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Dr Christmas posted:In John Wick 3, I wonder about the Continental employees who had several hours of forewarning about the crime Illuminati death squad coming to evict Winston, and apparently voluntarily lay down their lines to protect their boss’s cushy management job. I don't think Continental management or staff realized how good the new upgraded shock trooper armor was. John Wick is also in a weird world where you never see cops and people just take for granted that rival gangs of assassins murder one another in the street. I think the only cop in the whole series is that one guy who knocks on Wick's door in the first movie and is all like, "anything I need to know? No? Cool."
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He’s also in the second and I say he should have a recurring role where he just leans into the room and sees John surrounded by corpses and says “you good John?” And then leans back out
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May 29, 2020 19:59
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They never should have made the secret assassin society the focus in parts 2 and 3.
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May 29, 2020 20:10
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Krispy Wafer posted:I get that. There are untold cases of soldiers just disappearing in a mist of red, but that's usually artillery. You generally don't get vaporized in a small arms fight. I watched Polar on netflix the other night (not great or even necessarily good, but theres a reasonably entertaining 90 minutes there. Unfortunately the runtime is about 120 minutes..) Its like two films smashed together, one upbeat energetic film about a team of young assassins trying to hunt down and kill an old assassin on the brink of retirement, played by Mads Mikkelson, and one a slow downbeat movie about the regrets of an aging hitman on the verge of retirement, still played by Mads Mikkelson. The two halves just dont work well together. Its like someone dropped the script for a smoking aces sequel proposal and accidentally shuffled in pages from someones first draft of a Leon fanfiction, then wedged a hilariously overlong and gratuitous sex scene in the middle and somehow inexplicably persuaded Mads and Venessa Hudgens to be in it. Matt Lucas (who is very much not a good actor) is also in it because I think the casting director was pulling names out a hat. If you like that kind of thing I'd say its enteraining bad rather than boring bad. Anyway, the relevant bit; Near the end Mads has beaten the baddie group of young assassins, and all the bad guy has left are nameless henchmen. So he kills a few dozen of them and goes to the baddies mansion. The baddie, with his 4 remaining guards is watching on a monitor. As soon as Mads enters the mansion, the guards immediately run out the office, down the stairs, and out the mansion, passing Mads in the doorway. As they pass him one of them yells "sorry!" and another says "He's upstairs!". Made me laugh.
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May 29, 2020 20:33
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Remember in Heroes where they built up Peter unlocking all his powers and becoming this big badass and fighting Sylar who also had a bunch of crazy powers and then it happened and it was all off screen? It was like that South Park war between Heaven and Hell where they just stood there describing all the cool poo poo that they were seeing.
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May 29, 2020 20:33
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DrBouvenstein posted:There was a Thanksgiving themes episode of Ellen where she volunteered at a homeless shelter/soup kitchen for the day, and meets another volunteer who, TWIST, is actually homeless himself. its because they know shes friends with bush
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May 29, 2020 20:37
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also re heroes, i still posted in tviv back then  remember that guy with the glasses who was the cheerleaders dad, he was so cool. he was a bad guy, and a good guy, and also both also the secret service guy from prison break (not Fichtner... tall serious guy black hair kinda balding). that was another great network tv show that definitely didnt just randomly get cancelled & renewed & rewritten all willy nilly... Kellerman, thats his name i remembered it! he was hunting the protagonists, but then he had qualms because the audience liked him and did a double cross on his bosses, but then i think he got cast in some other show so they killed his character (but off screen so we could still cross fingers for his return) jesus why did i watch this poo poo
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May 29, 2020 20:44
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Push El Burrito posted:Remember in Heroes where they built up Peter unlocking all his powers and becoming this big badass and fighting Sylar who also had a bunch of crazy powers and then it happened and it was all off screen? It was like that South Park war between Heaven and Hell where they just stood there describing all the cool poo poo that they were seeing. Hey, we got to see Mohinder and his amazing Door Holding power.
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May 29, 2020 21:06
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DrBouvenstein posted:There was a Thanksgiving themes episode of Ellen where she volunteered at a homeless shelter/soup kitchen for the day, and meets another volunteer who, TWIST, is actually homeless himself. Because they know there's corn and they know she's doing a bit and they are sick of her crap.
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May 29, 2020 22:16
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Dr Christmas posted:In John Wick 3, I wonder about the Continental employees who had several hours of forewarning about the crime Illuminati death squad coming to evict Winston, and apparently voluntarily lay down their lines to protect their boss’s cushy management job. Boyhowdy, if you are baffled by people willingly laying down their lives for capital...
