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Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

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Back to the Lost Cosmonauts, I got pretty spooked a while back now after listening to this- (SFW, just creepy as all heck.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sgc1I9sjfc
Apparently it is a cosmonaut in her last moments before the ship ran out of oxygen and burnt up on re-entry. It was recorded by these guys

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judica-Cordiglia_brothers

To this day the Russians deny knowing anything about it and the spooky, scared disembodied voice remains nameless.


ETA- Good Fortean Times article here ----> http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles/1302/lost_in_space.html

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Literally Kermit posted:

Number Stations

Have you heard of Webdriver Torso? It's got people all a flutter at the moment....random 15 second videos of red and blue shapes, and an obnoxious tone. Over 77,000 of them, and no one really seems to know their purpose.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icyJYzhVcCY


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsLiV4WJfkTEHH0b9PmRklw

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Loving the bog bodies....back to missing people for a second, the whole wiki page is a great read...

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_disappeared_mysteriously

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Talking of claustrophobia and caves, check this video of a guy getting stuck. It's not graphic or anything but gives you an idea of how pant-shittingly terrifying getting stuck in a cave is.

Getting Stuck in 'The Tube' - Lost Johns Cave: http://youtu.be/hS_aMAlAaeU

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http://metro.co.uk/2015/01/09/angry-ghost-chases-after-car-in-lancashire-5015310/

The Blackburn Ghost! Kind of amusingly creepy. I think I would have ran it over.

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HUMAN FISH posted:

Motel of the Mysteries is pretty funny. It depicts an archaeologist from 4022 studying a normal motel room (and other things).

"A statue of the deity WATT, who represented eternal companionship and englightenment, stood faithfully next to the platform."

"Everything in the Outer Chamber faced the Great Altar (No. 1), including the body of the deceased, which still lay on top of the Ceremonial Platform (No. 5). In its hand was the Sacred Communicator (No. 3)"
(TV, bed, remote control)

Here is a section!
http://teachers2.wcs.edu/high/shs/sharonb3/By%20the%20Waters%20of%20Babylon/Motel-of-the-Mysteries-Macaulay.pdf

I had a copy of it that I gave to my sister as a present, I kind of wish I had kept it for myself.

David McCauley is an awesome illustrator - I own a book called 'Unbuilding' which is a fictional account of a rich Arab prince who buys the Empire State Building and has it dismantled. It is all drawn with Rotring pens and is a little bit mind-blowing (especially for me who is a budding illustrator with a fondness for Rotrings.)

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Ozz81 posted:

AKA "stereotyping" - which in itself is ridiculous and leads people to do the exact opposite of what they *should* do. Case in point, any time the media has brought up pedophiles or sexual predators, they always have some actor that looks like a creepy, grizzled weirdo (as if you could tell a pedo from any regular person walking the street). Then another news story comes along and it's the guy that lived next door and was super friendly, didn't have a criminal record, and was as generic looks-wise as anyone could get. Same goes for other crimes too, most times it's the person someone least expects, and it's because we've effectively been brainwashed to believe that criminals fit a certain mold and can be pointed out on looks alone.

Check this out, a public service film from the sixties which basically states homo=paedo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijbovskICjk

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C.M. Kruger posted:

Saudi airliner catches on fire mid-flight, the crew and passengers asphyxiate before they can get the doors open after landing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudia_Flight_163

:stare:

quote:

Saudi officials subsequently found two butanestoves in the burned-out remains of the airliner, with a used fire extinguisher near one of them. Previously, some airlines used to allow passengers to use butane stoves on board. However, current aviation regulations forbid them.

