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TubeStank posted:So what does the league do in this situation? Ideally he'd not be the owner of the team anymore, but they couldn't just buy the team away from him or force him to resign, could they? This is one hell of an awful situation and is also the epitome of gently caress That Guy, but I have no idea what the league can an cannot do here. They can buy all the season tickets and give them to black kids.
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I spent about 10 minutes trying to figure out how Sterling could be dating a person who is black/hispanic, field a team full of black players, encourage his girlfriend to have sex with Magic Johnson, etc., but then I realized he is a crazy old piece of poo poo racist and I just wasted 10 minutes trying to solve an unsolvable person.
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OctoberBlues posted:I spent about 10 minutes trying to figure out how Sterling could be dating a person who is black/hispanic, field a team full of black players, encourage his girlfriend to have sex with Magic Johnson, etc., but then I realized he is a crazy old piece of poo poo racist and I just wasted 10 minutes trying to solve an unsolvable person. Unrelated but that av makes me so happy.
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MassaShowtime posted:They can buy all the season tickets and give them to black kids. That is what sterling does and why he is getting the NAACP award. He does give a ton to the poor community, but it's pretty classic dissonance. He doesn't think he's racist because he gives so much away to the African American community, so therefore this stuff he says is just regular things and totally not racist.
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MourningView posted:Unrelated but that av makes me so happy. When it came time to get an av, there was really only one option.
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TubeStank posted:So what does the league do in this situation? Ideally he'd not be the owner of the team anymore, but they couldn't just buy the team away from him or force him to resign, could they? This is one hell of an awful situation and is also the epitome of gently caress That Guy, but I have no idea what the league can an cannot do here. They're stuck, sad as it sounds. They can't force him to sell, otherwise Stern would have done it decades ago. Normally they would remove him from any committees that Sterling was on to rid his influence on the league, but Sterling's been persona non grata around those meetings for years. You can't have the league get together and make him an offer he can't refuse, because he's refused several of those already. The problem is that Sterling's been a known racist shithead for so long that anything you can do to him has already been done. The best-case scenario is what happened with Marge Schott: Sterling is prohibited by the league from engaging in the day-to-day activities of his team and it gets passed onto his son-in-law. Sterling would remain the owner and continue to wildly profit, but he would have no role other than writing/cashing checks. The issue is that Schott had to agree to such a suspension and there's no indication that Sterling would agree to such a thing, and to force him could result in Sterling taking legal action and the whole issue gets blown the gently caress up.
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Still breathlessly awaiting the Skip Bayless take.
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MassaShowtime posted:lmao the dude lost a court case about kicking out minorities from his slum housing 
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The Asian Oprah posted:Still breathlessly awaiting the Skip Bayless take. Bayless is more the harmlessly stupid type, isn't he? I bet Colin Cowherd drops a true gem here.
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Here is Michael McCann's Actual Legal Analysis regarding what the NBA can do. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba/news/20140426/donald-sterling-la-clippers-adam-silver-nba/ Basically they're stuck unless they want to create a pretty bad precedent. The other owners will always look out for number one.
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It's a good summary, but I disagree with this:quote:Also, federal and state civil rights laws prohibit privately owned businesses that offer entertainment from discriminating on the basis of race. It is pretty apparent he is running this team like a plantation and the players as slaves.
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C. Everett Koop posted:The best-case scenario is what happened with Marge Schott: Sterling is prohibited by the league from engaging in the day-to-day activities of his team and it gets passed onto his son-in-law. Sterling would remain the owner and continue to wildly profit, but he would have no role other than writing/cashing checks. The issue is that Schott had to agree to such a suspension and there's no indication that Sterling would agree to such a thing, and to force him could result in Sterling taking legal action and the whole issue gets blown the gently caress up. Schott was also under pressure from the rest of the ownership group, who were ultimately going to force her out when she stepped down to save face.
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Philthy posted:It's a good summary, but I disagree with this: How so? The players have all been paid market wages and I see no preponderance of evidence to suggest race was a factor in any hiring decisions. They made a huge attempt to recruit an African American head coach and pay him very well. I think most of the business has not been discriminatory, but mostly because I don't think Sterling has had a lot to do with the business.