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May 29, 2020 22:20
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Tunicate posted:Lategame Heroes decided that they needed a twist every episode, so they decided that every episode they'd flip a coin. Heads, a good guy turns bad (or vice versa). Tails, a character who was previously part of the petrelli family actually isn't, or someone who previously wasn't becomes a petrelli (that is, they swap their petrelli parity). Edge, both happen. I like this theory of Petrelli paternity parity polarity probability
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May 29, 2020 22:22
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Push El Burrito posted:Remember in Heroes where they built up Peter unlocking all his powers and becoming this big badass and fighting Sylar who also had a bunch of crazy powers and then it happened and it was all off screen? It was like that South Park war between Heaven and Hell where they just stood there describing all the cool poo poo that they were seeing. IIRC the worst time was in late season 3 when Peter and his brother go to fight Sylar and IIRC the fight literally happens behind a closed door with flashing lights happening behind it. It also lead to one of the most insanely stupid subplots imo where Sylar kills Nathan and so Peter and Nathan’s mom decides to force the local telepath to brainwash Sylar into believing he’s Nathan and using his shape shifting to look like him.
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May 29, 2020 22:31
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Push El Burrito posted:Remember in Heroes where they built up Peter unlocking all his powers and becoming this big badass and fighting Sylar who also had a bunch of crazy powers and then it happened and it was all off screen? It was like that South Park war between Heaven and Hell where they just stood there describing all the cool poo poo that they were seeing. I was fine the first time they did this, when Hiro or somebody traveled to the future and it was Future Peter vs Future Sylar. It felt like skipping ahead and taking a sneak peak at the last chapter of a book for a moment, it was kinda cool. But then they did it again and again, with present day characters in current plot-lines, which ended up feeling more like skipping over the most exciting chapter in a book.
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May 29, 2020 22:32
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Eh! Frank posted:Hiro. Hiro was the best part of Heroes, I don't know when in season 2 I stopped watching. Do not @ me.
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May 29, 2020 22:38
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdkyPKVF0Ek I suffered my way through BSG on a deployment and remember only this part and that starbuck was jesus or something and they reset the time loop? what the gently caress.
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May 30, 2020 00:45
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Zombie movies and tv shows rely on only the dumbest of the dumb to survive. See a massive horde of zombies coming at you and you only have a 6 shot gun? Better just stand there and try to kill them instead of running. Have a sanctuary with foolproof defenses? Bypass them and get everyone you love killed just so you can have "fun" again. World War Z has a pretty bad example of this one with the singing in jerusalem. Just sing without the megaphone. If the thing trying to kill you can hear, don't make really loud noises maybe. Go back to normal human stuff after you don't have tens of thousands of zombies outside your walls.
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May 30, 2020 00:57
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I think a lot of zombie movie stupidity is retroactively justified with the current events, especially the bit about selfish breaking out of the safe space and dooming everyone else because you're bored.
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May 30, 2020 01:01
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Yeah, Romero’s zombie films were always about how horrible we are as human beings and how quickly we’d continue to turn on one another in even the absolute worst circumstances.
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May 30, 2020 01:14
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Samuringa posted:I think a lot of zombie movie stupidity is retroactively justified with the current events, especially the bit about selfish breaking out of the safe space and dooming everyone else because you're bored. I mean, it's realistic, but still annoying. Obviously, if we get overrun by zombies, i'll be one of the chosen few who don't just get eaten right away, and i'll use my insight from these movies to never go to these sanctuary cities trying to rebuild, like in 28 weeks later where they have a pretty good system...except for their emergency response being to gather in an insecure, unlit crowded space. That's how you get eaten. Wait until they work out the kinks and weed out the stupid people and then return to society.
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May 30, 2020 01:14
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Samuringa posted:I think a lot of zombie movie stupidity is retroactively justified with the current events, especially the bit about selfish breaking out of the safe space and dooming everyone else because you're bored. The pandemic's justified every single dumbass in the history of disaster movies.
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May 30, 2020 01:24
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Byzantine posted:The pandemic's justified every single dumbass in the history of disaster movies. If anything the people in zombie movies weren't stupid enough. Next movie needs to have people out there biting zombies to try and prove that they're George Soros crisis actors.
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May 30, 2020 01:26
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Come on everyone, if we all get bit only the weak will die and the rest of us will have herd immunity!
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Byzantine posted:The pandemic's justified every single dumbass in the history of disaster movies. 
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May 30, 2020 01:43
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Speaking of John Wick, l've only seen clips from the films and holy loving poo poo I have an irrational desire to never watch any of them. Is it really just a guy shooting every loving thing in sight? I caught some poo poo in one thread somewhere around here for expressing the opinion that if the whole film is like the clips I saw than I'm gonna nope out on it. Might have even been this one but near as I can tell the movies are just...gun porn I guess. I enjoy good action movies and don't mind violent movies in general but is there anything more to these films than Keanu Reeves blasting motherfuckers in the face/head and reloading? Seriously wondering.
