KirbyKhan posted:

I dunno, don't think so. I would be down for participating if someone sets something up.

Fun thing: I recorded a casual LP of Factorio, mostly because I ran out of Factorio videos to watch. I just got finished with one that featured a design by Lars. A 24 furnace smelting column that reserved space for electric furnace upgrades.

How do you guys think about future proofing? For me, when it comes to smelting the paradigm shift from steel furnace to electric furnace is too massive. The space being the obvious wall, but also the lack of a fuel line. Upgrading it in place involves clearing out the lines and extending the column to use the newly reclaimed half belt for ore.


I got this from the google doc that got tossed around 100 pages ago. Link Here

I should probably link the channel as well... BLACK HOLE SPACE WIZARD

sharkbomb posted:

Honestly, at 10 hours, I would restart and TURN OFF biters entirely.

Speaking of, is there a console command to just turn off biters in my current map?

FISHMANPET posted:

Considering what a pain in the but it is when two ore patches overlap, that filter splitter will be nice.

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

hmm i made this U-235 enrichment thing half an hour ago but i forgot about it let's see how much it made--



i think it works

explosivo posted:

Is using the tank flamethrower the best way to get rid of a poo poo load of trees at once? I noticed that doesn't actually burn the trees and just removes them but if there's a way to make my robo slaves do it that'd be awesome too.

Foehammer posted:

I do this for my entire mall, but my friend hijacked my blue underground belt assembler to build something else (I guess because the circuit belts were nearby in the mall for splitters?) instead of just building his own assembler, and cleared the chest limit

When I reverted it back, I forgot to check the limit, and now we have >1k express undergrounds... about 260,000 iron's worth

Gadzuko posted:

Speaking of copy/paste, that's actually a good pro tip for the new players in the thread. Hold shift and right click on a building to copy its settings and shift left click on another building to paste. You can use this for pretty much anything: assemblers, trains, inserters, chests, all of it. Once you get a logistics system you can copy an assembler and paste it to a requester chest and it will automatically set the chest to order the right components that the assembler needs, it's basically a magic button and I love it.

You can also shift left click when building to place a blueprint ghost copy of whatever you're building anywhere onscreen, which is great when you have bots since you don't have to run around so much. Even before that, you can use it to visualize layouts if you don't have a blueprint handy and then just fill it in yourself.

uPen posted:

Does requesting them not work? They should just get delivered like everything else.

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Do there exist any electric forges, or do you need to keep coaling the forges up no matter how far you progress in the game?

Collateral Damage posted:

Just search for the name in the "Install Mods" screen in-game

QoL mods that don't change how the game itself is played:

Bottleneck - the one Luigi mentioned. Adds a small indicator to every crafting machine (assemblers, smelters, etc) to show its status. Green means it's currently producing. Red means it's waiting for materials. Yellow means its output is full. Very handy for getting an overview of where your production bottlenecks are.
Resource Spawner Overhaul - Significantly improves the game's resource spawning algorithm. Generally your starting area will have smaller but more dense fields of ore, but you'll have to travel quite a bit to find the next ones. I hope you like trains.
Related: radarplus for rso - Improves the radar to work better with the larger distances required by using Resource Spawner Overhaul.
Auto Deconstruct - Automatically marks miners that have no more materials to mine for deconstruction so you can see which ones are depleted, and if you have construction bots in range they will deconstruct it.
Long Reach - Lets you interact anywhere you can see on the screen without having to move close to it. Drastically cuts down on the amount of running you have to do. Might feel a little bit cheaty though.
Squeak Through - Makes the collision box of many items smaller so you can move between them even if they're built side by side. Makes things like pipes and fields of miners/assemblers much easier to walk through.
Vehicle Snap - Makes the car and tank snap to the closest 22,5° angle while you drive forward and aren't actively turning. Makes driving long distances, especially along paved roads, much easier.
Rampant - Improves the biter AI and makes it more interesting. They won't just throw themselves blindly into your wall of turrets any more, but pull back and try to find other routes and exploit vulnerabilities in your defense.
Honk - A must have. Makes trains honk when stopping and starting.

