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 What? Welcome to a PbF game of Chaos in the Old world. In this game 4-5 players will take the up mantle of the Chaos Gods in the Warhammer universe, all vying to be the one who ruins the Old World once and for all. If you haven't heard of Warhammer, thinking of them as the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse (and a huge, deformed Rat, with the expansion) laying waste to Medieval NotEurope would more or less work. It's worker placement with demons and "take that" cards. The four (or five) gods are pretty different from each other, in powers, objectives and design philosophy: Khorne wins by killing other god's stuff and being VERY ANGRY, Slaanesh needs to be present in places with high ranking humans (nobles and heroes), Nurgle loves high density areas because they makes diseases spread faster and the Horned Rat just swarms the board with, appropriately, rats. Tzeentch is just a dick. Resources Basic rules are here and the rules for the expansion are here. The rules for the expansion are basically two paragraphs, so don't worry about having to get through a lot of stuff if you're new. While there is a Vassal module, the expansion is not included and the map can get pretty crowded with pieces (like the boardgame itself, good job there), so we'll be using a map from BGG:  Recruiting I'm looking for 4 or five players who can check the thread at least once a day. If we have enough interest we'll add the Horned Rat and vote on whether or not to include the rest of the expansion stuff. If we don't have four players we're not playing because this game must have four players, at least. New players are welcome, no PMs necessary. We'll be using http://handtracker.heroku.com/ to handle cards. Signing up is pretty not-intrusive, just pick a name and a password. To sign up, please reply with Blood for the blood god or some variation thereof, because I'm literally ten and find it funny. Recruitment open for at least 24 hours.  Board StateLatest "official" Board post is here. And some helpful things. Dial ticks Khorne gets one Dial Advancement Counter each time he kills one or more figures in a Region Nurgle gets one DAC when he places 2 Corruption tokens in a Populous Region in a single Phase. Tzeentch gets one DAC when he places 2 Corruption tokens in a Region with a Warpstone token or a magic symbol. Slaanesh gets one DAC when he places 2 Corruption tokens in a Region with a Noble or Hero token. Horned Rat gets one DAC when he Dominates a region with a Skaven token. Gods Cheat sheets Khorne Nurgle Tzeentch Slaanesh Horned Rat Fat Samurai fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Aug 21, 2014 |
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May 18, 2014 23:17
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You know what sure I see people posting about in in the board game thread why not give it a shot. Blond for the Blonde God
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May 18, 2014 23:29
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I'm in! Looks Bond for the Blonde God.
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May 18, 2014 23:38
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I don't think I'm a bad enough dude to play two internet games of Chaos at the same time, but it'll be fun watching this thread to see how another game goes. Have fun guys!
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May 18, 2014 23:50
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I'll give it a go, but not sober. Bud for the Bud God!
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May 18, 2014 23:54
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Bugs for the Bug God! This'll be my first time, so please be gentle.
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May 19, 2014 00:32
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I had fun the one time I played, though it was the base game so Ticks for the Tick God!
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May 19, 2014 01:37
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I'd like to put my name in the hat. I've got the game and expansion at home, but I haven't gotten to play it in a while. Blood for the Blood God!
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May 19, 2014 02:00
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Who needs to read rules when I've got Rats for the Rat God! (I'll read them fully later since I've never played this game; just wanted to log my interest.)
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May 19, 2014 12:55
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I'll probably write a small premier for each of the gods intended for completely new players. I'm not a good player by any stretch of the imagination, so take it as you will.
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May 19, 2014 13:10
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I think "be a total dick to the other gods" should pretty much cover all the important points 
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May 19, 2014 14:32
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The Supreme Court posted:I think "be a total dick to the other gods" should pretty much cover all the important points Were playing the literal personifications of chaos and ruin (and a giant rat) that's a given.
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May 19, 2014 14:45
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Signups are closed. Sorry to anyone who didn't get in - I will probably run another game after this if there's still interest, and I'll give you a call if someone drops. Anyway, our players are Rumda, The Supreme Court, Alris, MetricUnit and Green Intern I'm going to need a couple of things before we start this for real: a) Please sign up at http://handtracker.heroku.com/ and post me your username, so I can add you to the game and give deck permissions. b) Do you want to add the expansion stuff? The Horned Rat obviously can only play with the powers and upgrades off the expansion, but the base Chaos Powers can either use the base cards or the expansion set. The sets are balanced against each other, so all players have to agree on either older or newer set. c) The expansion adds some new cards to the Old Deck. They are way harder on the Chaos Powers than the normal stuff and general consensus seems to be that they make the game more swingy. I've played both with and without them, and prefer the game without them, but it's your call. d) Do you want to play a particular god? Or do you want random god selection? I'm taking the base game/random god selection as the default, in case we cannot reach an agreement in any of the questions above.
