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Ixtlilton
Mar 10, 2012

How to Draw
by Rube Goldberg



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Meinberg
Oct 9, 2011

ICE-MEIN



Same.

According to the A.V. Club, that scene was to highlight humanity's inherently violent nature, that we must keep at bay through our higher reasoning and logic.

Maybe Tremendous Taste is right after all?

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006



My scum picks are still accurate. Please follow my wisdom if I die.

Follow it if I live too, but at least then I'll be there to press it.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

the cyberpunk dystopia is now
you are not the runner


Clever Betty

oh gently caress i thought i was voting meinberg goddamn it, forgot about having to unvote. anyway looking at meinberg's last few posts his motivation for voting jakep again is pretty goddamn waffles (grandicap, ), and his actual post where he votes jakep reads like he's trying to stifle discussion while pretending to invite it. finally now he's trying to deflect conversation to "maybe there isn't scum" and I don't like that play at all. ugh.

Meinberg
Oct 9, 2011

ICE-MEIN


Captain Foo posted:

oh gently caress i thought i was voting meinberg goddamn it, forgot about having to unvote. anyway looking at meinberg's last few posts his motivation for voting jakep again is pretty goddamn waffles (grandicap, ), and his actual post where he votes jakep reads like he's trying to stifle discussion while pretending to invite it. finally now he's trying to deflect conversation to "maybe there isn't scum" and I don't like that play at all. ugh.

Nah, I'm sure there is scum. I just feel bad about being a part of the group that lynched our doctor. That said, avoiding a no-hang is likely for the best, and no real targets emerged other than Jake, and I'll acknowledge that the case on him was flimsy at best. Flimsy, though, is better than nothing.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

the cyberpunk dystopia is now
you are not the runner


Clever Betty

sweet 180 bro

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006



Oh, look, Meinberg and Asiina are still the scum. I am right about everything.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006



Meinberg posted:

Nah, I'm sure there is scum. I just feel bad about being a part of the group that lynched our doctor. That said, avoiding a no-hang is likely for the best, and no real targets emerged other than Jake, and I'll acknowledge that the case on him was flimsy at best. Flimsy, though, is better than nothing.

Like, really. This is a horrible post. Feigned sadness, while trying to paint it in a good like on the other hand, while not actually using the info from the merk to further another case.

There was another, drat good, target in Asiina, she was at -2 and entirely plausible.

And then distancing himself from the merk in the next breath.

Dude is scummy.
Strike that.

Dude is scum.

If I am alive tomorrow, there will be a vote on Meinberg that will be very unlikely to move for the duration.

Jonathan Fisk
Sep 6, 2010


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the fact that there is a doctor implies that a killing role exists. I'm willing to crack on the no-scum theory but if you've got a town vig I'd ask you to hold it.

Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?


Hell Gem

Meinberg posted:

Nah, I'm sure there is scum. I just feel bad about being a part of the group that lynched our doctor. That said, avoiding a no-hang is likely for the best, and no real targets emerged other than Jake, and I'll acknowledge that the case on him was flimsy at best. Flimsy, though, is better than nothing.
Ya this is pretty bad

EccoRaven
Aug 15, 2004

there is only one hell:
the one we live in now


Kids, did I ever tell you the story about what I had for breakfast?

Eggs! Heh heh heh.



No memory was forgotten during the night.


It is now Day 2
With 8 alive, 5 votes to be forgotten
Day 2 deadline: let's say Wednesday night.

Jonathan Fisk
Sep 6, 2010


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yo

Retro Futurist
Aug 8, 2007

Yesterday's Tomorrow,
Today!


TT, are you scum?

Retro Futurist
Aug 8, 2007

Yesterday's Tomorrow,
Today!


I have reason to believe scum withheld their kill last night, but the question is did TT do it himself, or did scum do it to frame him?

Jonathan Fisk
Sep 6, 2010


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Or, you know, I'm right.

Jonathan Fisk
Sep 6, 2010


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Gimme whatever possible role could tell you scum withheld a kill and I'll give you my vote.

Retro Futurist
Aug 8, 2007

Yesterday's Tomorrow,
Today!


Not a role. Mod error. I feel bad exploiting it though

Jonathan Fisk
Sep 6, 2010


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Opopanax posted:

Not a role. Mod error. I feel bad exploiting it though

Well, now that you've let it out you might as well not half-rear end it.

Ixtlilton
Mar 10, 2012

How to Draw
by Rube Goldberg



Opopanax posted:

Not a role. Mod error. I feel bad exploiting it though

If there was actually a mod error you've already exploited it by mentioning it at all, so you might as well go all out.

Jonathan Fisk
Sep 6, 2010


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Ixtlilton posted:

If there was actually a mod error you've already exploited it by mentioning it at all, so you might as well go all out.

