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DrBouvenstein posted:I've never seen the Disney version all the way through, but I do remember the version from the 80's anime Grimm's Fairly Tales that aired on Nickelodeon. I liked their plan in Maleficent to just throw all the spinning wheels, with needles, in a big room all smashed up so there are thousand and thousands of needles at awkward angles in there for someone to stab themselves on.
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That Italian Guy posted:Rewatched the new RoboCop for the first time and it's still mediocre. The funniest thing is the Ed209 is a better peacekeeping machine since they immediately stop shooting when a non combatant gets in the line of fire, while RoboCop shoots a target he's not supposed to (the bad guy) by overcoming his directives. That is certainly one way to interpret robocop
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That Italian Guy posted:Rewatched the new RoboCop for the first time and it's still mediocre. The funniest thing is the Ed209 is a better peacekeeping machine since they immediately stop shooting when a non combatant gets in the line of fire, while RoboCop shoots a target he's not supposed to (the bad guy) by overcoming his directives. The idea that robot cops would be banned in the usa seems naive.
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Although using a loophole to get around the law is very realistic.
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May 7, 2021 23:25
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Sorry To Bother You had a more realistic take on how congress would react to a crime against nature.
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:The idea that robot cops would be banned in the usa seems naive. Seriously. They're using those weird robot dog things in New York as we speak.
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BiggerBoat posted:Seriously. They're using those weird robot dog things in New York as we speak.
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Speaking of weird Martin Short movies, I loved Clifford as a kid. No, it's not about the dog. Martin (who is of course a full grown man) plays a 10-year-old. His old appearance/ size is not referenced. He just supposed to be a kid. It was so surreal.
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May 8, 2021 00:27
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MadDogMike posted:Probably use distaff and spindle like they did for generations before spinning wheels, I suspect. Though making all the women go back to that for 16 years seems a worse curse than the sleep bit. Maybe that's why she had to live in the woods. If I had to destroy a very expensive piece of equipment and go back to a very tedious, lower material output equipment I would be pretty cantankerous. The girl lives in a castle, how is she going to get to my spindle in the ye olde badlands?
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Eclipse12 posted:Speaking of weird Martin Short movies, I loved Clifford as a kid. No, it's not about the dog. Martin (who is of course a full grown man) plays a 10-year-old. His old appearance/ size is not referenced. He just supposed to be a kid. It was so surreal. Martin Short is pretty good about just off the shelf ridiculous portrayals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwRg5PiovHQ
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Eclipse12 posted:Speaking of weird Martin Short movies, I loved Clifford as a kid. No, it's not about the dog. Martin (who is of course a full grown man) plays a 10-year-old. His old appearance/ size is not referenced. He just supposed to be a kid. It was so surreal. Oh gently caress I remember this movie. It was insanely bad. But Drop Dead Fred was great and I will not have that hosed with. I remember that movie was the first time I realized parents could actually be bad people.
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Ignite Memories posted:That is certainly one way to interpret robocop In the new movie, I'd rather have a robot that, during an intense firefight, immediately recognises and refuses to shoot on an unarmed black man that is breaking and entering into your corporate HQ over "regular American cop, but unstoppable". That Italian Guy has a new favorite as of 06:48 on May 8, 2021 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Seriously. They're using those weird robot dog things in New York as we speak. There's literally a Black Mirror episode about why this is a bad idea.
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So there are so so SO many IIMM in Game of Thrones, so I will pick one: after Jon Snow comes back from the dead, who didn't see that poo poo coming, he executes the men who killed him. Okay fair enough. But he also hangs the boy Olly who stabbed him. Olly, whose family and village was loving wiped out, and loving eaten, by wildlings. And Jon Snow never explained to said kid why those same wildlings are now allowed to live where the village was. But he's a loving kid, so Jon Snow killing him should have been a much larger WTF outcry than Dany burning a city that refused to submit.
