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Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

Great White Hope posted:

Most of Wrestlemania 30 was trying desperately to salvage things after a long period of screwing up, so it should come as no surprise that with the pressure off WWE is back to doing 'eh whatever'.

The RAW the night after WM was cool and exciting and seemed like an interesting new direction.

Now suddenly we have Bryan vs Kane #590, Evolution came back, Rob Van Dam came back, Adam Rose finally showed up and is stuck in a feud with Jack Swagger, the new Divas Champion is midcarding in favor of a spillover storyline from Total Divas etc etc.

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Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

Great White Hope posted:

The Raw after WM featured a dumb as poo poo Cesaro heel turn less than 24 hours after a face turn, thus somewhat negating winning the biggest non-Bryan match of the biggest show of the year in a way that could very easily be the biggest moment of his WWE career, and a big helping of Evolution in everything but name.

Bryan is feuding with Kane because of said prior to WM30 gently caress-ups leading to there being no heels with any credibility to feud with while Cena needs somebody to feud with, as does The Shield.

There wasn't a Cesaro face turn. He beat up Swagger and that was it, unless you count him shaking hands with Big Show.

Kane also has no credibility, especially not against Bryan. Has he actually won a match in the last six months?

Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

Sanguinia posted:

Also, Kane in the mask is not the same as Kane not in the mask, I don't get why this is so unfathomable to people.

I didn't buy it when Gregory Helms did it, either.

Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

Great White Hope posted:

I want to live in a world where I'm so deluded that I think a heel staving off an assault from another heel and giving him your finisher, followed by acting very face-ish the rest of the evening is not decisive evidence of becoming a babyface.

Edit: Also Kane has something resembling credibility because it's Kane, and 'being Kane' alone puts him well above every heel that isn't Bray Wyatt or in Evolution.


I want to live in a world where i'm so deluded I think Kane has credibility, so maybe we can trade for a week?

Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

Sanguinia posted:

While you have a fair point there, Hurricane was always booked as a deluded goof rather than an actual superhero. Kane on the other hand was always booked as an actual fire demon, even more than Undertaker was an actual zombie. I think there's room for a distinction between him and Helms.

Kane was always booked as an actual fire demon.

Aside from when he was beatboxing.

Or yellng about his "Kaneanites" to Rock and Hulk Hogan

Or in Chef Boyardee commercials.

Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

Great White Hope posted:

Alright then.

Who would you choose for Bryan to feud with then? You have to pick a heel, and you can't pick Bray Wyatt or a member of Evolution. Go.

Sheamus would probably have been my first pick.

Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

Great White Hope posted:

Here's your reminder that people who complained about Orton/Cena being done to death in 2014, when Sheamus/Bryan was significantly more recent than any Orton/Cena feud, were livid at the idea of Sheamus/Bryan at WM30.

Plus, you know, Sheamus is a babyface, so way to pass that criteria too.

I don't care. Sheamus and Bryan sounds minty fresh compared to Bryan and Kane.

Also: Are you of the opinion that faces shouldn't wrestle each other and feud?

Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

Great White Hope posted:

Faces wrestling and feuding with each other should be a big deal, not a way to waste time until a real match/feud comes along, which is pretty much what Kane/Bryan is.

I will agree with you there - this feud definitely is a huge waste of time.

Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

Solomonic posted:

As a promotional tie in for Godzilla they should set up a miniature Tokyo in the ring and have Big E and Rusev fight in it.

Kaiju Big Battel lawyers are on standby.




Ahahahhah Kaiju Big Battel can't afford lawyers.

Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

West007 posted:

Last week on Smackdown I remember the announcers saying "Get ready for Bo Dallas, next friday!" Hate to break it to you but his debut is most likely going to suck as is his use.

I'm looking forward to two more months of teases followed by the debut of new dancing gimmick "The Funkaraptor" Bo Dallas.

Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.
If they wanted to kill the heel Authority angle, they could do worse than having them siding with Bryan against Brock. It would be an easy in-kayfabe jump "Bryan doesn't look like what we want from a champion but the alternative is a slab of meat with a permanent smirk painted on it whose only response to challenges is "gently caress you, pay me", so no we'll go ahead and back Beardo over here instead".

Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

Daniel Bryan posted:

Daniel Bryan vs Daniel Bryan at Summerslam. Loser must wear a mask and be renamed 'Maximum' Millard Boone.

Daniel Bryan in a mask is a completely different character to Daniel Bryan without a mask.

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Angular Landbury
Oct 24, 2011

MAGGLE.

Orgophlax posted:

Being PG and all now, I doubt any Diva that did Playboy will get in the HoF, let alone Chyna, even if she did stop doing porn.

Let's wait and see if former Chyna porn co-star Xpac gets in.

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