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H.P. Hovercraft posted:there's an insane amount of money spent widening highways, and maintaining said highways, far far more than is seen operating what meager mass transit we have That's fair, they might recognize that the money they'll save in road maintenance and expansion will far outpace earnings from tolls and what not. I do still expect the state's very powerful restaurant lobby to put enormous pressure on cities to get white collar workers back into city centers during meal times ASAP though.
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ProperGanderPusher posted:there was a big Reddit thread a while ago about how “native” San Franciscans own cars and how only tourists and transplants bother with MUNI. lol as someone who grew up in SF (and doesnt own a car  ) this is hilariously wrong lmao why the gently caress are you reading redditSF natives ride muni all the loving time why the gently caress would it be only transplants and tourists?
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The bay area related subreddits are full of chuds, nazis and people that lived in the city for 12 months that gatekeep what you're allowed to call it and Frisco is apparently not one of them. Complete waste of time reading that shite.
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Feb 17, 2021 20:39
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Weird to hear a subreddit sucks.
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Feb 17, 2021 20:55
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There are two types of SF residents: those who complain about MUNI and those who never tried it.
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Feb 17, 2021 21:09
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The Oakland subreddit is pretty chill
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There are plenty of perfectly fine subreddits
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A bunch of companies are going to go partially or fully WFH but a bunch aren't. The actual money involved is going to be less important for some because there's a ton of things that companies do that wastes money that we know are wrong and taught in MBA school are wrong. Never underestimate the organizational inertia and inefficiency in the business world. Big cities should still be building out mass transit because you can't WFH every job and it's vastly more sustainable than cars. Also, and I know it sounds crazy, not all reasons for travelling are to be a wage slave.
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Sydin posted:I also fully expect that if this ever blows over and there are still major firms with big downtown offices allowing 100% remote work like Twitter, we will see SF and other major cities to start offering tax incentives to companies that make some percentage of their employees come in. Because you don't pay for rail tickets or bridge tolls if you don't have to commute into the city, and you're probably making yourself lunch at home instead of going out to eat at restaurants for your breaks. The system is built around forcing people to commute. In my understanding, this is why there are already offices in SF. When I lived in SF in 2007-2009 there were some startups there but most were in the south bay. Once I moved to the south bay, lots, and lots and lots of startups moved to SF, although there are still lots in the south bay. edit: 'sf offered tax incentives to startups' is the reason I was told in like, 2010, why lots of companies were opening offices there. redreader fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Feb 17, 2021 |
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Feb 17, 2021 22:35
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Lol reddit.
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redreader posted:In my understanding, this is why there are already offices in SF. When I lived in SF in 2007-2009 there were some startups there but most were in the south bay. Once I moved to the south bay, lots, and lots and lots of startups moved to SF, although there are still lots in the south bay. I wonder how much was tax benefits for startups to move to Mid-Market, and how much was "founders live in SF and don't want to commute"
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luminalflux posted:I wonder how much was tax benefits for startups to move to Mid-Market, and how much was "founders live in SF and don't want to commute" The latter is why early-stage startups started preferring the city over the peninsula during the 00's, it was just the lifestyle preference for the sorts of people that would found or work at one. The tax benefit was specifically eliminating payroll tax, so it appealed to established companies or startups that had found success and started a hiring spree. Twitter would have been founded in SF either way, but without the tax benefit it might not have stayed there.
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FogHelmut posted:Lol "big back yard" in California. I've seen row homes with more space between the houses than in these OC suburbs. These are all single family homes  And this is in Ontario which has tons of empty dairy farms! edit: And a few still running! 
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FogHelmut posted:Lol "big back yard" in California. I've seen row homes with more space between the houses than in these OC suburbs. Most of the single family homes in the Bay Area are basically legacy structures built from the 40s through the 80s. Plenty of them have stupidly spacious backyards, sometimes just a few blocks from trillion-dollar corporate HQs.
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Imagine making the decision to combine the worst aspects of both row homes and suburbs.
