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LordSaturn posted:I mean, if you really want it to be the same format, why call it by a different name? this is assuming "cEDH" comes from competitively oriented players self-identifying and not from casual players trying to otherize people who like expensive mana rocks.
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I agree that people complain about other casual players over actual cEDH players, people playing 10 decks aren't gonna sit at casual tables anyway. It's more that in-between region right after tuned budget decks that gets people salty, I think.
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Feb 14, 2021 17:34
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LordSaturn posted:I mean, if you really want it to be the same format, why call it by a different name? we...we don't. cEDH is EDH. It always has been and always will be. The c just indicates the power level and mentality being brought to the table. It's no different than saying "I play low power-level or mid or etc" We kinda discuss this all the time, you know.
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Feb 14, 2021 18:42
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It's just shorthand to convey the fact that: A) decks are built to win B) it's played at the highest power level possible in the format C) budget is (rarely) a factor D) play decisions should optimize your chance to win If you wanted to sit down before every game and go over that each time, you could. Or you could just say "hey, let's label that style as cEDH" and save yourself the time. I really don't care about twitter drama or content makers being dumb. The format is in an amazingly healthy spot with a ton of options for all power levels. It's fun, fairly balanced, and *fun*. poo poo stirring is a good way to get views but it's not positive for the game, so I prefer to ignore it and not drag it into the thread here. For the most part, this is a chill place to talk about a format we all enjoy.
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Feb 14, 2021 19:27
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I play a lot of magic. I play a lot of limited. I play a lot of vintage cube. I play a lot of magic. I play a lot of edh. I play a lot of cedh. It's a subset, not a competitor. This shouldn't be that hard.
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Feb 14, 2021 21:35
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Bust Rodd posted:My Walmart had dockside precons still on the shelves as recently as Halloween, the magic the gathering players here are too small of a group for there to be 100 precons at every Walmart within driving distance, but never the less the spice must flow I guess I had a slight memory I'd seen them recently and yep, my Walmart still has three of the Dockside pre-cons sitting
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Feb 14, 2021 22:21
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TheKingslayer posted:I had a slight memory I'd seen them recently and yep, my Walmart still has three of the Dockside pre-cons sitting The Target and Meijer closest to my house are also directly sandwiching a LGS so every good precon gets bought up immediately, which is unfortunate.
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Feb 14, 2021 23:56
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Is there a good iOS app for constructing and uploading decklists for critique?
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Feb 15, 2021 05:25
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Clawtopsy posted:Is there a good iOS app for constructing and uploading decklists for critique? Just use the moxfield website? Is there some reason you need an app over a website?
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Feb 15, 2021 23:01
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So the Stax Koma deck was fun as hell but it locked down the board easily and my buddies got pissy about it so I think I need to redesign it to a token heavy, go wide with big damage and individual removal. I'm also hoping my friends realize removal is important and stop focusing only on their decks winning but adding removal to stop other people from winning. Over 4 games we went close to 20 turns with zero Stax effects out and not a single exile or removal effect was pointed at Koma.
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Feb 16, 2021 00:42
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pseudanonymous posted:Just use the moxfield website? Is there some reason you need an app over a website? I have frequent connectivity issues that can tank what I have entered on other sites
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Feb 16, 2021 00:56
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Clawtopsy posted:I have frequent connectivity issues that can tank what I have entered on other sites Moxfield autosaves after every change.
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Feb 16, 2021 01:44
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Rythe posted:Over 4 games we went close to 20 turns with zero Stax effects out and not a single exile or removal effect was pointed at Koma. Jesus, that sounds miserable. What the heck kind of decks are in that group? Precons modified to be worse?
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Feb 16, 2021 02:21
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Aranan posted:Jesus, that sounds miserable. What the heck kind of decks are in that group? Precons modified to be worse? TBF, I can see no one wanting to use removal on Koma when it's just going to blank it. That said, even the precons have SOME kind of interaction.
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Feb 16, 2021 02:46
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Spot removal can be a hard medium against Koma, but then again, Koma's like a 3/10 on the threat scale so whatever.
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Feb 16, 2021 02:54
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Helm of the Host is funny for Koma, you get a new Koma and each Koma makes more serpents.
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Feb 16, 2021 02:55
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Yeah helm is super fun in it but all the decks I play against are all fairly tuned and fairly high in power but they are all very focused on hitting cards to help themselves win. Spot removal gets over looked alot and I'm trying to subtlety teach them that streamlined decks are great but not stopping an opponent from winning is important to. My other group i play with will love Stax Koma and we run so much exile and removal threats don't stay around long. Toshimo posted:Spot removal can be a hard medium against Koma, but then again, Koma's like a 3/10 on the threat scale so whatever. Agreed but Koma is a super fun casual commander that can get stupid fast, none of use are CEDH players and a turn 4 Koma is a pain to deal with if you don't have a exile effect. I'm going to keep the stax set up for my other group and turn Koma into a big rear end smashy deck. Rythe fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Feb 16, 2021 |
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Feb 16, 2021 03:09
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I can't believe my Orah cleric tribal deck pulled off two wins yesterday! Turns out there's enough decent creatures that are incidentally clerics to put a deck together, and getting them back from the yard for free is good.
