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-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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Ask him if the Lance of Longinus/Spear of Destiny has any special powers or mantle associated with it, similar to the Swords of the Cross and the Knight mantle.

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-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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Captain Capacitor posted:

I'm going to be meeting Jim next week when he wanders by Seattle, so if you have any pressing questions I'll blatantly ignore them see what I can do.

At another signing he said there are seven vampire courts in total. Ask him what the names of the three we haven't heard of are, where they're from? Maybe even how they feed?

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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Stealthgerbil posted:

You should ask him if he is ever gonna bring bigfoot back.

Do it to music.

You bringing Bigfoot back?
Them other authors don't know how to act.

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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Oroborus posted:

I went to use my Kindle for the first time in a couple of months to get it ready for Tuesday....and it's completely dead. I don't even know what to do now...guess I have to buy a hard copy. Does anyone know if you can switch a kindle preorder to a physical one?

Do you have a tablet or smartphone? Android and iOS have really good Kindle apps.

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Oct 10, 2005

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Ika posted:

Some might consider this a spoiler, be warned (Ch 7)

Dude, seriously, the book isn't even out yet. Don't loving post stuff from the book here until Tuesday.

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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Fried Chicken posted:

Proven guilty he argues with the Merlin, Changes he talks identification of it early with Luccario

This is from last page, but it's stuck in my head like a popcorn kernel under my tongue.
I think you mean Luccio. Lucario is a Pokémon.

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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Imagine the threshold that he'll have with two daughters running about and, presumably, Murphy in the house. Imagen the wards he could build on that.

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Oct 10, 2005

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I just realized that Skin Game yells us what Demonreach meant in Cold Days when he saw Bob and went "Another one..."

Harry's brain baby is the other one.

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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New question for the thread: Do the Ghostbusters count as urban fantasy?

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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I'm listening through the audiobook of the first Alex Verus book and so far I'm not a fan of how he's writing women. Luna alternates rapidly between bland, useless, and emotional wreck without any other character traits that I've been able to pick up. Not to mention he calls the feminine air elemental dumb, whereas when describing the masculine lighting elemental the phrasing is "elementals aren't dumb, just limited". I still prefer it to the bullshit in the Mercy books but it's still bothering me. Does that get any better as the series progresses?

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Oct 10, 2005

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Are we certain that the man Harry calls Dad is really his father, biologically speaking?

His dad has been established as a good man, and the only picture of his dad and mom together has her already pregnant. There's also the strong possibility that Harry, per a comment from Kincaid, is not wholly human. What if Harry's mom was already pregnant when she met Dad? When Maggie died, he was a good and kind enough man to raise and love Harry as if he were his own.

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Oct 10, 2005

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Kaptain K posted:

It's written in the style of young adult, it's PG13. Adult subject matter =/= adult content.


So if the movie version of Full Moon were played and included the aforementioned scene where three werewolves gently caress and eat the corpse of a human they just killed, what rating do you think that would be?

Edit: loving autocorrect

-Fish- fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Sep 26, 2014

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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Kaptain K posted:

It would be rated R because the adult subject matter would be depicted explicitly (because the visual medium is inherently explicit). This is not the case in the books. Allusions to adult situations don't automatically make something "mature" or "adult".

You and I have differing definitions of the word allusion. That's not an allusion, that's an explicit depiction.

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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Wade Wilson posted:

Well, last we got word of Sanya was a grainy aerial photograph of him with radiation burns facing off against two Denarians in the Middle East, so at the very least he's going to be scarred the gently caress up next time we see him in a book.

Pretty sure radiation burns weren't mentioned at all.

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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Rumda posted:

The Gruffs never attempted to enter the house. Mortal property law extends to grounds and gardens. Magical power concerns itself with the building.

Also the angels weren't even there yet. They get stationed there at the end of Small Favor. Also it's pretty clear that this isn't just magical law and thresholds and poo poo. In Skin Game Gray and the Denarians both refused to step foot on the property, and everyone treated the fence as a barrier between danger and safety. It's painfully apparent that the entire property is under protection.

-Fish- fucked around with this message at 13:14 on Nov 1, 2014

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Oct 10, 2005

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The Vegas chapter of the third Dresden Files RPG supplement "Paranet Papers" is available for free on DriveThruRPG. 50 pages long and I'm about halfway through, so far it's REALLY good. Very excited to get the full book.

http://rpg.drivethrustuff.com/product/139271/Dresden-Files-RPG-Paranet-Papers-Vegas-Chapter-Early-Preview

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Oct 10, 2005

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Illuyankas posted:

I'm pretty sure the White Court will be one of the, if not the, next big faction to taken out of the picture entirely. Lara's resources are too much for Harry to have access to and retain as much tension, and I'm pretty sure Thomas is going to die by the final trilogy anyway.

