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toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


I've also changed the entity type of the switch as a hack for some things to show on a light card.

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Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
The FP300 from Aqara went through Matter certification. About goddamn time. I hope they'll release soon enough.

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

someone was complaining about the difficulty of researching home assistant because of the very common words in the name, but let me tell you how amusing it is to research home assistant matter problems

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

ask me about nix or tailscale
what’s the best air quality sensor that can talk to HA locally? I’m starting to wonder about the CO2 levels in my office during the day

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.
I have an airwave, which is very good, on each floor of my house. I've also got a few Kaiterra egg devices that I use through homekit and block WWW access to.

Tamba
Apr 5, 2010

If all you care about is very accurate CO2 numbers, you probably can't beat the Aranet 4 because it directly measures CO2 with a sensor made for that. Most of the ones that measure a bunch of things actually measure VOCs and then estimate a CO2 value from that.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

Subjunctive posted:

what’s the best air quality sensor that can talk to HA locally? I’m starting to wonder about the CO2 levels in my office during the day

Esphome with esp32 or similar + SCD30 or SCD40.

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

I have a switchbot co2 monitor which connects locally to ha, and is very accurate, a random aliexpress zigbee one (ndiir too) that matches the switchbot, and a qingping that although connects locally to ha, has to be taken out regularly to calibrate as it drifts.

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

but one thing I have noticed and also read studies on is that while high co2 is a indicator of poor ventilation, the one that makes my brain turn off is voc levels. I have a zigbee voc sensor, also the amazon air quality monitor but it does not talk directly to ha, you need some third party hacs thing for that.

please don't ask me about all my air monitors, I have more than listed

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

ask me about nix or tailscale

Celexi posted:

I have a switchbot co2 monitor which connects locally to ha, and is very accurate, a random aliexpress zigbee one (ndiir too) that matches the switchbot, and a qingping that although connects locally to ha, has to be taken out regularly to calibrate as it drifts.

do you need the hub to connect the switchbot to HA?

what zigbee VOC monitor do you have (assuming it's good)?

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

Subjunctive posted:

do you need the hub to connect the switchbot to HA?

what zigbee VOC monitor do you have (assuming it's good)?

You don't need the hub to connect it to homeassistant, the zigbee one the one I specifically got isn't in aliexpress anymore, it was https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/TS0601_smart_air_house_keeper.html (do ignore the co2 and formaldehyde readings from it, they are equivalent readings).
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HolHorsejob
Mar 14, 2020

Portrait of Cheems II of Spain by Jabona Neftman, olo pint on fird
Anyone use homeassistant's voice assistant? How is it? I'm really goddamn sick of Google's, the keyword just absolutely does not roll off my tongue and I'm sick of slowing down for a third painstaking try every time

Jedi425
Dec 6, 2002

THOU ART THEE ART THOU STICK YOUR HAND IN THE TV DO IT DO IT DO IT

HolHorsejob posted:

Anyone use homeassistant's voice assistant? How is it? I'm really goddamn sick of Google's, the keyword just absolutely does not roll off my tongue and I'm sick of slowing down for a third painstaking try every time

Yeah, I'm wondering about this too; Amazon's changes to Alexa are the last straw, I already hated this thing but tolerated it for the sake of my handicapped wife. Now even she wants the fucker gone.

Flux Wildly
Dec 20, 2004

Welkum tü Zanydu!

I might be asking for something really daft but is there such thing as a dryness detector? I have a coffee machine with a contained water tank that isn’t visible and I’m wondering if I can put a sensor (ideally sealed and self contained) within it to trigger a low level alert. Naturally im only finding leak sensors on my searches and this may be a really unlikely use case but wondering if there’s some way I can find a solution?

Slimy Hog
Apr 22, 2008

Flux Wildly posted:

I might be asking for something really daft but is there such thing as a dryness detector? I have a coffee machine with a contained water tank that isn’t visible and I’m wondering if I can put a sensor (ideally sealed and self contained) within it to trigger a low level alert. Naturally im only finding leak sensors on my searches and this may be a really unlikely use case but wondering if there’s some way I can find a solution?

