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ChickenOfTomorrow posted:You posted in the other thread about this dude who was obsessed with you, right? You should retell that story, it was p unnerving. It's rare that they catch them before they escalate to going after people. I would be interested in this story too.
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a kitten posted:Inspired by this thread, or it's previous incarnation I decided to watch the documentary series Paradise Lost about the murder of three little boys at Robin Hood Hills and the trial, imprisonment and eventual freeing of the West Memphis Three. As far as I can remember, the only evidence used to charge the West Memphis Three was circumstantial. The killer got away, but there was never really a chance any of them did it. Am I forgetting anything? I don't know that the first two documentaries cover everything that was ultimately revealed.
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May 19, 2014 14:08
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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:We talked about cordyceps and nobody mentioned Instruction for a Help? Some shameful goons I've never seen this before, but it's so clever that I'm really sad that I can't read anything about its reception since archives went down. Did everyone like it? I love how open-ended it is about which side was in the right.
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Hardwood Floor posted:Does anyone know the wiki article about human experimentation done without consent and funded by Proctor and Gamble? It was either that or Johnson and Johnson. Googling doesn't bring anything up for me for some reason. What details can you remember? Most human experimentation in the US was done by the CIA or the army, or by independent scholars funded by the military.
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FrozenVent posted:Isn't most of it done by pharmaceutical company, and a completely routine thing? I meant unethical, dangerous human experimentation without consent and/or knowledge. Which I guess was what I thought he was talking about as well.
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May 21, 2014 02:12
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There was an experiment run by MIT and paid for by Quaker Oats where they fed irradiated cereal to kids with mental disabilities to see how people digest cereal. They didn't say anything to the kids or pay them, telling them that they were in a "special science club." I guess their compensation was going to Red Sox games: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_E._Fernald_State_School#Nuclear_medicine_research_in_children There are probably way more stories like that out there. I had thought that the Army paid for this study.
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May 21, 2014 02:26
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SylvainMustach posted:One I haven't seen posted here, or in the previous thread, is the Order of the Solar Temple. If you know about masonic stuff, could you tell if any of the details about Alan Robicheaux, a guy who has come up in this thread before? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbKrY0HXOz0 He was a guy in his early 70s who disappeared without a trace, but then in 1991 his body was discovered in a secret vault he built under the porch. He shot himself while looking into a mirror and had arranged mirrors and porcelain figurines around himself before he did it. I've always wondered about this case because of the ritual details. Are any of them masonic (if you can say without getting into trouble), or was he just a dude headed toward dementia? More details here: http://files.usgwarchives.net/la/orleans/newspapers/00000531.txt
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May 22, 2014 02:41
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Ugly In The Morning posted:And one of those subjects was the Unabomber, who was a bit of a weirdo at the time, but within normal levels of weird for "brilliant mathematician". He was actually the only one who didn't have any secrets or sexual fantasies he was ashamed of. Part of the experiment involved the students writing out everything that humiliated them or made them feel ashamed, and he just wrote about how he was proud to be at Harvard and loved his parents and loved America. His codename for the study was "Lawful" because he was such a square. Not so much after, though.
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May 22, 2014 04:23
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Scientology fun facts: they are only classified as a religion because they harassed the IRS with endless frivolous lawsuits. Also, Leo Ryan--the senator killed by the People's Temple for taking people with him--was going to go after Scientology after he got back from Guyana. It was the very next thing on his agenda.
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May 29, 2014 19:48
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Also there was a cult awareness group founded because of Jonestown called the Cult Awareness Network that Scientology sued into oblivion because they listed it as a cult. Scientology bought out their trademarks during bankruptcy proceedings and continued to run it as a backdoor recruiting agency. They are scary as gently caress, which is what you'd expect from an organization that actively recruits paranoid crazy people.