Retro Futurist
Aug 8, 2007

Yesterday's Tomorrow,
Today!


Too many variables and now that I'm running it through my head I may have misinterpreted something. I will sleep on it

Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?


Hell Gem

Meinberg was saying there is no scum.. hard to see who could benefit more than him by withholding the kill.

Jonathan Fisk
Sep 6, 2010


POSTING
Champion
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hey you know how to not let scum benefit if they exist


##vote no murk

Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

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to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?


Hell Gem

Good idea..

##vote no merk

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006



##vote Meinberg

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006



EccoRaven posted:

Kids, did I ever tell you the story about what I had for breakfast?

Eggs! Heh heh heh.



No memory was forgotten during the night.


It is now Day 2
With 8 alive, 5 votes to be forgotten
Day 2 deadline: let's say Wednesday night.

There are plenty of reasons for no kill last night, even with a dead doctor. Jumping to the conclusion that there is no scum. Especially with only 1 point of evidence, is silly. Stop being silly.

It could be poison, could be a BP was de-BP'd. Could be a roleblocked kill. It could be a withheld kill. What do we have to gain by no-hanging at this point in the game? Even if this is a game about not destroying an old lady's mind, we can wait for a couple more missing night kills to come to that conclusion.

In summary, don't be dumb. Especially when Meinberg is scum.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006



Tremendous Taste posted:

hey you know how to not let scum benefit if they exist


##vote no murk

How is withholding our only way to combat the scum a good idea? How do you propose we win this game, or get any useful information if we sit on our asses all day. I guess if there is an investigative role (that isn't tracker or watcher because everyone is sitting at home with their fingers up their assess), we could eventually get something. But something has to move the state of the game forward.

I have a friend who plays games like this. He claims a win if the other party concedes. So he will start a game of chess with someone, if he is losing he pulls out an apple and eats it slowly. Ponderously slowly. Eventually it is no longer fun and you concede.
The end result is noone plays games with him anymore.

That is what you are suggesting TT, and agreeing with Juanito. Sucking the fun out of the internet party game, by, when given options on what to do, you lie there like a dead fish.

Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?


Hell Gem

I don't think a no-merk is such a bad thing.. we don't have to do it forever. But why not survive while we can. I'm sure there are people doing night ~actions~ so there will probably be useful information.

I really don't mind voting Meinberg, but since nobody has died, he doesn't seem like a big threat.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

the cyberpunk dystopia is now
you are not the runner


Clever Betty

##vote meinberg now, I am dubious regarding no-scum and last night's no kill hasn't done anything to dissuade me of that.

Juanito you say meimberg isn't a threat, but how can you tell? Reads like you're trying to deflect votes off a scumbro

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

the cyberpunk dystopia is now
you are not the runner


Clever Betty

I.e. if you don't mind voting him you should have voted him instead of a weird call that he doesn't seem like a threat or w/e

Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?


Hell Gem

Scum isn't a threat as long as they aren't killing anybody.

Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

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to what you just said.

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Hell Gem

You're trying to put a spin on my words.

But hey don't worry, you voting for Meinberg early shows everybody that you are super town for sure.

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back


Grimey Drawer

They are a threat long term though, even if they didn't do anything this round for one reason or another.

Why give up the chance to get an extra shot at them?

Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

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in a more interesting way?


Hell Gem

True, as long as we're sure we're not going to vote another town PR.

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006



Juanito posted:

Scum isn't a threat as long as they aren't killing anybody.

Town can't win if they don't vote.

Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?


Hell Gem

Yeah, my thought is that there are night actions happening.. probably someone investigating people. So people will probably be cleared. But I'm okay voting scum.

But if Meinberg flips town cop...

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006



Juanito posted:

Yeah, my thought is that there are night actions happening.. probably someone investigating people. So people will probably be cleared. But I'm okay voting scum.

But if Meinberg flips town cop...

THis is a 9 player game.
A doc already flipped.
There are likely only 0-2 more town power roles probably no more than 1 of which would be investigative.
At worst, there is a 25% chance of hitting a power role. The same as the chance of hitting scum. That should not dissuade you from placing a vote.

Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

I wasn't paying attention
to what you just said.

Can you repeat yourself
in a more interesting way?


Hell Gem



This is the OP currently.

I've been a willing pawn in Ecco's experiments too many times to trust him in a game revolving around dementia.

So we vote Meinberg. What if he flips town? What's the plan if there is no nightkill again?

Grandicap
Feb 8, 2006



Until we get to 6 or so people I won't consider not voting as a good use of time.

Why did you join if you weren't willing to mafia?

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Juanito
Jan 20, 2004

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Hell Gem

Feeling bad about JakeP

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