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Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I am all kinds of in. Genuinely I don't watch genre TV and like more down-to-earth stuff, but here's a list of a few shows I like, first that are currently airing and second all-time favourites.

Drama: Mad Men, Fargo, Hannibal, GoT / The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, The Wire, the cliched ones you know the drill here.
Comedy: Comedy Bang! Bang!, Louie, Adventure Time, Bob's Burgers / Arrested Development, Party Down, Community, Office US, 30 Rock.

No restrictions when it comes to network etc. Bring it on.

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Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Primeval is real bad. I won't say more so MrA can remain unspoiled.

And House of Lies? You're on. At least it has an awesome cast so I know even if it's complete poo poo it's being delivered by good people.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
okay I am way too excited to get home and participate now

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Oh man this thread is fantastic. Here's my first one:

House of Lies
Season 2 Episode 8


Okay so I almost checked this show out when it premiered based on the cast (Don Cheadle, Kristen Bell, Jean-Ralphio) but the reviews were negative and I never bothered. Since then it's fallen off the radar completely from what I can tell.

I remember the general plot being that the main characters work for a company that are evil in some way and they lie a lot, hence the title. While getting the episode I found out that they are management consultants, who I guess are scumbags? The main characters are the three actors I mentioned before plus one other guy who I think wears glasses, so I'm going to name him Glasses.

Live Reactions:

Distracted myself through the previously on. It looked pretty boring, then Don Cheadle got beaten up by cops at the end.

The team are in a dildo store. The cinematography is crap. Constant close-ups with very little to establish the location. Cheadle calls to tell Bell he can't make it while Jean-Ralphio and Glasses (who actually does wear glasses!) play with the fake breast and vagina models. Cheadle’s dad and brother visit and comment on the beating. Cheadle’s brother did not bring scones.

Glasses recognises the name of a porn star the sex store guy says. Then they go to the dildo factory, in a montage that is clearly meant to be really funny. They’re making sex things! Kristen Bell looks a bit awkward! God dammit Deadpool. This is going on for quite a while.

This dildo company is the best-quality one but are getting beaten on prices. Oh, the head of the dildo company is Adam Brody. So far you have to find the concept of them making dildoes inherently funny, and I cannot claim to be sold.

I think there might be about to be a scene of Kristen Bell trying out a dildo. She gets sassed by Brody for being prudish and then he sends her a bunch of sex toys and then Kristen Bell tries them out in her office but we don’t see it but I still feel sorry for her.

Don Cheadle’s brother tries to convince him to start a media furore over the beating while they get some good product placement in for the UFC video game series. Cheadle wins the match and the scene ends with him somberly saying “Take that…motherfucker.”

Glasses comes up with the idea to have husbands make custom moulds of their penises for their wives, and then there’s something about his dick having ‘unique proportions’. Brody shows up at the office to court Bell and they immediately head off to his place. We get a good look at Cheadle’s Nokia phone before he picks up someone who might be his son. The kid starts yelling in a museum or something about how all cops are racist. I’m having trouble connecting the apparent genuine drama over the beating storyline with the whole dildo thing.

The scene between Cheadle and his son goes on for-loving-ever as he calms him over the cop thing and lets his son move back in with him. Then Brody and Bell - I’m not making this up - shill Nesquik chocolate milk for a second before she shows him a wedding invitation from her ex with ‘gently caress YOU WHORE’ written on it. The invitation was also addressed to ‘Cunty Cunterson’. This is a show that largely deals in broad strokes. Bell tells Brody his company manufactures ‘a pretty sweet gently caress stick’. There is some odd flirting and then they bone.

Cheadle brings his son home and his brother has some people round who try and convince him to use his story to springboard a larger examination of race in Los Angeles. It’s given about as much thought as it takes to recite it. Cheadle kicks them out angrily and his dad talks to him about it a bit and it’s not at all interesting. Then there’s some more boring stuff where he gets yelled at and there’s only a quarter of the episode left but this is a real slog.

Glasses and Jean-Ralphio make fun of Bell for having sex and there’s more banter and then Cheadle is on the plane they’re getting on and they react to him looking all beaten and like, he was beaten!!!! and everyone is sad. Then this happens:

“You know what I do want to talk about? Cock rings. And Ben Wa balls. And dildos, and….plugs.”