One early speculation about the cause of the crash, claimed the fire originated in the passenger cabin, after a passenger used his own butane stove to heat water for making tea

:stare:

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Here's a thing-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_and_Sabina_Eriksson

quote:

Ursula and Sabina Eriksson are Swedish twin sisters (born 1967) who came to national attention in the United Kingdom in May 2008 after an apparent episode of folie à deux (or "shared psychosis"), a rare psychiatric disorder in which delusional beliefs are transmitted from one individual to another, which resulted in a series of bizarre incidents on the M6 motorway and the subsequent murder of Glenn Hollinshead of Fenton, Staffordshire. There was no evidence that drugs or alcohol were involved in the incidents on the M6 or the death of Hollinshead.[1][2][3]

A lot of this was filmed by a TV crew who were on scene, there was a documentary about it too....the footage of her running into the motorway and into the path of an articulted lorry is on Youtube, around the 1:20 mark. It's not particularly graphic but it's still pretty disturbing to see.
(edited out coz it is the same video as the one I posted below)


Here is the doc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTpFWiEx3eo

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quote:

His high scores are unknown

The biggest tragedy.

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Thanks to whoever linked the Thinking Sideways podcasts (about the two Dutch girls in the jungle), I have been going through the archives and it's an absolute trove of strange and creepy stories.

http://thinkingsidewayspodcast.com/

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Alain Perdrix posted:

I was confused earlier, because I thought TS was one of the conspiracy theory podcasts – if TS is into straight-up debunking the dumber theories and coming out with the likely scenarios, I'm gonna love the hell out of it.

Yeah it is more like that. They go through the more (you might say) mundane scenarios and it is all done with pretty clear eyes. That doesn't stop them taking the piss out of aliens and chupacabras theories.

They have covered some great topics I had never heard before too, like the immortal Count of St.Germain

http://thinkingsidewayspodcast.com/the-count-st-germain/

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Chicken Butt posted:

I did my own investigation and discovered this horrifying figurine in the walls.






This was in the bathroom wall.

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UnkleBoB posted:

Thanks for this. Read it over my workday. I was familiar with the case, but it is nice to have an in depth article. I drive past that boat ramp twice a day going to and from work.

I was absolutely glued to it. It's really rare for me to actually gasp out loud and laugh out loud and so on when reading stuff, but this did. It's haunted me all day.

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queserasera posted:

This book never fails to creep me out every time I read it. Urban legends in graphic novel form!



I have that! And a few of the others, they're a brilliant series of books based around spooky topics, all done in comic form by different artists. The Big Book of Freaks is excellent, I lent my copy to someone though and never got it back :(

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funmanguy posted:

Parents bought this for me my 10th birthday. I read this when I was 10, because they would try anything to get me excited about reading.

Your parents sound a bit like mine. "Eh, she likes comics and spooky things" And that's how I ended up with a tape of Christopher Lee reading Edgar Allen Poe stories for my 8th birthday.




This is my collection of Big Books. The Urban Legend and Unexplained ones are probably my favourites, but they are all very entertaining. Got to get my Freaks book back though! That is the best.

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one for Facebook, I feel.

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In November 1941, at George Washington University Hospital, a wide-awake Rosemary followed a doctor’s instructions to recite songs and stories as he drilled two holes in her head and cut nerve endings in her brain until she became incoherent, then silent

This bit gets me every time. Poor woman :(

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Kaizoku posted:

I'm having trouble finding a source from the time, but all of those plastinated body exhibits that were the rage a few years ago were being looked into as probably being bodies of falun dafa prisoners.

There was the 'Bodies' exhibition in NYC in 2009 that had a sign up RIGHT AT THE END saying that the bodies used were of Chinese prisoners. I was wandering round thinking it weird that when you remove the skin from a body, we all look Chinese.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodies:_The_Exhibition

This exhibition was not affiliated with Gunter Von Hagens, who I think has a pretty big waiting list of volunteers.

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Sarcopenia posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Hazzard

Ironically named, non-doctor woman starves wealthy patients to death. Poetic justic ensues.

