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Has anyone else here read Trail of Lightning? It’s more paranormal romance than UF, I think, but I was looking to see what other people think about it.
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# ¿ Oct 17, 2019 02:19 |
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 22:58 |
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Apparatchik Magnet posted:Marcone wants the bad thing to stop, but wants to blackmail or control the bad people, I guess. Because Marcone is Actually Bad himself. Marcone has a super soft spot for children for Reasons, but is also not above having a bunch of paedos under his thumb to torture/use as patsy’s
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2019 17:18 |
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StrixNebulosa posted:Oh hey I can help here, give you a brief overview of the UF I've read/am reading: Thank you for your amazing post.
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2019 00:04 |
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Whoever recommended October Day was spot on. I’m listening to the first book right now and it’s going to be my next binge .
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# ¿ Oct 23, 2019 05:51 |
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ImpAtom posted:Thomas rapes people to death. Thomas raped *children* to death. There is no real complexity there. If some one rapes and murders to stay alive maybe they shouldn't be alive. Do you know where we get dairy milk and veal?
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2019 05:35 |
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ImpAtom posted:Not even remotely close. Forcing captive animals to impregnate each other and then stealing the resulting child to slaughter and eat while forcing the mother to continue lactating so we can have her milk is nowhere close? You want to talk about violating consent and bodily autonomy? How about river otters or ducks? Do they deserve to stop existing? I’m not saying you’re wrong about Butcher, although I disagree with some of your premise, but heinous poo poo has been done for food since carnivores and omnivores started walking the earth, and nature is completely hosed. I get that you’re approaching this as an outside examination of the author/work, but from an inside view saying “you don’t deserve to live because your source of food is wrong” is simplistic, or you are actually advocating for wiping out a shitton of life since for a good chunk of the food chain each meal involves a murder.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2019 13:08 |
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Necrotizer F posted:Well, yeah, but there is a considerable difference between eating animals and eating sentient beings. I disagree on the whole “eating a ‘sentient’ thing is worse” but that’s more for the science/philosophy threads. I agree with everything else and I’m looking forward to Peace Talks.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2019 15:27 |
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He does make an excellent patsy. Re: October Daye. I just finished The Winter Long and I am still enjoying it, although the Luna/October and Sylvester/October dynamic now is annoying me, a lot of which is fueled by Toby’s reactions. Also, I continue to laugh at “Here kitty, kitty” even though that was Book 2. Thank goodness for audiobooks helping me get through some of these names.
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# ¿ Nov 5, 2019 19:44 |
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Finished book 13 of October Daye. The audiobook version even had a novella at the end. It was really good, and I like where I think the story is going and where it’s been so far. Now I have to go pick up the rest of the side stories because holy poo poo do they have some important things in them.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2019 15:08 |
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EVGA Longoria posted:Which novella did it come with? To be fair, it’s not plot-relevant really, but Toby bringing January et al back from the loving dead caught me a little off guard as a couple of throwaway lines. The short-story/novella is Hope is Swift and makes me feel lots of emotions, some of them pleasant. The reader is really good too. I think I’ll pick up the first Jane Yellowrock next, it sounds like my cup of tea. DreamingofRoses fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Nov 14, 2019 |
# ¿ Nov 14, 2019 15:35 |
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aers posted:The past half a dozen books or so have all had a novella at the end I think? Oooh, thank you!
