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Samurai Quack posted:So a per-vote subsidy, only optional and targeted towards candidates instead of parties, and therefore worthless. While doing absolutely nothing to fight the spread of PACs which are the biggest problem. It's a bit like giving a flat, universal tax rebate, except in the form of democratic electoral "speech". It's a step in entirely the wrong direction-and I say that as someone who thinks Citizens United was probably rightly decided.
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Small Frozen Thing posted:pony lounge after dark He just doesn't WANT to know that he knows what it is already.
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Discendo Vox posted:It's a bit like giving a flat, universal tax rebate, except in the form of democratic electoral "speech". It's a step in entirely the wrong direction-and I say that as someone who thinks Citizens United was probably rightly decided. I'd actually like to hear your thoughts on CU and/or what you think could be done to deal with the influence of private funds dis-proportionately affecting elections.
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Samurai Quack posted:So a per-vote subsidy, only optional and targeted towards candidates instead of parties, and therefore worthless. While doing absolutely nothing to fight the spread of PACs which are the biggest problem. Case in point from their own website (which I bet nobody bothered to read before hitting donate) quote:These changes alone would not address the ability of either wealthy individuals or legal entities (such as corporations or unions) to spend unlimited amounts in political elections (a freedom secured by Buckley v. Valeo and Citizens United v. F.E.C.). Nor would they address directly the capacity of individuals or legal entities to contribute unlimited amounts to independent political action committees (“superPACs”) (a freedom secured by SpeechNow v. F.E.C.). Both of these freedoms were articulated judicially, as interpretations of the First Amendment. To change them would require either an amendment to the Constitution, or a change in the judicial interpretation of the First Amendment. Don't bother reading the fine print. Just watch this three minute YouTube video and give us money please
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Samurai Quack posted:So a per-vote subsidy, only optional and targeted towards candidates instead of parties, and therefore worthless. While doing absolutely nothing to fight the spread of PACs which are the biggest problem. he believes that most politicians don't actually want to take money from superpacs and big money but is left with no choice due to the lack of alternative. Once the citizen-funding method is in place, everyone will start using that and superpacs will just shrivel away.
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How do people not realize what a con this is? I'm starting to wonder if a majority of this money was donated by bronies because this guy was one of his own. What the hell is happening? 
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Sharkie posted:How do people not realize what a con this is? I'm starting to wonder if a majority of this money was donated by bronies because this guy was one of his own. What the hell is happening? The beginning of an all brony Congress.
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goatse.cx posted:he believes that most politicians don't actually want to take money from superpacs and big money but is left with no choice due to the lack of alternative. Once the citizen-funding method is in place, everyone will start using that and superpacs will just shrivel away. what that's retarded most politicians are already independently wealthy, if they all didn't want the money they wouldn't need it Do they really not realize that if you don't sign up with the big money, the big money outspends you and you lose? Jesus gently caress this guy is dumb
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Small Frozen Thing posted:pony lounge after dark   http://i.imgur.com/Cuak6vr.gif
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^^^ nooSamurai Quack posted:Jesus gently caress this guy is dumb I find it more surprising that this Lessig guy is dumb. I can understand some brony guy not knowing what the gently caress, but this Lessig guy should know better.
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gently caress you for linking that
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Samurai Quack posted:I'd actually like to hear your thoughts on CU and/or what you think could be done to deal with the influence of private funds dis-proportionately affecting elections. My prof in election law was Stanley Brand, and he made a very persuasive argument regarding the efficacy of the previous limit system. My own approach to election speech regulation would essentially revolve entirely around extensive, mandatory disclosure and transparency rules, which the decision explicitly said were legally viable. In practice, no one is currently willing to enact such a regime, but it's less likely to be subject to difficulty/variability in enforcement, and less problematic constitutionally, than straight speech limit systems. edit: SedanChair, you card.  Let me guess, it's my little pony porn? Based on the strong reaction, there's probably a giant penis or some effluvent involved.