Content mods. I'm not (yet) a fan of the crazy complex mods like AngelBobs, so these are mostly just cool stuff or QoL content:

Afraid of the Dark - Gives the player an always on flashlight and adds some more items to deal with the night, most importantly a much better floodlight.
Electric Furnaces - What it says on the tin. Adds electric stone and steel furnaces, and two upgraded electric furnaces. Running electric furnaces is less efficient than feeding them coal, but makes the logistics much easier especially if your main coal deposit is off in the rear end end of nowhere.
Warehousing - Adds basically giant 3x3 and 6x6 chests with proportional storage capacity. Great for loading and unloading trains or just as massive buffers.
Vanilla Loaders - A loader is an alternative to an inserter that feeds items in/out of a machine or container. Goes well together with Warehousing. It will provide a fully compressed belt from a container. There are several loader mods, but I like this one because it looks the most stock-like. They're also 2x1 which is a slight drawback to offset how good they are.
Nanobots - Gives access to early, consumable construction bots. Not as good as the later personal roboport, but a huge boost to your early game productivity.

SettingSun posted:

I picked this game up thanks to the LP of it, and it's scratching an itch I never knew I had. I literally cannot stop playing it. A game hasn't had a hold on me this strong in a while.

Anyway, I've a question about nuclear power: I've used the tutorial in the wiki to set up a rudimentary setup. One reactor, four heat exchanges, eight steam turbines. This is supposed to output a ton of power, way more than what I would ever need in my little baby factory. It is, but not what's advertised. Checking it out, it looks like each turbine isn't working to capacity. They're processing around 20 steam/second instead of their max of 60. Everything is just connected via pipes. Could utilizing pumps increase the throughput here?

SettingSun posted:

For what it's worth this was the case. After turning off my steam engines output went up, and continued to go up when I added new things until they hit capacity. For some reason I thought all the power generators would just generate all their possible power at all times and what wasn't used would go off into the ether. It made sense in my head.

Also I played for like 6 hours straight and managed to launch the rocket for my first win. I then immediately started a new game because I had some new layout designs I wanted to try out. So many ideas, so little time.

This game is good.

chairface posted:

Sorry for the pedantry here but coming from minecraft I'd assumed (incorrectly) this was the case too; You can actually put just under 1.5 stacks in most machines by shoving stuff into the input slot as hard as you can. Another feature-departure from minecraft is that if I have a factorio assembler that makes widgets and is currently idle because a widget is waiting to be output, and I walk up with another widget in my inventory, in factorio I can rather simply just stick the widget I'm holding in the machineoutput slot that currently holds widgets and that's fine, it'll just stack with those. Minecraft generally doesn't let you put stuff "in" to "output" slots.

ionn posted:

How do I figure this out? Like, how far do I need to go before pipes will limit my water supply? How many extra pipes and/or pumps do I add? Are inline pumps ever appropriate, and if so, where and how many? Also, I see the water bar on the heat exchangers, and obviously low is bad and high is good, but how high does it need to be for the thing to work at full power?
I'm honestly fine doing the 4-reactor ones as the "neighbour bonus" gains from going past that aren't that great, but I would like to just have this figured out and at least be able to build a massive chernobylplex if I feel like it.

Sininu posted:

IncredibleIgloo posted:

You can disable hand crafting, I did and it saved me once or twice on the run.

GenericOverusedName posted:

The factory must expand to meet the needs of the expanding factory!

neogeo0823 posted:

So, I tried this out just now, and you can't set the filter to straight fluids nor theoretical designators, like A signal, 1 signal, or green signal. I can, however, set them to something no sane player would ever make, like iron picks, pistols, and also blueprints. I think I'll use the deconstruction planner, as they're red and there's no way anyone would ever actually place one in an stationary inventory, let alone a train. So that solves that issue.