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2019 01:56 |
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immoral_ posted:Not at all UF but if you haven't read the Redwall series by Brian Jaques, it might scratch that itch a bit. I used to love Redwall a lot, but I eventually got tired of the way it handled weasels/ferrets/stoats/rats
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# ¿ Nov 18, 2019 04:50 |
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M_Gargantua posted:I remember reading Black Jewels around 2008 and yet remember almost nothing about it. I wonder if it holds up at all if I reread it. No. At least not if you’re tired of gendered stereotypes
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2019 00:09 |
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Exmond posted:I'm at work, so I can't phrase this better. The Black Jewel series is great, but can be "problematic". I doubt it would get published today. “Problematic” is the perfect word for it.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2019 03:01 |
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I’m listening back through the October Daye series from the beginning since I have more free time over the holidays. I have so many questions about Marcia.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2019 14:34 |
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StrixNebulosa posted:Hey thank you, I enjoy posting my impressions of what I read and I'm glad people enjoy 'em. I forget when Anita Blake goes full off the rails, but I’m excited to see your takes as you progress.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2020 01:58 |
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StrixNebulosa posted:As I understand it, it... completes? advances? its genre-shifting in Obsidian Butterfly. Which I am genuinely excited to read, because as I understand it, the series doesn't go bad, it goes.... well, as one poster put it, it goes on a roadtrip across the genres in a very author-indulgent way, and is messy as hell in interesting ways. And there's a lot of sex. I think it basically shifts into the genre of Hamilton’s Gentry series re: where the focus of the story is and just how much banging the main character does.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2020 02:19 |
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I like Anais' analysis of it, and I want to say I've read up to Obsidian Butterfly (it's been a while and I don't remember super-well), but I'm primarily a fan of her Meredith Gentry series up until, I want to say A Shiver of Light, and I definitely saw a similarity in story focus shift and the quality of writing decrease between them both as the series goes on. Also, when I say there's a focus on the characters banging, there's a LOT of focus on the characters banging. I'm still excited in seeing your reaction to it.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2020 02:33 |
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StrixNebulosa posted:I recently read the first hundred pages of Merry 1 due to a friend goading me into it and I gotta say, given how much sex is in it already I'm curious to see how she can fit even more sex into it. You should finish it, and then book two. I like them because it’s porn with plot. I will warn you that it gets intense when she goes back ‘home’ for a visit and it sets off an... interesting storyline. So trigger warnings, especially for abuse and torture. DreamingofRoses fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Jan 30, 2020 |
# ¿ Jan 30, 2020 06:17 |
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Angry Lobster posted:I can buy most of it, but what I don't get is how could he knew about Nemesis and the corruption in the Council, all that stuff is supposed to be top secret, even among wizards. He’s the assistant to the head Warden and apparently knew Dresden’s mom, so I’m assuming he’s able to have access to things that only the Council might get to know, or know things from a different source
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2020 00:14 |
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I mean, there’s a lot we don’t know about Harry’s family’s interaction with the Council.
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# ¿ Feb 5, 2020 04:09 |
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Everyone posted:Presumably there's plenty of other people/artifacts/places/etc. who do. I'm fine with a Murphy got better because [insert deal/power/complication that causes problems AKA story]. Honestly the “blow everything up and then use the remains to build another bomb” approach is the best part of the series.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2020 22:00 |
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biracial bear for uncut posted:The existence of the White Court and trying to make any of them sympathetic characters ought to drat the series by itself. There is a lot of media, especially stuff that started 10+ years ago, that has problematic aspects, especially when it comes to sex/gender/sexuality etc. Criticism of those is fine, but people are allowed to enjoy things with problematic content without feeling like someone’s jumping all over them.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2020 02:09 |
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StrixNebulosa posted:Psycho faerie queen held a knife to Merry's eyeball and threatened her into agreeing to gently caress her hot guards, even one she chooses to be a spy for her. This book is a RIDE. These were actually either my first or second ish series that I read when I was like 13/14 ish that dealt with sex stuff explicitly. They are a trip and a half.
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# ¿ Mar 27, 2020 06:12 |
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I’m pretty sure that was a set up to show how !!evil!! the skinwalker was and what a ~tortured soul~ Thomas is. Remember, it was the one that tortured Thomas and then also the one that dragged the victims to him while the ‘demon was in control’.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2020 12:49 |
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docbeard posted:I'd argue that the White Court are the worst thing in the Dresdenverse for exactly that reason. Between the Outsiders, Nicodimus’ assholes, the unknowable/unmentionable things being smothered by the Oblivion war, the firbolgs and whatever other bullshit is hiding behind the curtains and is more than willing to exterminate or control large swathes of humanity/the world /reality, I kind of have to disagree with you on that point. Superpowered predators who need to guard their food source isn’t the worst thing for humanity to deal with in the Dresdenverse by a long-shot
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2020 21:55 |
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biracial bear for uncut posted:You literally just argued “if they enjoy it, is it really rape?” in complete ignorance of what actual real world rape victims go through when their body responds to a rape in the exact opposite way from their thought processes. No, they didn’t.
