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So a while back I ran an obscure little game called Mercenary Air Squadron pretty much entirely because I'm a huge sperg who likes planes and Ace Combat. It was popular albeit short-lived (the previous two facts are related), but I also like tanks, and there's nothing that really does tanks. So a few nights ago I was bullshitting in IRC with fellow sperg Davin Valkri* about how I had a few ideas for running a tanks game. People showed signs of encouragement, and basically I ended up putting a ton of down in Google Docs. The result is Through Mud And Blood (working title), a game where you are legionnaires of fortune, stomping things into poo poo with your tank and a few good men. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oxqA5-xyGdGRiERgpufKMfdvXepVhsBx0XXBFcSS0Og As far as I can tell so far I've got all the important poo poo down. It's first draft as gently caress, but the guts are there; however, I need gerbils to break poo poo and fine-tune values and such, since in a vacuum I can't really get a handle for that sort of thing. Thus, I'm going to do a "recruit", where I'll run a game if I can get enough people. Since this game is, y'know, hella rough, don't expect a first class experience. I will endeavor to make it as entertaining as possible though, and if Problems come up speak out pronto so I can fix it. Also feel free to ask why things are; if I can't justify it it's probably not a good decision. *did literally nothing
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# ? Apr 28, 2014 02:49 |
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 07:02 |
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Oh, I did "literally nothing", huh?! Well, fine then! I'm gonna help you playtest this dang game! And then you're going to package it up and submit it for publication and it's going to be AWESOME in the way only heavy metal can!
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# ? Apr 28, 2014 03:37 |
I'm interested.
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# ? Apr 28, 2014 04:01 |
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So if I'm reading the rules right, the players are tank mercenaries fighting in WW2? I am intrigued...
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# ? Apr 28, 2014 06:07 |
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Well as one of the people who slightly egged you on to make this, it will be my pleasure to help
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# ? Apr 28, 2014 08:08 |
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Let's tank.
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 00:37 |
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Alright, 5 people should be good for a start. What time and theatre do you want to try first? I'm thinking 1941 Africa, but it's up to you!
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 01:40 |
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Forums Terrorist posted:Alright, 5 people should be good for a start. What time and theatre do you want to try first? I'm thinking 1941 Africa, but it's up to you! Crusaders in the desert, then? Works for me! (Unless we're taking *shudders* ITALIAN units)
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 01:52 |
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It's your choice. I won't stop you if you take the finest in Italian engineering.
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 01:56 |
Drats, 1941 Africa means I can't use the M3 Lee.
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 02:06 |
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Whatever works.
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 02:09 |
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1941 Africa is exactly what I was going to suggest. I vote that we fight for the british.
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 02:35 |
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I don't care who we play as, I just want to tank.
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 03:28 |
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Let's play as the Germans and then defect to the Allies.
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 03:31 |
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RandomPauI posted:Drats, 1941 Africa means I can't use the M3 Lee. Depending on who you shack up with, you can; it's a 1941 vehicle. Anyway it seems like time and theatre is settled so go ahead and start making characters. If anything at all seems weird or confusing post about it pronto so I can explain/fix it.
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# ? Apr 29, 2014 20:03 |
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How does the Char B1 work? It has two guns, but one one man turret. Also, how do we allocate skill points? It's not very clear on that.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 00:28 |
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Mycroft Holmes posted:How does the Char B1 work? It has two guns, but one one man turret. Also, how do we allocate skill points? It's not very clear on that. Each skill starts at +0, and you start with seven points. You can add skill points to each skill, but the cap is +4 (so that a 2 always fails). So for example if I were making a character I could allocate points as such: Gunnery: +2 Driving: +1 Charisma: +1 Maintenance: +0 First Aid: +1 Bottle: +2 Crew members work exactly the same; you pay the amount listed for the listed amount of skill points, and allocate them however. The exceptions are Crack crew members, who get a free point in Gunnery, Driving or Maintenance (your choice), and Conscript crew members, who get no skill points and take a -1 penalty to all rolls until they get their first skill point after five battles. The Char B1: One Man Turret applies to the gun in the turret (the 47mm). The 75mm howitzer is hull mounted and has a separate gunner, so it doesn't take the penalty. I've edited these clarifications in. Forums Terrorist fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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William Laval William is a proud Pied-Noir who fought for La Belle France in the Great War. Despite sharing a name with Hitler's Vichy puppet, he is virulently anti-Nazi. He commands the Char B1 République. Char B1 bis République Crew: 4 Rookies Gunnery: +4 Driving: +1 Charisma: +2 Maintenance: +1 First Aid: +1 Bottle: +2
