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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Apraxin posted:

In the mid-1970s, a young man named Russell Smrekar murdered several witnesses who were going to testify against him in two separate criminal trials. Absolute cold-blooded, mafia hitman-style murders; killing the pregnant wife of one of the witnesses because she happened to be there when he broke into their house, burying another victim's body under a highway construction site. All told, he killed four people and was plotting to kill two more before he was convicted of the previous murders. The kicker is that the trials the victims were going to testify against him at were for:

a) Stealing a guitar and some records from a college dorm room
b) Shoplifting three steaks, valued at $4, from a Kroeger's

Four murders. To get out of petty theft charges.

Hey potential murderers, I am amenable to intimidation. No need to got to all the trouble of murdering me. :shobon:

Or just give me tickets to a concert that conflicts with the court date. Whatever. I wasn’t all that exited about taking time off to testify about $4 in steaks, and I won’t look a gift horse in the mouth.

Just thought I’d put that out there.

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Manson Family Murderer Mailed Hand-Written Edits for His Wikipedia Page From Prison

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Droogie posted:

It really is. I think I revisit it about once a year. It's just so well written, and the sense of panic and hopelessness is just crushing. I think we all believe ourselves to be wiser than that, but it really does that it just takes a few simple mistakes to gently caress yourself over if you're out of your element.

Mahood’s hunt for Bill Ewasko is the saddest thing.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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RC and Moon Pie posted:

A combination of :smith: and strangely uplifting for what he's accomplished.

How a Son Survived Being Injected with HIV by His Father

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While preparing this article, I receive a packet in the mail on Stewart's behalf from a family friend. Inside is a cover letter. No one has tried to hear Brian's side, it begins. The letter makes a list of accusations about Badger's mom and the media and HIV. His son is alive and boasting of his exploits on Facebook.

How dare he draw breath! :arghfist:

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Those may be facts, but are they scientific facts?

Sic ’em, lawyer!

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Funky See Funky Do posted:

Ever wished you couldn't feel pain? Like a scraped knee, a broken bone or an endless derail? Well some people can't and it ruins their lives.

My mom informed me of this disorder once when I complained about pain. It left an impression.

Platystemon has a new favorite as of 13:16 on May 5, 2016

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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That drat Satyr posted:

In what crazy world do you get arrested for wearing a shirt.

OH RIGHT SORRY MURRICAN PRIVILEGE SPEAKING. :allears:

In America he’d get beaten and the culprits would mysteriously go unpunished.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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I was thinking that it’s like that time when I went to the post office to buy stamps for the express purpose of mailing post cards. I neglected to specify the cheaper post card stamps, but whatever, the difference is pennies.

It’s not like the man needed the money. I imagine it was a mistake he couldn’t be arsed to correct.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Filox posted:

one of the greatest earthquakes ever to hit the U.S.


Consider me unnerved.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Cythereal posted:

Sad thing is, Orlando's usually considered one of the nicer cities in the state

Quoting because this unnerved me.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Infyrno posted:

Then there's that story that comes up about a guy's dog getting confused or whatever dogs do around geysers and running straight to it's death. Naturally it's owner ran right in after it. Still stupidity beyond stupidity but you have to think just loved that drat dog so much that he didn't have time to think about the death awaiting him. Then again, if he was trying to save his dog he most definitely knew it was dangerous/deadly or he wouldn't have been trying to save the dog in the first place. I say keep it how it is, there's no stopping these people.

David Allen Kirwan on 20 July 1981

It was his friend’s dog.

IIRC it’s the first incident in Death in Yellowstone: Accidents and Foolhardiness in the First National Park

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Telsa Cola posted:

The fines are hilariously small for it, the tourist who took a calf which caused it be abandoned by its herd and euthanized got charged $110. Apparently other charges are pending but they will also be likely laughable if any of them go through. Many times people just don't get charged too and warned off.

Two words: jury nullification

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Nckdictator posted:

In a few days it will be the 70th anniversary of the Winecoff Hotel fire, the deadliest in American history and mostly forgotten these days.

It was December 7th 1946

I suspect it may be overshadowed by A Date Which Will Live in Infamy.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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whiteyfats posted:

To be fair, the US was one of the few (the only?) countries who was saying how bad an idea it was to make the Treaty of Versailles so punitive.