Those diary entries are worse when you know the writer died at her hand :stare:

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benito posted:

At the intersection of football hooligans and newspapers comes the Millwall brick: an improvised weapon made out of newspaper devised after stadium police started confiscating anything that could possibly be a weapon in the 1960s. I think I first learned about it in Bill Buford's Among the Thugs, recommended to me by an anthropology professor.

Video tutorial

That Wiki mentions Polo Mints being used as a weapon.





WTF.

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Enos Shenk posted:

I've been in a crowd crush before, and that poo poo is terrifying. We were in Boston once on vacation for the 4th of July and went down to see the fireworks, I went for a walk and took a wrong turn and ended up right in front of the bandshell. At one point I was so crushed in my feet were off the ground and I could barely breathe.

That's one of those things that just scares the hell out of me now.

There was an article a few years ago, I think it would have been 2009, the twentieth anniversary, which had survivor accounts. They were absolutely harrowing, and I remember reading it on the train and nearly crying. I can't imagine anything worse than what those people went through.

http://hillsborough.independent.gov.uk/repository/docs/LCS000001110001.pdf

Read it and weep. Awful.

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Aesop Poprock posted:

I don't know, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire is pretty traumatic as well considering it's a combination of a crush and being horribly burned to death with no hope of escape. I saw the video someone had taken once and seeing a wall of human beings stuck in the doorway screaming before they're consumed by flames was one of the worst things I've ever seen on the internet

Oh drat, yeah. My mind had wiped this one.

Regarding that Bradford fire (I have never heard about this, I was 5 at the time so I guess my parents protected me from that.)

quote:

Eric Bennet (Australian tourist) had put a ciggarette down to stamp it out and saw it catch fire on rubbish beneath the stand, he had tried to put it out with coffee but was unsuccessful.
The stand itself was fairly complicated to get out off as they wanted to to keep standing and seated supporters separate and involved a 6foot pull up on wall & 5foot drop. Most of the 56 who perished were found at back of the terrace trying to get out a locked entrance/exit gate.

Just get people to watch the man walking around engulfed in flames next time someone moans that they can't smoke at events anymore. That commentator did a remarkable job too, pretty impressive to keep calm with that going on around, while you can feel the heat of the fire on your face.

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Zero One posted:

For about 2 years I had the Hillsborough 30 for 30 on my DVR. I watched part of it but could never bring myself to finish it.

I just finished it a few moments ago, I started watching it yesterday afternoon but I kept having to turn it off and listen to some music or something because yeah, it's harrowing as gently caress. I thought it would get 'easier' once it got past the breakdown of the day, but the aftermath and obfuscation of truth by the media and police was just as shocking. I was 9 when Hillsborough happened so I was aware of it and of course the aftermath, but that documentary showed just why the people of Liverpool hate the Sun newspaper and the police so much. Christ. It's a total pro-watch, but I can't say I'd recommend it in one whole go. My soul couldn't take it.

Edit- I see David Duckenfield copped for it in the end

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31928476

quote:

