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If you can't complain about video games in this thread of all threads, why is it here?
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Mar 22, 2020 06:18
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Crowetron posted:If you can't complain about video games in this thread of all threads, why is it here? people having different opinions than you doesn't mean they're saying you can't complain about video games in the complain about video games thread
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Mar 22, 2020 06:27
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Crowetron posted:If you can't complain about video games in this thread of all threads, why is it here? Yeah man why deprive this thread of quality posting like this Crowetron posted:Sorry to tell you this, but you hate action games and have undiagnosed schizophrenia. These are the only two reasons to criticize the world's first perfect game Doom Eternal. The only thing funnier than watching people desperately try to defend a bad game is watching people desperately try to tear down a good one.
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Mar 22, 2020 06:34
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It's looking more and more likely that Doom Eternal does not live up to the hype. This bodes poorly for Animal Crossing and RE3.
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Mar 22, 2020 06:40
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doom eternal is a great game with some flaws i don't think anyone has ever claimed it to be perfect and there are certainly things that drag it down; people discussing those things in this thread has always been within the thread's purview. people saying "no, that's not my experience" or "that's a misconception" isn't the same as telling you you can't complain about it
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Mar 22, 2020 06:45
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animal crossing is fun to read about because it's so completely its own thing that i honestly can't tell if the overall discourse for it trends positive or negative asked someone if they liked it or not and they threw a tarantula at my head while raving that i now owed them plums
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Mar 22, 2020 06:45
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Samuringa posted:On the other hand, goons tripping each other up to be the most contrarian happens every day. no it doesn't!
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Mar 22, 2020 06:50
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Overwatch Porn posted:doom eternal is a great game with some flaws I think the game was sold as a 13 when really it's more of an 8 is the impression I've been getting from this thread.
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Mar 22, 2020 06:54
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an 8 is still really good though
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Mar 22, 2020 06:57
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oldpainless posted:Not to be a one trick pony but I also have a gripe about Doom Doom 1 does the same thing constantly that's just a Doom thing
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Mar 22, 2020 08:13
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Overwatch Porn posted:an 8 is still really good though Yes. Except if it’s a Zelda game, because then we’ll come to your house and kill you. How loving dare you give it just an 8?! *scrapes his throat* The internet is going to be a dire place when Cyberpunk 2077 comes out. It has got years of hype, there is no way it’ll live up to people’s expectations.
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Mar 22, 2020 08:33
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Mierenneuker posted:The internet is going to be a dire place when Cyberpunk 2077 comes out. It has got years of hype, there is no way it’ll live up to people’s expectations. 2077's going to cause a horrible shitstorm literally no matter how good or bad it's going to be, because I feel like it's the game that's got the most vicious and self-important consumer base I've ever seen, and I honestly dread its release date. Oxxidation posted:haven't seen this kind of faintly hysterical defensiveness from a video game's supporters since DmC On the other hand, I see this recently because I don't like a single bit of a recent breakout character in Final Fantasy XIV; I genuinely thought he was so poorly-handled and insufferable that I'd come out from finishing the latest expansion saying 'well, that guy loving sucks' and get a general response of 'yeah, but at least the rest of it was fun'. I still don't get why he's popular, but I sure as gently caress know that people who like him really don't like me thinking he's an insufferable cad.
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Mar 22, 2020 09:56
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2077? I can't wait to see the blowback on Vampire Bloodlines 2. The first has 15 going on 16 years of people evangelizing it. While the second has only been announced for a couple years, the first is such a cult classic that the sequel could come with a crisp $1000 bill tucked into each copy and it would not be able to live up to the first in the minds of the fanbase.
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Mar 22, 2020 10:07
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DoubleNegative posted:2077? I can't wait to see the blowback on Vampire Bloodlines 2. The first has 15 going on 16 years of people evangelizing it. While the second has only been announced for a couple years, the first is such a cult classic that the sequel could come with a crisp $1000 bill tucked into each copy and it would not be able to live up to the first in the minds of the fanbase. I think we'll be safe from blowback if Bloodlines 2 ends up not meeting expectations, because that's a fanbase that's used to being jerked around and disappointed. They'll probably be happy with, like, a 6 or a 7 as long as it doesn't directly insult their politics (which is, you know, a valid fear with WoD of late), because at least they got SOMETHING. And if it ends up below that they'll just have a resigned 'oh well, at least we got it'. 2077's fanbase feels like they have the exact level of entitlement to really get dire, especially when you mix in how politically-charged it's inevitably going to be. They've definitely got the people who will bring the loving knives out on anyone who considers the game less than perfect, and unfortunately, the demographics to make that actually concerning and dangerous instead of just funny or sad.
