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TwoDogs1Cup posted:So.. Adam Rose huh. Guy looks like a giant dork and he's getting booed already I don't know what Raw you were watching but the only reaction I heard from that crowd all night was them singing his theme.
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"Don't be a lemon, be a rosebud" is an incredibly stupid catchphrase. It's not even clever or a play on words or anything, it's just a stupid phrase. And why did the bunny come out? Easter is over.
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Shima Honnou posted:Just give it time, Cena could still get involved somehow. Maybe Kane accidentally kidnaps Nikki or something stupid. Oh god, I can totally see this happening...
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Cromulent posted:"Don't be a lemon, be a rosebud" is an incredibly stupid catchphrase. It's not even clever or a play on words or anything, it's just a stupid phrase. And why did the bunny come out? Easter is over. It's a dumb play on words but his name is Rose and he wants to be your bud. Hope this helps.
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May 6, 2014 14:01
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His debut was different but really half his appeal is the entrance the crowd was bad but even they broke out into singing his theme so he must be doing something right. His gimmicks never going to propel him to main event status but he can be a fun midcard act and lets just see if this swagger interaction goes anywhere.
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May 6, 2014 14:04
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The Adam Rose debut went better than I expected, thanks 100% to Zeb Colter's look of shock, disgust, and fear. Was also somewhat surprised to see the crowd doig the theme, will be interesting to see if that continues.
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projecthalaxy posted:The Adam Rose debut went better than I expected, thanks 100% to Zeb Colter's look of shock, disgust, and fear. Was also somewhat surprised to see the crowd doig the theme, will be interesting to see if that continues. Someone who was there would have to confirm but I kinda feel like that was his entourage singing
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I am interested to hear everyone's opinions on why the fans cooled on Ryder. Was it totally the WWE's fault for burying him in the Kane feud? You could argue that other people were buried (Bryan) and people still got behind them and they recovered. Could it be that Ryder's act was one dimensional and fizzled out because there was no depth to it? I guess complaining about his push on the Internet didn't help either.
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May 6, 2014 14:12
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Man, that one guy was right. People will outright make stuff up (like the crowd not being into Rose) to justify hating on a guy they don't like.
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flashy_mcflash posted:It's a dumb play on words but his name is Rose and he wants to be your bud. Hope this helps.
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May 6, 2014 14:15
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Adam Rose will do fine, but it would help a lot if they made the gimmick more over the top. The party needs to be way bigger, and I dunno how feasible this is, but they should even get the bus to drive out, like on the right side of the Raw set, and have him and the party come out of that.
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Cromulent posted:But lemons aren't related to roses in any way. "Don't be a thorn, but a rosebud" makes more sense. Perhaps I am overthinking this. why do you insist on being a lemon
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I give it two episodes of Raw before everybody in here changes their tune to "Adam Rose is the best thing ever".
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RagingHematoma posted:I am interested to hear everyone's opinions on why the fans cooled on Ryder. Was it totally the WWE's fault for burying him in the Kane feud? You could argue that other people were buried (Bryan) and people still got behind them and they recovered. Could it be that Ryder's act was one dimensional and fizzled out because there was no depth to it? I guess complaining about his push on the Internet didn't help either. I don't think Bryan ever got buried quite like Ryder did. Ryder had a groundswell of support that ended up with him in a feud with Cena & Kane where he was completely humbled and embarrassed. Daniel Bryan had lovely stuff happen here and there, for sure, but never quite like Ryder. But more to the point, Bryan was also never completely removed from Raw and most B-shows either. It's hard to keep momentum when you're never seen on TV.
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I did not watch this show since my service went out but reading up on it it sounds like that was a very good thing
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Astro7x posted:Oh god, I can totally see this happening... And just to prove I can make things infinitely worth "Daniel! We must unite to rescue our significant others, We shall traverse through 50 stages of hell, acquire power ups, someone may loose an eye. But we will stand united as Brother-In-Laws" "We aren't Brother-In-Laws" "ALMOST-Brother-In-Laws! Ce-Yes Movement Away!" "We're not calling ourselves that.
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Rogue Copter Pilot posted:Someone who was there would have to confirm but I kinda feel like that was his entourage singing There was a group of guys about 3 rows ahead of me that were really pushing for some good chanting, but they lost steam about 1/3rd of the way into the show. A bit later the chief chanter stood up and turned around to say that we all suck. A guy behind me ice-burned with "well you're gay". Ohvee fucked around with this message at 14:42 on May 6, 2014 |
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projecthalaxy posted:The Adam Rose debut went better than I expected, thanks 100% to Zeb Colter's look of shock, disgust, and fear. Was also somewhat surprised to see the crowd doig the theme, will be interesting to see if that continues. If you liked it 100% for someone else's reactions to it then his debut was not better than you expected. This thread has the weirdest opinions. Sometimes y'all want good wrestlers but then hate Rey and Sheamus and Del Rio. Sometimes y'all want entertainment then hate the silly midcard rockstar comedy goof before he even has a match.
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May 6, 2014 14:37
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Adam Rose seems like an annoying douche and I would not want to party with him
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I'm sure glad WWE World Heavyweight Champion Daniel Bryan is being made to look like a complete vagina against THE DEMON KANE, THE DEMON KANE, THE DEMON KANE. Brie Bella is the vomit topping of this poo poo sandwhich of a "feud". Please keep Brie away from Bryan. Please keep Kane away from Bryan.