The Hillsborough police match commander has agreed his failure to close a tunnel "was the direct cause of the deaths of 96 people".
David Duckenfield also accepted he "froze" during the afternoon of the 1989 football disaster.
Mr Duckenfield was giving evidence for a sixth day at the new Hillsborough inquests in Warrington, Cheshire.
He was being questioned by Paul Greaney QC on behalf of the Police Federation of England and Wales.
Mr Duckenfield, now 70, had earlier denied claims he "bottled it" and "panicked" as the disaster unfolded.
'Under pressure'
The jury was told the former chief superintendent had at least three minutes to "consider the consequences" of opening an exit gate at the stadium, as a crowd of fans built up outside.
Mr Greaney suggested a child of "average intelligence" could have realised what would happen when the gate, which allowed up to 2,000 fans to enter, was opened.
But Mr Duckenfield said he did "not think of it on the day" because of the pressure he was under.
Hillsborough police match commander David Duckenfield
Image caption
An artist's impression of Mr Duckenfield giving evidence at the new inquests into the disaster
Hillsborough disaster
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Ninety-six Liverpool fans died in the 1989 disaster at Hillsborough stadium in Sheffield
He had "no idea" Liverpool fans would head through the gate for a tunnel which led to the already-packed terraces, he told the jury.
When asked by Mr Greaney if his failure to take steps to close the tunnel entrance was the direct cause of the deaths of 96 people, Mr Duckenfield replied "yes sir".
Ninety-six Liverpool fans died after crushing at the FA Cup semi final match between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest held at Hillsborough.
Mr Greaney asked Mr Duckenfield if he had been incompetent in his role on the day of the disaster.
'Simply froze'
The retired officer answered: "I think it is a view some would agree with sir."
Mr Greaney accused Mr Duckenfield of "concealing" his full knowledge of the geography of the ground from the jury, which he denied.
When asked by the barrister if he "simply froze", Mr Duckenfield said he thought it would be "fair to say that we were all in a state of shock."
It was the match commander's job to "get past any feelings of shock", Mr Greaney said.
"Yes, sir, but I am human," Mr Duckenfield replied.
Court sketch of John Beggs QC
Image caption
John Beggs QC, representing Mr Duckenfield, asked him if he understood the impact of his delayed apology
Earlier in the inquests, he admitted he had lied about fans forcing an exit gate open to enter the ground.
He issued a long apology to the families of the victims, who have been campaigning for 26 years to establish more detail about what happened during the disaster.
John Beggs QC, representing Mr Duckenfield, said: "I think you understand, don't you, why the delay in providing a more gracious and more full apology has caused to many both offence and distress? You understand that?"
"I fully understand that sir," Mr Duckenfield said.
The jury heard how the former police officer struggled to sleep in the run-up to the 1989 Taylor Inquiry into the disaster, and at one stage was drinking "half tumblers of whisky" to "find the courage" to read statements.
The court heard he was medically retired from South Yorkshire Police on 10 November 1991, two years after being suspended from duty.
He was certified by a force doctor as "unfit to undertake the duties of a police constable" and was diagnosed with "severe depression and post-traumatic stress disorder".
Who were the 96 victims?
The 96 victims of the Hillsborough disaster
BBC News: Profiles of all those who died
Mr Duckenfield agreed he saw his diagnosis as a "sign of weakness" and tried to "conceal" his conditions from his family and colleagues.
He said it was a "matter of pride" and that he was "very ashamed and embarrassed by it all".
The jury has also heard Mr Duckenfield was interviewed under criminal caution in March last year by officers from Operation Resolve, the ongoing police inquiry into the disaster.
Mr Beggs asked him whether it had "been easy for the last five and a half days to admit that your professional failings led to the deaths of 96 innocent men, women and children and injuries to many more".
"Has that been easy, Mr Duckenfield, for you?" he said.
"Sir, it's been the most difficult period of my life," Mr Duckenfield said.
The inquests are scheduled to continue on Wednesday.




It's funny (well not funny but you know what I mean) to think, had two officers not pranked a junior officer, none of this would probably have ever happened.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/jul/07/most-experienced-police-commander-prank-transfer-hillsborough-disaster

quote:

The South Yorkshire police chief superintendent who had experience of commanding football matches at Hillsborough was transferred 19 days before the 1989 FA Cup semi-final, shortly after officers in his division played a brutal "prank" on a probationary constable involving a gun.

The inquest into how 96 Liverpool supporters died at that 1989 match was told that in Ch Supt Brian Mole's F division, four officers had to resign and seven were disciplined after the prank, which occured in October 1988, came to light.

Patrick Roche, a barrister representing 75 families who lost loved ones in the disaster, asking a former South Yorkshire police chief inspector, David Beal, about the prank, said: "A number of police officers, colleagues of that unfortunate probationary constable, decided to subject him to a fake robbery. They got hold of him, they blindfolded him, handcuffed him and led him to believe he was being threatened with a gun. They even pulled down his trousers and photographed him."