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Mar 22, 2020 10:34
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Vampire fans will probably just be happy with a game that runs without community patches to fix the game breaking bugs
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Mar 22, 2020 10:44
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Overwatch Porn posted:doom eternal is a great game with some flaws Have you read the doom thread? Don't dare say anything bad about the game there. Oxxidation posted:haven't seen this kind of faintly hysterical defensiveness from a video game's supporters since DmC Dark souls, for sure. Oxxidation posted:the doom eternal thread has people accusing others of mental illness if they don't like it, so that's entertaining
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Mar 22, 2020 10:49
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reading threads dedicated to specific games is a fool's errand
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Mar 22, 2020 10:51
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Len posted:Vampire fans will probably just be happy with a game that runs without community patches to fix the game breaking bugs
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Mar 22, 2020 11:45
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Bloodlines 2 is the sequel to a 15 year old cult-classic while 2077 is the followup to one of the biggest games of the past 5 years so I think expectations are a bit different.
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Mar 22, 2020 12:33
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Cleretic posted:On the other hand, I see this recently because I don't like a single bit of a recent breakout character in Final Fantasy XIV; I genuinely thought he was so poorly-handled and insufferable that I'd come out from finishing the latest expansion saying 'well, that guy loving sucks' and get a general response of 'yeah, but at least the rest of it was fun'. I still don't get why he's popular, but I sure as gently caress know that people who like him really don't like me thinking he's an insufferable cad. Who's this?
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Mar 22, 2020 12:34
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I feel like the original Bloodlines is a game that more people have heard of than have actually played, or at least played for any real length of time. Like it shows up in various listicles all over the place, but to actually play it requires the right combination of fan patches, and even then its buggy and unfinished in places and kind of a pain in the dick. So the sequel doesnt need to be like the original so much as it needs to be like the game people have heard about, if that makes sense? I'm trying to think of a good analogy, but best I have is "Making a game called Rambo, and what people would expect from that" vs "Making a game that was a faithful adaptation of Rambo: First Blood".
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Mar 22, 2020 12:40
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SiKboy posted:I'm trying to think of a good analogy XCOM is an example of a game doing that successfully I think.
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Mar 22, 2020 12:42
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Doctor Spaceman posted:XCOM is an example of a game doing that successfully I think. That'll do fine I think, thanks! My mind went totally blank.
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Mar 22, 2020 12:56
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I'm enjoying Doom Eternal a lot so far (especially now that I've learned how crucial using the chainsaw and flamethrower all the time is. Hey have you thought about how weird it is that the chainsaw fuel regenerates haha that's not like real life at all) but I'm not a fan of all this Night Sentinel stuff. It's just a bit too... "High Fantasy", for lack of a better term, and feels out of place when there's so much of it. I think we'd be fine sticking with cults and corporations, with maybe some stuff like that as background detail. In addition, every cutscene would work way better if it actually stayed in first person, but I don't that's a controversial opinion.
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Mar 22, 2020 13:17
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what I find amusing is when a game is merely good instead of perfect and people start pointing it out to the people who got very hyped about it its always the same story of them getting really really intense about it not having problems while the people pointing out its problems are saying its still pretty good. I do find it pretty good but it feels like it needed more tweaking to be great and a writer that knew what they were doing, because if you put a decent amount of story front and center it should be at least passable. On a different but related note I had to stop playing it for now because there are two time limited events going on in two different games and while i like the Monster Hunter World stuff enough to keep playing because it feel rewarding every time i do it i dread doing the Warframe one because i know its going to feel like chores because i'm still in the phase where I stop playing so its fun to come back to later instead of work. I really do love Warframe but good god I swear the dev team lucked into 40% of the good things in the game and at least one person is dedicated to making really bad choices.
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Mar 22, 2020 13:59
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Beartaco posted:Who's this? Emet-Selch. I really just hated every single second he was on screen, and I can't fathom the concept that apparently nobody else had the same reaction I did.
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Mar 22, 2020 14:38
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Zoig posted:it feels like it needed a writer that knew what they were doing, because if you put a decent amount of story front and center it should be at least passable.