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May 29, 2014 19:53
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They recruit paranoid crazy people. This cannot be overstated. Their whole mythology is that mental health professionals are part of an alien conspiracy to suppress humanity's true powers. Prescribed drugs rob you of your superpowers, as does talk therapy. They've cultivated a fanatically loyal army of lunatics.
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May 30, 2014 23:36
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a kitten posted:That might actually be more terrible than boxbot. When he was done with his despair monkeys he gave them to a zoo where they just sat there and screamed all day. The zoo put them on their own island away from all the animals frightened by their constant agony.
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Jun 8, 2014 00:41
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Supreme Allah posted:An 8 foot white would be like a snack to a couple of Orca. Orcas and dolphins like to play and carry out complex tasks that involve teamwork, some of it whimsical and some of it horrific, and they don't really seem to care either way. It's apparently common for them to kill lone sharks and leave the body. There are stories of dolphins and orcas protecting rafts and swimmers from sharks or carrying sailors back to their boats or the shore when they've gone overboard. Stories like this make me wonder if there are an equal number of incidents with sailors gone overboard and eaten as a snack, or rafts deliberately sunk in a spirit of fun and cooperation by one of the few species on this planet that approach sapience. Because of course in those cases, there would be nobody left to tell the story.
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Jun 9, 2014 02:12
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benito posted:I've always been creeped out by drugs like Midazolam. It and a few other drugs induce anterograde amnesia. Let's say you're in a car accident. Your leg is horribly broken and the medic can't anesthetize you. He can give you one of these drugs, set the bone causing tremendous pain, and in ten minutes you'll have forgotten everything. That might be a good thing, but if you were a drunk driver who killed a kid in your wreck, would it help you reform to erase that moment from your life? It's sometimes used as a sedative too, so who knows how many malpractice suits have been averted simply because the memory vanishes. Still, if the anesthetist hosed up and I woke up in the middle of surgery, I'd sure want to forget that. The other way to put it is: who knows how many life-destroying traumas have been erased?
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Jun 10, 2014 04:01
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spleen merchant posted:I might sound a bit thick here but is the purpose of Midazolam to induce amnesia or is this just a side effect of its anesthetic function? and if so, whats the purpose of inducing amnesia?? So if you wake up while they're cutting into your chest or your eye, you don't go insane from enduring minutes or hours of unspeakable pain, as some anesthetics have been known to wear off unexpectedly while the paralytics that keep your unconscious body from jerking around do not.
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Jun 10, 2014 16:10
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JD-Smith posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantosmia I knew someone who had this. She smelled burning and was scared it might be a brain tumor. She also had really bad migraines.
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Sure we do. It's one of those weird fruits in the part of the supermarket with all those weird fruits nobody ever buys.
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Jul 17, 2014 12:13
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 Caption: "It was all smiles from the medical team after the mammoth operation" Except for the obviously miserable kid, who endured hours of having teeth chiseled from his skull with only local anesthetic
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Jul 23, 2014 22:11
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Tons of wealthy suburban people have distant, cold parents. It's only really a problem if you're compelled to kill and maim, really. If he were just a regular guy, he'd just hate them and call at Christmas from the giant house he bought with his wildly successful partner who he met in college while getting a lucrative degree in chemical engineering. The odds just didn't favor the parents in this case. See also the kids who did the Columbine shooting, whose parents fit the same profile.
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Jul 29, 2014 13:45
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The thing that freaks me our is that he was convicted on the evidence heard on a recording he made of the killing. He was planning on reliving it the same way that serial killers do. He clearly saw his excuse to get away with murder and took it.
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Jul 31, 2014 14:09
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He would have been acquitted if he hadn't set up a tape recorder and turned it on prior to luring the first burglar into the basement. Maybe even if he hadn't taunted a mortally wounded teenage girl before dragging her onto a tarp and killing her.