Beal, who was serving in Mole's division based at Sheffield's Hammerton Road police station, said he could recollect that incident. Roche said there was no suggestion that Mole himself was involved in the prank in any way, but asked: "Is it the case that Ch Supt Mole was transferred because there was unhappiness in the way the aftermath of that matter had been handled?" Beal replied: "That is not my knowledge of it. I understand he was transferred for career development reasons."

Mole, who at the time commanded every football match at Sheffield Wednesday's Hillsborough ground, including the 1987 and 1988 FA Cup semi-finals, was replaced on 27 March 1989, by Ch Supt David Duckenfield. The inquest jury, of seven women and four men, has heard that Duckenfield had never commanded a match at Hillsborough before. Duckenfield's own QC, John Beggs, has said Duckenfield received "very little, if any, training" before taking over as match commander so soon before the 54,000 sell-out semi-final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989.

Beal, who wrote the operational plan for the 1989 match, recalled the hazing incident and the officers being disciplined, but said he did not believe that was why Mole was replaced. He said he thought Mole had been transferred to Barnsley, after Hillsborough was selected as the venue for the match, and after the first match planning meeting on 22 March 1989, to further his career.

"Was it somewhat surprising that he was transferred with effect from March 27, between the selection of the venue and the match itself?" Roche asked.

"It was surprising to me, yes," said Beal, who described the South Yorkshire police then as "regimented".

"Because Ch Supt Mole was a highly experienced officer, who presided over the two previous semi-finals?"

"Absolutely, yes," Beal replied.

There was, Beal agreed, nothing to prevent Mole being retained as the match commander for the 15 April match despite his transfer to Barnsley, but that did not happen, and Duckenfield took over. Roche said that the minutes of the first police meeting, on 22 March 1989, to plan their operation for the semi-final, had gone missing. Beal said he believed that Duckenfield had been present, confirming that it was an "extremely important" meeting, the start of the planning process.

"So you would expect there to be minutes, to record who was present at that meeting?" Roche asked.

"Yes," Beal replied.

"Unfortunately we don't have minutes of that meeting. I don't suppose you have any idea where they might have gone?"

"No," he said.

Beal was also asked about another South Yorkshire police chief inspector, Frank Brayford. Roche said Brayford would have been a candidate to be a senior officer at the semi-final, but was transferred, and the inquest may hear evidence that this was because Duckenfield did not like him. Beal replied of Brayford: "No, he was transferred because of his behaviour, because of impropriety."

The inquest continues.



EDIT- By the way, thanks to whoever mentioned those 30 for 30 docs, despite not really having that much of an interest in sports, there are some really interesting looking documentaries in there. I'm just starting the OJ one.

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theflyingorc posted:



Here's an article on it and other crushes: http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/02/07/crush-point
(a bit :nms: for some, it starts with a picture from Hillsborough)



Jesus yeah, pretty sure at least two of the people in that picture are dead.

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This thread has made me much more aware of my surroundings at gigs and crowded places now. I always check for the nearest exits and keep an eye out for smoke, and also stay on the periphery of any crowds and bail if it gets too tight. Thanks thread, for teaching me about personal safety in the most disturbing way possible!

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Is this really happening. The Holocaust trump card. We might as well close the thread then because nothing can beat the Holocaust!

Please can we stop arguing over this because I really like this thread and when we say 'I can't imagine anything worse than being crushed to death by other people' we are saying it speculatively and of course there are many many other equally horrible ways to die like being trapped on a ghost plane or gassed or operated on while you're still alive or burnt to death or bisected by a train or drowned by mud in a suit of armour or starved or lost in a wilderness etc etc Jesus H Christ. Oh yeah, crucified too.