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Mar 22, 2020 14:39
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Zoig posted:what I find amusing is when a game is merely good instead of perfect and people start pointing it out to the people who got very hyped about it its always the same story of them getting really really intense about it not having problems while the people pointing out its problems are saying its still pretty good. I have fond memories of blowing up the Doom 2016 thread by saying I wish there was an option to play as a woman. Character wouldn't even have to look any different, you never see the Slayer's face and actual real life armor mashes down boobs to say nothing of suits of powered armor, and all you'd have to change is a few NPCs saying 'she' instead of 'he.'
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Mar 22, 2020 14:40
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Cythereal posted:Seems to be the case. Popular, lightning in a bottle game followed up by a sequel designed in committee by suits' ideas of what's badass and cool. I mean they ruined the mystique of the player character by making them be from an ancient race of chosen ones or something like that. Overwatch Porn posted:an 8 is still really good though An 8 is fine. The Moon Monster has a new favorite as of 15:05 on Mar 22, 2020 |
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Mar 22, 2020 14:48
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I can say with absolute certainty its even dumber than that.
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Mar 22, 2020 14:56
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Smirking_Serpent posted:i love nier automata but gently caress the map is awful Seriously. I have played so many good games with completely awful maps, and I just don't get how that happens. Does no one in development go "This poo poo is impossible to navigate"?
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Mar 22, 2020 15:06
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Len posted:Doom 1 does the same thing constantly that's just a Doom thing Was waiting for this exact post and sure enough 
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Mar 22, 2020 15:23
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Started playing Gears 4 and it really feels like the combat is happening at a range outside of what is viable for the weapons you're given.
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Mar 22, 2020 16:44
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Cleretic posted:Emet-Selch. I really just hated every single second he was on screen, and I can't fathom the concept that apparently nobody else had the same reaction I did. I feel the exact same way about Zenos. I hate every thing about the character and everyone else just loves him even though he has almost no character until the last cutscene of the expansion he's the antagonist in.
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Mar 22, 2020 16:46
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Nuebot posted:I feel the exact same way about Zenos. I hate every thing about the character and everyone else just loves him even though he has almost no character until the last cutscene of the expansion he's the antagonist in. I like Emet-Selch as a bad guy, hate Zenos. I think the difference is that Emet doesn't overstay his welcome, having the good grace to die on schedule. Where Zenos just keeps coming back again and again, and he never has anything to him but "RAR! I FIGHT HERO!"
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Mar 22, 2020 17:02
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The Moon Monster posted:I mean they ruined the mystique of the player character by making them be from an ancient race of chosen ones or something like that. They already hinted at that back in Doom2016.
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Mar 22, 2020 17:13
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Schubalts posted:They already hinted at that back in Doom2016. He’s also not from the ancient race at all, he’s the Doomguy from the other games, the ancient race just found him after he decided to stay behind at the end of Doom 64 and kill demons for centuries. But yeah, I don’t get how this is such a common complaint as a change from Doom 2016 when all the stuff relating to Argent D’Nur was in Doom 2016. The game starts with you being popped out of a weird coffin!
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Mar 22, 2020 17:17
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Well, right at the end of Doom 2016 is when I spent the most time going, "Wait, what? Who? Why?" But you could fill in the blanks yourself, and it was okay in a "Well, I guess it makes sense there's an entire hidden history I may never know..." But then Eternal shows up and it feels like fanfiction with OCs and here's what the REAL story is. Doom 2016 is Mad Max Fury Road: Lore that mainly serves to build atmosphere but it's mostly show, don't tell. You can ignore the codex entries and not feel too confused. Doom Eternal is the Star Wars Prequel trilogy where everything needs backstories and more powers and a million lightsabers and watch Yoda do backflips I promise it totally doesn't ruin his character guys To repeat, I like Doom Eternal. But it has some dumb ideas that I wish were left out. Oh, and I went down to easy mode (which I haven't done in an FPS since probably 10 years old) and I feel shame for that but it finally feels fun instead of stressful to be in combat.
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Mar 22, 2020 17:36
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It feels like it's setting up a Doom expanded universe instead of just being a simple tongue in cheek story and I hate it and I hate that everything has to be like this now.
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Mar 22, 2020 17:55
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The Riddler challenges where you have to scan something are probably what'll keep me from 100%ing Arkham Knight. Urrrrgh, yeah I get the loving riddle, I just can't find the tiny thing you want me to scan in the massive area the map says it could be in. What makes it worse is that for many of them, you get harassed by mooks the whole time and you can't bumble your way into the solution because riddles you've already solved still make 'subject obscured' or 'out of view' messages appear in detective mode even though there's no reason whatsoever you'd want to scan a riddle once it's already solved.
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