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Feb 16, 2021 09:56
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Reminding people here who are interested, I have spent thousand of dollars printing proxies for myself and friends. I'm planning on putting in another order at the end of the month and am going to experiment on full proxy decks. The cost per card is under 20 cents if you order their biggest 'deck' (632 cards) I'm not allowed to post details here because of  , but if you are curious, you can PM me to request the deets.
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Feb 18, 2021 12:04
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Let's do some theory crafting, if you where to design a deck that is 35 lands and say 50-55 removal spells what would you run as a commander and win con? I kind of want to build a kill everything troll deck.
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Feb 19, 2021 00:44
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Sounds like Syr Konrad to me.
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Feb 19, 2021 00:49
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Rythe posted:Let's do some theory crafting, if you where to design a deck that is 35 lands and say 50-55 removal spells what would you run as a commander and win con? https://www.goonhammer.com/commander-focus-take-it-to-the-limit-aegar-the-freezing-flame/ This is basically a deck that tries to give your opponents creatures and uses mass removal spells with the new "excess damage" mechanic to draw cards and kill everyone.
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Feb 19, 2021 02:01
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Rythe posted:Let's do some theory crafting, if you where to design a deck that is 35 lands and say 50-55 removal spells what would you run as a commander and win con? Thraximundar Grixis control
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Feb 19, 2021 02:39
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Tariel pact/reanimator if we wanna get spicy with 7cmc commanders
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Feb 19, 2021 02:49
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Child of Alara also has extreme meme potential in terms of “no one ever gets to have anything”
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Feb 19, 2021 02:50
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Bust Rodd posted:Child of Alara also has extreme meme potential in terms of “no one ever gets to have anything” This is the correct answer. When your commander is board wipe on a stick which gives you access to literally All The Removal, there isn't much else to say.
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Feb 19, 2021 02:58
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Bust Rodd posted:Child of Alara also has extreme meme potential in terms of “no one ever gets to have anything” This was my first idea actually but I need to find ways to win other than people quiting. I know the deck wouldn't be serious but it has a chance to be fun and could be interesting to brew.
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Feb 19, 2021 02:58
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Rythe posted:Let's do some theory crafting, if you where to design a deck that is 35 lands and say 50-55 removal spells what would you run as a commander and win con? Pako/Haldan are also pretty solid, just beating face with Pako and keeping the board clear with "drawing" 4 extra cards every time you attack is pretty effective. My cEDH Pako deck is pretty close to ramp + removal + Pako as a decklist and wins a LOT of games just by casting random stuff off the top of everyone's deck and attacking.
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Feb 19, 2021 03:10
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Infinite Karma posted:Elsha of the Infinite can be pretty lean on wincon and just lean on value, and is part of a draw-your-deck combo with Sensei's Divining Top, or can get really big with Prowess and storming. Plus Jeskai has a lot of control oriented removal and countermagic spells. And if you draw your deck, Thassa's Oracle is an easy single-card include. Mind sharing your decklist for Pako and the good boy? I like the combination the commander's offer and how unique they are.
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Feb 19, 2021 03:24
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Rythe posted:Mind sharing your decklist for Pako and the good boy? I like the combination the commander's offer and how unique they are. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Rw2WYRuMGEm6JZ9tqQSnJw
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Feb 19, 2021 03:31
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I love me a budgetless deck but if my friends see me get 5 mana on turn 2 again they may not invite me any more. I can take a cedh list and bring it down in level, I actually find it alot more fun playing lower powered environments lately. It's alot more relaxed and you see so much more unique interactions. I'll check out your decklist and see what hotness you brought, thanks for the link.
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Feb 19, 2021 03:40
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I absolutely love my Ashling, the Extinguisher deck, it does its best to kill every creature it can.
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Feb 19, 2021 03:59
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That brings back memories of 60 card table top magic when I was younger and that was a feared creature to run up against. So much fun to buff up and murder everything.
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Feb 19, 2021 04:03
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Bust Rodd posted:Thraximundar Grixis control Yeah this. I used to have a Thraximundar deck designed for 1v1; it was just a fuckton of discard, counter and removal with a splash of card advantage.
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Feb 19, 2021 04:09
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Glissa the Traitor suffers not a creature to live, if you're looking for a serious removal commander.
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Feb 19, 2021 04:47
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The Shortest Path posted:Glissa the Traitor suffers not a creature to live, if you're looking for a serious removal commander. 
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Feb 19, 2021 08:41
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If you go the route of making people sacrifice their stuff and also add in some discard effects, Tergrid could work. Blowing up everyone's stuff is great, but blowing it up and then killing them with their own cards is even better.
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Tegrid is such a unique commander and I love everything about that design, the down side is the second that commander gets presented I feel like you are target #1.
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Feb 19, 2021 14:34
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I was just going over this last night with my casual pod. There are commanders that are inherently unfun to play against no matter what, if you’re constantly finding yourself in the position of not knowing what deck to play because you’re too concerned with power level, just pick a Commander that isn’t obviously gonna be a huge headache for your pod. Anyone sitting down to a table with a Tergrid deck is essentially a Leovold//Braids player... they aren’t concerned with anyone else’s fun, and you shouldn’t feel bad about bullying them and killing them. This is basically true of any Grave Pact strategy deck, kill on site until they make nicer decks lol
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My friend who hosts my pod has this incredibly insufferable Zedruu stax/pillowfort/group hug deck which they pull out every now and then and everyone's reaction is to loudly groan and make them target #1.
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