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Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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# ¿ May 2, 2014 04:07

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Zeroisanumber posted:

High Elf. I haven't seen an elf team done well yet.

Then you probably shouldn't encourage GNU to play them...

# ¿ May 2, 2014 04:21

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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tlarn posted:

I'm aware that some teams really shine when they are around a certain team value range, such as needing a few skills before they start kicking rear end, or hitting critical mass early and can't keep up with other teams at higher team values.

Do the Necromantic, Lizardmen, and Khorne teams have such Team Value issues?

Lizards and Necros are both considered top tier teams. Lizards start hitting their stride at about 12-1300 and really don't stop. Necro starts a little bit sooner but they cap out a little faster than the scaly bros.

# ¿ May 3, 2014 01:46

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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GNU Order posted:

Werewolf (1)

This is bad and you should feel bad.

Also name the werewolf that.

EDIT: Name the werewolf His Hair Was Perfect

Blackmage Yapo fucked around with this message at 05:16 on May 4, 2014

# ¿ May 4, 2014 04:49

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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AJ_Impy posted:

Zombie - Bonecrusher McGraw 'Boney' was a mild-mannered chartered accountant who one day had the misfortune of crossing the street without looking. As chartered accountancy is nearly impossible to get work for when legally deceased, he had to fall back on his meager sporting talents to make ends meet. Even now, his lifeless groans, moans and wistful sighs indicate his unhappiness with his lot in unlife, and he wants nothing more than to find a way back to double-entry bookkeeping.

Oh come on, at least go Bonecruncher McGraw for the play on accounting practices.

# ¿ May 4, 2014 16:46

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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CommaToes posted:

Better be named Scruff

I think you mean Seymour :c00lbert:

# ¿ May 9, 2014 01:35

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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AJ_Impy posted:

Telling me what to vote for? Hmph!

4: Blow it all on cheerleaders

This, but get a few rear end coaches too.

# ¿ May 9, 2014 22:48

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Agent355 posted:

Skaven.

Me and yapo have a bonus game planned for some point where we finally do LP rats vs LP norse and see who comes out the victor ( I will have more points and all my players will be dead).

Dunno when thats going to roll around though.

Imagine a flolem punching linerats forever.

Also I have an incredible record against rats.

# ¿ May 12, 2014 09:08

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Steelpudding posted:

Ahh! Pro elves! My second favorite elves.

Listen to this man! I can't really think of any situation where that's not the case, but if you can do it, you have to!

Big hand gunner is a pretty good reason to never surf the ball carrier.

# ¿ May 15, 2014 19:19

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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GNU Order posted:

If you want some surf-heavy Blood Bowl perhaps I can direct you to the Norse Democracy LP

420 surf erryday.

That being said +MA is really the only choice here.

# ¿ May 18, 2014 01:34

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Hungry like is the only choice

# ¿ May 24, 2014 19:24

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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GNU Order posted:

Yapo is a bitch, I'm not worried about him

Rude. Good thing I already have like 4 mightily blowfull dudes then.

# ¿ May 26, 2014 01:38

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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GNU Order posted:

Hmm, mini lesson time

Throw Team Mate is a skill that several Big Guys get. It allows them to throw specific players on their team, players who have a skill called Right Stuff. Right Stuff just means you can throw that player on a TTM, nothing more. Trolls have TTM, Goblins have Right Stuff.

When you throw a player, you aim for a square within a reduced passing grid range. So, rather than the 12(?) or 9 or whatever normal squares you can pass the ball, a thrown player can only go 6(or 5?) squares max. So, the Big Guy makes a couple rolls to try to pass the player, and if he succeeds the player gets picked up and chucked down the pitch. The goblin (or other thrown player) has to make an agility roll to try and land on their feet (more Tackle Zones make this roll more harder) and landing on a square occupied by a player bangs the goblin into that player, knocking them both down and turning the goblin into a makeshift projectile. However, this can also be used to let a goblin cover way more ground, assuming he lands upright. If he fails the agility roll he falls on his rear end and has to roll armor.

Of course, the goblin being thrown can also be holding the ball. You can see how this could be advantageous. Instead of doing a series of pushes to score a 1 Turn Touchdown on the turn where you receive the ball, you could simply hand the ball off to a goblin standing next to a Troll, have the Troll throw the goblin, have the goblin land upright (falling over causes the ball to fall down in what is probably enemy territory and end your turn) and have him make a mad dash to the end zone.

