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Lord Foppington posted:drat this is perfect timing, starts right after I'm done with my finals. Looking forward to a random run, but not sure what platform to play on. PSX, GBA or iOS. I'm assuming the iOS version has the most features, but the UI and sprites are just too "clean" for my liking. I've never finished the game before so could anyone give me a quick run down of the end game content differences of the versions? I can't comment too heavily on the in-game differences but here's what I know: - PS1 version is digitally available for I think $6 and can also be played on a PSP or Vita. It has a terrible translation, however. This is the cheapest legal way to play it if you have a PS3, PSP or Vita. - The iOS version has the whole graphics quality issue which is especially problematic on an iPad (there's a pronounced separation between the tiles). It can be played in eight languages (Simplified and Traditional Chinese are the last two). $16 but maybe it'll go on sale if Square Enix tries to capitalize on the Fiesta (assuming they know about it). - The GBA version is arguably the most solid, having a competent translation, proper load times, it's portable and can be TV Outed if you get a Gamecube and a GB Player (although getting that nowadays is difficult and expensive as there are a lot of components involved, 1 or 2 of which are rare). If you get your hands on the (also expensive) European version you can play the game solidly translated into French, German, Spanish or Italian if you'd rather do that. You'd need a hard copy of the game (or a flash cart), which are pricey (especially in Europe) as they were a very late GBA release and didn't have much production. If you want to TV Out you also need a Gamecube with controller, the GB Player, the disc for the GB Player (which on its own is  ) and, if you want the best possible quality, a component cable (which is like $250 now or something ridiculous because only Nintendo ever made them, you could only get them by ordering from Nintendo's website, and they have a chip in the cable connector so bootleg cables are impossible).If you're OK with running this through an emulator or a flash cart, there's an unofficial patch which tweaks the music to sound better, although in doing so makes it mono-only, and adds in an orchestral recording for the opening music (up until the meteor crash-lands).
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On a scale of one to ten, how bad is it that FFV is like the one FF I have never played?  It's not even that I don't want to, because I really do. I've just never managed to snag this game. I feel like I am missing out on something big and exciting every time I hear about this event.
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May 15, 2014 17:15
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On a scale of one to ten, start playing the best Final Fantasy immediately.
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May 15, 2014 17:16
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In regards to the SNES version, I found that the unofficial fan translation isn't horrible. I mean, I didn't hate it. Is there anything game battle mechanics-wise in relation to the 4JF that should make me switch to the GBA release? To the guy who never played FFV, do so right away. If the game hasn't been spoiled for you in anyway, then try not look up anything prior. Unless you want to do 4JF as your first run, then shine on you crazy diamond.
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May 15, 2014 17:47
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Sneaky Wombat posted:In regards to the SNES version, I found that the unofficial fan translation isn't horrible. I mean, I didn't hate it. Is there anything game battle mechanics-wise in relation to the 4JF that should make me switch to the GBA release? I think the GBA version might fix the damage calculation bug with daggers? Otherwise, not really - the GBA fixes the Kiss of Blessing bug, so it prevents you from doing stuff like skipping Neo-Exdeath, etc.
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May 15, 2014 17:50
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Kyrosiris posted:There are no plusses aside from laughing at Y-BURNS and KARL BOSS. /Images/1-xY1STXD.png) "I thought I told you to stay out of my pool." Does the Vita's built-in screencap function work on PSOne classics? I know it doesn't work on PSP titles you've downloaded, but I've never tried it with a PSOne game.
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May 15, 2014 17:59
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Kyrosiris posted:I think the GBA version might fix the damage calculation bug with daggers? Otherwise, not really - the GBA fixes the Kiss of Blessing bug, so it prevents you from doing stuff like skipping Neo-Exdeath, etc. They added a new way to skip him instead! (But it requires Cannoneer, so you can't do it in the Fiesta anyway.)
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May 15, 2014 18:01
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Thanks for the tips! If the iOS version has been fixed then I think I'll go for that. I have FFV on the PSN, but it.. leaves a lot to be desired as you all pointed out. KARL BOSS  Else I would have done the GBA version, but I don't particularly fancy being scrunched over a computer. (I have a GBA, but no FFV). I'm just a bit skeptical to controlling the game and navigating via touch screen, but I'm sure they've made it work.
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W.T. Fits posted:
Heh, this reminds me of the wonderful (and now horribly outdated) Awful Fantasy romhack of FFVI. A FFV hack made just for the FJF would be AMAZING. Way, way too much work for a bunch of goofy injokes though.
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May 15, 2014 20:23
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If I was even remotely creative, I'd maybe think about doing something like that, but haha, me and creative ventures.
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May 15, 2014 20:25
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W.T. Fits posted:
Nope, the Vita only screencaps Vita games.
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May 15, 2014 20:32
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Kyrosiris posted:There are no plusses aside from laughing at Y-BURNS and KARL BOSS.  If you laugh at him he might attack with breath wing.
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May 15, 2014 20:36
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BloodWulfe posted:
Holy poo poo, this is the best thing ever. 
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May 15, 2014 20:37
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BloodWulfe posted:
Horrible translation redeemed.
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May 15, 2014 20:44
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TARDISman posted:Nope, the Vita only screencaps Vita games. Looks like I'm sticking with VBA again this year, then. Pity; I would have liked to be able to Fiesta on the go, but I'm not fiddling around with having to use an actual camera for a victory screencap. BloodWulfe posted:
This is beauty. 
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May 15, 2014 21:16
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I want to start my fiesta already, I'm bored today and my semester just started so I have time. 