Also there was some discussion about the world finding out magic is real a while back, and I'm hoping it's something so big it can't be ignored or excused, like a televised baseball match Harry's attending being attacked by a giant that's physical in nature so it leaves a body.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XLVII

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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thrawn527 posted:

I started the last Dresden book yet published last night. And yes, I read Side Jobs.

...I don't want to be done yet...I don't want to have to wait...

I've been reading these drat things since April, almost interrupted.

Read them again. You probably missed a clue somewhere.

This sounds like a sarcastic post but it's not.

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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I've been poking through the feedback copy of Dresden Accelerated and it's good. It's way more accessible and playable than the legacy Dresden Files RPG. It remains a very narrative-focused game while also having a much more structured ruleset. It also as new Fey Knight mantles, the Erlking's Huntmaster and Kringle's Senechal. Kringle's Senechal gets an optional ability where it can borrow Kringle's sleigh. There's also rules for playing a Valkyrie, a full-blooded Fae, and a Red Court Vampire. There's also very fun-looking rules for playing various specialized kinds of mortals like Criminals, Law Enforcement, Supernatural Experts, and others.

It's really, really good.

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Oct 10, 2005

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A. Beaverhausen posted:

New mantles? I feel like I have to track down a copy to keep up with the lore.

Kringle's Senechal may be the best new lore addition to the series I've ever seen.

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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tithin posted:

Care to elaborate? behind spoilers if you're concerned


The purpose of Kringle's Senechal is to foster and grow mortal belief in Santa Claus and his various incarnations. It has access to the Naughty and Nice list and can use that to determine what the greatest desire of an NPC is, and if it's not already in a scene it can abruptly declare that it was in disguise as one of the NPCs the entire time.
You can opt into abilities that give you access to the sack of toys, Santa's sleigh, illusion magic, the ability to sense failed attempts to summon Santa and show up in a nearly perfect Santa disguise, and a stunt that gives you just a flat bonus to actions committed in the name of strengthening mortal belief in Santa.

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Oct 10, 2005

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I'm gonna go against the flow and advise avoiding the Mercy Thompson series. It definitely never reaches Anita Blake levels of supernatural sex, but the romance arc still majorly ruins the series. The first few books are really promising but the romantic relationship gets into this poorly written sub/dom thing with her boyfriend as the dom, just with every instance of the words "sub" and "dom" replaced with "pack" and "alpha". This gets incredibly bad at the point where Mercy is raped by someone who drugs her with a mind control serum and is dealing with PTSD from it. Her boyfriend cures her of being raped and having PTSD by being ~sooo alpha <3 <3 <3~ and forcing himself on her while they're alone in his house.. That was the fourth or fifth book I think? I noped out hard at that point. See also, the women of the werewolf tribes ALL know Mercy and just hate her because unlike them, she can shapeshift whenever she wants, so she can have babies since she won't kill them by shapeshifting if she doesn't want to.

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Oct 10, 2005

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Darkrenown posted:

Does the forcey-cure happen later or something? I'm about a third of the way through the book after the rape and so far there's been nothing of the sort. The boyfriend did use ~alpha magic~ to make her drink from the fairy cup to heal her physical injuries, but there was nothing about curing her PTSD with it. He's also been very clear they're not going to do anything physical until she's had some therapy so I'll be very surprised if he turns around and forces her into sex.

The spoilery part of the book happens right at the end of the book, if I remember correctly.

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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Guys, I think I figured out this clever puzzle. It's Mama Margoo, guys. Mama Margoo is a person of color.

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Oct 10, 2005

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I was re-listening to Changes and I think Mac's subtle favoritism to Mouse, and Harry's observation that "I guess Mac is a dog person" is a clue to his identity but damned if I can figure out where to go from there.

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Oct 10, 2005

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I've been re-reading the Dresden Files and I've developed a wild theory that I'm 90% sure is true, despite having absolutely no evidence to back it up.
I'm pretty sure what two of Mother Winter and Mother Summer's mantles are, potentially their oldest and most powerful.