Of course, the process of actually getting the Troll to cooperate is cumbersome at best and impossible at worst. To actually go through the action of throwing your goblin, you need to first make the Troll's normal Really Stupid roll, which is a normal negatrait which we'll discuss in the video (basically he needs to roll 2+ or 4+ to follow orders, failing means he just stands around like a big loving idiot). Then, he needs to make the actual pass roll. If he rolls a 1 the Goblin falls out of his hands and has to make an Agility roll to land on the ground next to the Troll, failing sends him face-first to the turf. Odds are you're not going to have a great Agility roll with your Troll because he's Agility 1, so the Goblin is probably going to land off-mark, like a scattered pass would. The landing is also very hard for an AG3 unit to do.

Having said that, I have an Underworld (knockoff lovely Goblins, we might run into them at some point) team whose gimmick was the 1TTD using TTM, they are about as successful as you could imagine. 9 wins, 37 losses, 6 ties.

Like I said, goblins are a weird team. Pretty much every team that is comprised mostly of little ST2 stunty units like goblins, halflings, snotlings etc are weird.

You forgot Always Hungry and that TTMs are never accurate, even if you roll a 6

# ¿ May 27, 2014 07:09

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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apostateCourier posted:

Seriously. Playing against the AI will teach you lots and lots of really bad habits.

Quoting this for troof.

# ¿ May 28, 2014 20:22

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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SDS if you don't start getting you rules spergin' right I'm gonna have to start ragin' and doin' big effortposts on how wrong you are.

# ¿ May 31, 2014 06:43

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Pass

# ¿ Jun 1, 2014 14:33

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Maekrix Waere posted:

See, this is why I originally voted for Diving Catch, because it lets Wight Power catch accurate passes on a 2+, and inaccurate passes that would land next to him on a 3+. It would let him (in my admittedly limited experience) function decently well as a catcher, and lets us start with elf bullshit right now. Pass would too, of course, but, again, in my experience, Ghouls are usually going to be the primary ball handlers of the team. They're going to be picking up and running with the ball, and they're the ones who should get Pass (if we want to elf it up), because they'll probably have the ball in hand already.

And for the people who want murder, having catching skills on a Wight also might help him murder people more, because, as a catching threat, opponents will want to mark him, putting them in perfect punching position.

But oh well, its probably too late for the vote to shift significantly.

Diving catch is a normal on ghouls and werewolfs, though. Pass is a double for any player on the team.

# ¿ Jun 2, 2014 11:16

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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GNU why did you steal my block dice for this game?

Also never loving GFI into endzones.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2014 05:20

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GNU Order posted:

Go look up at that sideline cage. Sideline caging can be very useful because you use the sideline to prevent the side of your character, meaning you only need two players to act as corners. In some situations, sideline caging is very effective and a huge pain in the rear end to stop. However, I have shown pretty effectively that standing an unprotected player (either of the cage corners) two squares from the sideline is a dangerous choice when you have a 9 Movement, Frenzy werewolf.

420 surf 'errday.

Seriously though, never EVER sideline cage against Norse or Khorne. And if you see either of these factions sideline caging its probably a ploy to get you closer to the sideline.

# ¿ Jun 12, 2014 02:24

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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uPen posted:

Adding cards would be super cool and a good way to make me not feel like I've been ripped off when I buy BB2 on sale in a year or two.

I just want Helmut Wulf

# ¿ Jun 17, 2014 02:29

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Shadowing

Kick

Blitzer

# ¿ Jun 17, 2014 16:38

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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drat you phone

# ¿ Jun 17, 2014 16:38

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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You can choose to not frenzy, you just have to choose to multi block instead.

# ¿ Jun 19, 2014 12:09

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GnuOrder I like how your largely AV 8 team with Regen is less sturdy than the two previous AV 7 teams that were lp'd

# ¿ Jun 28, 2014 03:04

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TheNabster posted:

I'm going to stick with my Norse team. Block on all my players makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Without being Hitler.

Pro tip: the yhetee is a wild animal, too.

# ¿ Jul 3, 2014 14:42

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Holy poo poo yes to Flesh Gordon

Also give that zombie +AV. 70k for no real skills? He's almost an elf lino!