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Jul 31, 2014 14:32
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Stare-Out posted:It's unfortunate but hardly uncommon, though. Who can name a victim of any school shooting that happened in the past 15 years? Everyone remembers Adam Lanza, though. And Eric and Dylan. Mohammed Atta rings a bell. Pretty much everyone is hard pressed to name someone killed on September 11th. It's just how it is, and it is hosed up. Doesn't help that the media blasts the names of these people at us whenever something like it happens and these monsters, misunderstood or hosed up or not, are remembered and the victims are just a nameless bunch of people killed by them to most of us. There's no difference between fame and infamy anymore. Most of them will drop away in time, though. You probably don't remember 90% of the names on wiki's list of mass shooters. I deliberately try to avoid the names of people like that because they do it to be famous, but I recognize 12 out of 1300, and only 2 from before 1990: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers Serial killers are underrepresented, though. I know 14: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_serial_killers_by_number_of_victims Infamy really only speaks to media sensationalism. Nobody remembers these people for that long, really. And even a really famous one from 100 years ago isn't much now. I only know about HH Holmes because of this thread, and he did way more hosed up poo poo than that virgin loser college kid from last month.
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willus posted:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_of_1315%E2%80%9317 a little bit of rain never hurt anyone, right? Things like this are so scary to me because as we learn more and more about variations in climate, it seems like even a small change of a few years can really ruin human civilization. The end of the classical period and collapse of Rome tracks with a drop in temperature and decline in food production too. Human civilization is incredibly fragile compared to the poo poo that happens regularly on Earth. Remember that we're in a warm period between ice ages too, one that will probably end in a few thousand years. Everything from writing and agriculture on up has happened because we're in a warm period.
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Aug 1, 2014 17:07
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We have already proven to be an extinction event and therefore probably an evolutionary dead end. That might be why we've never seen any aliens: intelligence is an ecological disaster like a meteor strike or really bad ice age.
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Why wouldn't he just try to kill it? I know that a barber-surgeon amputation isn't probably a very attractive option, but if you think there is a loving evil devil on your head whispering to you the terrible secrets of the universe what do you really have to lose by sleeping on your back one night and smothering the fucker? Actually, I don't think there's any way you could share your head with another face without it having to be connected to your lungs and having a big lump of brain for it to think its malign thoughts, or at least breathe.
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benito posted:As recently as 40,000 years ago you had Neanderthals, Denisovans, and Homo floresiensis (the "hobbit" people) co-existing on earth with us modern humans. Homo erectus was still around 140,000 years ago. To me, the eeriest thing about studying the DNA of early humans is that Denisovians and some modern Africans have genes from at least one unknown human species that split from the others 700,000 years ago and encountered them again 50,000 years ago. The only evidence remaining of an entire species of ancient humans is a some genes we just learned how to see. That's nuts--sublime.
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:Here is a mummy I'd like to know more about : St. Bee's Man. He was a knight who was killed in the Crusades in 1368 named Anthony de Lucy, and his body was buried in a lead coffin that perfectly preserved his body to the point that when it was discovered in 1981, his skin was pink, his irises were visible, and he had liquid blood in his chest. Did somebody gently caress up the storage of the body? I'd think that the minute you found something like that you'd thrown the lid back on until you could transport the body someplace with a controlled environment. It seems like so much could be lost in letting the body dry out.
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DryGoods posted:
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Ague Proof posted:Yeah I don't think that would fit into the Prince-Albert/Hitler hypothesis. You could say it requires a leap to hop onto a story like that just because it jumps out at you.
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spinst posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Delano_Floyd That story's so eerie, that this guy was able to just run around free all that time without anybody getting any clue about what he really was. The only reason anyone even knows about his two previous crimes is that he documented them and kept all the photos together in a bundle he left inside a truck he stole in 1994. He had been a fugitive for 20 years when he kidnapped Michael, having run away after being paroled from federal prison in 1973 for robbing a bank, which he robbed after escaping a prison where he was serving 20 years for the rape and kidnapping of a baby. He disappeared in 1975 immediately after being bailed out of the local jail, where he was taken after attempting to kidnap a woman. He was first arrested for shooting cops who showed up while he was robbing a department store when he was 17: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?48515-Sharon-Marshall-2 It seems likely he might have committed some kind of crime between 1973 and 1975.