Mother Summer=Eve
Mother Winter=Lilith

Lilith is relatively obscure but figures into a number of religious mythos, my primary focus is on how she's painted in Jewish tradition. She was the first wife of Adam, banished from the garden for refusing to submit to his authority, and eventually became the mother of every evil and nasty thing that walks the face of the Earth. Compare to Eve, mother of life and humanity.

I have no evidence whatsoever but this feels like a very Jim Butcher thing.

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Oct 10, 2005

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Running a Dresden Files Accelerated game and one of my players wants to roll up a Libriomancer. I read the first book but it was some time between the release of Cold Days and Skin Game, so it's been a while. Does anyone remember the basics of the rules behind Libriomancy or have a write-up I can peruse? I really don't want to have to relisten to the whole dang audiobook.

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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biracial bear for uncut posted:

8. Don't allow Libriomancers into a Dresden Files universe, they will break it because their power set does not work with the rules of Magic in the Dresdenverse.

9. You're not the boss of me.

Edit: Realtalk I have a pretty solid group. We can handwave away the inconsistencies and we're building the mantle in a balanced way. I know my way around homebrew.

-Fish- fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Oct 31, 2018

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Oct 10, 2005

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Ornamented Death posted:

Famous last words of many a GM.

Homebrew failures are but the first stepping stones on the path to homebrew success.

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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rndmnmbr posted:

I'm just frustrated, is all. Jim needs to do something, other than leave people hanging for years that is.

Unless you've somehow already paid him money for the unfinished book, it's entirely possible that you're overreacting just a bit. If you haven't paid him money he doesn't owe you a book. Chill out and read a different book.

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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docbeard posted:

"Don't harass or otherwise be unpleasant to authors who aren't writing fast enough for your tastes (or at all)" is a fine sentiment.

"Don't dare to express disappointment or even have an opinion about a series of books you enjoyed basically disappearing without a trace" is dumb.

There's a big gulf between being disappointed and posting about the dude like they personally know him and calling for his retirement. Dude had a lot of really bad poo poo happen to him for a long time. Book's coming and everyone knows it. Folks need to chill a little.

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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torgeaux posted:

Why? Jim Butcher isn't here, he's not being attacked by this thread. This is no more than venting, and venting doesn't hurt anyone. Telling people to chill for posting here is meaningless. This is exactly where they shouldn't be chill.

I like this thread and it sucks seeing people making GBS threads it up by wheeling out their best Doctor Doom impression to complain about an author taking longer than they want.

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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torgeaux posted:

Sure, but it happens infrequently, and they have a point. It's frustrating as hell for a book to take a long time. They've got no right to the book one second before the author is done, but they have every right to be frustrated.

Like I said, being frustrated is fine. I'm frustrated with it myself. Jim Butcher is probably frustrated with it. But also it's the internet in 2018 and echo chamber frustration with content creators turn into real life harrassment on a regular basis. Folks are talking about the series "disappearing without a trace" like he didn't release a short story that ties into the upcoming book literally two days ago, or a short story compilation a few months ago.

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Oct 10, 2005

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torgeaux posted:

Real life harassment is bad. It's not the inevitable result of people here bitching though, and the online bitching in a thread like this shouldn't receive the same condemnation.

I went through the frustration phase. Now, I'm just done with the series. Not because Butcher failed me, but as the natural consequence of the delay. I've moved on, and my thirst for the next book has dampened....a lot. I'll still buy it, but I won't go back and re-read he series in advance like I have previously, I won't buy the hardcover AND the kindle, and I'm not particularly excited about it. I'm not rushing out to read the short story, either.

Yeah and it's not getting the same condemnation from me at least. Literal harrassment would be worthy of a little more than "y'all are overreacting and sound like doctor Doom, chill out" which is all I've said at this point. I'm aware it's not inevitable but it's possible, especially with nobody saying "hey maybe cool it a little, it's a book that you haven't even paid for yet". I don't feel like that's an unreasonable concern or an unreasonable response, but hey I could be wrong about it.

Edit: Also I'll definitely say, after looking back the tone of the original post I was referring to reads a lot less severe after being awake for a few hours than it did when I'd just gotten out of bed.

-Fish- fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Dec 26, 2018

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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torgeaux posted:

An author writes a book, ostensibly part of a series. Because he does a good job, readers buy the next installment. And the next. He entertains the readers, and makes them want more...that's part of his job. Why are people surprised then at the logical progression of their feelings when the author doesn't hand out the next pellet when the bell is rung? People SHOULD be impatient, because the author did everything he could to build their expectations, which are perfectly reasonable.

