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ickna
May 19, 2004




Soiled Meat

Hubis posted:

Alright, cool. ESPHome is one of those things I keep seeing mentioned but hadn't dig into much yet. Sounds like I'll give it a look and take the plunge...

Took a look at the ESPHome after seeing it come up here and it looks like it would be better for a self-contained setup if you aren't going to use a home automation system. Did you see this while you were researching?

I'm still partial to Tasmota personally since I use OpenHAB with MQTT, and I'm not a huge fan of YAML.

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Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell



ickna posted:

Took a look at the ESPHome after seeing it come up here and it looks like it would be better for a self-contained setup if you aren't going to use a home automation system.

ESPHome is perfect for usage with Home Assistant.

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...

Cool, I'll give Tasmota a look too.

ickna posted:

Did you see this while you were researching?

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
And now the whole nation - pulpit and all - will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open.

For those who are in the homekit environment, who have been trying to find a way to automate things based on temperature, this works now: https://apple.news/AO1M9J15ISfyFMloy_TBo3g

It didn't work for me last time I tried to use it like a year ago, but it works now. Now that it works, I'm not 100% I'm sure I want to keep using it, it was more a thing I really worry about before the apartment I live in turns the AC on every year, but I guess it's nice to know it's working. The eve app is a bit much, but once you set the rule up in there, you can at least tweak it a bit in Home, even though Home doesn't offer you the option to set triggers based on temp for at least the temp sensor I have (I guess it works fine for thermostats).

ickna
May 19, 2004




Soiled Meat

Thermopyle posted:

ESPHome is perfect for usage with Home Assistant.

Agreed, it is tailor made for that. To clarify, I was stating that it would probably be better suited for standalone use than Tasmota, if Hubis didn't want to use a home automation system like Home Assistant or OpenHAB.

Mandatory Assembly
May 25, 2008

it's time to get juche


Lipstick Apathy

I want to take the plunge into home automation (I'm in the UK if that makes a difference) and I'd love a bit of advice.

The kind of stuff I want to be able to do is reasonably basic, I think:
  • regulate thermostat settings for three different zones in the house (and schedule radiators to come on and off)
  • turn lights on/off automatically and set up different lighting modes
  • detect if doors or windows are open


From what I've gathered, Home Assistant would be able to do this very easily but I'm a bit intimidated by it: I can code a little but I'm not a pro or even much of a hobbyist. Will Apple Homekit be able to centralize all of this into one UI for me pretty painlessly? What are the drawbacks of going with Homekit?

Cornjob
Jun 12, 2007

NOT AN ACTOR


Is there any way to execute alexa routines via a button push, rather than opening the alexa app and navigating the alway re-sorting list of routines? Voice control is nice sometimes, but theres also alot of room for error with voice control.

I just want all my favorite routines as indavidual icons on my phone. It seems as thought this would be a simple fix for amazon if they added “favorites” page, or allowed home screen widgets.

I know echo buttons are a thing, but they kinda suck.
I tried home assistant but its over my head. And it doesnt seem to support all my gadgets.

Cornjob fucked around with this message at 05:17 on May 17, 2020

Simone Poodoin
Jun 26, 2003

Che storia figata, ragazzo!





I was gonna mention echo buttons and also that they suck. I got some for $1 and even so I regretted it. Maybe IFTTT going directly to your gadgets?

You can change the default sorting of routines though, in the app go to the routines page and click on the icon with the down arrow, then you can set it to sort alphabetically. Still kinda bad UX though, I do agree that allowing widgets would be great. I use Alexa because their devices are easy to find here for cheap in outlet stores, but the platform is very limited sometimes.

azurite
Jul 25, 2010

Strange, isn't it?!

Mandatory Assembly posted:

From what I've gathered, Home Assistant would be able to do this very easily but I'm a bit intimidated by it: I can code a little but I'm not a pro or even much of a hobbyist.

Home Assistant has made big strides in usability over the past year. You can make pretty simple if-this-then-that type automations in the GUI now. If you have to do something complicated enough to use config files for, it's not too bad. I'm a computer toucher, but not a developer by trade, and I could still figure it out.

It's nowhere near being a turn-key solution though, and learning it takes a bit of time. Once you get the hang of it, it's really flexible. I guess it depends if you have the time or motivation to futz with it.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007




We just moved into a new home, and the previous owners had some wireless doorbell. At the front door, they jammed all the wires back in the hole, and they drywalled over where the wires come through the wall inside the house. I think I know where it's at, but there's no way to verify the wires are there without sawing into the wall.

