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 Old thread The NBA draft is cool as hell and no other sport has such an immediate "player is drafted -> franchise is changed" effect. Granted, most rookies are Real Bad and some of them will never even play in the NBA. But the ones that do? They might be okay at defense someday and if that thought doesn't get your blood going then I don't even want to know you bro The big question in this draft is not really one at all. Sure, between Wiggins and Embiid you have the dynamic of dark horse vs. big name, upside vs. polish, wing vs. big man, but realistically both are astoundingly good prospects and barring their careers going horribly off the rails, both will likely end up starting in the NBA for years. The top five of this draft will likely go something like Wiggins/Embiid/Parker/Exum/Randle, with the top three sliding around depending on how the lottery shakes out and Exum and Randle grappling for that fourth spot. In the next tier you have players like Marcus Smart, Aaron Gordon, Dario Saric, and Noah Vonleh: projected starters with all-star upside. Not as dazzling as the top 5 but still high quality players that would likely work their way into the top 5 of a weaker draft. After that, you have the McDermotts (lower ceiling but still project to start and/or fill niches), the Harrises (underwhelming college players with fantastic upside) and the Ennises (relative unknowns who had excellent seasons and surged their way up through the draft). In practical terms, it's a fairly safe draft with some good upside players. You don't necessarily have to be a genius to land on a solid pick. Instead of trying to organize a composite draft which will largely be full of subjective evaluations and disagreeing blowhards, what I'll do instead is compile a top 5 for each position, which tends to be more rigid, and note team needs at each position. I'll also do writeups of the top 5 at each position and then anyone else the thread is curious about.
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Top 5 PG 1. Dante Exum 2. Marcus Smart 3. Tyler Ennis 4. Elfrid Payton 5. Kyle Anderson Top 5 SG 1. Andrew Wiggins 2. Gary Harris 3. James Young 4. Nik Stauskas 5. Jordan Adams Top 5 SF 1. Jabari Parker 2. Dario Saric 3. K.J. McDaniels 4. Rodney Hood 5. Jerami Grant Top 5 PF 1. Julius Randle 2. Doug McDermott 3. Aaron Gordon 4. T.J. Warren 5. Clint Capela Top 5 C 1. Joel Embiid 2. Noah Vonleh 3. Jusuf Nurkic 4. Mitch McGary 5. Kristaps Porzingis Declan MacManus fucked around with this message at 23:14 on May 8, 2014 |
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May 8, 2014 23:02
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I thought the Harris twins were going back to UK?
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May 8, 2014 23:32
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Kibner posted:I thought the Harris twins were going back to UK? Gary Harris is a shooting guard from MSU. 
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May 8, 2014 23:33
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Declan MacManus posted:Gary Harris is a shooting guard from MSU. Ahh, when you said the Harrises, I thought you were talking about the twins. :p
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Those are Harrisons.
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(Elfrid Payton is better than Tyler Ennis)
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May 9, 2014 03:35
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mynameisjohn posted:(Elfrid Payton is better than Tyler Ennis) I also believe this 
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May 9, 2014 03:36
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Henchman of Santa posted:Those are Harrisons. dongsbot 9000 posted:What about Hairstons? Well, poo poo. So many similar last names. D:
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May 9, 2014 03:51
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mynameisjohn posted:(Elfrid Payton is better than Tyler Ennis) Nah. I think Ennis is better than Smart too.
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I'd go: PG: 1. Dante Exum 2. Tyler Ennis 3. Marcus Smart 4. Shabazz Napier 5. Elfrid Payton Sleeper: Jahii Carson SG: 1. Andrew Wiggins 2. Gary Harris 3. Nik Stauskas 4. PJ Hariston 5. James Young Sleeper: Jabari Brown SF: 1. Jabari Paker 2. Dario Saric 3. Rodney Hood 4. Kyle Anderson 5. TJ Warren PF: 1. Julius Randle 2. Adreian Payne 3. Doug McDermott 4. Aaron Gordon 5. Clint Capela Sleeper: Jarnell Stokes C: 1. Joel Embiid 2. Noah Vonleh 3. Mitch McGary 4. Jusuf Nurkic 5. I dunno who cares, Johnny O'Bryant or some euro guy MourningView fucked around with this message at 06:59 on May 9, 2014 |
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May 9, 2014 06:56
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hahaha ahem im sorry Declan but im used to funny pictures and writeups can you go ahead and take care of that thanks
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the_american_dream posted:hahaha ahem im sorry Declan but im used to funny pictures and writeups can you go ahead and take care of that thanks Kristaps Porzingis is a funny name, that's all I got for now (I'll be writing my balls off soon enough)
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Cleanthony "Clean Anthony" Early, Elfrid and some Euro nonsense are likely the best of the crop, but the NBA should bow their heads in shame at the astounding recent surge in silly NFL names. Jadeveon Clowney, Barkevious Mingo, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, this draft got nothing on 'em. Still, it's a shame those young football men will all have traumatic brain injuries that ruin their lives before 2030. Dante Exum's name being silly or sick as hell will depend on his play--Travis Outlaw is a shameful waste of a name, but Damian Lillard edit makes it work. EvanTH fucked around with this message at 16:40 on May 9, 2014 |
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May 9, 2014 16:38
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Travis Outlaw was perfect becaue he got drafted by the Blazers at the height of the JailBlazer era. Literally everyone who followed the NBA Draft was making "of course the Blazers will take the guy named Outlaw" jokes and then they actually did it.