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Call Me Charlie posted:Want this as an avatar so bad. I'd be honored 
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Auron posted:I'm sure glad WWE World Heavyweight Champion Daniel Bryan is being made to look like a complete vagina against THE DEMON KANE, THE DEMON KANE, THE DEMON KANE. Hitting his finisher and then winning clean on PPV is looking like a complete vagina?
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Korelle posted:Hitting his finisher and then winning clean on PPV is looking like a complete vagina? that just made Kane mad
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Korelle posted:Hitting his finisher and then winning clean on PPV is looking like a complete vagina? Hiding in a room and running away from Kane in a car isn't? I understand he's "trying to protect Brie", but the writing is just atrocious.
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RagingHematoma posted:I am interested to hear everyone's opinions on why the fans cooled on Ryder. Was it totally the WWE's fault for burying him in the Kane feud? You could argue that other people were buried (Bryan) and people still got behind them and they recovered. Could it be that Ryder's act was one dimensional and fizzled out because there was no depth to it? I guess complaining about his push on the Internet didn't help either. I'd say WWE's fault as his one big program was completely designed to kill his momentum. Him getting really annoying on twitter and his YT show getting really bad didn't help matters. Fans still chanted his name for a long while even when he was dropped down to jobber status - but how long are you going to chant for a jobber who is never on TV?
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I had a really great time at Raw. It was my first time going, so it was exciting. The people in my section sucked though and just sat quietly for most of the show. The guy next to me just kept scoffing and saying "that's so fake". My heart was breaking for the kid behind me all decked out in Cena gear who kept asking his dad where Cena was. But, he finally came out after the show went off the air and that kid lost his mind. It was adorable. The crowd cheered quite loudly for Cena. I was surprised!
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AlligatorHugs posted:I had a really great time at Raw. It was my first time going, so it was exciting. The people in my section sucked though and just sat quietly for most of the show. The guy next to me just kept scoffing and saying "that's so fake". Once the camera's are off Cena is typically treated quite respectfully. Hell usually gets the loudest pops at the house shows.
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triplexpac posted:I don't think Bryan ever got buried quite like Ryder did. Ryder had a groundswell of support that ended up with him in a feud with Cena & Kane where he was completely humbled and embarrassed. Daniel Bryan had lovely stuff happen here and there, for sure, but never quite like Ryder. Bryan did have Cole actively making GBS threads on him every time he came out while Ryder was just ignored or dismissed. The latter is quite a bit worse because it could never be spun into a 'Ryder has been held down for years' angle and the fans completely forget that he exists.
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Onmi posted:Once the camera's are off Cena is typically treated quite respectfully. Hell usually gets the loudest pops at the house shows.
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HulkaMatt posted:Fans still chanted his name for a long while even when he was dropped down to jobber status - but how long are you going to chant for a jobber who is never on TV? They're still chanting for Punk 
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Air Julio posted:They're still chanting for Punk 
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Onmi posted:And just to prove I can make things infinitely worth I refuse to believe Bryan would play the straight man in this situation. At some point Bryan forces Cena to hug it out.
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DannoMack posted:This thread has the weirdest opinions. Sometimes y'all want good wrestlers but then hate Rey and Sheamus and Del Rio. Sometimes y'all want entertainment then hate the silly midcard rockstar comedy goof before he even has a match. Rey in 1998 was a great wrestler. Not so much in 2014. Maybe when he gets his cyborg knees he'll be able to do stuff again. Sheamus and Del Rio are both good in the ring but my god they're so boring.
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Auron posted:Hiding in a room and running away from Kane in a car isn't? I never thought I would rather see Brie "wrestle" than "act" yet here we are
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There is no good defense for Bryan hiding & running away from Kane.oatgan posted:Adam Rose seems like an annoying douche and I would not want to party with him Entrance needs actual wacky crazy lighting and enough party people to fill up the entire ramp and ringside area.
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Part of the reason why Daniel Bryan can weather storms better than Zack Ryder is that, you know, he's actually a really great wrestler. So they can put him in dogshit angles as they do, but once he finally gets in the ring Daniel can usually find a way to spin it into gold and get people engaged. The fact that the crowd was so dead for his match on RAW shows that there are some angles so bad Daniel Bryan can't defeat them, in addition to once again proving that Alberto Del Rio is an amazing heat vacuum. Zack Ryder could not get people to forget bad booking when he was in the ring because he's a lovely wrestler who doesn't know how to connect to a crowd outside of fist pumping.
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Adam Rose can't party for poo poo until a RAW goes off the air with such a huge party that the ring collapses.Tato posted:Zack Ryder could not get people to forget bad booking when he was in the ring because he's a lovely wrestler who doesn't know how to connect to a crowd outside of fist pumping. I don't really think that's fair. It's hard to make people forget bad booking when the company turns you into a complete jobber. HulkaMatt fucked around with this message at 15:34 on May 6, 2014 |
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I have a feeling the matches between DB and Kane are gonna be all gimmick matches or schmozzes. However, they had a really rad match(other than the forklift thing) at Extreme Rules so I have faith in it. I'm still completely bewildered at the John Cena/Wyatt cage match tho. The build was excellent but the actual match was dumb as gently caress. WHY ARE YOU CLIMBING OUT THE loving DOOR IS OVER THERE
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Dave seems to think they're going in the direction of a BURIED ALIVE match so if anything at least we'll only be getting one more match between these two.
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TenaciousJ posted:I refuse to believe Bryan would play the straight man in this situation. At some point Bryan forces Cena to hug it out. With Bray.
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