DCS: Now With Multiple-Threaded Process Crashing

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Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Is it a good idea to just focus on learning one plane to start? Like if I get really good at the F15C will that translate to flying a MIG or SU?

I'm guessing of the FC3 bundle the F15C is probably the best to start with as it has the advanced flight model and other fancy stuff. But I'm also interested in jumping into some cool Russian fighters.

# ¿ May 15, 2014 16:44

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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 20:33

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Vahakyla posted:

Su27 is also pretty far in development. MIG has the least amount of love in it, but is still workable.

F15C radar functions differently than the Su27. In addition the Su27 relies on a thermal seeker for ninja attacks and can fire much farther away without being detected than the F15C. They are planes of roughly equal size and characteristics, but their systems operate quite differently.

We are going to fly DCS tonight and most likely some F15Cs, if you are looking to hop in with us.

Cool I'll try and jump on later. I've taken off and landed the F15C so I can at least fly around, I have no idea about the weapons systems yet.

# ¿ May 15, 2014 18:11

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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So I made a training mission to get used to flying and using the F-15C radar. Apparently the MIG I had flying around for target practice still had it's guns and this was the result of going head on.

INTJ Mastermind posted:

Remember to drop your tanks next time too

Yep I finally figured out that key.

Here is me after taking off engaging and destroying a "friendly" C130 (I don't know the Russian equivalent transport to use) RTBing and succesfully shutting down the plane.

I used the BVR setting with an AIM-120 even though I was well within FLOOD range. It was exciting seeing the missile actually track and engage, I still need a ton of practice but it's cool to start getting an idea on how to use the radar targeting.

Popete fucked around with this message at 05:47 on May 18, 2014

# ¿ May 18, 2014 05:07

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Is the minimum range for the AIM-120B less than 10 miles? The minimum missile range bar on the HUD seems to be around that distance. That seems pretty close to me. Am I just using the wrong missile for long range engagements?

# ¿ May 18, 2014 06:10

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Is the AMRAAMs range also effected by your radar scan on launch? I had a wide scan range (120 degrees and probably a tall vertical scan), so I'm wondering if information being passed to the AIM-120 was limited due to my huge radar sweep and thus reducing it's range.

Actually maybe this is because I'm using the AIM-120 against a "friendly" aircraft in the mission I created so it will only work within fire and forget range where it requires no launching aircraft input and only uses it's internal radar for tracking after launch.

Popete fucked around with this message at 06:40 on May 18, 2014

# ¿ May 18, 2014 06:32

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Luigi Thirty posted:

I need to break open the F-15 manual and figure out how to do things other than re-create 9/11 with it. Radar is hard.

I've been following this guys videos, they are really well done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhWeVETFPN0

# ¿ May 18, 2014 17:42

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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I posted a link to this earlier but if someone wants to add this to the OP I think this is the best tutorial on using the AN/APG-63 radar on the F-15C. High production value and really easy to follow along.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhWeVETFPN0

And a link to the site with more tutorials/videos.

http://flankertraining.com/ironhand/a2a.htm

# ¿ May 19, 2014 23:19

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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So I completed the SU-25T intro tutorial.

# ¿ Aug 23, 2014 04:18

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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I'm having problems in the f-15C getting a lock onto enemy fighters that are jamming me, I see just a string of dashes across my radar but I can't seem to locate them. Just flew the second campaign mission and well there where plenty of targets I had no idea how to find them or get them into a lock.

# ¿ Oct 28, 2014 04:51

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Vahakyla posted:

Quick! Get yours!

http://www.amazon.com/Falcon-4-0-PC/dp/B00000K4KF/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1414470738&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=falcon+bms

I remembering getting this game when I was 9, my brother was so pissed at me cause it meant we wouldn't get Grim Fandango instead (parents only bought the 3 of us one game at a time). I think I still have the manual somewhere at my parents I really ought to dig that thing up, it's truly a relic of a bygone sim era and is remarkable thing to have in hand. My 9 year old self had no idea what I was doing, but I loved the poo poo out of that game.

For those unfamiliar with the Falcon 4.0 original binder.

Popete fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Oct 29, 2014

# ¿ Oct 29, 2014 04:53

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Do you know what range you would expect to burn through? When I shorten my scan to 10 miles and only a 5k vertical scan range the enemy still shows up as jamming. Does setting the distance and vertical range not make a difference? Like far off targets will show up on a 10 mile scan range?

# ¿ Oct 29, 2014 16:40

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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I know I should probably but A10-C cause everyone seems to love it but I'm more into the fighters. If for any reason I want to get into ground attack aircraft I figure the SU-25 will suffice. Or am I gonna miss out on some really cool experience with the A10-C (I do have FC3 with the A10-A).