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The Asian Oprah posted:Cleanthony "Clean Anthony" Early, Elfrid and some Euro nonsense are likely the best of the crop, but the NBA should bow their heads in shame at the astounding recent surge in silly NFL names. Jadeveon Clowney, Barkevious Mingo, Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, this draft got nothing on 'em. Still, it's a shame those young football men will all have traumatic brain injuries that ruin their lives before 2030. Dante Exum is a great great name. Makes him sound like a renaissance writer who wrote with a latin name to sound prestigious. Julius Randle is a great name too, that's a name that rings out "NBA POWER FORWARD." My list for this year outside of the first round guys that we're used to reading: Khem Birch Thanasis Antetokkounmpo, we already know his last name, but what a first name Fuquan Edwin Roscoe Smith - Good 70s name Okaro White Bogdan Bogdanovic Alessandro Gentile Adin Vrabac
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May 9, 2014 17:35
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Is there much chance that Hairston rises in the draft? He seems like a guy whose stock is low because of off-court stuff that'll look better to teams in workouts. It'd be nice if Charlotte could get a shooter late.
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May 9, 2014 17:39
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Weapon X will be a good nick name too
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May 9, 2014 18:19
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I really don't have much to contribute to the draft threads so I don't post in them much but I feel the need to let you know that I appreciate the effort that you put in making them Declan.
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Hairston has been tearing up the D-League but I think he's pretty much exclusively a scorer, probably first-off-the-bench type. I don't really see teams in the top 20 going for him.
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May 9, 2014 18:49
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I'm certain this guy has been drafted 3 or 4 times already.
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Lockback posted:I'm certain this guy has been drafted 3 or 4 times already.
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WHATESPN.com posted:The Sacramento Kings have launched what is believed to be the NBA's first crowdsourcing program to help make their draft pick. Crowd-sourcing a draft pick?
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May 9, 2014 19:56
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There's a Bogdan and Bojan Bogdanovic. The Nets have the rights to Bojan but 2 other teams had his rights before.
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Crazy Ted posted:WHAT Seems worth a shot, the draft is a crapshoot anyway, may as well get some press around it. Willninho posted:There's a Bogdan and Bojan Bogdanovic. The Nets have the rights to Bojan but 2 other teams had his rights before. You're just making up funny names now.
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Lockback posted:Seems worth a shot, the draft is a crapshoot anyway, may as well get some press around it. Oh okay, let's not scout at all and just draw names out of a hat. It's a crapshoot!!!!
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May 9, 2014 20:16
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Bogdan means "God-given." Aleksandr Bogdanov (author of the early 20th century science fiction novel Red Star) changed his name to that because he was so full of himself...but died giving himself malaria/tuberculosis-infected blood transfusions when trying to achieve immortality. Anyways, it's the best name in the draft since God Shammgod
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MourningView posted:Oh okay, let's not scout at all and just draw names out of a hat. It's a crapshoot!!!! I doubt they are just leaving it all up random internet strangers. See if anyone out there gives them anything slightly interesting for free and get some publicity out of it. Worst case, you disregard everything and just use your own data. Best case, you find some diamond in the rough to add to your front office. Most likely case, Declan and dokmo get jobs in Sacramento
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WhyteRyce posted:Most likely case, Declan and dokmo get jobs in Sacramento Actually Vivek will realize the beauty of net points and hire zogo.
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WhyteRyce posted:I doubt they are just leaving it all up random internet strangers. See if anyone out there gives them anything slightly interesting for free and get some publicity out of it. Worst case, you disregard everything and just use your own data. Best case, you find some diamond in the rough to add to your front office. I think it's fine but "the draft is a crapshoot so who cares!" is a really dumb reason. It's not a complete crapshoot. There is a reason some teams are way better at it than others.
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PDA seems like he has a sense of humor dokmo, so submitting penis charts to him could win you some points
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MourningView posted:I think it's fine but "the draft is a crapshoot so who cares!" is a really dumb reason. It's not a complete crapshoot. There is a reason some teams are way better at it than others. I meant that having another data point, even if it is a dumb/useless one, likely isn't going to change the needle. If the guy who would have gotten picked 6th gets picked 5th, you likely haven't changed your odds of hitting the home run that much.
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MourningView posted:Oh okay, let's not scout at all and just draw names out of a hat. It's a crapshoot!!!! Worked for the Browns
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This is your chance Declan! Instead of watching every college game and taking notes for us ingrates, you could get a job doing it for an actual (kind of) NBA team. Or MV, instead of moderating and dealing with such malcontents and head cases like Bashez or Doltos, you could be dealing with professional malcontents like Demarcus Cousins - it'd be like you never left!
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May 9, 2014 21:07
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Alright, boss, so my numbers say we should sign Ricky Davis.
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"Well, if you must know, I think Andrew Wiggins is your wisest choice." "Uh, Probably Magic, Wiggins is already drafted." "Yeah, well, that's why they call it a 'contested claim.'"
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