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Cowslips Warren posted:So there are so so SO many IIMM in Game of Thrones, so I will pick one: after Jon Snow comes back from the dead, who didn't see that poo poo coming, he executes the men who killed him. Okay fair enough. But he also hangs the boy Olly who stabbed him. Olly, whose family and village was loving wiped out, and loving eaten, by wildlings. And Jon Snow never explained to said kid why those same wildlings are now allowed to live where the village was. But he's a loving kid, so Jon Snow killing him should have been a much larger WTF outcry than Dany burning a city that refused to submit. This is a series that starts with Jon Snow watching his adopted father execute a dude (by beheading) who ran away rather than 100% die for no reason and become a zombie.
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May 9, 2021 15:14
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I don't know man, I could see executing everyone who actively participated in my own assassination. Also of course the lord commander would execute everyone involved in assassinating his friend, the previous lord commander of the night's watch.
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Eclipse12 posted:Speaking of weird Martin Short movies, I loved Clifford as a kid. No, it's not about the dog. Martin (who is of course a full grown man) plays a 10-year-old. His old appearance/ size is not referenced. He just supposed to be a kid. It was so surreal. That segues nicely into one of my oldest irritating moments - adults acting as children, but they always act like the child is about 5. I'm talking about movies like Big or any other movie where someone gets their mind swapped. The child may have been a normal 12 year old before the swap, but as soon as the character starts getting played by an adult, they start acting like they're barely out of kindergarten.
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Imagined posted:This is a series that starts with Jon Snow watching his adopted father execute a dude (by beheading) who ran away rather than 100% die for no reason and become a zombie. That reminds me of another issue: Since most people in the North do not know or believe that John Snow rose from the dead, how do they justify following a Night's Watch deserter?
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I think it's the kind of situation where trying to overthrow him is likely to just get you killed, and deserting will get you killed, so it's better in terms of "not dying" to just go with the flow.
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SimonChris posted:That reminds me of another issue: Since most people in the North do not know or believe that John Snow rose from the dead, how do they justify following a Night's Watch deserter? Here's another one: Why does Davos, who hates and fears Melisdandre's evil magic suggest that she use her evil magic to raise the dead, something Davos has no indication is even possible?
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Here's another one: Why does Davos, who hates and fears Melisdandre's evil magic suggest that she use her evil magic to raise the dead, something Davos has no indication is even possible? I always interpreted that as a combination of him being desperate and feeling like “You’ve got all this strange power, do something “good” with it”
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If you start trying to list all the problems with Game of Thrones you will be here forever
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Here's another one: Why does Davos, who hates and fears Melisdandre's evil magic suggest that she use her evil magic to raise the dead, something Davos has no indication is even possible?
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What are the most unnecessary retcons? Where they rewrite previous events to wedge in a new story that could easily have worked without it. I remember a Saw movie where they spend half the run-time retconning a new character into having a role in all the previous movies. It's even worse when they retcon a new character into having strong ties to previous stories, only to promptly to dispose of them by the end of the same installment.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:What are the most unnecessary retcons? Where they rewrite previous events to wedge in a new story that could easily have worked without it. Pretty much all of Once Upon A Time. Flashbacks in general are useful, but there is a reason we like linear storytelling. Anyone else watch the new version of The Stand and realize part of the charm of the first one is the loving fact not everything is in flashbacks, and yes we see America end in a matter of days/weeks at once?
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Just finished watching Jupiter's Legacy. I liked it enough but the whole season felt like a big prologue to S2. We got all the cast introduced, but the stuff in the past had an obvious arc and end point and not much really happens in the present. I didn't dislike what was there, it's just that the very few plot developments were super telegraphed; and after something like Watchmen, I feel like they could have had all the content condensed in 4 episodes, with the real story happening in the second half of the season instead of an 8h long intro.