The Treaty of Versailles wasn’t so punitive, though.

It was enough to make Germans whine, and that’s about it. It didn’t significantly suppress their industry.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Breakfast Feud posted:

I just don't understand how something like that Ghost Ship fire can happen in this day and age. Like, I get the place will never be up to code and will never have a legit permit, but it's not hard or expensive to rig up a makeshift fire alarm system and maybe some LED string lights towards an exit. Hell, exit signs (with 30 minute battery backup!) are only like ~$70. Honestly though, if you're capable of rigging up a living space like that you could at least cobble together a domestic pressure sprinkler system for partial coverage. Glue, plastic pipe and sprinkler heads is all it would take.

I don’t think those DIY solutions would work as well as you think they would.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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If I were falsely convicted in the United States, I’d rather be sentenced to death than life in prison.

Executions can take decades to be carried out, and I stand a better chance of appeal with the death penalty hanging over my head.

No one gives a poo poo about falsely convicted persons serving life sentences.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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DogonCrook posted:

Problem is it looks very likely we can attribute a large portion of murders to brain damage or defects.

Also the legal definition of insanity aside, thinking a dog is satan and telling you to kill people doesnt strike me as necessarily their fault anymore than a dog biting a dude cause he has rabies.

Wait till you hear about determinism.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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How does it feel to be a Russian serial killer and know you’ll never measure up to Lavrentiy Beria?

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The records contained the official testimony from Colonel R.S. Sarkisov and Colonel V. Nadaraia, two of Beria's most senior NKVD bodyguards. They stated that on warm nights during the war years, Beria was often driven slowly through the streets of Moscow in his armored Packard limousine. He would point out young women to be detained and escorted to his mansion where wine and a feast awaited them. After dining, Beria would take the women into his soundproofed office and rape them. Beria's bodyguards reported that their orders included handing each victim a flower bouquet as she left Beria's house. The implication being that to accept made it consensual; refusal would mean arrest. In one incident his chief bodyguard, Sarkisov, reported that a woman who had been brought to Beria rejected his advances and ran out of his office; Sarkisov mistakenly handed her the flowers anyway prompting the enraged Beria to declare "Now it's not a bouquet, it's a wreath! May it rot on your grave!" The woman was arrested by the NKVD the next day.

Women also submitted to Beria's sexual advances in exchange for the promise of freeing their relatives from the Gulag. In one case, Beria picked up Tatiana Okunevskaya - a well-known Soviet actress - under the pretence of bringing her to perform for the Politburo. Instead he took her to his dacha where he offered to free her father and grandmother from NKVD prison if she submitted. He then raped her telling her "scream or not, it doesn't matter." Yet Beria already knew her relatives had been executed months earlier. Okunevskaya was arrested shortly afterwards and sentenced to solitary confinement in the Gulag from which she survived.

Beria's sexually predatory nature was well-known to the Politburo, and though Stalin took an indulgent viewpoint (considering Beria's wartime importance), he said, "I don't trust Beria." In one instance when Stalin learned his daughter was alone with Beria at his house, he telephoned her and told her to leave immediately. When Beria complimented Alexander Poskrebyshev's daughter on her beauty, Poskrebyshev quickly pulled her aside and instructed her, "Don't ever accept a lift from Beria."[43] After taking an interest in Marshal Kliment Voroshilov's daughter-in-law during a party at their summer dacha, Beria shadowed their car closely all the way back to the Kremlin terrifying Voroshilov's wife.

Prior to and during the war, Beria directed Sarkisov to keep a running list of the names and phone numbers of his sexual encounters. Eventually he ordered Sarkisov to destroy the list because it was a security risk, but the colonel retained a secret handwritten copy. When Beria's fall from power began, Sarkisov passed the list to Viktor Abakumov, the former wartime head of SMERSH. He was now chief of the MGB - the successor to the NKVD - who was already aggressively building a case against Beria. Stalin, who was also seeking to undermine Beria, was thrilled by the detailed records kept by Sarkisov, demanding: "Send me everything this rear end in a top hat writes down!" Sarkisov reported that Beria's sexual appetite had led to him contracting syphilis during the war for which he was secretly treated without the knowledge of Stalin or the Politburo (a fact Beria later admitted during his interrogation). Although the Russian government acknowledged Sarkisov's handwritten list of Beria's victims on 17 January 2003, the victims' names will not be released until 2028.

