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Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

SiKboy posted:

Yeah, much as I love FO3 the good/evil karma scheme was patchy at best. its fine for some things (stealing from friendly NPCs, killing friendly NPCs = evil, giving water to people dying of thirst = good) but anything more nuanced than that then it was all down to the opinion of the quest writer what was "good" or "evil" and how good or bad it was. Not to mention that in a RPG the players motivation isn't always what it is assumed to be. If you are following the "good" quest line because you prefer the reward to the reward of the evil quest line (eg doing as much legwork as possible in the Wasteland Survival Guide questline instead of lying because she sends you interesting places full of people you can kill and plunder and because you want the full rewards from the guide) isnt really "good" is it? Because you are only doing it for a selfish reason. Crushing Moiras dreams and persuading her to give up on writing the guide (IIRC) gave you a pile of bad Karma, but no reward. A player might decide to do that to protect her from herself because she was plainly not well suited to wasteland survival, but still bad karma. Murdering random vendors is evil, but its also dumb because thats one less person to sell your poo poo to.


The only way you could ever do a "proper" karma system in a game like fallout is by doing it with a word of mouth system, if no one sees you kill that random water beggar in the middle of bumfuck nowhere you shouldn't be penalised at all, same goes for slaughtering an entire camp of people silently, if there aren't witnesses why would anyone assume it's you? If you go around machinegunning people and leave witnesses then people will talk about you for better or for worse, I don't know how stealing would work, if people see you wearing the armour you stole from them I guess they'd attack or something?

basically get rid of "you did a good thing" "You did a bad thing" just let peoples reactions and disposition to you be the karma system depending on what they know of you.

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Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Nuebot posted:

Skyrim almost does it right. Kill all the witnesses and your crime goes away! Unless you do murder, sometimes?. Murder never goes away and guards are psychic. There are also certain NPCs who, upon being killed, everyone will just know and you get a bounty, even if you teleport them to a dark, sealed void where no one could see.

That's because skyrim is poo poo, i'm sure if any other game put effort into it you might get some great emergent gameplay but not skyrim, never skyrim.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Tweet Me Balls posted:

Wild Wasteland is a trait, which was a thing in the original fallouts, and seperate from perks.

Bloody mess could have been popped back into its former spot as a trait though, I guess, since perks are a bit more valuable in New Vegas and +%damage is boring unless it also makes you gay.

Wild wasteland wasn't in the original fallouts.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Ryoshi posted:

They're not even specific, one of them is in a room full of chests and the forbidden one changes game to game.

E: but I swear there was an alternate way to farm for it as like a 1/256 drop in the late endgame.

How the hell does someone come across that in the first place? Like how does johnny average even stumble across something so immensely vague just to be able to tell everyone else about it?

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

My Lovely Horse posted:

As far as I know they specifically do that sort of thing to sell guides. Like, in the old days when video game mags had cheat sections (when there were video game mags period :() and you'd see stuff like "for a level select press this 16 step nonrepeating button combo while plugged in port 2" and you'd go "who on earth stumbled across that"; most likely given to the mag by the publisher, either as a review aid or to generate some buzz.

Ahh well that makes a lot of sense, I used to wonder how that worked when I was a kid, and yeah it sucks that gaming mags are pointless, I used to have hundreds of cheat books and guides, there was always some bullshit code as a kid that you KNEW was bullshit but you'd still try it out 50 times.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Things dragging down dead rising 2 for me : Accidentally walking into boss battles is never fun let alone if you have survivors with you, also there's one fat prick survivor later on that you find shooting zombies, he's damaged his leg so he can't run fast but he's too fat to carry so what's the most simple solution?

Put him in a wheelchair of course, except he's absolutely dead set on shooting every goddamned zombie in a 5 mile radius so you fight your way through hordes of zombies and finally grab a wheelchair, but wheelchairs don't carry over to different areas and your constantly fighting off zombies around and probably accidentally hitting him in the process.
I finally got him to the last area, put him in a wheelchair.......accidentally wheeled him into a wall because of janky controls......and he got pissed off and defected....literally yards away from freedom. Sorry for the essay just had to vent, the rest of the game is quite fun.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Kimmalah posted:

I understand wanting to complete as much as you possibly can and normally I'm all about saving NPCs, but I think this would be the point that I'd accept some people just aren't meant to survive a zombie apocalypse.

