escort her because he saw her in a "compromising position" You really have to wonder if this show actually resonates with a section of Japan's anime watching fanbase. One one hand, blatant nationalism and racism along with incestual lust from his sister, on the other, a distinct lack of any fanservice whatsoever.
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I'm sure there's a subset of shut-in nerds who would prefer their women clad head to foot in kimono, their feet bound so they can only take tiny steps.
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pentyne posted:You really have to wonder if this show actually resonates with a section of Japan's anime watching fanbase. One one hand, blatant nationalism and racism along with incestual lust from his sister, on the other, a distinct lack of any fanservice whatsoever. I guess it depends, since if you're talking about otaku then it's a decent-sized hit by those standards, but there have been other recent hits that have performed better. Now, mainstream? Haha nope.
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Not that I watch this show, but from those comments it doesn't sound like "a distinct lack of any fanservice whatsoever". Though it wouldn't be that hard to seem relatively fanservice-free by anime standards anyway. I suspect it could be that old trick that you'd see in, say, many old (17th-19th century) British plays and novels where pornography is served under a moral sauce because everyone goes on about how horrible it is that those things happen and everyone repents in the end. In this case, fanservice combined with everyone freaking out over the least bit of exposure.
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Srice posted:I guess it depends, since if you're talking about otaku then it's a decent-sized hit by those standards, but there have been other recent hits that have performed better. Yeah but all original animes are considered to be maladjusted nerd poo poo by the mainstream right? This isn't news Sakurazuka posted:I'm sure there's a subset of shut-in nerds who would prefer their women clad head to foot in kimono, their feet bound so they can only take tiny steps. The Japanese (and Koreans IIRC) never bound feet, that was exclusively a Chinese thing.  I feel like the author would be pretty obsessed with that fact considering his opinion of the Chinese in general.
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icantfindaname posted:Yeah but all original animes are considered to be maladjusted nerd poo poo by the mainstream right? This isn't news What does this even mean. Like if you mean stuff without source material than this show doesn't count since it's an adaption, and there are definitely anime that aren't adaptions that are fairly popular with a mainstream audience! Srice fucked around with this message at 14:10 on Aug 29, 2014 |
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iirc mainstream anime is p.much One Piece, Naruto, Pokemon and Doraemon and everything else is niche poo poo for weebs.
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Wasn't Shingeki no Kyojin also a mainstream success? It's rather new, I guess, but it did pretty well, especially taking into account that it's very much not as shounen as anything else you'd think when you hear/read "Mainstream Anime".
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Episode starts with Tatsuya chatting with that ninja trainer about the mystical item he stole/acquired that is the magic fusion device or something. He and his sister leave on his motorbike, are followed by a spy crow, and since Tatsuya doesn’t want to reveal his powers he just speeds up to evade. They arrive back at some corporate looking place, FTL that is being hacked from every angle and a bunch of techno babble about stopping it. The crow was the spy for evil terrorists and something about how important the relic is. Oh, and the young girl who was doing all the terrorist stuff is getting a free pass as a favor to her sister, I don’t know who she is but that seems to be the end of it. loving hell, a goddamn female robot maid dressed like she came out of one of those maid cafes. Apparently someone tried to pumping in sleeping gas into the robot club room Tatsuya is in; it was another student who was trying to steal data, so another secret terrorist at the school. This premier magic school does absolutely poo poo jobs at background checks and internal security. It looks like evil terrorist assassin is heading to kill the girl they caught in the previous episode, we get a magic fight between some guy and the assassin, which is terrible by the way, assassin gets beat, runs off. All in all just a real lovely scene as far as the quality of the animation goes. It even does some weird slow down blurry poo poo at one point that reeks of low budget. Assassin guy returns, gets told to go kill the male student who was just caught. He must be the only person they have capable of killing anyone. Back to the school, Tatsuya wants to do something, chairman won’t let him because he causes a shitload of trouble, other girl there agrees to accompany him so he can go, Back to school girl terrorist, some butler guy shows up and gives her a bunch of flowers, waxes poetically, she blushes, I have no idea what is going on. So Tatsuya is visiting the male school terrorist with other girl and watches behind the 2 way mirror as girl uses some scent based mind control to make him talk. Terrorist assassin breaks into the detention facility and apparently Tatsuya and the 2 school girls are literally the only people in the building who make any attempt to stop him. Tatsuya stands there, does nothing while girls do some magic light show stuff that is completely ineffective until Tatsuya decides to effortlessly one-shot the assassin. The key to everything seems to be the Relic Tatsuya is holding on to. Tatsuya gets congratulated by the Gov. woman he is in contact with, sits down on the coach to sleep, Miyuki walks in, sees him asleep, starts to go in to kiss him, he wakes up just in time, she stumbles and he catches her. She panics and runs to her room saying how she almost “ki-….ki-….” can’t even say the word kiss. He goes to tell her everything will be alright, it cuts to nighttime, she’s on her bed in her underwear blushing and rolling around giggling.