Evidence suggests that Beria not only abducted and raped women but some were also murdered. His villa in Moscow is now the Tunisian Embassy (at 55°45′34″N 37°35′10″E). In the mid 1990s, routine work in the grounds turned up the bone remains of several young girls buried in the gardens. According to Martin Sixsmith, in a BBC documentary, "Beria spent his nights having teenagers abducted from the streets and brought here for him to rape. Those who resisted were strangled and buried in his wife's rose garden."

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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TotalLossBrain posted:

"Safety culture" as it's called today did not exist back then. Los Alamos was run by civilian scientists with little supervision. Recording notes was not done reliably. Weapons parts were one-off with little-to-no paper trail. Production was lab-scale with a lab attitude. Everything was a prototype.
The first few years after 1945 were a rude awaking to the US Government when it realized that the Los Alamos operation absolutely could not be depended upon to churn out nuclear weapons at any predictable rate. It was a mad scientist lab run by the very same scientists.

anonymous web commenter posted:

I know a woman who worked at Los Alamos as a nuclear engineer. Our babies were born around the same time, and we became friends. She would tell me hair raising stories. Apparently, the original scientists and workers, well into the sixties were incredibly lax about dealing with waste. Stuff got stuck in boxes and barrels and dumped willy-nilly in the rough countryside surrounding the lab. She was tasked at one point with going about with a partner and mapping where this waste had been dumped so it could be dealt with in a safer manner...or to rope the area off. Since so much time had past there was much vegetation grown over the stuff. She said it was not hard to figure out where the stuff was...find an old cattle trail or logging road, follow down its branches and often there would be stuff that set off their clickers. One afternoon they had gone uphill into a wooded area. At the end of a very rough disused track was a horse trailer, rusted out, wheels rotted. The door had a bar across it. her co-worker made some comment about how unlikely it was that anything would be stashed there and opened the doors. She said she never saw anyone move as rapidly as he did, jumping back violently. The whole trailer was stacked with barrels, many with lids off, and the barrels were in various states of decay...like lacework. They tasted metal on the air. They ended up having a scrubbing like that Silkwood scene, but she said she did not cry, that she was too busy cussing out the assholes who would put such dangerous waste out with no thought.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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bean_shadow posted:

I firmly believe Trump will be our most Nixonian President since, well, Nixon. Nixon was off his rocker most of the time. If history is any indication, then Pence will eventually be President because Trump will not be able to stop himself from loving up, like Nixon, even when things are going fine.

Politics has changed in forty years.

These days, a president would have to do something far worse than orchestrate/cover a burglary to face impeachment.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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flosofl posted:

dash is not emdash.

Hyphen‐minus is not em dash.

FTFY

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Phanatic posted:

If you were a juror who convicted a man based on bitemark analysis, you have done society a disservice. Bitemark analysis no more rises to the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard than astrology or phrenology does. Maybe the guy was guilty anyway, maybe you didn't send an innocent guy to jail, but if you did it on the basis of bitemark analysis you reached your conclusion on the basis of insufficient evidence.

Not the juror’s fault.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Bite marks probably aren’t remotely as unique as fingerprints, and that would be fine if everyone recognised that.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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pookel posted:

Can't speak for other Americans, but I found Attenborough so cringe-inducingly awkward that the series was unwatchable.

Consider me unnerved.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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I’ve sat through jury selection twice. On time I was kicked out late enough that my duty was considered served and I didn’t have to return to the waiting room.

The other time, jury selection actually went to a second day. My luck had me show up on day two and get kicked out two minutes in.

What I’m saying is: you’ll probably be dismissed. Bring a book.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Phanatic posted:

Courts are pretty good at spotting people who are trying to get out of jury duty by being smartasses and generally frown upon it.

Respect the judge, and don’t waste everyone’s time by arguing how you’re a special snowflake who can’t take the time to sit on a jury. If that were actually true, you should have explained it via mail/phone when you got the summons.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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POOL IS CLOSED posted:

I had to see if The Sharper Image still exists. Short story: sorta.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyONt_ZH_aw

Sad!