# ¿ Oct 31, 2014 01:17

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Finally feel like I'm getting the hang of the F15-C or at least semi competent. Been trying to get through the 3rd campaign mission where you have to fly at low altitude to avoid AA and MANPADs to reach an A-50 escorted by 2 fighters behind lines. 1st try I got through the AA portion and rocketed up to ~20k feet, saw the A-50 by itself and shot it down! Jammed full throttle and gained altitude trying to get out of there as fast as possible but then the 2 escorts popped up behind me. Tried turning back to engage but I was knocked out fairly quick

Second try I make it through the AA again and rocket up to where the A-50 should be, instead I run head long into both escorts and in my panic I can't get them into scan range for a distance shot. End up switching to vertical scan and knocking out an enemy R-77 launched at me but I was quickly wiped out.

Having a lot of fun even if it is frustrating. Successfully navigating and then finding the enemy A-50 was really satisfying. It felt awesome to go from ~500 feet off the ground to 20k in a few seconds as my ECM was blaring due to all the AA in the area and the A-50 appeared just in front of me for an easy kill.

# ¿ Oct 31, 2014 03:42

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Finally getting the hang of the F15-C, but for the life of me I can't get past the 3rd mission in the "Bear Trap" campaign where you have to sneak in and take down an A-50. I can make it in just fine but end up getting swarmed with MIGs and SU-27s before I can find that drat A-50.

I really ought to play online with Goons but I don't have a decent mic at the moment.

# ¿ Nov 16, 2014 03:31

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Oh drat I totally forgot to use the TEWS to detect radar emitters like the A-50. I was having such a hard time trying to find and pick out the A-50 among all those drat Russian fighters. This should be a whole lot easier. Thanks guys.

EDIT: And I beat it finally on the first try using the TEWS, that was a lot easier. Took down 1 of the MIG escorts as well, hit the other but he somehow got back to base and landed.

Popete fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Nov 16, 2014

# ¿ Nov 16, 2014 21:44

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Sauer posted:

I also need to go on another spurge rant about using TWS mode with AMRAAMs.

Why is this wrong/bad? It's like all I use and I'm not even sure why the F15 has STT mode.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2014 04:30

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Sauer posted:

Its not bad, its awesome as gently caress!

Just watching Kilo's stream there and he's not using it. There were several Mig-29 groups he could have engaged simultaneously in TWS mode.

It has the added benefit of not lighting up an enemies radar when you launch on them. TWS 4 lyfe.

# ¿ Nov 17, 2014 04:39

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Uhhh how would you know if you're within 1 second. Also I feel like any movement you make with only 1 second left isn't gonna make a difference.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2014 02:59

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Damnit guys I just start getting the hang of DCS and everyone's into Falcon. I haven't played that since it released.

# ¿ Nov 20, 2014 04:43

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Sagebrush posted:

I get pissed off just reading it!

I basically hate all sperg simulator videos (flight sims, ArmA, whatever) except for that Australian guy who I can't remember the name of but he's cool. The rest, burn in hell.

The AN-AGP63 Radar videos in the OP that I found are awesome, the guy is not too spergy and explains things extremely well without sounds like a turd.

# ¿ Nov 22, 2014 23:13

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Can someone explain to me why whenever even one of my wheels slightly touches grass in DCS I can't move? Like I'm taxing in an F15-C and I have to get around some dumb AI who has clogged up the taxi way. I get around him but my front wheel gets off the pavement and I'm stuck. Full throttle does nothing.

# ¿ Jan 18, 2015 08:22

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Been trying to learn the SU-27, it seems a lot more complicated than the F-15 but the HUD is nice. I never realized the F-15 does auto trim, the SU-27 is constantly pulling up or diving depending on speed and my arrow keys don't seem sensitive enough to control the trim very well. The radar is pretty intimidating at first glance but I did get a kill on an AH-64 last night. Was flying low and came in to attack 2 AH-64s, I got the one then the other turned and shot a cannon round in my face. Immediately after that I was hit by a Stinger and went down in a flaming ball of Russian glory. I was beginning to suspect AA don't shoot in DCS because I had yet to actually be engaged by any.

# ¿ Jan 23, 2015 16:56

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Programming a realistic flight model is half the battle. Imagine having to gather all the data on even a single aircraft and having to model all the systems that go into it realistically. If it was easy enough there would be a replacement but most companies are going to take the easier route and just make an arcade Sim. Not to say ED isn't managing development poorly, but to even get a basic Sim out would take a small startup years.