He carries on mentioning sex things and eventually makes her laugh and I’m a little baffled. They talk about her boning Adam Brody and it gets somber again at the end. I don’t know that an interesting way to write about this exists. Now they’re in Vegas and some guy dressed in karate gear bitches about the Grand Canyon and laughs at Grumpy Cat and I think it turns out he doesn’t even care about the reason he made them all travel there anymore because he’s an idiot. Jean-Ralphio gambles and wins money while Cheadle kisses the other black character in the firm (who had maybe a handful of lines of dialogue and no interaction with him whatsoever before that moment) and the episode ends.

Final Thoughts:

Obviously you can’t get the whole sense of what a show is about from one contextless episode, but that whole thing just exuded a sense of...pointlessness. The plot was very slight - a lot of time is spent on Bell’s storyline, but all it boiled down to was “Kristen Bell gets laid, lol/hooray”. The comedy was very lame and never rose above childish amusement about the existence of sex toys but was overall more successful than the drama, which felt consistently forced and was never interesting to me. I felt I might have been missing something with Cheadle because he was an overly grumpy rear end in a top hat even considering the situation. Jean-Ralphio and Glasses were just there to dick around and not be funny. The product placement was blatant and sometimes bizarre - I really have to mention again that Kristen Bell and Adam Brody drink Nesquik together, and refer to it as “Quik”.

It just didn’t feel like there was any reason for it to exist. It didn’t make any use of its fairly intriguing premise, the storylines didn’t have anything to say, none of the dialogue had any sense of a personality, the actors didn’t appear to be having any fun, and it clearly has to rely on awful deals with technology and flavoured milk companies to get by, so why even loving bother? This was a dud for me.


Enjoyed the experience a lot, though. Another, please! Got a 2BG recommendation from Joe

Escobarbarian fucked around with this message at 18:02 on May 11, 2014

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Good review, but yeah, I would take the images out until you're able to fix them. They make it pretty unbearable to read.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Not to run with this and completely screw up Deadpool's running of the thread, but I'd quite like Irish Joe to recommend me a 2 Broke Girls episode for my second review.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
On it.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Desired Reviews:

Twin Peaks Season 2 Episode 22, "Beyond Life and Death"


2 Broke Girls review forthcoming.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer

Annakie posted:

I'm going to take this. Justified is a show on my "to watch" list anyway, and only 4 episodes in seems like it won't spoil things overmuch if I decide to start over / keep going.

This will probably work out better for you in the long run.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
2 Broke Girls
Season 3, Episode 14
‘And the Dumpster Sex’


So I knew a little bit more about this one going in than I did House of Lies. Kat Dennings and a blonde lady are poor waitresses who want to start a cake store like in Cougar Town and Stifler’s mom is Polish for some reason and the other major characters are all racist stereotypes in some way. It was created by the Sex and the City creator and Whitney, from ‘Whitney’.

The episode begins with the girls working in some kind of nighttime cupcake stand where their business is being driven away by a car playing loud rap music in front of the window. The blonde one wonders if they’re selling drugs and the audience laughs at the term ‘rap car’. She goes over to talk to them and Kat Dennings worries that she will get shot. Then they throw the blonde one’s cupcake back at her and she thinks she’s been shot. Cut to opening credits which is just a shot of a bridge in New York for some reason (I don’t know which one sorry).

Next scene they are working at the diner. There’s a strange black guy and a dim, short Asian man. It turns out that Caroline (the blonde one) had the rap car towed, and the Asian man gave her details to some gangster looking for her, so they all worry she’s going to get killed. Dennings is quippy, and her character is called Max. There is also an Eastern European cook, who sets up a couple lines about wiping. Eric Andre shows up, which is cool, and sets a date with Max. The scene ends with a joke about the Asian guy being short.

Max is going off on her date with Eric Andre and Caroline is freaked out about being alone in case the rap car people come back and shoot her. It turns out the Asian guy spends a lot of time on Second Life. Max says “Don’t you have to have a first life to have a Second Life?”, which I think is just about the first Second Life-related joke anyone ever thinks of. Jennifer Coolidge shows up (the audience cheers for some reason) and she makes some dumb jokes about reading an old magazine and not wanting to hang out with Caroline. I kind of laughed at her reading of the line “If you don’t want to be alone, then why do you act the way you do?” I’m guessing the reason these girls are so broke is because they have so much crap in their apartment.

From there the episode splits into two as we follow Max and Eric Andre’s date and Caroline being freaked out alone. It turns out that Eric Andre lives in a renovated dumpster on the street, which isn’t a thing a person would be allowed to do, but Max likes it and they have sex. She then leaves when it starts to get romantic, declining the offer of Chinese takeout garbage left by the dumpster. Caroline gets freaked out by car horns, barricades the door, and talks to her cat and her horse. Oh, there is a horse in the apartment. I can think of quite a few ways they could improve their financial situation fairly quickly. In the end she burns her legs with water she planned to throw on any potential attackers when Max comes in.