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benito posted:

I wonder if it has anything to do with this upcoming event, which I think is one of the dumbest ideas ever conceived.
:stare:
"An armed society is a polite society,” he continued. “We love freedom and we’re trying to make more freedom.”
:stare:

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pookel posted:

OK can we go back to gun chat now, tia

Content: this site will tell you who in history was executed on any given day of the year. Defaults to today, but you can look up your birthday for kicks: http://www.executedtoday.com/

And an even less tortuous one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Mancha_Negra

:stare: Jezz, that site has some doozies :stare:

quote:

December 11th, 2010 Headsman
Nineteen-year-old shoe-shiner Hosni Ramadan Mahmoud Ahmed and his friend Ramadan Abu Al-Magd Azab were hanged in Qena, Egypt on this date in 2006 for murdering Ahmed’s two-year-old stepdaughter.
“Apparently infuriated that the crying baby was disrupting their viewing of a football match on television,” read the crime blotter. “Ahmed smashed the two year old’s head against a wall and electrocuted her.
“The two men then dumped her body in a nearby school.”

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Is that a serious real book? Because it sounds like a spoof, I mean come on!

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pookel posted:

I know a guy who used to be a small-town reporter - small enough that he was also a photographer. He's a kind, sensitive guy. Always concerned about the right thing to do and concerned about the welfare of the people in the news stories he writes. He told me about a car wreck he covered as a reporter. The car was full of teenagers driving recklessly at night, and they'd gone off the road and rammed into something - I can't remember what, maybe a building? - at high speeds while one kid had her head stuck out a window. The results were gruesome, as you might imagine. He was taking a million pictures, as you're taught to do, getting up close, trying different angles, zooming in on key focal points of the scene, when he glanced up and noticed the parents of the girl whose head had been crushed standing there glaring at him. He quit taking pictures and made a point of not using any of the graphic ones he'd taken.

My point is, sometimes even really nice people can get tunnel vision when they're doing a job, especially when they're used to seeing a lot of disturbing things. It's easy to forget when you're immersed in breaking news that you're wading into the middle of other people's personal tragedies.

Go and watch Nightcrawler also, This guy sounds a bit like the character at the very start.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8kYDQan8bw

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There's a really good documentary I saw on Netflix about the National Enquirer, 'Enquiring Minds'. Some of the stories and pictures they had in that magazine in the early days (think 40s-50s) would not have looked out of place on Rotten.com. They even 'touched up' the gore, it was pretty eye opening.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4139412/

Trailer- with some potential :nms: :nws: gore from ye olde days
https://vimeo.com/111859845

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There was also Louis Wain (Victorian artist famous for his cat illustrations) and his descent into schizophrenia, although the fact that these pictures represent his mind's journey has been all but debunked now after the realisation that the doctor who ordered the pictures possibly had no idea of the true chronology.



http://mindhacks.com/2007/09/26/the-false-progression-of-louis-wain/

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The five pictures are by Victorian artist Louis Wain who painted cats through the whole of his life and continued through periods of intense psychosis.

Almost every article on Wain uses them to demonstrate the progression of schizophrenia but the evidence for them being painted in chronological order is actually quite weak.

The five pictures are from an original series of eight which were collected by Dr Walter Maclay who was interested in the effect of mental illness on art.

However, the pictures were undated and, as Rodney Dale notes in his biography of Wain (Louis Wain: The Man Who Painted Cats; ISBN 1854790986), “with no evidence of the order of their progression, Maclay arranged them in a sequence which clearly demonstrated, he thought, the progressive deterioration of the artist’s mental abilities.”

In fact, his later works are for the most part conventional cat pictures in his normal style, with the occasional ‘psychedelic’ example produced at the same time – where he experimented with what he called ‘wallpaper patterns’.