Also, a while back, I asked about essentially figuring out a way to tell if a train is done filling up or being emptied, regardless of what the contents is, without using the inactivity condition in the train's schedule. I've recently revisited that problem and come up with a solution to that, which I'll be writing up a post about after I finish dinner.

EDIT:


That's a really neat trick that I'll use in the future, but for the purposes of the stations I'm making now, it wouldn't be very good. My hope for these stations is that people will plonk down the tracks, plonk down the stations, set filters and options at the stations, and from there, the trains will start flowing. I want them to be as user-friendly as possible, so having a bunch of poo poo that they have disconnect and manually reconnect would run counter to that.

xzzy posted:

Someone on reddit dug up the post where factorio was announced on a minecraft forum:

https://forum.industrial-craft.net/thread/8845-factorio/

Which if you click around brings you to this video. Hell yeah programmer art.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1qOCAM9Syw

Collateral Damage posted:

Personal burner generator.

xzzy posted:

My very first game was like that, got a lucky seed with dense forests an all four approaches. Wasn't yet aware the effect trees had on pollution, but I was annoyed that all the trees made expanding my factory difficult. Notice "flamethrower" in the tech tree and figured that would solve all my expansion needs. Suddenly all that bottled up pollution was set loose and I had many angry bugs making themselves known.

Fortunately I also had tanks researched so I was able to fight back.

crabrock posted:

obviously you need subterranean biters

Panfilo posted:

Yeah I did this but must've screwed up somewhere because the train is just sitting at the coal station and nothing is happening.

Besides cargo and liquid cars, are there any other types of train cars? Would be cool if there was one with gun turrets on it.

Do trains crash into each other if you don't set up the signals and switches properly?

Collateral Damage posted:

It's also possible that whatever you had the inserter pointing at wasn't set up to receive whatever was in the chest (or was full).

An inserter will only insert items that the receiving building will accept, so for instance if you have an inserter taking out of a chest and putting into an assembler, it will only take the items that the assembler needs, regardless of what's in the chest.

redleader posted:

Are you close to the tank? The tank is v. good in midgame. Ignore its main cannon; just use its machine gun with red ammo. It shreds bases and biters real good.

Kraftwerk posted:

These are typically better than lasers right?

Solumin posted:

Channels count stuff. (The official name is "signal".) Like you said, there's a signal for each commodity, plus several virtual signals: A - Z, for example.
You manipulate them by outputting from a decider into that channel. Constant combinators can output a constant value onto a bunch of different channels.
A set/reset latch would be the best way to reset a counter, I think. The latch stores the count, then can be reset when you want to.

Circuit networks aren't really programming. They're logic, you're using gates (combinators) to control signals. You might find this tutorial useful: http://nandgame.com/
It's inspired by the "NAND to Tetrist" courses, and gives a pretty good introduction to logic circuits. In particular, the latch and a data flip-flop exercises will be the most helpful -- a lot of the earlier stuff is provided in-game by the combinators.


Edit: Filthy Monkey's answer is really good! So just do that. Unless you really want to learn circuits, which you don't need to.

Megasabin posted:

Yeah, after thinking about it, it would barely save me any goods, and probably slow down my factory a lot. I just want to find a cool fun use for wires and combinators! I know people use them for fluid cracking, but I don't really see a need, since I' producing enough of all 3 fluids right now without issues.

Oxyclean posted:

Cool - Im trying to get trains to work, I've build a single line (kind of like a u shape) but I'm having trouble getting it to recognize the stations. "Go to station" seems to be working in one direction but not the other, I tried putting a locomotive on both ends too.

Ciaphas posted:

I get the feeling I'm stretching on this one, but: is there any way to lay down blueprint ghosts and NOT have them immediately fulfilled by construction bots, besides deconstructing the robotics network in the area? For visualizing layouts and the like.

Dancer posted:

If this is the first time you're playing the game: no. Nuclear has a few different puzzles that can be rather tricky and will take a lot of time to figure out. Solar is close to brain-dead. Get yourself a sun farm going.