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bean_shadow posted:Speaking of radiation, how about Human Radiation Experiments by the United States? Hey now, those kids got pizza and free tickets to a ball game! More than fair compensation for the likely early and painful death from cancer.
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There were definitely instances where surrendering Germans were killed or where prisoners were later killed, especially those found running death camps. There may have been more massacring of civilians than reported also. Plus tons of rape and some civilian slave labor. No trophies made from bodies though: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes#World_War_II
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A schizophrenic violent criminal spent 30 years tooling across the country doing whatever he wanted and those cops let him go because he was the stepfather. I wonder if he ever killed other kids and just slipped away because he was using a false identity.
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Oct 5, 2014 23:32
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Didn't he get caught because a woman he went after escaped? I'd imagine most serial killers have the minds of teenagers.
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It does seem like somebody would notice if people started disappearing regularly from his small town of 6,000, and also that one of the people charged as accomplices would take police to at least one of the bodies for a reduced sentence or something.
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Literally Kermit posted:I ran across a youtube of the song "Snoopy vs. The Red Baron" which is a jaunty song and in the youtube's case, a loving pro-click if you want to see the worst slide show someone made to go with the music. If he thought a butcher killed for fun, what did a sportsman kill for? Either way, German's lucky he got killed before turning full serial killer.
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It is said that the very first pair of Aviator sunglasses manifested and landed on the bridge of the Baron's nose upon writing that line. [citation needed]
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It's because he talks about killing as art and something that gives him half an hour of satisfaction before he feels the need to do it again. He was safe doing supply stuff before he complained about needing to kill and somebody moved him into a plane. There wouldn't have been enough vagrants or prostitutes in Prussia to last him a month after the sort of killing he got used to doing every day.
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Harlow was a loving beast, easily as bad as the guy at Harvard who did brainwashing research on his students. I think a zoo in New York got his despair monkeys when he was done with them: he thought maybe a normal environment would help them. The zoo had to move them to a separate island habitat because they didn't do anything except sit and scream all day. Edit: the guy who did brainwashing research on his students was Henry Murray: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Murray He got mad cash from the CIA to find ways of softening resistance and making subjects "pliable," which he pursued by having his undergraduate students keep diaries where they listed everything the believed in and everything of which they were ashamed. Then he collected them and hired an attorney to meet with them individually and humiliate them in a locked room using what they wrote. Murray recorded the sessions and made the students watch the films of themselves weekly. Murray was himself something of a film buff: he would secretly record himself doing BDSM stuff to graduate students he pressured into having affairs with him. The sex films were found after he died and prove him to be a pretty nasty sexual sadist. Also, he's most famous for having made the first known psychological file on someone who would one day become very famous. One of his humiliation students was a bright 16-year-old math student named Theodore Kaczynski, who at the time was a naive and self-conscious patriot who loved his mom and dad and wanted to make them proud. After taking psychology, his interests changed slightly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski
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If he joined here, he might start asking for advice about protecting his pumpkins.
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Metal Loaf posted:This page on mysterious disappearances rather unnerves me. The idea that sometimes, someone can just up and vanish, essentially walking out of history, never to be seen again and often leaving no closure behind them, is a deeply uncomfortable one, to say the least. There is of course the wiki page on the opposite phenomenon, which really bothers me in an existential dread sort of way not entirely explained by those creepy dead-eyed facial reconstruction images, though the worst by far are the ones where they have the subject casually covering part of his or her face because the body was too badly damaged. Somehow, the implication of what must have happened is so much worse to me than reading about it outright: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unidentified_murder_victims_in_the_United_States
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