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I imagine it will be like The One Ring Protection from Everything but Spirits Indestructible +Lots Equip 1 Unequip 8 At the beginning of your end step, an opponent chosen at random gains control of the creature equipped with the one ring.
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Obviously the One Ring should be a MDFC with Sauron.
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Feb 25, 2021 20:10
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Are they using the New Line cinema aesthetics? I'm going to be honest, as wonderful as the books are, I have a very hard time imagining Boromir as anyone but Sean Bean anymore.
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Feb 25, 2021 20:13
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“Could Gandalf beat Urza?” is just the Wizard version of “Goku vs Superman”
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Feb 25, 2021 20:20
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Tom Bombadil card.
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Feb 25, 2021 20:21
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Clawtopsy posted:Tom Bombadil card. He'll be banned before release.
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Feb 25, 2021 20:41
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Jesus, if they had announced Walking Dead now and this Warhammer and LOTR last year, that would have much more greatly acclimated the fans for the upcoming hellscape, and may have partially mitigated the backlash. The massive incompetence on display in that gently caress up somehow continues to grow!
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Magnetic North posted:Jesus, if they had announced Walking Dead now and this Warhammer and LOTR last year, that would have much more greatly acclimated the fans for the upcoming hellscape, and may have partially mitigated the backlash. The massive incompetence on display in that gently caress up somehow continues to grow! Or... or... or they decided this after the Walking Dead. Sort of like a KFC double down, but no chicken.
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We have these crossovers now precisely because TWD was their best selling stand alone product last year, they said as much. “We heard the backlash but it was also our most successful secret lair by a very large margin, so you can expect to see more products like this!” were almost their exact words.
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WotC is whaling, they don't care if 90% of the playerbase hates a decision if the other 10% buy the poo poo out of it.
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Bust Rodd posted:We have these crossovers now precisely because TWD was their best selling stand alone product last year, they said as much. that blows my mind. like 5 years ago maybe that would've made sense but TWD is still that popular somehow? insanity
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The logistics of this is interesting to me. I know normal sets are planned 2+ years out. Since Secret Lairs are printed on-demand, they likely don't have as long of a run-up, but I would be curious as to how long that process is. The other question is: the other Secret Lairs we heard about once they happened, but that was because there was no negotiation with other rightsholders because they were one and the same. Are we hearing about this now because the agreement was just made and it ends up being public for some practical reason? There was no 'hype press release' for other ones, but this is the first of this sort.Bust Rodd posted:“We heard the backlash but it was also our most successful secret lair by a very large margin, so you can expect to see more products like this!” were almost their exact words. That quote is why I'm selling out of the game. When it happened, I uninstalled Arena because I didn't want to give them money, but was willing to see if this was a lesson they could learn from. When it was clear that they would be doing it again, I decided it was time to get out. I'm probably the only one, though, especially among players who've been with the game since the 90s. Also, it'll be good to get in the clear before the Terfy Potter Secret Lair. If the ink was already dry on that one, it's gonna be so, so much worse.
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It doesn't look like a harry potter set, tbh. It's just a magic college which isn't unique to HP. People online saw that and made the connection and ran with it. Unless you also think Terry Pratchett, the jedi academy, Wizard of Earthsea, Wheel of Time, the Witcher, etc are all also harry potter knock offs then maybe wait a bit before doing a ride-by in the thread on your high horse.
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I think the concern is less 'is strixhaven hogwarts?' and more 'does Hasbro have the license for harry Potter merch'?.
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Magnetic North posted:The logistics of this is interesting to me. I know normal sets are planned 2+ years out. Since Secret Lairs are printed on-demand, they likely don't have as long of a run-up, but I would be curious as to how long that process is. The other question is: the other Secret Lairs we heard about once they happened, but that was because there was no negotiation with other rightsholders because they were one and the same. Are we hearing about this now because the agreement was just made and it ends up being public for some practical reason? There was no 'hype press release' for other ones, but this is the first of this sort. There's hype because these aren't secret lairs. The 40k will be a commander deck precon set, possibly even the 5 deck series for 2022 and the LotR will be a set.
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I think the whole concept is dumb, but I wrote WotC off as prioritizing money making opportunities over the integrity/health/spirit/whatever of the game a while ago so it isn't surprising. We'll get 40k commander decks, some LotR supplemental product, but do not hold your breath thinking there won't be more exclusive cards with an outside IP printed in a secret lair. As they said, it was their best selling SL ever, so that cow will get milked again.
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When I say it'll be worse, I'm referring to the backlash, not necessarily the game piece content. If they are introducing non-binary planeswalker characters at the same time that they are giving money to Joann, fans are gonna loving lose it. Which, ya know, perhaps they should.
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I’d love to live in a world in which fan backlash wasn’t a complete guarantee but that world isn’t Earth. It literally doesn’t matter what they announce, people get upset. MtG literally already has wizards and treasure hoarding dragons and magic rings and hobbits and wizard school and orcs, none of this IP stuff seems anywhere near as off as TWD stuff.
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Is there any actual indication that MtG has or will have a license for Harry Potter or are people just inventing poo poo to get mad over?
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They are 100% making poo poo up to be mad at. There are, like, 5 Wizard schools on Dominaria, wizards going to school to become the Wizard police is literally Teferi and Jhoira TIME COPS Wizard School has been part of Magic since day 1.
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There has never been any mention of Harry Potter by WotC. It's just "magical college" and people are baaelessly running with the association. Look at the classes/majors mentioned in the article. It's not stuff like potions or wand waving. It's biology, math, poetry, history. Aranan fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Feb 26, 2021 |
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TBH the fact that Strixhaven has non human students and the animal people seem front and center has already basically completely divorced the set from the Potterverse in my mind. The HP books are so simplistic and bad you actually don’t need to work hard to make a better idea.
