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That Works
Jul 21, 2006


CheddarGoblin posted:

In that case, if it were me I'd swap the pi zero with a nodemcu and run ESPhome on it.

It's tempting but id rather not given how it's installed, wired etc and has been functioning perfectly for a year already.

Unless it's prohibitively difficult to do what I want to. The thing I am unclear on the most is how to get the pi to talk to HA.

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Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

sparkle and shine



MQTT works well.

That Works
Jul 21, 2006


Thanks. I'll read up on it.

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!


namlosh posted:

Out of curiosity, scripting where? Home assistant?

Speaking of which, has anyone done any development / extension on home assistant? Is he curious to know how hard it is to say, create a custom action or something.

Home Assistant, yes. It's barely even scripting, it's just setting a few properties based on current state.

For example, I have an automation called "Press button to toggle bedroom lamp". On a single button press event, it calls a script to determine the current state of the smart bulb in my bedroom lamp and then changes its state (on to off, or off to on at 100%/white).

I originally used the light.toggle service instead, but that service brings the bulb back to its previous state. So if it was purple at 25% brightness when turned off, it'll come back on to that state. I want pressing the button to reset it to 100%/white. If I want it at a different level, I'll do it via a long-press scene trigger, or via voice commands.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007




What's up with a few of my Hue bulbs randomly going offline? They become unresponsive and when I'm not home, I get angry wife messages about how the kitchen lights aren't working. I've never had any issues with distance from the hub either, even my outdoor lights can hit it just fine. I tried rebooting the hub, but the only thing that seemed to fix it was deleting the bulb in the Hue app and re-adding it. Which is a massive pain because I have to go back and re-add it to all of my Homekit automations again.

text editor
Jan 8, 2007



I have yet to have that happen, but my furthest bulb is like 25ft

That Works
Jul 21, 2006


Does anyone have a rough idea of the range on devices like these?

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D37VDM3/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Also, thanks very much for all the advice. I have HA running on my NAS as a VM and have also managed to hook up several sensors, got MQTT running on my Pi in the chicken coop and have it pushing a notification to HA etc each time it opens and closes the door.

One annoyance about that is while I get a notification when the script fires off to open / close the door, the actual door status is not reflected so I want to have a direct sensor installed to show the status instead. Thus the question about range above.

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!


Zigbee range is rated at 10-100 meters, but generally falls around 10-20 meters in real-world applications (ie. you're going through walls and have other 2.4 GHz interference nearby).

Note that Zigbee uses a mesh network, so the sensor doesn't have to be within 10-20 meters of the hub; it just has to be within range of another device already connected to the network.

That Works
Jul 21, 2006


WhiteHowler posted:

Zigbee range is rated at 10-100 meters, but generally falls around 10-20 meters in real-world applications (ie. you're going through walls and have other 2.4 GHz interference nearby).

Note that Zigbee uses a mesh network, so the sensor doesn't have to be within 10-20 meters of the hub; it just has to be within range of another device already connected to the network.

Thanks. It's gonna be cutting it close but not too terrible. I only have the hub I am using for Z-wave at the moment so have to get zigbee configured right on it.

That Works
Jul 21, 2006


WhiteHowler posted:

Zigbee range is rated at 10-100 meters, but generally falls around 10-20 meters in real-world applications (ie. you're going through walls and have other 2.4 GHz interference nearby).

Note that Zigbee uses a mesh network, so the sensor doesn't have to be within 10-20 meters of the hub; it just has to be within range of another device already connected to the network.

Welp, didn't work but that was the only zigbee device on the hub so far. I ordered a pair of smart plugs that act as repeaters and I'll put them on 2 diff receptacles on the back wall of the house closest to the coop and see if that makes a connection.

Baconroll
Feb 6, 2009


A very busy wifi router can drown out a huehub if they are next to each other. When mine were on the same shelf a max speed wifi download would stop the hues from responding.

Changing to 5Ghz wifi and moving the huehub a little resolved it.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007




Hmm, maybe that's it? The hub has to be plugged into the router, so of course it's going to be right next to it. I'll play with the exact spots of them next time it happens. Thanks!

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!



USB 3 also has horrible interference problems and is probably the reason a lot of my Wink stuff would be up and down constantly (I worked it out when I moved to SmartThings where the interference blocked it out completely and had to look up why)

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.