However, the increasing abstraction over time is likely to be a myth. Wain’s biography again:

Assembling what little factual knowledge we have on Dr Maclay’s paintings, there is clear no justification for regarding them as more than samples of Louis Wain’s art at different times. Wain experimented with patterns and cats, and even quite late in life was still producing conventional cat pictures, perhaps 10 years after his [supposedly] ‘later’ productions which are patterns rather than cats. All of which is to say no more than that the eight paintings were done at different times, which could be said of eight paintings by any artist!

I've seen a couple of the 'schizo' drawings at an exhibition. They were way smaller than I was expecting, and also on the backs of jotters and other bits of paper. I found this weirdly touching.

Hell, I think if you pieced some of my illustrations together from the last 5 years in the right order you could make it look like I was going nuts too.

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Just read a great article about this woman who got into recreating murder scenes which look like the most hosed up dollhouses possible. They were used to train detectives about evidence gathering in the mid Twentieth century.



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C onvinced by criminological theory that crimes could be solved by detailed analysis of visual and material evidence, and drawing on her experiences creating miniatures, Frances Glessner Lee constructed a series of crime scene dioramas, which she called The Nutshell Studies of Unexplained Death.


To create her miniature crime scenes, she often blended the details of several true stories, embellishing facts here and changing the details there. She researched her crimes using newspaper reports and interviews with policemen and morgue workers.

On a scale of one inch to one foot, she presented real-life suicides as accidental deaths, accidents as homicides and homicide, potentially, as suicides. She even used fictional deaths to help round out her arsenal.1

Material evidence at any given crime scene is overwhelming, but with the proper knowledge and techniques, investigators could be trained to identify and collect the evidence in a systematic fashion. She hoped her Nutshell Studies would help. The point was not to solve the crime in the model, but to observe and notice important details and potential evidence; facts that could affect the investigation.

The Case of the Hanging Farmer or The Barn, as it's called, is one of only six free-standing, 360 degree models.
She began construction on her first Nutshell in 1943. "The Case of the Hanging Farmer" took three months to assemble and was constructed from strips of weathered wood and old planks that had been removed from a one-hundred-year-old barn.2

Ralph Mosher, her full-time carpenter, built the cases, houses, apartments, doors, dressers, windows, floors and any wood work that was needed. Mrs. Lee managed the rest, including the dolls, which she often assembled from parts. She painted the faces herself, including the specific detail work to obtain the appropriate colors of decomposition.3

The detail in each model is astounding. The lights work, cabinets open to reveal actual linens, whisks whisk, and rolling pins roll. She famously knitted or sewed all the clothing each doll wears; a job so arduous, she could only knit several rows at a time in any given sitting. By hand, she painted, in painstaking detail, each label, sign, or calendar.


Wallpaper and art work was often carefully chosen to create a specific aesthetic environment for her little corpses.

"Many display a tawdry, middle-class decor, or show the marginal spaces society's disenfranchised might inhabit—seedy rooms, boarding houses—far from the surroundings of her own childhood. She disclosed the dark side of domesticity and its potentially delleterious effects: many victims were women led 'astray' from the cocoon-like security of the home—by men, misfortune, or their own unchecked desires."4
She and Ralph Moser constructed three models each year. Twenty are presumed to have been created, but only eighteen survive. Of these eighteen, eleven of the models depict female victims, all of whom died violently.

"On one hand, because the Nutshells depict the everyday isolation of women in the home and expose the violence there … they can be viewed as a precursor to the women's movement."

On the other, they can also be viewed as an interesting looking glass through which to view a rich woman's attitudes about gender stereotypes and American culture at the time in which she was building them. It is interesting to note that all the victims are Caucasian and the majority were depicted as living in depravity. Additionally, alcohol and/or drugs are prominent in many of the Nutshells.