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His limiter is Miyuki, isn't it? All he has to do is just ask her and she'll remove his limiter. He doesn't even need to ask nicely. Just to make sure I didn't miss anything, He Who Treads The Razor's Edge has not made anymore Randian "gently caress the poor/equality/etc" speeches, right? Cause that was by far the most entertaining part of Mahouka. Which REALLY says something about how loving boring Mahouka is.
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One of the Best Light Novels Ever I have Read many Light Novels but this is the cream of the Crop right here Story: This is a great story for anyone who Enjoys shonen/Tech Savy/Strategic Tropes. But in many ways, this story even has the potential to be a lot more popular than it already is. It is rare for any story to get overpowered done right but Mahouka does it perfectly. The novel takes a good look at the relationship between the weak and powerful, and it does well to create a world with a complete history. The explanations can get a little bit lengthy, but the complexity behind the magic theory adds a depth of reality to it all. I don't recall another supernatural action setting with such detailed, consistent, plausible explanations for supernatural combat techniques. If you read this for a volume or two, you should be impressed, as well as Intrigued to learn about the various spells and technologies/abilities. Art : Like the saying goes "A picture speaks of thousand things" the LN's are subjected to 2-3 illustrations of important plot points throughout Volumes, M Kn R does a fantastic job in this department, the Artist has beautifully crafted the imagination of the author and blessed it with a touch of Life, It has a Mix of Shonen(ish)+a bit of Moe added in there...all in all Perfect Character Design that matches well with the tone of the story Characters: One of The strong point for me in this Novel are it's Varied and Vast Cast of Characters, The MC (Tatsuya) isn't a Social Outcast or Weak as the Title would suggest...he follows his own Established Code mixed in with Mary Stu syndrome and yet ends up flashing the "Anti-Hero" persona, Miyuki his younger Sister suffers from Bro-Complex without any Sexual innuendos but in a more Cutesy fashion...all the Supporting Characters play relevant roles in driving the plot forward and more and more of their Background are revealed as the series progresses. Overall: 10/10 With each installment my Enjoyment factors keep on rising, this is one of those rare cases that gets better and better with each passing chapters...i have re-read each arcs TWICE and i experience the same outburst of Emotions the 2nd time over...I Recommend this series to all who likes a bit of "Action+(H)Romance+Mystery+ Futuristic World-Building" mixed in to culminate a Masterpiece of it's Genre... http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/reviews.php?target_group=LightNovel&target_title=MahoukaKoukouNoRettousei
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Darth Walrus posted:Miyuki his younger Sister suffers from Bro-Complex without any Sexual innuendos but in a more Cutesy fashion... Hahaha, what? That's some straight up denial.
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Darth Walrus posted:One of the Best Light Novels Ever "Strategic tropes" in this context just makes me think of that one Left Behind videogame. Also, (H)Romance? The denial goes only so far, it seems.
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Darth Walrus posted:Art : Like the saying goes "A picture speaks of thousand things" the LN's are subjected to 2-3 illustrations of important plot points throughout Volumes, M Kn R does a fantastic job in this department, the Artist has beautifully crafted the imagination of the author and blessed it with a touch of Life, It has a Mix of Shonen(ish)+a bit of Moe added in there...all in all Perfect Character Design that matches well with the tone of the story  Yes, I see.
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SSNeoman posted:
Pictured: Not sexual at all.
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WickedHate posted:Hahaha, what? That's some straight up denial. there isn't a big enough 
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Sakurazuka posted:there isn't a big enough I never denied the incest.  Part of what got me angry with the show was the confirmation that the characters remain flat and static, and thus how that subplot will never advance so the fanservice can continue forever.