# ¿ Jul 12, 2014 16:01

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1stGear posted:

That chain-pushing could not have ended better if you planned it that way.

You have to plan those sorts of pushes out. You get used to doing it if you play enough Norse or Khorne.

EDIT: Just realized you were talking about the block. It happens to me so often that I just forget about them most of the time.

Blackmage Yapo fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Jul 20, 2014

# ¿ Jul 19, 2014 21:57

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Luquos posted:

Oooh, Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros based team. It's a shame that basically everyone only knows one song of theirs. (Also, yes, Norse for best team)

I also realized I made the team before the third album came out so there is only one lino from the new album and he's already BH.

# ¿ Jul 20, 2014 03:11

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Cheerleaders

# ¿ Jul 20, 2014 19:18

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Rogue0071 posted:

I don't get the point of cheerleaders as a comedy/fun vote. Voting for suboptimal but fun skills makes sense - it's cool to see what kind of crazy unconventional tactics and plays we can make. Voting for something that means having fewer interesting players and skills is directly counterproductive to seeing more fun matches.

It's not counterproductive if our goal is to make his team more bloaty and thus more susceptible to murder.

Remember, a vote for two cheerleaders is a vote for mighty blow on the other team.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2014 19:51

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Male Man posted:

It's not about min-maxing. Cheerleaders just don't do anything. I'd rather dump limited resources into getting a rad mighty blow/piling on werewolf or something that actually makes things happen. Because then I can watch things happen. And then I will be entertained.

I hate to break it to you but clawpomb isn't rad. That and a PO wolf is gonna get stomped into dust so fast it'll make your head spin.

If you want the happening to intensify just vote for everyone to get frenzy. EVEN THE ZOMBIES.

# ¿ Jul 23, 2014 21:21

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Grab

Jump Up

Piling Awn

Piling Awn

Make it so

# ¿ Aug 6, 2014 03:49

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apostateCourier posted:

Name that ghoul A Cheerleader

Quotin' this because I'm down.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2014 20:55

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Duuk posted:

That's dubs because Passing.

Keep firing and hiring until you get a ghoul that rolls dubs then.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2014 23:57

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Buy rear end Coaches

# ¿ Aug 14, 2014 20:57

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Jump Up

Dem bloom rats.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2014 00:05

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Fat Samurai posted:

I think the only time I have won with ogres has been via ragequit.

6 snortlings (one of them a DP) surrounding your best, currently prone, player are scary, bad statline or not.

You only need 1 ballhandler in Chaos, and that's the Beastman that rolls doubles and gets Dodge (maybe an extra backup). Then he gets block and Sure Hands and a couple of mutations or attributes and the ball stays the entire match glued to his hands, leaving the rest of your team to murder everything.

This means Clawpomb or Guard for your linedudes, usually. Having that number of killers helps with survibability, too, both by attrition and by having too many killer players for the opposing team to focus on a single one.

Chaos can be cute an try to build passers and catchers, but I feel that's playing against the strenghts of the team.

You just gotta roll more +agi and doubles. Beastmen can make for some pro ball handlers: https://fumbbl.com/p/player?player_id=8605937

# ¿ Sep 4, 2014 08:52

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Fat Samurai posted:

That could be said of Khemri with enough +Agi rolls. I'm a scrub in the dice rolling department.

Incidentally, I think I'm going to start a Chaos team and farm the poo poo out of the players, in order to REALLY get the fear ragequit going with pubbies. Do you fire anyone who doesn't roll a double or +Stat as his first level up?

If you're going to farm a clawpomb nightmare team, make it nurgle. The warriors have extra defense from getting hit back, still can use a goat for ball handling, and rotters are better foulers. Plus you can do it for like 1600TV instead of being north of 2k.

# ¿ Sep 4, 2014 09:27

Blackmage Yapo: Mar 27, 2008; Odin You Sad I Have
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Buy a Ghoul

Dirty Player

# ¿ Sep 21, 2014 15:16

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 18:44

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Camoes posted:

Kick, it always seems so useful.

Kick is much more useful in fumbbl when you can actually decide when to use it. It also means you have to have a zombie not on the los or in a wide zone.

# ¿ Sep 21, 2014 22:21

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