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2020 00:32 |
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Everyone posted:
They were talking about the literal mechanism of their lust voodoo being, in most cases, overwhelming horniness that the average jane/joe thinks is coming from themselves, even if that’s not the truth. IE the victims perception of the situation. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ¿ Mar 31, 2020 01:07 |
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Aerdan posted:I'm not sure I'd call it urban fantasy, as such, but I'm about a third to halfway through Beauty, by Robin McKinley; it's a retelling of "Beauty and the Beast". It's slice-of-life and ambiguously Age of Sail Genero-Europe, and while it does mention witches and magic fairly early on, you don't actually see it for quite a while. It's well-written and worth a read on its own merits, at least, though. I love Robin McKinley’s stuff. If you want her ufish story and don’t mind (absolutely not sexy) vampires, try Sunshine.
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# ¿ May 3, 2020 15:31 |
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Speaking of books coming out this year, I’m pretty excited about the next October Daye novel coming out in September.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2020 20:52 |
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Please stop bitching about/people bitching about Dresden Files. For anyone who’s been keeping up with October Daye and the synopsis for the new book. I just did a reread. I’m still almost convinced Marcia and Danny are one of the Three or Firstborn. I’m pretty sure that we’re going to see at least Oberon in this upcoming book given the fact that it’s basically about having to fix Simon. Any ideas on how many more books are supposed to be in the series?
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2020 15:29 |
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Sloth Life posted:There's a new October Date? Dead chuffed. I really like that series, it's the antithesis to Dresden. A Killing Frost releases September 1st, you can even preorder it! I like it for that reason too, especially since there are multiple non- joke LGBT relationships and characters (I like the way Walter was handled, especially in the context of Faerie culture.) Although it is pretty white. Akata Witch is next up on my list.
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# ¿ Jul 8, 2020 23:01 |
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Everything they have done is good. N. K. Jemisin is amazing and very often heartbreaking and I read/finished her Shattered Earth trilogy while my mom was in the hospital/shortly after she died and the Afterword (IIRC) of the last book left me in tears. I think The City We Became is her latest, right?
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2020 02:43 |
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Deptfordx posted:It's worth noting that a failed pacemaker doesn't have to be immediately catastrophic Failed is not the same as catastrophic damage
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# ¿ Jul 9, 2020 15:14 |
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Everyone posted:Still, we know that it can be deadly. Otherwise Harry wouldn't be so reluctant to go to hospital for fear of harming patients. TBF, besides the joke I made earlier about Pacemakers exploding, the deadliness seems to be more of the powers causing a complication than the actual action of his powers.
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# ¿ Jul 10, 2020 04:35 |
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Avalerion posted:Meanwhile I finished October and... yea that was just a big bunch of nothing right through the end. Sorry that having multidimensional characters without blowing poo poo up isn’t your cup of tea.
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# ¿ Jul 13, 2020 14:58 |
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Sloth Life posted:October Daye is generally low action, more about fostering relationships, mediation between the haves and have nots, repercussions of royal actions and the past affecting the present. It has high stakes but it's more world council and less world war. poo poo is solved with getting stuck in and finding things out. This is a pretty fair assessment and probably why I love the series so much because I really appreciate characters and relationships (both romantic and non) and I really appreciate how seriously violence is handled (for the most part barring you-know-what) on a personal level.
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# ¿ Jul 14, 2020 03:37 |
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torgeaux posted:It's why my interest in the big story is less than in the individual stories that make it up. In order to justify that almost all of his friends and allies are loving despicable, the bad guys have to be orders of magnitude worse. Why are you friends and allies with rapists? There are worse things. Why are you friends and allies with the guy who runs prostitution, drugs and theft in your town? There are worse things. Why ... and so on. It really seems like sloppy writing getting papered over with new elements as time goes by. It’s the Oblivion war, but I don’t think that the things they’re trying to get people to forget have a specific group name like the Outsiders.
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# ¿ Jul 23, 2020 11:36 |
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Zore posted:Like for real who the gently caress decides to tell a rape victim 'Actually its totally your fault they mutilated you and scooped out your eye because you didn't explicitly tell them not to do that. K, time for you to get raped again.' I think it was supposed to establish/enforce the nature of interaction between the Fae being close to contractual even in the worse circumstances but yeah, it’s hosed. It also gets worse. Edit: Trigger warnings and spoilers might be good if we keep discussing it. DreamingofRoses fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Jul 27, 2020 |
# ¿ Jul 27, 2020 23:00 |
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 22:58 |
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Sloth Life posted:I will avoid anything else written by Anne Bishop like the plague then. Funnily enough those specific Anne Bishop and LKH were really the first adult ‘romance’ series I got into as a tween. Now that I think I about it, it explains a lot. DreamingofRoses fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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