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I know the professor was talking about was talking about WotC about to ink the deal for an HP Secret lair right before the Rowling TERF stuff came up again in the fall but I don't know if got it from an inside source or just conjecture.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I know the professor was talking about was talking about WotC about to ink the deal for an HP Secret lair right before the Rowling TERF stuff came up again in the fall but I don't know if got it from an inside source or just conjecture. It is just conjecture at this point, but I don't think it's the wild speculation as people are saying. MTG mines whatever it can for creativity,. Normally it's been myths and legends, but maybe they're starting to run out of those. Still, it's always something with the serial numbers filed off. That slightly changed with Ikoria, which had the monsters things, which made us wonder if it was a chicken or egg for the Godzilla promo. At least, it made me wonder, maybe I was the only one. Then Walking Dead happened, which was just all egg. So, is Strixhaven the chicken or the egg? The use of the word Strix (which means owl in latin) kinda makes me think Potter. (I've never read the books/movies, but I know that much.) The way that it's clearly a college for young adults and not for very young children (based on the key art shared so far) makes me think it's doing its own thing. What does Maro's social media campaign talking about other wizard schools mean? Who knows? Just Wizards. Hopefully no terf secret lair ever comes out, and we are all worried for nothing. But I hardly think it's ridiculous to see this and wonder if something very bad is coming.
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I know design pipeline and all that but I really felt like Ikoria was trying to cash in on Monster Hunter but that might just be me.
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Dias posted:WotC is whaling, they don't care if 90% of the playerbase hates a decision if the other 10% buy the poo poo out of it. To be fair, that *is* how you run a successful business.
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Gynovore posted:To be fair, that *is* how you run a successful business. If that business is an app on a phone maybe. That's not necessarily a good way to generate long-term value from IP or a reputation, but it can certainly earn you a big bonus in this quarter and then you can move on somewhere else where you lather rinse and repeat.
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Toshimo posted:Is there any actual indication that MtG has or will have a license for Harry Potter or are people just inventing poo poo to get mad over? Wizards bought the TCG rights to Harry Potter twenty years ago. For all we know, the contract had a clause at the bottom saying "Oh yeah, you can use Harry in MTG in you really want to".
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To steer the thread away from doom and gloom for a moment... I'm thinking of building a Sphinx tribal deck, but I'm kinda stuck on what commander to use. The obvious answer is 'Unesh', but I also really want to use all the Azorius sphinxes out there. Right now I'm leaning towards either Azor or Isperia, Supreme Judge.
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serefin99 posted:To steer the thread away from doom and gloom for a moment... I have a fun deck built around Yennett that's "flying tribal." It slams out mid and high CMC fliers for free, and a ton of them are sphinxes. She would let you use all your Azorius options, plus splash in black.
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Railing Kill posted:I have a fun deck built around Yennett that's "flying tribal." It slams out mid and high CMC fliers for free, and a ton of them are sphinxes. She would let you use all your Azorius options, plus splash in black. Oooh, that sounds like fun. Do you think I could get a list, to help guide me?
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serefin99 posted:Oooh, that sounds like fun. Do you think I could get a list, to help guide me? Sure! I don't have an up to date deck list ready, but I'll post one tonight when I get home. I need to update that one anyway.
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Toshimo posted:Is there any actual indication that MtG has or will have a license for Harry Potter or are people just inventing poo poo to get mad over? They can't do a Harry Potter / MtG crossover because the MtG universe has trans characters.
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I don't know why they need to do literal 40k and LotR.. I mean 40k okay maybe but Lotr... they could just rip it off basically but retell it like they did the Greek Myths in Theros Beyond death.
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pseudanonymous posted:I don't know why they need to do literal 40k and LotR.. I mean 40k okay maybe but Lotr... they could just rip it off basically but retell it like they did the Greek Myths in Theros Beyond death. Magic already has hobbits, magic rings, dragons that hoard treasure, and good and evil wizards who summon orcs and elves and treefolks and wraiths to fight each other. In fact, those are some of the very first magic cards. We've been riffing off TLotR literally the entire time.
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Bust Rodd posted:Magic already has hobbits, magic rings, dragons that hoard treasure, and good and evil wizards who summon orcs and elves and treefolks and wraiths to fight each other. In fact, those are some of the very first magic cards. We've been riffing off TLotR literally the entire time. Magic is 99% borrowed from D&D, and D&D is 99% borrowed from Tolkien, so we're already 98.01% there.
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I can't wait for Secret Lair: Minions, with all the cool Goblin staples in Minion-form.
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Maybe a Hasbro executive got drunk and bought the rights to the Hildebrandt bros art now they want reasons to do a wave of LotR secret lairs.
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serefin99 posted:Oooh, that sounds like fun. Do you think I could get a list, to help guide me? Sorry about the delay. Here's the Yennett deck: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/9sHHvm7x70KlFnAUzXaCdQ There's some easy swaps you can make to juice the manabase, and a few of the creatures (Serra Angel, Divinity of Pride, Sunscorch Regent) are kind of placeholders for acquiring better, more synergistic options. But you could use those slots for more sphinxes if that's your jam. Magister Sphinx and Sphinx Ambassador are good options if you have them. (Consecrated Sphinx isn't on the list because even CMCs are generally left out of this deck). The deck uses a lot of incidental scrying to load the top of the library, but that isn't strictly necessary to use Yennett. She can also usually find a safe opponent to attack, since she has both menace and flying. One you cheat out a few big bombers, the win route of the deck is simple: just attack the piss out of everyone exclusively with powerful fliers, often jacked up on anthem effects. It's fun in a casual table, but there's room to improve the manabase if you want to speed things up a bit.
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Railing Kill posted:Sorry about the delay. Here's the Yennett deck: 404
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