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May 15, 2014 21:36
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EllEssDee posted:I want to start my fiesta already, I'm bored today and my semester just started so I have time. Could always do a warm-up Fiesta and just use random.org or something to generate it.  S'what I'm doing.
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May 15, 2014 21:45
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I'm just gonna get three different files up to the Wind Temple so I can start right away when it begins.
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May 15, 2014 21:53
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Kyrosiris posted:Could always do a warm-up Fiesta and just use random.org or something to generate it. Yeah aim just gonna do that, I wish my computers hdd wasn't dying on me so I can start with that. Looks like iOS iPad version for me.
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May 15, 2014 21:59
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Beat the game for the first time a couple of weeks ago and I'm looking forward to giving this a shot.
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May 15, 2014 21:59
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Looks like RK has updated the help page and we know what 2014's gimmick is: "Classic Jobs", which only uses the six FF1 jobs (Knight, Thief, Monk, Red Mage, White Mage, and Black Mage) and is an enforced Natural run. Neato. (It's also not eligible for BERSERKER RISK, which means no one is doing it for their first run obviously.) Team 750/No750 are still around from last year, as well. I've updated the OP accordingly.
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May 15, 2014 22:03
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Kyrosiris posted:I've updated the OP accordingly. Stick the berserker tree in there too.  (Check my post history in this thread if you missed it.)
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May 15, 2014 22:10
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Vil posted:Stick the berserker tree in there too. I knew I was forgetting something.
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May 15, 2014 22:14
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At least you're guaranteed one good job there. Of course, Thief/Monk/Red Mage/Knight would kind of suck, since at least the other two magic jobs could make better use of Dualcast. Think I'll skip it just because I really don't want freaking Monk again. \/ e: Nevermind, Red Mage sucks regardless. Pretty much gonna rely on Knight/Black/White Mage to carry the time. Mega64 fucked around with this message at 23:13 on May 15, 2014 |
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May 15, 2014 22:39
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Mega64 posted:At least you're guaranteed one good job there. Of course, Thief/Monk/Red Mage/Knight would kind of suck, since at least the other two magic jobs could make better use of Dualcast. Remember: Classic Jobs is enforced Natural jobs. No cross-pollinating. Ideal is probably Knight/Thief/White Mage/Black Mage.
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Thief, party time. I don't actually mind this. I forget though, what mode is it that you only roll for the crystals available jobs versus all the ones you've come across thus far? Think I'm trying to do the latter instead. Edit: random it is then. Magissa why you make everything difficult already. EllEssDee fucked around with this message at 23:45 on May 15, 2014 |
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EllEssDee posted:Thief, party time. I don't actually mind this. I forget though, what mode is it that you only roll for the crystals available jobs versus all the ones you've come across thus far? Think I'm trying to do the latter instead. Normal rolls from what is from that crystal only, Random rolls from anything you could have at the current point in time.
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May 15, 2014 23:42
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don't play the iOS version for the FJF It is programmed different so many of the programming quriks have been fixed. This means abusing the that mute sword to beat the twin tower is out. Abusing the mirage vest is out as well. I think there were a few more too. Normal play throughs are perfectly fine, but some some FJF games get hosed. A teams with white Mage as the only caster class can't get holy on the iOS version.
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May 15, 2014 23:43
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Shwqa posted:don't play the iOS version for the FJF I thought those were fixed? That's what a lot of people said on IRC last year towards the end of the Fiesta.
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May 15, 2014 23:46
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Still fucks heavily with a lot of strategies. The iOS version is really just useful for grinding JP in Castle Bal's basement with Auto-Battle.
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May 15, 2014 23:52
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I think I will try this out this year!
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Shwqa posted:don't play the iOS version for the FJF Wait, the definitive White Magic attack isn't available to White Mages? How does that even work? 
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May 16, 2014 00:57
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Thief and berserker. I guess I'm kind of glad this isn't the official one but this'll be fun.
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TARDISman posted:Wait, the definitive White Magic attack isn't available to White Mages? How does that even work? To get Holy, you have to beat Omniscient who counters any non-magic action with Return, which restarts the battle unless he's muted. He also counters Libra with Return in the iOS version, though they may have patched that back.
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EllEssDee posted:Thief and berserker. I guess I'm kind of glad this isn't the official one but this'll be fun. I beat my first run two years ago with Thief/Berserker, it's a less than ideal setup but you'll be fine. You'll be happy in the lategame when you can steal a ton of Elixirs by messing with quicksaves.
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May 16, 2014 01:15
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Yeah I'm not too worried about it, murder money train inc
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Randalor posted:To get Holy, you have to beat Omniscient who counters any non-magic action with Return, which restarts the battle unless he's muted. He also counters Libra with Return in the iOS version, though they may have patched that back. I think he was confused by the statement that white mages cant use holy on the ios version, which I am also confused by.
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Yeah, Thief/Berserker will serve you fine until you hit the Fire Crystal. Although depending on what you roll there, you have a 2/5 chance of being forced to face Byblos without access to fire damage, which will be a huge pain (but still doable).
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Fingers McLongDong posted:I think he was confused by the statement that white mages cant use holy on the ios version, which I am also confused by. You both misread then. With the bug he explained, if your only caster is a white mage, you can't beat Omnisicient and get Holy.
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neongrey posted:You both misread then. With the bug he explained, if your only caster is a white mage, you can't beat Omnisicient and get Holy. Anyone can solo run Omniscient out of MP.
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