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May 19, 2014 22:31
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Handtracker name is the same as here. No preference when it comes to the other stuff as it's all new to me anyway.
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May 19, 2014 22:47
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Base game with random gods is what I'd prefer. If we're going for picks, I'd definitely go for Tzeentch. Hand tracker name is the same as my username here. Thanks for letting me play! The Supreme Court fucked around with this message at 23:45 on May 19, 2014 |
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May 19, 2014 23:43
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Well I'd prefer the base card set and random gods, Handtracker name is same as here
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May 19, 2014 23:47
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Handtracker name is GreenIntern. I'm a total newbie at this game, but it sounds like Expansion Stuff, but without the New Old Deck Cards is a decent selection that isn't too random/swingy? If I was going to pick a god I'd go for Horned Rat, because swarming the land with
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May 20, 2014 04:21
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Signed up using MetricUnit. No preference on which set we use, random gods sounds good for me.
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May 20, 2014 04:39
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It seems we're going Random Gods, which was strongly preferred, and Basic powers and upgrades, on which there was little preference, but which I prefere because it means that I'll be slightly less likely to mess things up. Let me roll some dice: - Khorne: Green Intern - Nurgle: Alris - Tzeentch: Rumda - Slaanesh: The Supreme Court - Horned Rat: MetricUnit I'll be posting updated maps as often as I can, but both to help me and the other players, try to post your moves in a format similar to this: pre:Playing Bloodletter in Norsca Khorne (Green Intern) Power: 5/7 Cards in hand: 4 Cards in Deck: 14 Cultists: 2/4 Warriors: 4/6 Greater Daemon: 0/1 Threat: 28 Upgrades: Cultists, +1 Power Norsca: Tokens: Peasant Corruption: 4 Nurgle, 2 Tzeentch, 1 Slaanesh Units: 3 Tzeentch Cultist, 3 Slaanesh Cultist, 1 Khorne Warrior Card Slot 1: Battle Cry Card Slot 2: Changer of Ways I'm going to be out of town until Thursday, because my boss is psychic and likes to wreck my plans, so first "real" post will be Thursday night (GMT time). In the meantime I'll write a small strategy blurb for each god so you can
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May 20, 2014 11:43
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 Draws for the Card God! Decks for the Deck Throne! 5 Cards drawn. I'm already seeing hideous synergy in my victory conditions/cards! Is there any way to set it so we can select how many we will draw? I don't know how often we'll be drawing large numbers of cards, but it's a little obnoxious to click draw, return to the main page, and repeat for each card. Also, no problem on the Thursday/Friday start date.
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May 20, 2014 12:20
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Green Intern posted:
Judging from the power sheets the rest of you will be drawing two each turn while I'll be drawing to five. Also Fat Samurai you've put Tzeentch's deck in twice. Edit here is a link to the powers sheets if any one wants them http://boardgamegeek.com/file/download/7vqkw57hz1/Citow_Power_Sheets_v2.doc Rumda fucked around with this message at 12:38 on May 20, 2014 |
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May 20, 2014 12:34
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 Cards drawn, I'm ready to make all of you explode with jealousy. Thurs/Fri start is fine with me.
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May 20, 2014 12:48
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Thanks for the sheets!
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May 20, 2014 12:55
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Rumda posted:Judging from the power sheets the rest of you will be drawing two each turn while I'll be drawing to five. Also Fat Samurai you've put Tzeentch's deck in twice. Both of these statements are correct. Fixed. Khorne has some stuff to help him draw faster, but in general it's two per turn.
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May 20, 2014 13:17
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 Cards are drawn, gonna study the rules for Thursday!
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May 20, 2014 13:35
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Now I'm confused. Should I have 5 cards or 2 cards? How can I reset my deck if it's the latter?
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May 20, 2014 13:45
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Green Intern posted:Now I'm confused. Should I have 5 cards or 2 cards? How can I reset my deck if it's the latter? Everyone starts the game with 5 cards, at the end of each turn, draw two more. Tzeentch, being the god of magic and change, can discard and draw up to 5 each time.