Still saved him :D The game's great it's just terrible at explaining anything, once you get into the rhythm of things and realise you're better off picking up multiple survivors instead of doing one at a time the game gets better.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

muscles like this? posted:

Every human enemy in a Dead Rising game is the worst. They're all super annoying gimmick fights.

The old milf singer in the casino is funny, but yeah the rest are bad, I've yet to finish the tiger guy.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Well I finished dead rising 2 last night, it's weird, towards the end of the game all the cutscenes feel like they went to poo poo, sound effects don't appear when they should, guns don't fire with recoil and characters stand in front of the camera and block what's going on.Also there's just not enough time to breath and explore, I know the reasoning behind the time limit but it's not fun.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
I just played dead rising 2 and i'm getting towards my second finished game, the first time through I gave the main bad guy a dose of zombrex after he was bitten by a zombie, because i'm an awesome guy like that,you fight him later as a boss and get the main (rubbish) ending..
This time I chose not to....and he ate me in a cutscene, what a load of cocking rubbish, all because the dipshit child left her stupid backpack and the stupid idiot father main character just HAD to go back and pick it up, moron.
I hate all the characters in this game so much.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Been playing Skate 3 on the 360 for about a week now, I knew it was old but apparently EA discontinued loads of poo poo like custom graphics and design stuff which sucks balls, also apparently none of the online stuff works at all, it's a graveyard.
But the thing that bothers me the most is... the game's not fun, I can't get used to these loving stupid arse controls and there's not even fun exploration to distract me, it's just boring poo poo.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Regalingualius posted:

I know I'm a bit late on the draw on this, but I've been playing MGS5 slowly but surely, and I have to ask: Did loving NO ONE on the dev team stop to think that maybe a more convenient checkpoint or save system would've been a good idea?

In particular, I'm thinking of that mission in Afghanistan where you're supposed to destroy a number of vehicles in 15 minutes. Just as I got the last one, I ended up dying during the "get the hell out" part of most missions.

I got sent all the way back to the very loving start of the mission. :suicide:

That's exactly the complaint I made but everyone bitched at me, haven't played mgs5 in ages cause it sucks, what the hell where they doing in those 5 years of development?

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Aphrodite posted:

Animating Quiet's shower scenes.

Ignoring david hayters phonecalls,trying to find the bits of the game that they lost down the back of the couch.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Nice boktai reference ;)

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Ryoshi posted:

The Skate games totally own and the controls are great when you get used to them but 3 (I think??) had the worst unfun awful world design of any game ever.

Yeah I think I picked a bad one, so 1 and 2 are better?

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Thing dragging all games down, Booklets for game suck now,it's literally two almost empty pages with controls and a website,mgs5 was the worst offender and Arkham city was close behind.

I remember in the good old days when you'd buy a game and pore over the booklet on the way home :corsair: Or better yet if you got a secondhand game you'd check the back of the booklet to see what the last owner wrote in it (usually nob drawings or a dirty phone number)

Also deus ex human revolution, I wish I could change jensens face even just a little bit, I guess it would screw up the cg cutscenes though :/

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Josef bugman posted:

I wish more games were as fun to play as Alpha Protocol. It might be broken in places but I wish there were more games just like it.

alpha protocol is proof positive that a game can be broken as gently caress but still fun, it's also the only game I've ever played where you can make the big bad guy think you're on his side, then you turn the tables on him and burn him with a killer quip before kneeing him in the balls and sailing away on a boat.


(I'm not making any of that up)

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Somfin posted:

NO loving WAY.

I specifically play all games as a naive earnest poo poo because I'm 100% positive that there's no way the devs actually considered the 'play along so as to get as close as possible to the bad guy and then loving take him down' path.

You can do it, play the game now and string the bad guy along, it is literally the best "gently caress you" moment in all of gaming history.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Sorry I should really add content, here, Sleeping dogs is really not as good as I remembered, the combat's bland and repetitive, the shooting is heavy but not fun,and the story's fyucking terrible by the halfway point and falls apart completely by the end.