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Sakurazuka posted:there isn't a big enough Alright, come on that joke's been played out. WickedHate posted:Pictured: Not sexual at all. I'm pretty sure that until there's actual explicit sex involved, every interaction between these two will be "innocent puppy love". Related question: Was the scene where Miyuki took off her clothes so His Illustrious Shadow could fiddle with her magic device in the books?
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SSNeoman posted:Alright, come on that joke's been played out. Yes. Also, no one else has ever gotten naked for magic device adjustment or even mentioned it as a possibility.
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So, the smooth talking butler who was giving traitor girl flowers is actually working with the terrorists? The episode starts with the terrorist leader and smooth butler talking over tea while planning on how to break free the main terrorist bad guy who got caught. Leader promises to avoid damage to Chinatown if possible, says the targets are the magic school and the thesis competition. Back to the school, it’s a few minutes of boring chit chat with the core group around Tatsuya while some upbeat elevator music plays in the background. It cuts to traitor girl in the hospital being talked down to by some other schoolgirl who just goes on and on about how great Tatsuya is and how that girl could never get his attention. Apparently mean school girl is there to tell her to come to the magic fair. The idea is to win back traitor girls loyalty to take advantage of her magic talents. There’s a weird scene where it’s a shot of some other school’s magicians on a moving train coming for the magic competition I guess. There’s no dialogue whatsoever and the shot takes about 7 seconds before cutting to magic cop at dinner with possibly spy woman with huge jugs. She casually mentions that she’s going to the magic thesis fair, and tells him he should come, along with his subordinates and make sure they all have guns and live ammo. There’s a girl standing in a main hall area, she sees a woman going into a room, uses her smartphone to get her identity, says “I knew it”. Not sure what’s going on. Said woman then meets with Tasyua and his sister and they chat, there are ominous overtones about what will happen at magic competition. I’m going break here and just say holy poo poo is this episode boring. 12:44 minutes in and its nothing but cutting back and forth between scenes of people talking, and half the time the dialogue is so vague I can’t tell if a person is a terrorist or an ally of Tatsuya. Spied on woman who met with Tatsuya then sits down with the woman who was spying on her, and there is another drawn out vague conversation where spied woman warns off the snooper. Then spied woman wanders to a computer, access it and exclaims “LuGhonzu escaped!” You know, that would’ve been pretty interesting to see, the main bad guy being busted loose from an armored police convoy. Too bad the show thinks we want to see people talk in circles and learn about important plot points from characters telling us about it. Back to 3 of the school guys who do school security, they discuss potential problems, and one of them says “well, there are a lot of foreigners around.” So the main guy decides that everyone will wear bullet proof vests just in case. Magic shows start, mean girl from earlier is present a gravity/magic fusion reactor, I think, but ends with “we still can’t make a stable magic fusion reactor.” Hmm, what a coincidence, that’s what Tatsuya’s been working on for a few weeks. Cut to a view scenes of menacing people getting into position. Back to more magic babble, something about coulomb forces, I’m not even trying to parse what is being explained because it’s just a series of “we do this, then add magic, then do this” Tatsuya is approached by a shady looking guy from another school who gives him a sort of back handed compliment, then the terrorists attack. Cut to ED.
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Monocled Falcon posted:So what's this limiter do, exactly? I thought Tatsuya only needed that big gun-wand thing to nuke stuff. I forgot who mentioned it but I think it was when Tstsuya's captain was talking to the head magic competition dude, and was explaining how it would be cruel to have Tatsuya control all his power by himself, so Miyuki acts as his limiter. He needs her to unlock his full power. That's why during the magic competition game Miyuki was concerned that Tatsuya would have a difficult time since he couldn't use his full potential.
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Serious Frolicking posted:So has anyone bothered explaining why terrorist girl A was never charged and terrorist girl B got pardoned for the sake of her sister who appeared in exactly one scene, but terrorist boy got thrown in jail and then mind controlled? Woman are fragile creatures too easily manipulated by others. Men are not.
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Serious Frolicking posted:Tatsuya can't restore other people with the limiter on, and I think maybe he can't nuke filthy gaijins either? This is the answer. The limiter also limits Miyuki, she can't do whatever I said her strongest magic is either while it's on, because a good deal of her magic is being used to limit Tatsuya (I think the limiter is supposed to also be why her magic activates whenever she is jealous of other women looking/being around onii-sama) E: I never did post what her strongest magic is, I think it basically stops the brain but leaves the body alive. Namtab fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Sep 7, 2014 |
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