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CopperHound posted:Imagine making the decision to combine the worst aspects of both row homes and suburbs. "An extra home for every six spaces? loving sold, just pour that money right into my bank account booyah. My number is going up up up."
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Lmao at dropping a million dollars to live next to literal lakes of cow poo poo.
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BIG DRYWALL MAN posted:Lmao at dropping a million dollars to live next to literal lakes of cow poo poo. In the inland empire no less.
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The cloud over Ontario/Chino is much too green to really be called smog in the traditional sense.
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Apparently California EDD is hiring! They had a ton of people walk out because of working conditions or something. Yeesh, I don't know what must be worse, trying get your unemployment from them or trying to work for them.
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e.pilot posted:In the inland empire no less. For the privilege of commuting hours each day into LA on the 10.
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Jaxyon posted:For the privilege of commuting hours each day into LA on the 10. That's not so bad. Get a fast pass and set it to 3. Bing bong so simple.
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DoomTrainPhD posted:That's not so bad. Get a fast pass and set it to 3. Bing bong so simple. Does LA also have the variable cost toll lanes that let you get to work faster for $50?
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jetz0r posted:Does LA also have the variable cost toll lanes that let you get to work faster for $50? The 91 Express toll lanes can get you from Orange County to Riverside for $30 if you travel at 3pm on a Friday 
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FCKGW posted:The 91 Express toll lanes can get you from Orange County to Riverside for $30 if you travel at 3pm on a Friday I'm from Oregon and what the gently caress is this?
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punk rebel ecks posted:I'm from Oregon and what the gently caress is this? capitalism
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jetz0r posted:Does LA also have the variable cost toll lanes that let you get to work faster for $50? Yeah, but they have a 2+ people in your car is free thing, so everybody just sets them to 3 people on the transponder.
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People from out of state always think that the 405 is like a parking lot. The truth is that they are all parking lots in rush hour, but the 91 is just as painful if not more. The funny thing is that outside of rush hour, there is no real reason to use the express lanes anyway unless there's an accident or other disturbance.
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I went to a conference hosted by OCTA a couple years ago and man they are so proud about their express lanes and how much money they rake in. Between all the people congratulating them for this somebody asked if they actually had any kind of plan to fix traffic, and the OCTA guy was all "Oh yeah we're gonna expand the 91 with another express lane so even more cars can come through and we make even more money!" 
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the LA HOT lanes make no money because everyone cheats on them but Caltrans is too invested in the idea to admit it
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What the gently caress is wrong with your state? Shouldn't it be good since it's all Democrats in office?
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hate to break it to you but the democrats suck rear end too
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Half our Dems are beholden to interests, and the other half are basically Republicans since they time-locked their opinions to 1970. Oh and they have to play nice with the party for spoilz
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punk rebel ecks posted:What the gently caress is wrong with your state? Shouldn't it be good since it's all Democrats in office? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0
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California refused to lift the property tax cap to fix their schools California is the state that passed Prop 8, aka "prop hate", which banned gay marriage California voters voted to let gig worker companies force their workers to be classed as contractors California democrats still have a supermajority in their congress (unless it changed recently), which they likely maintain by not going full left on all the issues and let the voters decide on really crazy ideas via propositions.
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California is a land of contrasts but at least Orange County has made significant strides into electing progressive officials in the past couple of years such as Dave Min for state senate and Katie Porter (incumbent for 2020) for US representative.
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punk rebel ecks posted:What the gently caress is wrong with your state? Shouldn't it be good since it's all Democrats in office? this is me this is @ me when I thought California was the good state
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sb hermit posted:California refused to lift the property tax cap to fix their schools Yeah and you vote for the dumbest propositions. Here we vote for cool poo poo like decriminalizing drugs. droll posted:this is @ me when I thought California was the good state There are no "good" states.
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hey remember when we could have had ranked choice voting but the republicans blocked it?
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droll posted:hey remember when we could have had ranked choice voting but the republicans blocked it? Didn’t California democrats pass Medicare for All when republicans were around to block it and then do jack poo poo about anything once they gained a supermajority and ever since?
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