Wei shen's a whiny idiot and gets everyone around him killed, Winston's ok but gets wasted literally halfway through the game and there's no buildup it happens too fast to even affect the player, Jackie's a moron and everyone else is a cliché,big smile lee literally turns up towards the end of the game, says about three lines and suddenly he's the bad guy you have to kill.

The driving's terrible and the city itself is empty and soulless, I know the game was canned and then brought back by squeenix right? Well it feels like they just left poo poo in the game without actually wondering whether it needed to be there.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Maxwell Lord posted:

And you've totally lost me here. You should eat a pork bun!

City sucks *folds arms*

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

dordreff posted:

Big Smile Lee personally appears around halfway through, when Wei becomes a Triad leader, but the game's been building to him for a long time. All through all of the earlier stuff with Dogeyes they're talking about how he's backed by Big Smile Lee, and he's linked to most of the plot missions. He's not at all out of nowhere.
The bigger problem with the story is that it's very clearly incredibly rushed, especially towards the end, and leaves a ton of poo poo unexplored and unexplained. Never addresses why Big Smile Lee apparently has a bunch of a rival Triad working for him, for example, or what happened to Ricky and Vivienne. More importantly they never really give a conclusion to the storyline of Wei getting too involved in the Triads and potentially joining them for real; they spend a ton of time on it, and then he's just suddenly a cop again and it's all good and fine. It also goes straight from finding out Commissioner Pendrew was crooked and sold you out, to finding out he's now untouchable, to... suddenly finding a perfect piece of evidence against him. IN THE SAME CUTSCENE. Very clearly like 5 hours of the game dropped there.

I think sleeping dogs should have either just been a straight up crime game with the player as a triad or just a straight up cop game (true crime) trying to do both just didn't work at all, I literally turned up at triad missions in a loving police car having mown down a street full of people, covered in blood and none of my triad buddies or the police ever gave a poo poo, there was literally no penalty at all, I know it's a videogame but jesus lol.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

StrixNebulosa posted:

My hands-down favorite thing about Titan Quest is the complete lack of fiddling to get it running. No compatibility modes, no weird hacks or patches, just booting up and telling the option screen I want widescreen windowed mode with a zoomed in hud - and then I could play.

I know GOG used to do this for old games and now they don't, but that's the biggest barrier between me and a round of, say, Doom: gotta fiddle with it.

e: X-COM is a better example. Even once you have the special launcher and it's set up, welcome to micro-management hell. No, the buttons aren't labeled.

It might be a fundamentally better game than XCOM, but ye gods the work to get there and enjoy it, from technical stuff to actually playing.

I love the idea of playing the original X-com but all those menus and things to click and manage.....i'd have a breakdown in 5 minutes.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Devdisigdu posted:

If you're thinking of playing the original X-COM I would highly recommend using OpenXcom.

Includes tooltips for battlescape buttons, Saving soldier loadouts, bug fixes etc. Much more playable on a modern PC.

I think it's just one of those games I prefer to watch people play, especially when everything goes to poo poo at a critical moment, that's why beaglerush's xcom vids were so good, he was pushing against the game and the game was pushing back.

(his newest xcom 2 videos suck though, that game looks so bad even he can't be bothered)

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Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

2house2fly posted:

The most fun way to find it out is to get shot by her

then convince her Leland won't leave her flapping around as a loose end so she ices him

then have Heck blow her away, whereupon he reveals he knew the whole time and assumed Mike was letting it slide to get in her pants

THE FFFUCK? Ok that's it, reinstalling AP right now!

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Convex posted:

Psi-Ops was terrible for this. 90% of the game was awesome mind controlling scanners type stuff, then right at the end they introduced invisible floating monsters and mines which made the game completely impossible. If you somehow stuck that then oops turns out theres no ending as they never made part 2

Still makes me sad we'll never see another one,it hasn't aged well at all but the telekinesis was way ahead of its time.

content: I just finished mafia 2 and wow it's a great game.....up until the end, I wanted to become a loving godfather don't end the game there! also it's weird that there's no sidequests in this game at all, it's literally just the main story and collectibles if you can find them.

7/10

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

John Murdoch posted:


Speaking of games getting horribly chopped to pieces. The story goes that 2K made them cut out all the fat and package it as DLC. Either way, there's a ton of references to unseen content in the files.