Something like this?
https://shop.yosmart.com/products/ys7904f

Rooted Vegetable
Jun 1, 2002

Flux Wildly posted:

I might be asking for something really daft but is there such thing as a dryness detector?

I can't talk to a specific product but I can say that water detectors send a dry and wet state. Unfortunately they also sound an alarm when wet, but it's very possible to detect "gone from wet to dry" events.

weg
Jun 6, 2006

Reassisted Retrogression
Probably a conductive sensor that can sense when it's wet by puttting a small current in the water?

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Jedi425 posted:

Yeah, I'm wondering about this too; Amazon's changes to Alexa are the last straw, I already hated this thing but tolerated it for the sake of my handicapped wife. Now even she wants the fucker gone.

We ditched ours 2-3 years ago. What’s the changes now?

E: i have a voice assistant but haven’t set it up yet. I will be sometime this month though and will try to comment in here.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

I'm curious also. I'm tentatively looking forward to the Alexa changes later this year where it'll be able to answer some LLM questions because right now it's pretty much a Home Assistant gateway. "Alexa, turn off downstairs."

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?
Google Assistant hasn't been able to add items to shopping lists for users with Workspace accounts for around three months at this point, google acknowledged it in January but there's been no movement since, so I'm also very interested in how well the HA assistant works just to have some actual control over the thing, without even getting in to the privacy issues.

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".

Flux Wildly posted:

I might be asking for something really daft but is there such thing as a dryness detector? I have a coffee machine with a contained water tank that isn’t visible and I’m wondering if I can put a sensor (ideally sealed and self contained) within it to trigger a low level alert. Naturally im only finding leak sensors on my searches and this may be a really unlikely use case but wondering if there’s some way I can find a solution?

Maybe look at soil moisture sensors? They’re usually shaped like a spade to be plunged into the ground and might need serious tuning to work for this application but it seems possible

HolHorsejob
Mar 14, 2020

Portrait of Cheems II of Spain by Jabona Neftman, olo pint on fird

You can buy float switches that output a high or low depending on water level.

E: I think they make switches that output one signal on overtopping and another upon bottoming out

HolHorsejob fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Mar 27, 2025

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
Yeah, a float sensor or maybe an ultrasonic level sensor. Does the tank get removed to fill it up? Dealing with the wires seems like the hard part.

Search for liquid level sensors if you want other ideas.

Flux Wildly
Dec 20, 2004

Welkum tü Zanydu!

Thanks some good ideas - the wires are the tricky bit, it’s a Rancilio Silvia so removable and has two tubes coming in from the top so there is an access hole, I’ll take a look at some of these.

Jedi425
Dec 6, 2002

THOU ART THEE ART THOU STICK YOUR HAND IN THE TV DO IT DO IT DO IT

That Works posted:

We ditched ours 2-3 years ago. What’s the changes now?

E: i have a voice assistant but haven’t set it up yet. I will be sometime this month though and will try to comment in here.

https://www.wired.com/story/everything-you-say-to-your-echo-will-be-sent-to-amazon-starting-march-28/

No more opt out, everything goes into the AI slop chute. gently caress 'em.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:
Seems my recent crashes were caused by RAM limits, sucks that apparently the OS just crashes rather than some sorta watchdog notifying the user and some graceful shutdowns. Luckily I realized that my other Pi4 actually has double the RAM, as it no longer serves it's prior purpose, I was able to just switch it out and hopefully things should settle down again.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Tatsuta Age posted:

About one out of 20 times, when I ask to turn off any light, google home goes "OK, turning off 20 devices" and shuts off every light connected in the house. No rhyme or reason to it when I look back at the voice logs, it hears the right thing and just goes haywire.

this and other basic things like turning on all the lights in a room, is a big reason why I'm looking at going self hosted. it sure feels like Google is abandoning their home devices, I don't think they've gotten ad revenue from us for it so I can't imagine they're going to keep doing voice assistant for much longer

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


Oh drat, this was probably talked about and I missed it: https://www.androidpolice.com/state-of-smart-speakers-dc-google-assistant/

quote:

By the end of 2025, Google Assistant will no longer be available on mobile devices. The tech giant is retiring Google Assistant whether you like it or not and isn't stopping at phones and tablets. Cars, headphones, and smartwatches will all switch over to Gemini at a later date.