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Philthy posted:It is pretty apparent he is running this team like a plantation and the players as slaves. Yes this is just like slavery.
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Philthy posted:It's a good summary, but I disagree with this: I don't think you know what slave means.
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Philthy posted:It's a good summary, but I disagree with this: What? The guy is a racist retard, but come on now. Slaves don't get paid millions of dollars or have the freedom to quit.
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Philthy posted:It's a good summary, but I disagree with this: Hey I think capitalism is slavery as much as the next fellow but I think others might find your analogy a little lacking here
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Apr 27, 2014 19:41
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It's me. I'm the most outraged. Come at me, thread.
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Also that plantation comment was made as part of a lawsuit (go figure) that Elgin Baylor was filing for discrimination so it was in his interest to make the Clippers sound horrid Not saying they aren't, but Mr. Baylor was probably being hyperbolic and not accidentally touching on the truth of sports drafts
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Oh you think he's just a racist shithead??? Well I think he is THE WORST PERSON WHO HAS EVER LIVED! And YOU are racist for not thinking that too! Take that! I care the most about racism. I am the most enlightened person on all the internet.
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Haven't we already known Sterling was a racist shithead for years now
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ZenVulgarity posted:Haven't we already known Sterling was a racist shithead for years now
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MourningView posted:Oh you think he's just a racist shithead??? Well I think he is THE WORST PERSON WHO HAS EVER LIVED! And YOU are racist for not thinking that too! Take that! I care the most about racism. I am the most enlightened person on all the internet. Pfft. I think HE'S THE WORST PERSON WHO WILL EVER EXIST IN THIS UNIVERSE OR OTHERS
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Apr 27, 2014 20:08
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Clippers warmups don't have Clipper logos on them. Great show of solidarity there guys. 
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At the least the Bulls showed solidarity by not showing up to their game.
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Whirlwind Jones posted:Clippers warmups don't have Clipper logos on them.  Powerful stuff really
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I hope you're being sarcastic. If you want to sent a message then don't loving play. If you're too much of a wuss to do that then little meaningless poo poo like this just looks like a circle jerk gesture.
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We are so completely not in their shoes that it doesn't feel right lecturing them about what they "should do." I'm sure they have a lot of conflicting emotions right now.
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Whirlwind Jones posted:I hope you're being sarcastic. People are completely understating what a difficult and bizarre situation the team is in. It's very easy to grandstand anonymously about how one would act.
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my favorite line of criticism are the guys getting mad at Doc Rivers, the Clippers players, and each and every black employee/player the Clippers have ever had. Like Donald Sterling's virulent racism is more acceptable than the thought of black people working for him
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I'm stunned that Jordan actually took a stand on anything other than whether or not Dan Marjerly can go gently caress himself
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soggybagel posted:People are completely understating what a difficult and bizarre situation the team is in. It's very easy to grandstand anonymously about how one would act. It's the same situation they were in last week. Except people on Twitter want them to boycott now.
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I wonder if somehow ironically pointing out how terribly the Israelis have treated Ethiopian Jews has harmed or hurt Sterling among the other owners? Let us not forget that the owner of the Sixers literally supports Jewish settlers in Palestinian lands by funding a kung fu basketball team.
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Niwrad posted:It's the same situation they were in last week. Except people on Twitter want them to boycott now. I too don't think anyone should mind if the man who pays their bills goes on a 15 minute racist rant for the ages. Donald could've gotten away with it too if not for these meddling tweets!
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As an anonymous person, I think it would have been great if they could have gotten Golden State to agree to not play the game, unless Sterling agreed to step away from the team. Or maybe they could have played the game without the Clippers logo or name on anything. Maybe wear some jerseys that say The Los Angeles African Americans.
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soggybagel posted:People are completely understating what a difficult and bizarre situation the team is in. It's very easy to grandstand anonymously about how one would act. Yeah, I doubt the NBPA would back up a full blown team boycott in the middle of the playoffs, regardless of the fact that Chris Paul is its current president.
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