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Keisari
May 24, 2011

Markovnikov posted:

Never owned one but from what I've read, depending on what technology they use to map the environment, yeah mirrors can make them bug out. There's many a post about mirrors creating "shadow realms" in the vacuum"s map.

I observed the vacuum a lot more and the issue was that the object recognition recognized a darker carpet I have as an insurmountable obstacle and then it derped out. The mirror did not help. So now I just have the place with the mat as a no-go zone and I will occasionally remove the mat for it to clean there.

I guess I could also raise the recognition threshold but I don't want to risk a poop disaster. Pet waste detection allegedly only works on the most sensitive setting.

Overall, still real happy!

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SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017
Ack, wrong thread.

Keisari
May 24, 2011

I am considering using distilled water in my samsung bespoke jet bot. I ordered some online and only then realized that distilled water apparently corrodes metal. Does anyone know if these mopping vacuums can usually handle some or do I risk damaging my bot by using it?

If so, I wonder if I can mix some of the distilled water with regular tap water (ours is quite soft afaik) and be fine. The reason I'd like to use distilled water is so that I could then avoid descaling completely as there wouldn't be any calcium buildup in the bot.

EDIT: I'm asking because I can't really disassemble the drat machine either to see for myself lol.

Edit2: i realized that the heating element is probably stained steel and i will gently caress it up if i use distilled water

Keisari fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Apr 15, 2025

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

I love peeps

Keisari posted:

I am considering using distilled water in my samsung bespoke jet bot. I ordered some online and only then realized that distilled water apparently corrodes metal. Does anyone know if these mopping vacuums can usually handle some or do I risk damaging my bot by using it?

If so, I wonder if I can mix some of the distilled water with regular tap water (ours is quite soft afaik) and be fine. The reason I'd like to use distilled water is so that I could then avoid descaling completely as there wouldn't be any calcium buildup in the bot.

EDIT: I'm asking because I can't really disassemble the drat machine either to see for myself lol.

It sounds like you're confusing distilled water with deionized water. There is no problem using distilled water. Some DI processes can result in low pH (acidic) but this neutralizes pretty quickly in open atmosphere.

Distilled water is going to be neutral, just like your tap water. So it will rust things just the same as your tap water. Which means your vacuum was made to deal with this.

Keisari
May 24, 2011

Motronic posted:

It sounds like you're confusing distilled water with deionized water. There is no problem using distilled water. Some DI processes can result in low pH (acidic) but this neutralizes pretty quickly in open atmosphere.

Distilled water is going to be neutral, just like your tap water. So it will rust things just the same as your tap water. Which means your vacuum was made to deal with this.

Right. Well this poo poo I ordered is 100 % water, no salts, no minerals, no chalk. My motivation was to get a water that would have no calcium so I wouldn't need to descale ever, lol.

Tamba
Apr 5, 2010

Just get one of those water filter pitchers and run the water through that before you put it into the robot. Probably a lot cheaper than buying distilled water.

Keisari
May 24, 2011

Tamba posted:

Just get one of those water filter pitchers and run the water through that before you put it into the robot. Probably a lot cheaper than buying distilled water.

Huh, that's a great idea. How much of calcium do they get rid of? I wonder if they get rid of enough to make calcification a non-issue but not too much so that it corrodes the heating element.

phosdex
Dec 16, 2005

I have a little reverse-osmosis system under my sink for water. I know this removes calcium because I have to re-add it for my plants.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Motronic posted:

It sounds like you're confusing distilled water with deionized water. There is no problem using distilled water. Some DI processes can result in low pH (acidic) but this neutralizes pretty quickly in open atmosphere.

Distilled water is going to be neutral, just like your tap water. So it will rust things just the same as your tap water. Which means your vacuum was made to deal with this.

My Eureka bot manual explicitly says to not use distilled water due to possible damage to internal components. Maybe they have weird rubber tubing or plastics?

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

I love peeps

SlowBloke posted:

My Eureka bot manual explicitly says to not use distilled water due to possible damage to internal components. Maybe they have weird rubber tubing or plastics?

I'm not aware of anything that distilled water can cause an issue with that regular tap water (i.e., dirty distilled water) won't. That's very strange.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004
I have a $150 RODI system in my garage for my aquarium hobby. The water that comes out is about 6.5 ph and yeah if you let it stand overnight it's about real close to 7 once atmospheric gasses normalize in it

I always put tap water in my irobot braava robo mopper it's fine after ~6 years

I can't imagine a scenario where pure water is going to dissolve seals faster than tap water unless like they're made out of calcium or limestone which doesn't seem likely

Hadlock fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Apr 16, 2025

HamburgerTownUSA
Aug 7, 2022
Fwiw, Roborock says not to use distilled or purified water because its lack of conductivity means the water level indicator won't work right

https://support.roborock.com/hc/en-...l-tank-of-water

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

I love peeps

HamburgerTownUSA posted:

Fwiw, Roborock says not to use distilled or purified water because its lack of conductivity means the water level indicator won't work right

https://support.roborock.com/hc/en-...l-tank-of-water

Now THAT makes sense. That's an actual reason and effects the output of a typical electric steam humidifier too for the same reasons.

Terrible design choice for a mop bot, but at least it makes sense.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004
yeah that tracks. you could increase conductivity by adding a small fraction of tap water, or a pinch of table salt. salt might cause unwanted corrosion tho

bolind
Jun 19, 2005



Pillbug
UniFi Protect: is there a way to quiet notifications for a camera going offline, but just for one camera in the system? I have a solar powered birdhouse cam that obviously only works when the sun is out, and I don’t really care about getting notified every time there is a cloud.

Well Played Mauer
Jun 1, 2003

We'll always have Cabo
I have no smart appliances or devices in my house at the moment. Were I to start completely fresh with Home Assistant in TYOOL 2025, which protocol should I use, assuming I want only devices that don't require an internet connection to function, don't need a proprietary hub, and won't ever communicate with a third party? Matter?

Tamba
Apr 5, 2010

Zigbee. You can add ZWave too, but Zigbee should have devices for everything you want.
Let Matter cook another 5-10 years before you start thinking about it.

Tamba fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Apr 20, 2025

Well Played Mauer
Jun 1, 2003

We'll always have Cabo
Sweet, thanks. I'll look around a bit for some devices. I think my main use cases will be outdoor solar powered lighting and a couple smaet bulbs I can manage over tailscale when we're out of town. Shouldnt be too hard to find, right?

Tamba
Apr 5, 2010

Yeah, there are lots of Zigbee bulbs around. I've personally used the Philips Hue ones (expensive) and the Ikea ones (cheaper). You don't need their specific hub for either of them. Home Assistant with some Zigbee USB stick (or the Home Assistant Yellow box which has a Zigbee radio inside) can talk to all of them directly.

No idea about solar powered ones, but some quick googling suggests they do exist.

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SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017
Derbauer just made a video about distilled water used in pc cooling loops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pIpKetQlZs

End results seems to show minimal issues unless if your system have cheap alloys that will react more actively to the distilled water.

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