However, the transition won't be the same for smart home devices. Google Assistant is the default voice assistant on all of Google's Home and Nest devices, as well as many third-party manufacturers' smart home products. Google Assistant is a core feature of these products, so the switch to Gemini will likely have a bigger impact here than on our phones. So, how will this switch change how we use our smart home devices?

...

There's one snag to all this, and that's the question of which smart home devices can run Gemini. The 2019 Nest Mini launched only a year after Android 9, which is the oldest version of Android Gemini supports. If Google decides that its older hardware can't handle Gemini, we may be stuck with smart home devices that steadily degrade in quality as Google strips features from Assistant.

Guess this puts a timer on figuring out another solution, since most of my devices aren't Google hardware, and will probably not get the updates needed to work with a new system.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Tatsuta Age posted:

Oh drat, this was probably talked about and I missed it: https://www.androidpolice.com/state-of-smart-speakers-dc-google-assistant/

Guess this puts a timer on figuring out another solution, since most of my devices aren't Google hardware, and will probably not get the updates needed to work with a new system.

I think out of my kit I will lose the aircon, Xbox, robot vacuum and (future) doorbell. All of them are google home api endpoints, no Matter or HomeKit.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004
waveshare leaning hard into Google home xyz

https://www.cnx-software.com/2025/0...nd-speaker-box/

pretty much looks like a standard Google home or Alexa puck thing

https://www.waveshare.com/esp32-s3-touch-lcd-1.85c.htm?sku=30685

looks like $33 from their website SKU:30685

back ordered, of course. if this works half as well as I'm imagining a $33 piece of AliExpress esp32 works this could be a real winner if they can mfg them in volume

Hadlock fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Apr 1, 2025

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



So, cameras.

I've had a few brands in the house before... a Nest that was already here, but I fell out with when Google bought them. I also have an Insteon thing that's old and garbage, and a D-Link that's increasingly unreliable (and never good at connecting outside of the home).

I was thinking of rolling my own system using either ZoneMinder or Frigate, which I've installed and played with a bit, and purchased a Taco C110 and C120 from Amazon as they were cheap and... now I'm kinda in two minds, as the Tapo setup really is pretty good out the box with the app it's provided. Especially the C120 which does all the detection stuff onboard and seems to do a good job at it. ZMs complete lack of design was off-putting, and Frigate running in a docker and not being able to do any hardware acceleration to be useful seems a bit of a bust so far. I've heard it can run on Proxmox OK though, and I do have a new system running that so I might play with it on there instead.

Anyone else running these cameras, and what did you decide to go with? I don't really want to subscribe to a service, but sticking some mSD into each device seems a pretty good way to go. I was hoping to secure it down a bit more, if I deny the IP of each camera internet access the app still works while I"m on my local network but doesn't when I'm off despite being on my TailScale VPN.. maybe I can further configure that to work though.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

I love peeps

EL BROMANCE posted:

Frigate running in a docker and not being able to do any hardware acceleration to be useful seems a bit of a bust so far.

I'm on team Blue Iris (sucks that its windows, but I have it running on the IOT stripped down version in a VM), but I had been looking at frigate and it does do hardware accel for image classification using a google coral. I've got a dual edge TPU that codeproject.ai uses, which BI is pointed at. As I recall, frigate can use one natively and even a USB one can do 100 FPS easily. And they are cheap and very power efficient.

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

Cheaper amcrest cameras and frigate on my unraid server is working great for six cameras. Setup the whole thing cheaply with 5 of them poe and one WiFi.

Since I’m running frigate on one of those beelink minipcs I did buy a coral usb device so that frigate can process everything (otherwise it was choking sometimes with just two cameras) but there was an open box deal on amazon that made it a bit cheaper. I don’t use any of the motion settings or recording on the cameras they just dump their video to frigate.