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This isn't so much a retcon, but I'm not sure what else to call it. In the first Lethal Weapon, Figgs is reckless and suicidal because his wife died in a car wreck. Just a freak accident, no explanation, and that's what makes it even more difficult to deal with for him, it's not like he can go find the guys that did it. But then in the second one, these brand new villains from South Africa are actually the ones that cut the brake lines on his wife's car years earlier because...? It's just so unnecessary. They were already apartheid-era smugglers and had killed an entire police force, was the extra connection and justification really that necessary? I just hate that kind of "everything is actually connected" bullshit, especially when it's after the fact.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:This isn't so much a retcon, but I'm not sure what else to call it. In the first Lethal Weapon, Figgs is reckless and suicidal because his wife died in a car wreck. Just a freak accident, no explanation, and that's what makes it even more difficult to deal with for him, it's not like he can go find the guys that did it. But then in the second one, these brand new villains from South Africa are actually the ones that cut the brake lines on his wife's car years earlier because...? It's just so unnecessary. They were already apartheid-era smugglers and had killed an entire police force, was the extra connection and justification really that necessary? I just hate that kind of "everything is actually connected" bullshit, especially when it's after the fact. Now it's personel.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:This isn't so much a retcon, but I'm not sure what else to call it. In the first Lethal Weapon, Figgs
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Suppressing fffiiiiirrrreeeeeee!!!!!
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Barnyard: Why didn't the coyotes just eat Otis if they were just going to break their agreement anyway?
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Inspector Gesicht posted:I remember a Saw movie where they spend half the run-time retconning a new character into having a role in all the previous movies. It's even worse when they retcon a new character into having strong ties to previous stories, only to promptly to dispose of them by the end of the same installment. Just the once? They do it like 4 times. My IIMM for Saw is that they set up a bunch of cool thriller plots (rival heirs to jigsaw! copycats! increasing public awareness of jigsaw! a guy with a lucrative book deal!) that could actually be really fun and a way to explore our relationship with serial killers. But then it gets scrapped and we just throw someone in a blender, but then thats actually a flashback to ten years before because blablablalblalba
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Just the once? They do it like 4 times. Yeah Saw is supposed to be different in that Jigsaw always gives an out where if they follow the rules and are willing to go the distance they can survive. Then in like half the movies it turns out that the fake Jigsaw has rigged the games so the victims can't win and they die anyway.
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muscles like this! posted:Yeah Saw is supposed to be different in that Jigsaw always gives an out where if they follow the rules and are willing to go the distance they can survive. Then in like half the movies it turns out that the fake Jigsaw has rigged the games so the victims can't win and they die anyway. I'm not opposed to gore per se but straight up torture porn like that sucks I actually think Cube might be my favorite of that genre
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I think the worst thing a show can do late into its run is have the viewer go 'Who the gently caress are these guys?' What are unsucessful examples of a show trying to remain ongoing despite the departure of too many core-cast members? Maybe they keep the show going under the same banner despite the retool, or they try pitching it as an after-show or a spinoff. The result is the same.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:I think the worst thing a show can do late into its run is have the viewer go 'Who the gently caress are these guys?' The unsuccessful ones are plentiful and pretty much the general rule. Easy to cite. Far harder to list are the few successful ones I can think of. Cheers and MASH come to mind as pulling it off pretty well. All in the Family suffered from cast members leaving but also created a lot of good spin offs.
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Only thing I can think of off the top of my head is Stargate SG-1. It's hard to say two full seasons and a feature length movie is unsuccessful, but it definitely was a big dropoff once they imported the Farscape crew (although I do really like Farscape), especially without Hammond of Texas and eliminating the Goa'uld as the main enemy. The idea of the Ori was cool at first but they never really had a cool memorable character like Baal or Sokar etc.
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Scottish police procedural Taggart went on for 15 years after the actor playing the titular character drank himself to death in 1995. They handled this by simply having Taggart die of screen and carrying on with the supporting cast. FreudianSlippers has a new favorite as of 02:26 on May 12, 2021 |
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