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May 30, 2020 02:37
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It's basically a Bruce Lee movie but instead of stylishly murdering hordes of anonymous mooks with his feet and hands punctuated by boss battles it's that... with guns.
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May 30, 2020 02:41
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Well, the first movie can be some up as someone killed keanu's dog and he kills like 80 people.
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May 30, 2020 02:41
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BiggerBoat posted:I enjoy good action movies and don't mind violent movies in general but is there anything more to these films than Keanu Reeves blasting motherfuckers in the face/head and reloading?
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May 30, 2020 02:43
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There are also some scenes where Keanu chooses which guns he is going to use to shoot people, and others where he talks to people about who he is going to shoot next and where they might be found. Sometimes characters explain that there will be consequences for shooting the person he is going to shoot.
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May 30, 2020 02:47
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He also kills a few dudes using his fists, knives, books, a pencil, an axe, and a horse. To name a few. Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Well, the first movie can be some up as someone killed keanu's dog and he kills like 80 people. Apperently the filmmakers sat down and calculated exactly how many people you would be justified to murder to avenge a puppy and that's the number of people John kills in the film. FreudianSlippers has a new favorite as of 02:51 on May 30, 2020 |
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May 30, 2020 02:48
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MariusLecter posted:Come on everyone, if we all get bit only the weak will die and the rest of us will have herd immunity! Y'all are overreacting, I got bit back in January and I'm braaaaaaaaains....<clears throat pointedly> fine, you can't get the zombie virus twice
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FreudianSlippers posted:Apperently the filmmakers sat down and calculated exactly how many people you would be justified to murder to avenge a puppy and that's the number of people John kills in the film. Really if it was just a regular dude that killed your dog, you need to kill one dude to avenge it. But if it's the son of some Russian bratvá boss, turns out they're going to try to protect him, so you need to kill everyone else. Except Kevin Nash, who you spare out of a sense of professional courtesy.
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But yeah, it's not notable for its script, acting, or lore that makes any sense. It's pure style, cinematography, editing, and fight choreography. But it has possibly the best of the latter of any action movie in the last ten years. It's not what it does but how it does it. Very excited about the director doing the new Highlander movies (and he's keeping the Queen soundtrack!) Also personally I'm a sucker for the trope of where enemies in movies have mad respect for each other's skills and the Wick movies have a lot of that. I did kind of regret watching the third Wick movie though because it didn't really add anything new except a sidekick and a dog and really doubled down and went up its own rear end on the dumbass assassin world lore. Imagined has a new favorite as of 02:58 on May 30, 2020 |
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John Wick movies sound tracks are awesome, also. FreudianSlippers posted:Apperently the filmmakers sat down and calculated exactly how many people you would be justified to murder to avenge a puppy and that's the number of people John kills in the film. They undershot the numbers if anything.
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Triarii posted:There are also some scenes where Keanu chooses which guns he is going to use to shoot people, and others where he talks to people about who he is going to shoot next and where they might be found.
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May 30, 2020 03:23
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Are you really having an issue with the idea that the John Wick series does not exist in the same sort of universe we live in?
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May 30, 2020 03:38
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Are you really having an issue with the idea that the John Wick series does not exist in the same sort of universe we live in?
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May 30, 2020 04:23
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Man who gives a poo poo. It's like the movie with the space wizards, it's flashy and cool and doesn't make any sense when you think about it for more than a second and if that reduces your enjoyment of it that sounds like far more of a "you" problem.
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May 30, 2020 04:38
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I like JW1 the most. It’s more self contained than the others and the villain is by far the best
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May 30, 2020 04:39
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Imagined posted:But yeah, it's not notable for its script except for the scene in John Wick 2 with the sommelier played by Peter Serafinowicz, where they have no need to talk like that, but they do anyway. Because its fun.
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The best part of the trilogy is simply everyone just making GBS threads their pants when they hear he is after them. There's no setup scene where he has to do a bunch of incredible poo poo or has to sneak through the white house to assassinate the pope or whatever. There's just mobbed up guys going "Oh..." and looking like they just pissed themselves. It's a rare kinda revenge film that doesn't make the lead a good guy, but gives him a reason for revenge that literally everyone can agree with. It's got some cool scenes, the first one has the best gun fights (most realistic), but the second and third have loving AMAZING sound editing done. Also, katana fight on motorbikes. It's just a great set of action movies. Plus the Iron Chef dude is the baddy for the last movie. Also all 3 movies take place inside like, 3 days to a week, tops. Wick is not having a good time.
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