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It's the future; there's no need for boundaries anymore. You should know literally everything about me. You should know that I freaked out and went to New Zealand. Here are youtubes of me mumbling to myself as I test equipment; 'n ultimately, what you ought not to miss is that a cartoon futahorse (with accurate penile sheath) perpetually leaking semen is most interesting to me. It makes my penis hard; it makes my penis hard.
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Ytlaya posted:I find it more surprising that this Lessig guy is dumb. I can understand some brony guy not knowing what the gently caress, but this Lessig guy should know better. Seemigly smart people can be surprisingly dense about stuff outside their wheelhouse. Especially academics.
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Ytlaya posted:^^^ noo Lessig isn't dumb. He'll cut himself a fee for organizing this and laugh all the way to the bank. You're right that he should know better though, but for moral, not practical ones.
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Mayor Dave posted:honestly I'd capitalize on Internet autists if I had no moral compass Isn't that basically Hasbro's business strategy for the next few years?
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You rat bastard.
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Food fills the stomach, figurines fill the heart.
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Samurai Quack posted:what boyko posted:The same way a guerilla force takes on a large invading conventional army. 1) Support of the populace. 2) Surgical strikes. 3) Well defined targets. 4) Element of surprise.
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There really should be a public service announcement to remind morons that the 300 lost
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Samurai Quack posted:There really should be a public service announcement to remind morons that the 300 lost But the movie? The guy kicked the guy into the pit and yelled? Fight in the shade?
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It's just that there's no evidence that they're clever at all. Lessig is a Prof at Harvard, and he hires this Boyko clown of all people? He has access to some of the smartest political minds that there are and he hires a guy who uses his actual given name to post in a rule 34 MLP forum?!
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quote:The same way a guerilla force takes on a large invading conventional army. 1) Support of the populace. 2) Surgical strikes. 3) Well defined targets. 4) Element of surprise. They certainly don't have 3 or 4, 2 is impossible without 3 and 5 mil limits them to a very surgical strike, and 1 is arguable. oldswitcheroo posted:It's just that there's no evidence that they're clever at all. Lessig is a Prof at Harvard, and he hires this Boyko clown of all people? He has access to some of the smartest political minds that there are and he hires a guy who uses his actual given name to post in a rule 34 MLP forum?! How did he even get into this position? Does he have footage of Lessig taking off a pony mask in some seedy motel?
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Man you can't just tell me to not click on a link like that and expect me to OH HOLY HELL
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Trig Discipline posted:Well that is something I didn't think I was going to see today. The most surprising thing about that forum is it seems like they fandom is divided between people who prefer the pony characters just drawn as humans, anthropomorphic ponies, and then identical figures from the show drawn having sex with humans/other ponies. So, here's hoping they eventually turn on each other and "hummie" fans start murdering the "anthro" fans
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ThirdPartyView posted:George, no...
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How in the gently caress is any of this real? Jesus christ. brian boyko posted:my M.A. concentrated on the journalistic impact of the blogosphere.
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SedanChair you loving lightweight.
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What did he link? Not clicking on that.
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Xandu posted:What did he link? Not clicking on that. Horse person with exposed breasts and horse penis that pulsates and ejaculates. Basically MayOne in gif format.
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The video game industry in America employs millions of Americans? Tens of thousands, ok, but millions? The great Gaming Crash of 1983 happening today would call for government intervention. edit: mis bideojuegos... Bastaman Vibration fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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Sharkie posted:How did he even get into this position? Does he have footage of Lessig taking off a pony mask in some seedy motel? He's probably doing it for virtually nothing (other than resume).
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oldswitcheroo posted:It's just that there's no evidence that they're clever at all. Lessig is a Prof at Harvard, and he hires this Boyko clown of all people? He has access to some of the smartest political minds that there are and he hires a guy who uses his actual given name to post in a rule 34 MLP forum?! It's all a scam 
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Small Frozen Thing posted:pony lounge after dark poo poo, i use reddit as much as SA and I have no idea what that subreddit is. There's a goofy rear end subreddit for any weird idea that you can come up with i guess.
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