I couldn’t find any reasonable alternative to frigate. It can be annoying to configure but not so annoying I wanted to deal with a per camera subscription to scrypted.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
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Ah interesting, so if you go the coral route it basically takes any pressure off the cpu then? That could be something to try instead down the line then. I wasn’t sure if coral came under the same issues of not being able to pass thru the hw accel arguments, so that’s cool it doesn’t.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

I love peeps

EL BROMANCE posted:

Ah interesting, so if you go the coral route it basically takes any pressure off the cpu then? That could be something to try instead down the line then. I wasn’t sure if coral came under the same issues of not being able to pass thru the hw accel arguments, so that’s cool it doesn’t.

What issues are you talking about? For example, I have NVIDIA GPUs being shared by multiple docker containers. Your docker host must have the correct drivers, you must have the correct docker stuff running to do it, but after that it's a matter of adding "--runtime=nvidia" and the container can see it. You can also pass through intel quicksync with "--device /dev/dri:/dev/dri".

This is quite a bit better than passing the entire device through to a VM in my case because it allows me to share these things between multiple services/containers (i.e. plex, emby, tdarr, immich).

E: coral passthrough is "--device /dev/apex_0:/dev/apex_0" and "--device /dev/apex_1:/dev/apex_1" if you have a dual TPW M2 version.

E2: Docker compose example for my ErsatzTV container:

code:
services:
  ersatztv:
    image: jasongdove/ersatztv:latest-nvidia
    container_name: ersatztv
    runtime: nvidia # Expose NVIDIA GPUs
    network_mode: host
    ports:
      - 8409:8409
    environment:
      - TZ=America/New_York
    volumes:
      - /opt/ersatztv/config:/root/.local/share/ersatztv
      - /mnt/media:/mnt/media

    devices:
      #- /dev/dri:/dev/dri # VAAPI/NVDEC/NVENC render nodes
      #- /dev/vchiq:/dev/vchiq # MMAL/OMX on Raspberry Pi
    restart: unless-stopped

Motronic fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Apr 2, 2025

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

EL BROMANCE posted:

Ah interesting, so if you go the coral route it basically takes any pressure off the cpu then? That could be something to try instead down the line then. I wasn’t sure if coral came under the same issues of not being able to pass thru the hw accel arguments, so that’s cool it doesn’t.

I’m running frigate in a docker and there’s no problem passing in hardware acceleration. You just have to map it to whatever hardware address (for me that’s a USB device)

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Oh interesting, I went through my browsing history and found the page that told me I couldn't, and it looks like either 1. the dude posting this is just plain wrong or 2. this is specifically a limitation of Docker on macOS and I realize I didn't specify my OS in the earlier posts - sorry. I was hoping I could simply use videotoolbox which always gives me way better results in ffmpeg, but I'm usually running things bare metal (but now trying to move as many of those things to docker as possible).

https://www.reddit.com/r/frigate_nvr/comments/1ati226/which_hwaccel_args_can_i_use_on_a_macos/

Appreciate that Ersatz compose file, as that's something else I want to move across!

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005

I use blueiris and some reolink cameras. Used to have this as a vm in proxmox but now I've moved it to an oldish dell laptop work let me have. Has an nvidia p600 for code project.ai, and the battery makes a nice built in ups.

CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

I ran blueiris with dual lens Annke cameras at the last house but left the cams there. Just got a Reolink 2V in the mail today in fact, which means it's time to boot up the proxmox/hassio/nas that's been in stasis for 18 months :getin:

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Resdfru
Jun 4, 2004

I'm a freak on a leash.
I run frigate in a docker with an Nvidia video card passed through and my cameras are a handful of Wyze cams running wz mini hacks firmware and completely blocked from internet access.

I have 1 nest doorbell cam also that I recently added to frigate by way of a project called nestmtx. It requires setting up a nest developer account for 5 bucks which was easy. It's kinda hacky though, I think the guy abandoned it or something. It maxes out the cpu immediately, so I limited it's cpu via docker and it works fine. The other issue is that the service is supposed to refresh the token from Google but it fails (there's an ignored issue on git) so I work around that issue by running a cron job to just restart the container and then stop and start the stream via the nestmtx api

As for running docker on not Linux. In my opinion save yourself a bunch of headaches and find a way to run it on linux

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