They go to the emergency room and there’s a weird bit about Obamacare before they talk about Eric Andre (who appears to be named ‘Deek’) and how Max is afraid of being happy. Back to the diner where it turns out the black guy is an ex-heroin addict and the Asian guy has a Second Life wife and kid. One of the rap car guys shows up and he reaches into his pocket and they think it’s going to be a gun!!!! but then it’s not a gun it’s a mixtape and he likes her what a reversal! Then there’s the line “I’m sorry my brother threw that cupcake at you. He’s gluten-free and upset about it.” which I thought was pretty cute. Caroline rejects him because obviously she could never date such a violent thug and he leaves, then Deek comes in wanting to know why Max ran out. She takes him outside and he has moved his dumpster to outside the diner. She admits she likes him and they have sex again before Caroline unknowingly has the dumpster towed, before being scared about being alone again. End of episode.

So..that was pretty lame. As is typical with most of the CBS sitcoms, there was very little plot, so it mostly focused on this light banter between all the characters, so you have to find them likeable. And in all fairness, the main duo were pretty amusing together, and Andre put in a good guest turn. However, the jokes were all horrifically lame and the most basic ‘this is this character’s personality!’ things ever. Most of them weren’t as racist as I was expecting, but every major supporting player is an extremely broad stereotype. Overall, this was dull and quite bad (but not horrendously so).


Okay, I’m down for another. I dare someone to throw me a CW thing, because I don’t think I’ve seen anything on that channel properly besides Reaper and Veronica Mars. No Arrow, please.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I'll take Mystery Spot, but also...

DivisionPost posted:

Okay, I can do that for you, OR, I can throw you a knuckleball that has the danger of opening a sort of Pandora's Box. Your call.

I need to know what this is too, so I'd like to be greedy and take both.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
I've had a death in the family and a couple of other things this past week so I haven't been able to write my review, but I have a little time now so let me try. Hopefully I won't disappoint Zaggitz too much.

Supernatural
Season 3 Episode 11
'Mystery Spot'


So this is quite a well-known and well-admired show here, hence I knew a lot about it. It's about two brothers who roam around the country hunting demons etc and tumblr ships them a lot and there was originally a five-season plan that went well but it's kept on truckin' since then still being good for the most part. And there's an episode with a racist truck and a character called the Trickster whos episodes are usually really good and fun. I also knew this was a Trickster episode.

So I turn the episode on and first I just want to say that if I hadn't known they were brothers I would have definitely thought Sam and Dean were dating from their whole dynamic. They're weirdly flirty for siblings. Dean is the dumb-looking one and Sam has this 90s heartthrob hair. Anyway they go visit this mystery spot and Dean gets killed, and as Sam is crying over his body he wakes up again in the morning. You guessed it, Supernatural goes full Groundhog Day.

The next 10-15 minutes are basically what you would expect - they try to avoid it, but Dean always ends up dying somehow, and they go through it about a hundred times. To be honest the amount that it was just totally cavalier about death made me slightly uncomfortable - "ha ha, and then he got brutally murdered again! this poo poo's wacky, y'all!" - but I get how it's funny kinda. Eventually Sam notices how one of the patrons in the diner they go to every morning changes his jam or some poo poo and they follow him and he turns out to be the Trickster, who reminds me slightly of a young Robin Williams. Up til now, the episode has been on about a solid B level. It's fun and entertaining, but doesn't appear to have much of a personality. Very generic style banter. I don't know if this is the kind of criticism zoux would complain about.

So the Trickster tells Sam that this is all about how he needs to stop giving a poo poo about his brother because their love for each other is their main weakness, and maybe if I'd seen every episode up til there it would have affected me but it just reminded me of the shipping again and how they already seem to be playing towards it in season loving three. Eventually he agrees to stop it and they wake up in the next morning FINALLY....and then Dean gets murdered by this random hobo guy from earlier and it doesn't reset.

Cut to SIX MONTHS LATER and I am officially well aware that this is all going to be reset at the end and we're in the Steven Moffat school of storytelling here. Sam is all angry and gritty and roaming the country kicking rear end while looking for the Trickster and his mentor dude is worried about him. Then they meet up and Sam wants to kill a random innocent to do some kind of spell to summon the Trickster but mentor dude thinks that's a bad idea so he offers himself but then turned out to be the Trickster anyway?? I mean if I was a trickster god convincing this guy to murder an innocent would easily be the more fun path.