I've got a Ring Pro that I brought from my previous house, but it requires the wiring on both ends. On the front door, I think it can just run on battery, but I don't want to dismount it to recharge it every week or whatever. I see they have solar panels for the regular Ring, but it doesn't seem that's the case for the Pro.

So, my dilemma is, should I cut into my wall in attempt to find the wires inside, or do I say gently caress it and get a new doorbell that runs off a solar panel or some poo poo?


Thermostat: I have 2 Nests from my old house, but my new house has a Carrier Infinity system. It's real good poo poo, but you can't replace the thermostat without losing a bunch of functionality. The one that's on there now is not a wifi model, and it looks like the only wifi thermostat they offer is $, and the phone app looks like complete butt. Think I'm stuck on this one and have 2 Nests I can't use.


Irrigation: Anyone use a Rachio 3? Reviews look good, but sounds like customer service is real poo poo if you need it. Seems like a super easy install, and my utility company offers a $150 rebate on it too. I'm in northern CA, so the weather-based schedules look real cool.

Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 15:21 on May 28, 2020

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert


Fixing drywall is easy, I'd just cut into it.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007




For sure, I just really don’t want to re-texture and have to try to match the color.

Decairn
Dec 1, 2007



I have Rachio3 - was a breeze to install and setup via app. Works well including smart scheduling of when to water based on rainfall, wind, freeze. It does have an API for external integration to things like Google Home or Home Assistant but I don't see much need to use those. You basically set it and forget it. No need for technical support yet.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

USPOL May

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

We just moved into a new home, and the previous owners had some wireless doorbell. At the front door, they jammed all the wires back in the hole, and they drywalled over where the wires come through the wall inside the house. I think I know where it's at, but there's no way to verify the wires are there without sawing into the wall.

Tone and probe set?

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007




Kalman posted:

Tone and probe set?

Seems like exactly what I need. Another $100 tool to buy!

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007




Just installed my Rachio 3 in like 7 minutes.

Now someone tell me why in tarnation it wants to run my drip lines for 2h53m every single time? I figured the first watering with Daily Flex would soak it well, but every other scheduled watering is the same length. Will it get adjusted once the zone is “filled?”

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
And now the whole nation - pulpit and all - will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open.

Cornjob posted:

Is there any way to execute alexa routines via a button push, rather than opening the alexa app and navigating the alway re-sorting list of routines? Voice control is nice sometimes, but theres also alot of room for error with voice control.

I just want all my favorite routines as indavidual icons on my phone. It seems as thought this would be a simple fix for amazon if they added “favorites” page, or allowed home screen widgets.

I know echo buttons are a thing, but they kinda suck.
I tried home assistant but its over my head. And it doesnt seem to support all my gadgets.

I've not tested this out, but Hue Taps allegedly support Alexa routines. They definitely work with Apple Home scenes and it's not perfect (like sometimes just unpredictable things happen) but it's overall pretty good.

Cornjob
Jun 12, 2007

NOT AN ACTOR


Rick posted:

I've not tested this out, but Hue Taps allegedly support Alexa routines. They definitely work with Apple Home scenes and it's not perfect (like sometimes just unpredictable things happen) but it's overall pretty good.

Looks like those are $50, and require the $60 philips hue bridge .


If they do indeed support routines, Its expensive, but in my case possibly worth it

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?


Cornjob posted:

Looks like those are $50, and require the $60 philips hue bridge .


If they do indeed support routines, Its expensive, but in my case possibly worth it
Most Hue devices can be used with generic Zigbee implementations, but it seems that the Tap switch in particular uses a low-power "Zigbee Green Power" mode (unsurprising since they're battery-free and run entirely off power generated from the button press) which is not widely supported by generic bridges. Most other Hue devices use Zigbee Light Link that is very well supported.

Cornjob
Jun 12, 2007

NOT AN ACTOR


wolrah posted:

Most Hue devices can be used with generic Zigbee implementations, but it seems that the Tap switch in particular uses a low-power "Zigbee Green Power" mode (unsurprising since they're battery-free and run entirely off power generated from the button press) which is not widely supported by generic bridges. Most other Hue devices use Zigbee Light Link that is very well supported.

I have an echo plus, which has built in zigbee. Would that work?

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wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?


Cornjob posted:

I have an echo plus, which has built in zigbee. Would that work?

Not personally familiar with the Amazon ecosystem, I can't find any confirmation one way or another on whether it supports the Green Power mode.

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