Does the author owe the readers? Of course he does, he worked hard to make them want that next book. Now that they do, it's a bit churlish to say that they are being unreasonable. And bitching about an author who has failed to meet the expectations he set is what the internet is for (and porn). And literally no one is hurt by any of this, and the author reaps a benefit because bitching drives interest.

Unless the readers paid him money in advance for the next book, the author doesn't owe them poo poo. It's fine to be frustrated with the delay, literally everyone in this thread including me is frustrated with the delay. Being frustrated with a delay doesn't magically turn into the author owing you something you haven't paid him for. What's surprising is the level of entitlement y'all have by making these claims of being owed something.

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tithin posted:

Where's he posted it because on looking at his twitter, he goes months without posting anything substantial.

http://www.jim-butcher.com/faq/upcoming-works

Jim Butcher posted:

As of December 17th, 2018, the current draft of the novel is up to chapter 38. Progress!

-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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tithin posted:

Cool - is this his official site, or fan run? Not that I'm doubting the veracity of information or anything, just surprised none of that was getting put on his twitter which was where I was keeping an eye on.

That's the official site. He rarely uses Twitter these days because of harassment issues.

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Oct 10, 2005

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tithin posted:

Authors are no less workpeople than anyone else. They shouldn't be abused for not having finished their thing, but at the same time, they shouldn't get a pass because writing is hard

Being an author with nowhere to write for a number of years is probably a good reason to get a pass though. I know a few authors, less successful than Butcher by a longshot but authors all the same. Every single one is basically incapable of working without a dedicated space where they can isolate themselves and control their environment. He has a place like that now and is writing at what looks like a pretty steady pace.

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Oct 10, 2005

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tithin posted:

From you, to start with.

Asking where the book is, doesn't entitlement make.

If asking where the book is turns into sending abuse, then it's entitlement and can gently caress off.

You're absolutely correct, one person asking an author about the next book is not harassment.

We've reached a point where it's basically impossible for the man to use social media despite being pretty open about the status of the book due to people just bombarding him instead of taking 5 seconds to Google it, and without any tone of voice or body language to carry meaning referring to whether or not the author deserves a pass can be easily misinterpreted by the person on the other side of the screen. Especially in a discussion where some folks are already heated up over the subject, and some folks (not referring to you) are genuinely acting like entitled shits.

Nobody's saying one person or another don't deserve information on where the book is, the issue is that information is the 2nd result on google if you search "where is peace talks", so addressing the author directly on the matter is not a beneficial course of action and only results in added stress on the author. The main point of contention is people lining up and saying Butcher owes them a book, rather than information on the status of the book.

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-Fish-
Oct 10, 2005

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tithin posted:

I'm disconnected enough from UF that I basically check into this thread about once every 6-12 months looking for new stuff to consume.

I've already made it plain that I do sympathise with him, as to why it's not out, and yes the other dude does have a point that technically he doesn't owe us anything because we haven't paid for the book (laying aside that we technically can't purchase the book yet, so the basis for his point is somewhat moot), so why he can't (or refuses to) see the point that I and others are making that there's been an expectation set, that the author himself encouraged, for the book to have been out by now is somewhat farcical.

No one deserves abuse for making something popular, and I'm not condoning it.

You are absolutely correct on all points, I don't really feel like you and I disagree on this matter to any significant degree. There is an expectation that has been set by the author, and having an expectation unfulfilled sucks and is frustrating. I'm right there with you. That said, as fans our social contract with Jim Butcher basically amounts to "He will sell this book to us when it is ready to be sold". The book is being actively written, the author has been very communicative about the delays and has been providing reasonable estimates on the release date as circumstances change. As long as these things stay true Jim's holding up his end of the bargain, all the same I have no issue with folks being frustrated with those circumstances. I'm frustrated with the delays myself.

This thread's the main source of info on UF books on this site, and the majority of folks who use it are folks who just dip in every few months to check for news on their favorite series because this is generally a very reliable news source. If everybody's talking, incorrectly, about Butcher not working on the book or what have you it's gonna get taken as fact by folks who have the reasonable expectation of accurate info in this thread. Operating on that false information, it's really reasonable to be even more frustrated. All I'm trying to do is clear up misinformation, and I apologize if that came across as a personal attack from me. poo poo's tough out there, I don't want anybody dealing with extra needless frustration from something that's supposed to be exciting and fun.

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