Ahh that seems about right, the way the game presented itself was astounding though, the city's so gorgeous and the character models are great, and going from the 40's to early 50's was wicked, it's just a very abrupt ending :[ I wanted to be rich for more than three minutes.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
This spin off game in which I slaughter thousands of cyborgs and sentient mooing robots while wearing a sombrero and saving the world with my robot dog had a really tonally inconsistent bit where this girl appeared I was like WHAAAA? a girl?

I'm joking i'm joking.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

jojoinnit posted:

I've never played a Metal Gear game before. Everytime someone posts about the gameplay in MGSV in this threads twin I really want to play it. But then somebody in this thread posts something about the story and I just can't be bothered.

Find a way to play mgs1 then play mgs2 then play mgs3 then play peacewalker, then stop playing mgs games forever because it's all downhill from there.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Inco posted:

This implies that Peace Walker is better than 3, and a good game

peacewalker has better gadgets and ending than 5,5 has better stealth and graphics but no proper ending and the story is garbo.

3 is a classic for sure though.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
I finished Planescape torment the other day for the first time and I really enjoyed it, the combat hasn't aged well but it's an 18 year old game at this point so whatever.

I bought icewind dale off Gog and holy poo poo this game is just murdering my arse at every turn, I still want to play it but over 3 days I've literally seen three areas and I've died in all of them.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Well I just finished the Honest hearts DLC for new vegas for the first time and well......that was pretty poo poo,i was just starting to enjoy it then I realised i'd seen basically everything on the map and it was basically over a mission or two after :[ crap ending as well.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Sunswipe posted:

Did you fight or evacuate from the valley?

Did the fight first, didn't like that decision (also was incredibly uneventful and boring) so went with evacuation which was mildly better but still boring, least my rewards were cool.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

scarycave posted:

Really convenient they just leave everything in a box at the end. Saves you the trouble of having to reverse pickpocket everybody.
Personally I do like the fight ending better though - as long as I can pass the final speech check anyways.

I played lonesome road as my first DLC and umm...yeeeah that one sucked more haha, at least honest hearts had a beautiful (if small) environment.
I'm playing Dead money right now and i'm enjoying it a lot, I've heard people hate the collar transmitters and poison fog but it hasn't caused me too many problems yet.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

2house2fly posted:

wtf! Lonesome Road has probably the best looking environments that engine was capable of producing, I was wandering around half the time gaping at the teetering edifices on the horizon, and at the end there's the Divide itself, a huge canyon that a city just fell into. Not to mention the places that open up if you launch the nukes at the end; finally a series about nuclear war actually has some scary nuclear impact zones.

Lonesome road just felt like a typical fallout enviroment but worse, I was constantly getting stuck on pieces of rubble (or falling through poo poo, or having enemies stuck in walls)

Honest hearts felt like I was playing fallout 1 again with all those big cliffs and and peaks :allears: I'm a sucker for deserts and cliffs.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Inco posted:

Or you could just not play Fallout 3 because it's trash and New Vegas is better in every conceivable way

Fallout 3 has awesome random encounters which nv doesn't have, but nv has fisto.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
I finished dead money last night, definitely the best one so far but I can totally see why the radios and fog hosed people off, it overstayed it's welcome, but I liked the characters and the weapons and clothes, christine was great and Elijah was believably pathetic but nasty enough as a villain.And the ghost enemies were cool as poo poo, shame you can't get their armour but from a story point I get it.


hearing elijah plead and beg over the radio at the end was brilliant, I didn't even expect that

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Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
I don't understand what's going on with all this hotdog talk,guess i'd better ketchup.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
New vegas pet peeves, Benny is such a missed opportunity, matthew perry sounds like he's in a coma and the character model sucks, i'm trying to change it in the geck but he keeps on looking like an alien with fetal alcohol syndrome.

Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?

Sunswipe posted:

Getting Caesar to crucify him was pretty sweet, though.

I'd really like to make him look like a young frank Sinatra but that's like trying to recreate a picture perfect mona lisa out of pubes and ham.

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Brazilianpeanutwar
Aug 27, 2015

Spent my walletfull, on a jpeg, desolate, will croberts make a whale of me yet?
Whenever I get an urge to play dishonoured again I stop myself because i'll never be as good as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKyT19o-Nl8

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