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 01:04 |
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Resurrecting new characters in unrecognizable forms GO! Tadeusz Maszynistski + Matilda II (30*.8 home country discount! = 23 GBP) + 3 Crack crew members, Janusz Wolek, Roman Syrenki, and Lech Kowal(18 GBP) , , and + 5 GBP for ammo Tadeusz used to be a cavalryman, and then he got his horse shot out from under him during Case White. So he got transferred to a TKS with a 20mm rifle. He had that shot out as well. When the Germans overran Poland, he fled, joined the 10th Armoured Cavalry Brigade, and got himself a Cruiser Mk. VI...which he also had shot out from under him! Now EXTREMELY annoyed at having gone 0-3 in the cavalry fight (oh, and losing his homeland, as well), he's linked up with fellow refugees Janusz, Roman and Lech, and gotten his hands on the heaviest-armored tank he could find. Let's see the Germans shoot THIS out from under him! (Maybe it was a bad idea to name the tank and its crew "St. Sebastian"...) Commander statline: Gunnery: +1 Driving: +0 Charisma: +2 Maintenance: +0 First Aid: +1 Bottle: +3 Trait: Shot like St. Sebastian Crew statlines (Janusz the gunner): Gunnery: +3 Driving: +0 Charisma: +0 Maintenance: +0 First Aid: +0 Bottle: +1 Trait: Case White Veteran Crew statlines (Lech the loader): Gunnery: +0 Driving: +0 Charisma: +0 Maintenance: +2 First Aid: +2 Bottle: +0 Trait: Rodzina means Family Crew statlines (Roman the driver): Gunnery: +0 Driving: +3 Charisma: +0 Maintenance: +1 First Aid: +0 Bottle: +0 Trait: Theoretical Mechanist Tank statline: Name: Matilda 2 Front Armor: 8 Side Armor: 8 Speed: 3 Gun: QF 2 pdr (Range 11, Calibration 6) Ammo: 93?/93 Visibility: +1 Notes: Stabiliser (+1) Remaining budget: 50 - 23 - 18 - 5 = 4 GBP Davin Valkri fucked around with this message at 15:48 on May 2, 2014 |
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Jay John Jackson Daredevil Tank Commander Trait: Run n' Gun Gunnery: +0 Driving: +0 Charisma: +4 Maintenance: +1 First Aid: +1 Bottle: +1 David Daryl Donaldson Crack Driver (£6) Gunnery: +0 Driving: +4 Charisma: +0 Maintenance: +0 First Aid: +0 Bottle: +0 Michael Mitchell Madison Crack Gunner (£6) Gunnery: +4 Driving: +0 Charisma: +0 Maintenance: +0 First Aid: +0 Bottle: +0 The Tremendous Terrifying Tetrarch Tank Model: Tetrarch (£10 * .8 = £8) Front Armor: 2 Side Armor: 1 Speed: 8 Crew: 6 Visibility: +1 Special: Two Man Turret, Stabilizer (+1) Gun: QF 2 pdr Ammo: 25 Standard (£5), 25 Specialty (£25) Range: 11 Penetration: 6 Caliber: No HE Total Costs: Crack Crew x2 = 12 Tank = 8 Stock Ammo = 5 Special Ammo x25 = 25 Takanago fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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British Crew in a Stuart I (M3 Stuart) Devon Pryke, Commander and Loader. Old Sweat Gunnery +0 Driving +0 Charisma +3 Maintenance +0 First Aid +0 Bottle +4 Reg Osbourne, Gunner Crack gunner, £6 Gunnery +4 Driving +0 Charisma +0 Maintenance +0 First Aid +0 Bottle +0 Richard Smee, Driver Crack Driver, £6 Gunnery +0 Driving +4 Charisma +0 Maintenance +0 First Aid +0 Bottle +0 Simon Morby, Radio Operator Crack Maintainer, £6 Gunnery +0 Driving +4 Charisma +0 Maintenance +3 First Aid +1 Bottle +0 Stuart I Front Armor: 6 Side Armor: 3 Speed: 6 Gun: 37mm M3 Ammo: 103 Crew: 4 Cost: $15 Visibility: +1 Notes: Two Man Turret 37mm M3: Range 12, Pen. 6, Caliber 1, RoF Fast, Ammo $5 12 rounds M51 (APCBC-T, +3 Pen), 44 M74 (AP), 47 M63 (HE). Budget: Crew: £18 Tank: $15 Ammo: $5 + $12 Beardless fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Images to follow The Soviet Union sent a T-34 M1941 to Africa for field testing. They sent Janus Chekov, an ace tanker and devout son of the Soviet Union, to serve as its commander. Unfortunately the rest of the crews roster was filled out with a random assortment of soldiers he barely knows. TANK Name: T-34 M1941 Front Armor: 7 Side Armor: 6 Speed: 7 Gun: 76.2mm F-34 Ammo 77 Crew 4 Cost 20 Visibility -1 Notes Two Man Turret Year 1941 GUN Name: 76.2mm F-34 Range: 10 Penetration: 9 Caliber: 3 Regular Ammunition cost: $5 Special Ammo: 2 x $1 Rate Of Fire: Medium CREW Janus Chekov Commander/Gunner Crack: £6 each +2 to Gunner +3 to Charisma +3 to Bottle Sharp eyesight Vladimer Petrov Radio Recruit $2 +1 to Maintenance Speaks some German Joseph Kalashnikov Driver Competent $4 +2 to Driving Knows how to keep from getting the tank stuck Boris Zhivago Loader Recruit $2 +1 to First Aid Wanted to be a doctor BUDGET 50 Start -20 Tank -07 Gun -14 Crew =09 Remaining
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 10:18 |
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I know you don't need to spend money on your commander, so that's 6 pounds back to you that you can spend someplace else. I'm not sure whether the whole crew starts with traits or just the commander (i.e. the PC), though.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 15:20 |
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I hate to rain on people's parades, but we're only supposed to be taking tanks from 1940 or earlier. "¬Must be from at latest previous year (i.e. a campaign starting in 1940 would allow characters to start with a tank available in 1939 or earlier)"
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 17:03 |
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Beardless posted:I hate to rain on people's parades, but we're only supposed to be taking tanks from 1940 or earlier. I think FT mentioned on IRC that there was some caveat attached to that.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 17:06 |
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Davin Valkri posted:I think FT mentioned on IRC that there was some caveat attached to that. Oh okay. Could I also recommend having an IRC room specifically for this game?
