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Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005


"Upload time"? TV execs wonder why piracy of tv shows is so rampant (hint: it has something to do with pirated streaming sites having 720p streams up within ~3 minutes of airing finishing). Want to compete with illegal service providers? Try providing a better service than them and you know, not wait a whole day (or even a minute) for no reason at all to upload episodes of shows. There's no reason at all that services like HBOGo shouldn't have episodes available as soon a they begin airing. If you prefer people to watch on TV because of increased ad revenue, just have increased ads if someone is watching at the same time it's airing on TV. Jesus Christ, it's not hard.

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Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

Technogeek posted:

I can see it being a combination of CDN screwiness combined with the relatively short time between "filming concludes" and "episode airs". If nothing else, there's a lot less time between the two than there is with Game of Thrones.

When streaming piracy sites who have no access to anything until it's finished airing on TV (they literally tape the show, encode it into a high quality low size file, and then upload the file to hundreds of servers) can get something up in minutes of it finishing airing, there's really no technical excuse as to why the networks who actually broadcast these shows shouldn't be able to do the same.

Point being, saying the reason is "upload time" is undoubtedly a lie. The intended reason is so more people will watch the show live, resulting in increased ad revenue (because more ads are shown and are "unskippable" during live broadcast) and neilson rating bragging rights. Of course, this is incredibly misguided as it results in tons of people who want to watch the show as soon as they can getting it where they can (since it's not available through official channels, people will look elsewhere), resulting in absolutely no ad revenue. There's also no reason they couldn't provide exactly the same service online as you get on tv (episode comes online at exactly the time it starts airing, has unskippable adbreaks of the same length and skipping forward in the episode isn't possible).

Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

Technogeek posted:

...on HBO.

Ah, HBO doesn't have ads? Then it's even more ridiculous.

Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

bows1 posted:

They finish editing the show right before it airs, and the amount of encoding for all the different platforms that HBO GO runs on takes forever, and a 1080p HD version of a 30 minute show is a HUGE File. Not considering all the other file types.

It does take a long time to upload those files, hours for each


Do you know the difference between youtube compression and Pure HD, as well as 5 min videos vs 30? Also, 1 version for youtube Vs at least 10 for HBO Go.

You guys are being ridiculous about this. Its obviously not a conscious choice.

Again, piracy stream sites manage to tape the shows in HD and upload them ready for viewing in their entirety within ~3 minutes of the show finishing. There is absolutely no way that a professional organisation who actually has access to the show before it even begins airing couldn't do the same. It obviously is a conscious choice.

Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

You're all arguing that an enormous professional organisation somehow can't do something that pirates have been doing for years. Like, this is not an impossible thing. It's clearly doable. As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of the argument. If a dude in his mom's basement is able to get HD streams up minutes after a show finishes airing, then so too should the organisation that airs the show be able to do likewise (with minimal effort given that they have more resources than the aforementioned basement dweller). Not doing so is a choice, they want more people to watch the TV stream for whatever reason.

Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

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network-level encoding is more involved than torrent encoding

Not particularly. You encode the video and then distribute it. If distributing the video via HBOGo is somehow more difficult than uploading streams to various Youtube alternatives (I haven't even been focusing on torrenting btw, but on video streaming sites), then HBOGo's design must be absolutely horrendous. Don't buy it for a second.

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the work is done by specific people whose labor costs money

Money that is more than made up for by more people subscribing to the service since they would then know they could get the show via HBOGo at the same speed as they would from a pirated streaming site.

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those people tend to want to work during normal business hours

Because no-one in TV companies ever works outside of normal business hours. You don't need a bachelors in electrical engineering to know how to encode the episode and upload it (coincidentally, I do actually have such a degree and so actually do have a good understanding of network transmission and encoding algorithms; what are your credentials for apparently knowing so much?), it's very easy to automate. An intern could do it easily.

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error-check their streams

You upload, perform the error check and if an error is found, replace the file with a fixed version. Also not at all complicated and no reason to wait a day (or even the time to watch the episode to error check it).

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they have more than one stream

Pirates mirror their videos to literally thousands of different servers and streaming services in minutes. Again not a particularly good excuse.

Resorting to personal attacks also isn't a particularly good way to make your argument.

Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

Yeah, this was definitely the weakest episode thus far. Maybe they burned off the crap material since viewership would be way down because of the oscars? There are additional researchers (and writers) this season, and it's unlikely they are all as good as the one person they had last season. But yeah, "oh look, it's pink!" and "we shouldn't listen to this guys economic policy because of his fashion sense!" were both pretty lovely. He also dropped the ball on one of the most horrifying aspects of elected judges; that many states don't even require them to have relevant credentials (e.g. people with no legal background whatsoever can just waltz in and become judges).

Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

pokeyman posted:

You mean when they showed the campaign ad that had nothing to do with being a judge for the candidate who had no relevant experience whatsoever, then reported that the candidate won?

A campaign ad that has nothing to do with being a judge doesn't necessarily imply that the person in the ad has no relevant legal experience, just that they think talking about dive rescue is "cool" and will help them get elected.

Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

mastajake posted:

For instance, last year's biology test had 54 questions. In order to pass, a student would need to answer 20 questions correctly. Statistically, if a student blindly guessed for every answer they should get ~13.5 correct (there are only 4 answer choices), so lets say 13. That means they have to know the answers to 7 questions, or 13% of the content (not even counting making educated guesses).

Guessing you're not a math teacher.

Standardized testing as implemented in the US (in terms of teaching to the test, funding and jobs dependent on results etc) is a travesty, though some of the points in the segment were dumb. That some model is used with agriculture doesn't inherently make it unsuitable for use with people. It's obviously an unsuitable model because it makes predictions greater than the maximum, and they are taken at face value. Being all "this is used with cows!" and "look at all this incomprehensible math, we can't trust it because it's math!" (that is actually super basic) was a tad anti-intellectual. I get the whole comedy over accuracy thing, but this was a bit on education after all.

Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

mastajake posted:

Would you mind pointing out the error(s)?

If you know 7 questions, you're only guessing on the 47 remaining questions. So the expected number of questions you'll get right from guessing is 47/4 = 11.75. For an expected score of 18.75. You were adding the known questions plus the number of questions you'd get right by guessing the entire set. You need to know 9 questions and guess the rest to have an expected performance of a passing grade.

Your overall point is definitely true though; standards are very low, and those low standards are too often not met.

Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

Sepp Blatter is considering unresigning. Does this mean John will throw up the Bud Light Lime?

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Arcanen
Dec 19, 2005

If John Oliver does ever need to respond to the MRA gamer gate assholes:

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Male gamers who bully female players are literal losers, study finds

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-...y-finds/6636320

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