So then Sam cries and begs him to reverse it all and the Trickster says no. And then Sam cries and begs some more and the Trickster says okay. So that's your resolution for ya. They wake up in the second day and Sam stops him from getting killed by the hobo and I think it ended with him brooding over it.

The episode was good and I wasn't bored, but there was also absolutely nothing that stood out at me as being especially great. Did nothing to change my opinion that CW shows are bland as gently caress and not really worth a drat. B-

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
okay, ready to tackle another episode. Got anything for me, Senerio?

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Power Rangers Dino Thunder
Episode 19
Lost and Found in Translation


This was the best suggestion I've had from this thread yet and I really suggest you go watch the original episode before you read this review.

Ok, done? Cool. Moving on...

So this was a bottle episode where three of the kids watch the Japanese version of Power Rangers on television. Yeah, you read that right. The vast majority of the episode is just an episode of the original version of the show with a dub that, while clearly played for humour, is nonetheless accurate to the plot of the episode (at least according to Senerio). And even despite the origins it's crazier than you'd expect. This is basically the Power Rangers version of Hausu.

We open on two of the Power Rangers - Ethan, basically the Dino Thunder Zack, and Kira, the Dino Thunder Kimberly, watching TV in their living room. Conner (Dino Thunder Jason) walks in and they tell him how they got a new satellite dish with over 900 channels. He kinda chastises them for wasting their time watching TV and says he has to finish a social studies assignment about comparing two countries, which is the most lazy-rear end assignment ever. They convince him to sit down and then stumble upon the Japanese version of the show, and the whole meta thing happens for a second before they decide to watch.

The episode begins with the Japanese rangers sitting around in robes making curry. One of them brings in an article about a visiting American baseball player named "Whacker Wilson", prompting complaints about American sportsmen (and Americans in general) being greedy. Conner complains about the show but the others convince him. In fact, I'm gonna save some time - most of the American scenes are Conner complaining about it, and then slowly getting into it and punching the air at the end.

The Japanese villains hatch their latest scheme, which involves bad hair in some way. One of the Power Rangers makes a fruit curry that makes another one sick, before the emergency alarm flashes. They go to fight a monster called Ka-Ching, which is (this is a direct quote) a combination of "mushroom, bear and ATM machine". The mushroom seems to be because of the bad haircut it gives to people, which makes them greedy. I didn't know you could call a bowl cut a mushroom cut, so thanks for the unnecessary info, Power Rangers. The rangers are almost overpowered but are saved by a mystery figure who uses a bat to rebound one of the monster's mushrooms back at him - it's baseball legend Whacker Wilson!

It turns out Whacker cannot play because of a back injury and he's come to Japan looking for the world's best chiropractor, who conveniently turns out to be one of the Power Rangers. He fixes him and Whacker shows off some of that typical American greed!!!! by offering him the chance to become rich, which he turns down because being a Power Ranger is reward enough. The monster attacks Whacker and makes him even greedier, and he ends up trying to forcibly push money into chiropractor ranger's hands while admitting to him how he made his fortune by cheating in a home run derby. It's pretty bizarre.

Eventually they realise the monster is affecting everyone and do battle. The monster fires coins at them but they collect it using giant safes and piggy banks (???) until they are full. Whacker shows up again with literal BAGS of money to try and give away now (for someone who has been rendered obsessively greedy, Whacker sure is charitable) which gives one of the rangers a plan. They hurl their piggy bank at Whacker, with the logic that if he really loves baseball more than money, he will instinctively react to something flying towards him by grabbing his bat and hitting it. Inexplicably, this is what happens. The monster is hurt and they morph up and finish it off.

The episode ends and Conner is like "that was cool!" and then writes his paper on the differences between American and Japanese culture, which was kind of cute. Then at the end they're sitting on the sofa again and as it zooms out tons of other kids start walking by. How many people live in this apartment?

Final thoughts: this is the kind of thing I came into this thread wanting. It was extremely odd and fun and bucked my expectations completely. The episode of the Japanese show had a satisfyingly weird plot (Whacker Wilson was loving fantastic), and the dub was funny, poking fun at the original show without ever mocking it. I recommend this!

Escobarbarian fucked around with this message at 22:10 on May 23, 2014

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Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
That was great and totally met my expectations. Good job!

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