# ¿ Jan 23, 2015 18:10

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Is the SU-27 just not as good as US aircraft in DCS or am I just incompetent? I seem to be having a much more difficult time with basic flight, the aircraft just seems to bob up and down a lot. Also are U.S missiles just that much better? I'm totally accepting if you just say I'm not competent.

# ¿ Jan 25, 2015 07:35

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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I consider myself a decent sim pilot, I've been playing sims fairly regularly since I was a kid in the 90s with Microsoft Flight Sim. Hell I've even flown some small Piper planes in real life. But I just god drat crashed the SU-27 trying to make a simple banking turn. The aircraft flipped over for seemingly no reason my pilot blacked out and I floated gently down to earth like a red leaf in fall and the engulfed in a fireball on the ground. I swear this plane is not meant to fly, it's the loving weirdest thing...

# ¿ Jan 27, 2015 05:48

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Come to think of it I believe I tried using the trim when I flipped over.

# ¿ Jan 27, 2015 16:26

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Dandywalken posted:

Gonna roll DCS tonight with a small group and need 4-5+ Goons if possible to help.

Mission is an OCA strike on an airbase. Slots are 4 A10C, 2 Su25T, 2 F15C, 2 MiG21.

Its scripted so the more planes in an area to trigger an event, appropriate responses are spawned.

Its a good mission, and we're starting it off tonight in like... 3 hours? So 9:30 EST.

Doug Funnie Fanfic is me in the 420th squadron group on Steam, add me if you're down to fly some DCS for a few hours tonight!

Oh drat I would so be on this if it wasn't Valentines.

# ¿ Feb 15, 2015 00:33

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Lockmart Lawndart posted:

How do you get hooked on this, I've found gently caress all for simulator battles.

You get get hooked on it when you realize it's not a simulator and just play arcade or historical so you can shoot down other scrubs.

# ¿ Feb 22, 2015 01:50

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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EpicPhoton posted:

Unofficial Poll: Would you play a study-sim, based on a fictional plane(s)?

Say if a game presented a near-future fighter, with a "realistic" flight profile and capabilities, but not strictly locked to a plane that currently exists, and a level of detail rivaling BMS or DCS, with study-sim systems complexity (i.e., not "push button to kill bad guy"), would you play it?

Wouldn't really grab my attention. A big part of the enjoyment of detailed sims is knowing the history and importance of an aircraft. There are just certain fighters I love (BF-109, SU-27, F15, F-16), whether it be looks or how superior/insane it was vs it's contemporaries.

# ¿ Feb 22, 2015 03:12

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ethanol posted:

I figured out the p-51. If you select the campaign from the main menu it loads up a old lovely version of the p-51 from early beta that can't trim, and is gimped on power... among many other bugs. If you load up the mission from the mission menu instead of campaign, you get a working plane.

Dear lord this game sometimes... I have to wonder what other weird poo poo is going on that causes people to just give up in frustration.

# ¿ Mar 13, 2015 23:34

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mlmp08 posted:

If I could play as SAM batteries, oh man.

I'm down to with this. I have a weird obsession with SAMs and AA.

# ¿ Jul 10, 2015 22:41

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Saying/typing DCS delays Edge by an hour every time.

# ¿ Jul 14, 2015 21:03

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Just imagine if a competent dev team made a AAA sim game with a real budget.

# ¿ Aug 9, 2015 17:57

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Buttcoin purse posted:

They'd go bankrupt?

Yeah but imagine!

# ¿ Aug 10, 2015 01:36

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Well hot drat, something to look forward to this weeknd! I just assumed it was gonna run like crap if at all and was mostly following along here for the laugh of another failed DCS update. But now I have a half way competent pretty sim to play.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 16:26

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Do all the planes work in 1.5? Can I use the bf109 or p-51?

# ¿ Oct 2, 2015 17:45

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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So it seems they fixed the Steam launcher issue, I was able to play from it last night. Also is the Nevada map avaliable? If so how do I get to it?

# ¿ Oct 3, 2015 17:26

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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Idk if I have my settings configured wrong but I cant see the fancy new smoke trails when I fire an AMRAAM in the F-15C. I wanna make sure im getting the full experience.

# ¿ Oct 4, 2015 17:02

Popete: Oct 6, 2009; This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
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What the hell kind of revisioning do they use? A text file? Branches should retain logs from the the source branch/trunk.

# ¿ Oct 4, 2015 17:33

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# ¿ Apr 25, 2024 20:33

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EvilJoven posted:

Oh my god it's like glass.

Yeah the game breaks if you try to do most anything. It seems mission creator and instant action don't work right.

# ¿ Oct 5, 2015 05:27

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