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May 20, 2014 14:10
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Fat Samurai posted:Everyone starts the game with 5 cards, at the end of each turn, draw two more. Tzeentch, being the god of magic and change, can discard and draw up to 5 each time. Until I upgrade at least
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May 20, 2014 14:20
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That's not going to happen 
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May 20, 2014 14:27
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Alright. I was feeling a bit dense this morning, apparently. I look forward to greasing my threat dial with the blood of my enemies.
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May 20, 2014 14:36
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Reading through the rules today, I noticed this particular Game End condition. If any Old World cards remain face down in their deck when the game ends (presumably from someone rushing VP or Threat?) then everybody loses. So that's a pretty great way to discourage runaway players, I guess.
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May 20, 2014 20:31
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Green Intern posted:Reading through the rules today, I noticed this particular Game End condition. If any Old World cards remain face down in their deck when the game ends (presumably from someone rushing VP or Threat?) then everybody loses. Anyway, pretty interested to see where this goes. I love me some Chaos.
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May 20, 2014 21:20
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Wait, what? Where in the rules does it say that? The only time Old World cards have anything to do with the game ending is if you run out of them, in which case everyone loses. You can win the game at any point if you meet one of the victory conditions.
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May 20, 2014 21:32
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Wait, what? Where in the rules does it say that? The only time Old World cards have anything to do with the game ending is if you run out of them, in which case everyone loses. You can win the game at any point if you meet one of the victory conditions. Once again, I misunderstand something (although I think it could have been stated clearer)  This is from the final page of the core rules: pre:Game End Conditions First, check the Threat dials. If any player’s dial shows “Victory!,” that player wins. (Ties broken by victory points.) Second, check for 50 victory points. If any player has 50+ victory points, that player wins. (Ties broken by Threat.) Third, check whether five regions are ruined. If this is true, the player with the most victory points wins. Finally, check whether any cards remain facedown in the old world deck. If not, all players lose.
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May 20, 2014 21:43
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Ok, we're up. I messed up (already) and forgot that Tzeentch could discard 1 card before drawing up to five, but I don't think it's going to matter much. Rumda, it's all right to discard one of your cards and draw a replacement if you want. Anyway, game's officially UP! I've set up the board and drawn the first card of the Old World Deck: quote:The Crusade Is Come - Place one Peasant token in each of two different regions. Then place one Hero token in each of two different regions. Then place one Noble token in each of two different regions. - Discard this card instead of adding it to the Old World track. As the player with the lowest Threat, Metric Unit get's to place that stuff. Have a map of the board after set up:  I'd recommend to any new players to take a look at the other god's powers, and think about how the other players are more likely to win, either via VP (which usually mean cheap figures, easy ways of getting dominations or expanding corruption) or Dial (easy ways to double tick or a short track). I don't have a list for the expansion, but the rat has a lot of cards that give him advantages in dominated regions (such as moving his troops for free, or giving them extra defence or making it more expensive to drop enemy figures there) or ways to move skaven tokens around. MetricUnit, tell me where do you want your tokens
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May 22, 2014 22:30
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And we're off! Looking forwards to
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May 22, 2014 23:54
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Oh god I don't know what I'm doing ##Place 1 Peasant in the Empire and 1 in Estalia (I have no idea what peasants do besides get killed in fights?) ##1 Hero in the Border Princes, 1 in Kislev ##1 Noble in the Badlands, 1 in The Empire
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May 23, 2014 00:37