So I'm about to close on my new house, I have cat 6 run everywhere and I'm hyped! Moving out of my 2 bedroom apartment so I'm excited to do all the smart home stuff.

What is the gooncensus on what brands/ecosystems to look for? Stuff I'm interested in:

* Dome/Inside/Outside cameras
* Garage Doors
* Smoke Detectors et el
* Smart locks
* Smart Light switches
* Doorbell
* Home security system (?)
* Blinds?

or any other smart stuff I should look into?

TVGM
Mar 17, 2005

"It is not moral, it is not acceptable, and it is not sustainable that the top one-tenth of 1 percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent"



Yam Slacker

Might've been overkill pricewise, but I just installed about 6 GE Enbrighten switches this week and they're good. However, even with the reduced depth of the version 2 switch, it still felt a bit crammed when pushing them into the box.

Also looking for a doorbell that I don't need a subscription for.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009


MOTRONIC FOR MODERATOR, MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN


Grimey Drawer

Gyshall posted:

So I'm about to close on my new house, I have cat 6 run everywhere and I'm hyped! Moving out of my 2 bedroom apartment so I'm excited to do all the smart home stuff.

What is the gooncensus on what brands/ecosystems to look for? Stuff I'm interested in:

* Dome/Inside/Outside cameras
* Garage Doors
* Smoke Detectors et el
* Smart locks
* Smart Light switches
* Doorbell
* Home security system (?)
* Blinds?

or any other smart stuff I should look into?

What is your general feeling on cloud services for this type of thing?

Because there is a huge divide between "my poo poo is my own and I'll put in the time and effort to do that" and "gadget of the day on my wifi".

Just based on my description you can tell where I'm at. I'm also on team "all things must have a switch that functions without automation."

WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!


Be aware that if you're going to have a professionally-monitored security system, all of those devices will be cloud-based. It doesn't completely prevent you from integrating them with your other automation, but you'll be at the mercy of what the security company's API will let you do.

For example, you can monitor and manipulate Simplisafe devices from Home Assistant. However, sensor data is up to 30 seconds delayed, because there's no locally-accessible device API, and their cloud API limits the number of non-native update requests per minute.

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.


I'm okay with cloud, I already have a unifi UDM and some access points. Are their cameras worth getting if I'm already halfway set up on the hardware?

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Just the tip!



Exciting Lemon

Their cameras are fine hardware-wise but I found the Protect software absolutely garbage. Like you can't get notifications for a specific zone of motion (where packages would get delivered) or anything like that. I ended up switching to Blue Iris which is way more packed with features - the Ubiquiti cameras fortunately work with it but in hindsight I'm glad I kept most of the analog cameras and only got the UI doorbell.

Obviously having something to run BI is the far end of the spectrum so I would just say if you are cloud-comfortable you can do much better than Ubiquiti's.

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.


Gotcha. I do have a little cluster of NUCs and pis I can run stuff on, and Home Assistant running local as well.

Also the wife factor I'm trying to figure out too.

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Just the tip!



Exciting Lemon

Oh yeah perfect, a NUC is great for Blue Iris. There's a zillion reasonably priced RTSP/ONVIF cameras that would work just fine with it.

The cameras in the place I moved into were all analog Coax/BNC (except the aforementioned doorbell) and I grabbed a cheap 8-port capture card off of eBay and Blue Iris handles running motion detection across 5 cameras on a loving ancient 3770. It's very resource-friendly.

Less Fat Luke fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Apr 20, 2021

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009


MOTRONIC FOR MODERATOR, MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN


Grimey Drawer

WhiteHowler posted:

Be aware that if you're going to have a professionally-monitored security system, all of those devices will be cloud-based.

I mean.....to some extent this might be true but it's really not. You can have a circa 1980s system monitored still. It just depends on what you want to install and if you want to call the central station "the cloud".

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WhiteHowler
Apr 3, 2001

I'M HUGE!


Motronic posted:

I mean.....to some extent this might be true but it's really not. You can have a circa 1980s system monitored still. It just depends on what you want to install and if you want to call the central station "the cloud".
Well, sure, but I mean as far as things you're going to be able to integrate with home automation.

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