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 17:26 |
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Davin Valkri posted:I think FT mentioned on IRC that there was some caveat attached to that. No, he's right. To start you pick a host country or allied tank that's from a previous year, or an enemy tank that's two years old. It only affects Takanago and RandomPauI at least, and in the latter's case I need to stat up two more T-34s anyway (the L-11 armed M1940 and the T-34/57).
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 17:58 |
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Man, you said current year was fine. Well that's alright. I just need to switch to a slightly different silly strategy after I get home.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:27 |
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Yeah, you did say in this thread that "year of campaign" was good.RandomPauI posted:Drats, 1941 Africa means I can't use the M3 Lee. Forums Terrorist posted:Depending on who you shack up with, you can; it's a 1941 vehicle. Unless it's supposed to go "home nation: year of campaign and earlier, + 20% discount; allied nation: year of campaign -1; enemy nation: year of campaign -2"?
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:30 |
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Fair enough. I've nixed the penalty; if it causes issues it might come back but the main tool of balance should be cost, so I'll stick to that. Also this is the more fun option.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:37 |
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Forums Terrorist posted:Fair enough. I've nixed the penalty; if it causes issues it might come back but the main tool of balance should be cost, so I'll stick to that. Also this is the more fun option. Wait, what penalty? Or do you mean the year-1 restriction?
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:43 |
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Davin Valkri posted:Wait, what penalty? Or do you mean the year-1 restriction? Yeah, by penalty I mean the "you can't have a vehicle from the same year as the campaign to start" thing. Since as we're seeing here it's probably just going to confuse people.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:52 |
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Alright, I got myself a group of Sikh who decided to hijack a Czech/German tank in the Battle of France and go "you know what the Gibraltar is nice this time of year, let's go there." Girisha Ganesh Singh Commander Stats: Gunnery +3 Charisma +2 Bottle +2 Host Country: Britain (India) Trait: GET CLOSER I WANT TO HIT IT WITH MY SWORD! (Alt Title: Sikh Tricks*) *Basically everyone is treated as having Sikh Tricks. Crew (Crack Crew x3) Jaya Kaur Driving +4 Madhukar Singh Maintenance +2 Gunnery +1 First Aid +1 Nirav Shyam Singh First Aid +3 Maintenance +1 Tank Name: Panzer 38(t) Ausf. E Nationality: "German" (Czech) (Ours now) Front Armor: 5 Side Armor: 3 Speed: 4 Gun: 3.7cm KwK 38(t) L/47.8 Ammo: 72 Crew: 4 Cost: RM15 Visibility: +1 Notes: Two Man Turret Year: 1939 Total Costs: 50 - 15 + 18 + (insert extra ammo here) = 17 AlanWhats fucked around with this message at 08:03 on May 1, 2014 |
# ? May 1, 2014 07:58 |
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Game thread: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3631252
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# ? May 4, 2014 04:04 |
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I think you should build a future/sci-fi setting based on BattleTanx once you're done with boring old WWII.
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# ? May 6, 2014 05:13 |
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Or you can go the Wargame route and keep moving forwards in time. Have the PCs in Chieftains, M60s, Leo 1s, T-64s, and the like run smack into an experimental T-90 platoon and have to be VERY VERY CLEVER to knock it out before it destroys everything! (Yo, Alanwhats, Mycroft Holmes, where are you guys?)
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# ? May 8, 2014 15:56 |
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Davin Valkri posted:Or you can go the Wargame route and keep moving forwards in time. Have the PCs in Chieftains, M60s, Leo 1s, T-64s, and the like run smack into an experimental T-90 platoon and have to be VERY VERY CLEVER to knock it out before it destroys everything! This is the plan; I'd like to make sure the system works with a known reference point before I do anything based in fantasy.
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# ? May 8, 2014 16:14 |
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Crossposting:Forums Terrorist posted:I've been letting my threads slide since this week was finals for most people, but now that they're over I'd like posts or signs that you're alive/interested by Monday.
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# ? May 10, 2014 23:37 |
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So...no Frenchmen for us?
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# ? May 14, 2014 20:57 |
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Guess not. I'll update tonight, and I'm cutting Mycroft Holmes out since he didn't respond.
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