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MetricUnit posted:Oh god I don't know what I'm doing Quick and dirty Chaos for Dummies post. This is highly opinionated and probably wrong, so I'd suggest you head to the Game Thread for better tips. We have another game going on in here, so you can see the Gods in action. Spoilered just in case you want to figure stuff up yourself: Khorne You should focus on dial advancing. Your advance condition is the easiest of the bunch, with your 2 attack warriors and some cards that do direct damage. In the early turns you're basically untouchable, as most of the players will be deploying cultists while you put down warriors. That said, playing Khorne requires a little more subtlety than expected: You're going first, have very few delaying options and your opening moves usually cost you twice than those of your opponents. That means that, more often than not, you’re committing way earlier than the other players. This may lead to players GTFO as soon as you arrive in a region. Another thing: you’re the police in this game. Stomping on a single player repeatedly (Nurgle is tempting) will lead to any of the other three to run away with the game. Make sure everyone is paying Khorne’s tax and spread the love as much as possible. Guessing where people must be, or playing some cards that hinder movement are two of your options. If everything fails, you have six warriors to plop down, and that gives you pretty good coverage. If you’re doing well, the Old World deck will be against you. Nurgle You won’t win by dial. You have plenty of miniatures and cards geared towards domination, so swarming valuable regions with a green wave is kinda what you do. Delaying ruination so you can squeeze more points out of a valuable region may be helpful sometimes. Your main weakness is that every other player will know where you’re going to go. Those 3 populous provinces are your bread and butter, and you lack Slaanesh’s defense or Tzeench’s magic, so you’re the easiest target for Khorne. On the other hand, while your warriors are crappy they cost the least of the game, so don’t be afraid to drop a few of them in order to make Khorne (or other players) pay, or disrupt a Dial Advancement opportunity. Tzeentch I’m even worse at this than the other gods, so not much help here. You can win both via VP and Dial Advancement, and you’re usually considered an annoyance rather than a direct threat, which means you can do your own thing and not be bothered much. Your game is board manipulation, both regions and players. You have the most cultists, so potentially you have the biggest corruption score, and can create your own ticking opportunities with magic symbols, as long as you can prevent other people from punching you in the face. Your hand is the best, both because your discard ability and the card themselves. Teleport can give Khorne fits, your Dispel can give everyone else fits and there is no better way to stop people bothering you than Field of Stasis. Combat should be a last resort, and deploying your Great Demon is quite often a Bad Move. Slaanesh You depend a lot of board state, because up until you get some defenses your chances of dial advancement are limited (usually only 2 regions, one for each noble, and even after that you only have 6 cultists). That Old World deck was pretty lucky for you, though. Slaanesh can win both via points or dial (you have the shortest dial win, only 7 moves). You can claim turf relatively easy, with DEF 2 warriors and upgradable cultists. On the other hand, the game will force you to move quite often, as noble or hero tokens in Ruined regions are worth exactly squat. Try to predict what region will be ruined and use your cards to move the tokens you’re interested in away from it. While you’re not Tzeentch, you have a couple of dick moves in your hand: Taking control of a cultist at the right moment or preventing combat in a region can prevent or give you a Dial Advancement, a ruination or a domination. Going last helps a lot with this, but generally Tzeentch has more delaying opportunities. Unlike Tzeentch and Nurgle, if you’re doing well, it shows, so expect to be the target of Khorne, Tzeentch and the Old World deck. Horned Rat Again, little to say here. You have the luxury of choosing which regions are valuable to you, via Empty the Warren cards, and have quite a lot delaying cards and plenty of cultists, so you can choose where to focus your efforts late in the turn. If the other players let you gather your pieces you can start piling up dominations and ruinations using your mass of rats AND mobility cards that let you move stuff around very cheaply. Focusing on lower value regions where no other player is interested can give you cheap ticks, or force players to spend resources to stop you. In the other game we’re playing, Corbeau has managed (with some help from the Old World deck) to cover the world with Skaven tokens by turn 3, which gives him plenty of opportunities. General stuff: - Playing a card in the first spot of a region is a dangerous move, because Tzeentch can remove it on a whim. - Playing it on the second available space, however, makes it a very stable (or at least predictable) region. - Letting Khorne run rampant will win him the game. Sometimes is better to stay and fight so he has to pay 2 power to put back his warrior, which is paper-thin anyway. - Delaying important decisions by playing low cost cards or cultists is vital. Don’t throw them away just because they are 0 value, though. - You can take a figure from the map and redeploy it in an adjacent region, even if you haven’t got any other figures nearby. The figure that you’ve just removed still counts as having a figure in the original region. - For most players (not Nurgle, don’t know about the rat), the cultist upgrade is very good. Fat Samurai fucked around with this message at 10:47 on May 23, 2014 |
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May 23, 2014 10:08
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Green Intern, your turn. It would help me if your post format was something like this:pre:Playing Bloodletter in Norsca Khorne (Green Intern) Power: 5/7 Cards in hand: 4 Cards in Deck: 14 Cultists: 2/4 Warriors: 4/6 Greater Daemon: 0/1 Threat: 28 Upgrades: Cultists, +1 Power Norsca: Tokens: Peasant Corruption: 4 Nurgle, 2 Tzeentch, 1 Slaanesh Units: 3 Tzeentch Cultist, 3 Slaanesh Cultist, 1 Khorne Warrior Card Slot 1: Battle Cry Card Slot 2: Changer of Ways
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Newbie advice: put your cultists in the sea, give me your power points
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