Regardless of her intent, the Nutshells became a critical component to the Harvard Associates in Police Science (HAPS) seminars. Additionally, her work in training law enforcement left a mark on the field that can still be seen today.

http://www.deathindiorama.com/index.html

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

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Zipperelli. posted:

Netflix had a documentary on this woman, or at least the crime scene diorama thing. As I recall, it was pretty good... Can't remember the name of it though :(

Thanks for the heads up. It's on Youtube!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTMqLHJRQdU


VVV I wanna MAKE em! I bet you could sell those to a good price. VVV

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Nov 4, 2009

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Poor girl.

I found a video too, I haven't fully watched it but needless to say it is probably depressing and disturbing as gently caress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Oirc8xOwg

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Nov 4, 2009

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I was watching a 'Top 5 spooky otherworldly travellers' video on Youtube this morning and this story popped up.

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One of the most perplexing events of the 20th Century did not involve flying saucers, conspiracy theories, a criminal act, or even strange creature sightings. It took place on a seemingly normal day in one of the most tedious, mundane places one could imagine: Airport. Yet to this day, no one knows exactly what happened there, or why one average business traveler became the heart of an enigma largely forgotten by our modern world.


The year 1954 was hotter than normal in Tokyo, but at Haneda Airport it was business as usual. That is, of course, until one unknown date when a routine European inbound plane dropped off its passengers. As the crowd made its way through customs, a neatly-dressed middle-aged Caucasian man stepped up and told officials this was just a normal business trip or him, one of three so far this year to Japan. His primary language was French, yet he spoke Japanese and several other languages. In his wallet was a variety of currencies from various European countries, as if to verify his frequent flyer tendencies.

When they asked him for his country of origin, things became strange. He casually stated that he was from Taured, on the border between France and Spain. The officials told him that Taured didn’t exist, but he presented them with his passport—issued by the nonexistent country of Taured—which also showed visa stamps corroborating his previous business travels to Japan and other countries. Yet when they called the company he said he was having a meeting with, they had never heard of him or his company ever before that moment. The hotel he had reserved a room at had no reservation for such a person, and the bank listed on his checkbook appeared not to exist.


The bearded man scoffed; surely, this was some elaborate practical joke for his benefit. Customs officials showed him a world map and pointed to the tiny country of Andorra. Perhaps that was his real country of origin and somehow he was either mistaken or having his own little joke? The man became irate, saying that Andorra didn’t exist but it was right where Taured should be. His proud country had existed for a thousand years. Still in shock over his misplaced homeland, the mystery man was detained by customs and given a room at a nearby hotel for the night while officials tried to figure out what was going on.

The following morning, the mystery deepened. Taured’s one and only known resident completely vanished from his hotel room which had been guarded by immigration officials all night long. And to make matters worse, all of his personal documents—including his passport and drivers license issued by the mystery country—vanished from the airport’s security room. Police and airport officials searched in vain for the mysterious man. It was as if the whole encounter had never actually happened.

No documentation verifying this story has yet surfaced, but it was mentioned in several books, including The Directory of Possibilities (1981, p. 86) and Strange But True: Mysterious and Bizarre People (1999, p. 64). And given its puzzling ending, I doubt that any official would have written up a report concluding that the man and all his documented evidence simply vanished.

http://weekinweird.com/2014/05/20/man-without-country-mystery-man-taured/

I love poo poo like this, I wonder (if it is actually real at all) what it was all about. And what that passport looked like.

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Nov 4, 2009

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Someone I know messaged me on FB saying I was in this video. I am. Number 8! That picture keeps popping up all over the internet and it's hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BXyURZe0fE

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fun hater posted:

i thought that meant you were the weird little goblin thing and i was about to demand a lot of answers from you
neat vid though

MAYBE I AM

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Nov 4, 2009

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RNG posted:

Seems like the right thread for some Stephen King short stories. I have no idea what this site is, but google turned it up.

Survivor Type
The Jaunt
The End of the Whole Mess

'The Raft' always freaked me out as well as 'Survivor Type'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Raft_(short_story)

I think my dad let me read Skeleton Crew when I was way too young, I must have been about 9.

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