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Flyball posted:

Unless you're an alternate. They don't get to deliberate unless someone leaves for whatever reason. Otherwise, it's sit in the courtroom by yourself and wait.

Yeah but once in a blue moon an alternate juror gets to be an agent of chaos, like in the Malheur trial.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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IShallRiseAgain posted:

You do realize that trial by jury is completely optional right? Lawyers choose to have a trial by jury because it's better for their client.

Yeah but both sides have to agree. The defence can’t unilaterally decide to have a bench trial.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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lol if you grandmas weren’t the wine type

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Solice Kirsk posted:

I believe its "Dalmation." Or the creation of a Dal-Nation, if one would.

Dalmatian

They’re named for Dalmatia, a region of Croatia and historically a province of the Roman empire, but that was before the dog’s time.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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nocal posted:

Oh he wasn't eating it

He probably was.

Raw wheat is unusual, but people still get impacted bowels from eating sunflower seeds whole.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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OctoberBlues posted:

Yeah, some of the episodes were great, but some were like "This person was adopted and has never found their parents" and "this person woke up one night and saw a ghost in front of their bed and no, it totally wasn't a dream!"

It probably wasn’t a dream. It was sleep paralysis.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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turntabler posted:

But up until 10 mins ago I thought that if you crashed your car in the 70s plate glass flew every where and cut everyone to ribbons like something out of final destination.

Thanks, Nader.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Deadwood was shot after the conviction? :psyduck:

It’s one of only four things listed in his filmography since.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Henker posted:

So apparently there's a (very rare) disease called fatal insomnia that causes you to stop sleeping. That must be absolutely torturous to go through.

The Family That Couldn’t Sleep is a good read.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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TapTheForwardAssist posted:

Here's a good longform sympathetic look at the "gently caress that gator" guy who was killed by an alligator in East Texas in 2015: https://www.buzzfeed.com/golianopoulos/gently caress-that-gator?utm_term=.sde3LKYgj#.cbn1XnpDa

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But no one was affected like Brian was.

Within minutes of meeting last December in Beaumont, Brian Woodward ditches me inside a popular seafood restaurant and retreats to the parking lot. Moments later I find him standing beside his 1999 Dodge Ram 1500. “Come on,” he says, climbing into the driver’s seat. He blows into a Breathalyzer to start the car. “I don’t like people,” he tells me. “I walk in somewhere packed with people I don’t know, gently caress you, I’m gone.” We drive to a Chili’s in Orange, the easternmost city in the state, where he now lives.

Sympathy is building already.

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We talk while he drives. “I can go to that shipyard now, ask for a job, and have it. You can’t find too many people that can outwork me. Pound for pound, you can’t beat my little rear end. Tommie was the same way. He worked real hard. Most people nowadays, they’re not — they just don’t. Tommie lived with me and worked with me at the shipyards. Then I had to get out. I wasn’t making enough money.” Brian worked on tugboats offshore for a while but didn’t like being away from home. “I do AC work now. I install air conditioners in people’s homes — million-dollar homes, piece-of-poo poo homes.”

Can you really play the “people nowadays” card when you are thirty years old?

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Robnett was stunned. Having grown up on the swamp, he deemed himself an alligator expert of sorts. He knew that big gators didn’t get that big by being stupid. He also knew that swimming down a populated bayou in the late-afternoon sun were the actions of a stupid gator; gators that size hug the banks, avoiding the main cuts, avoiding humans. From his kitchen, Robnett could see that the gator’s face was littered with scars. Something, he thought, wasn’t right with that animal. As he watched the gator heading south, he thought of his children — a 14-year-old girl, 3-year-old girl, and 1-year-old boy — all of whom frolicked in Adams Bayou. Tommie Woodward died in those waters a few weeks later.

They are literally defaming this alligator. It’s not the stupid one here.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Field Mousepad posted:

Is this the guy who tied up the gator and hosed it for a while?

No.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Field Mousepad posted:

Some guy from I believe Florida got attacked by a gator and lived so he tied it up and railed it for a while for revenge purposes.

But was it a male or a female alligator?

I need to calibrate my level of disgust.

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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MonoAus posted:

Is gay alligator rape really that much different to hetero alligator rape?

Move one letter in your username and you’re “MooAnus”.

Coincidence? 🤔

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