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taqueso
Mar 8, 2004




:bernget:


Fun Shoe

Renfro's is legit

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mischief
Jun 3, 2003


They're one of the few straight up legitimately hot salsas available around here at big groceries. Good stuff.

Glad to see Secret Aardvark getting big. It's better than sriracha at basically everything.

mischief
Jun 3, 2003


Cauterizer from Heartbreaking Dawns. Had it with some leftover fried rice and it's delicious. Really good job getting the sweet pepper flavor forward and then a long bright burn of heat.

Trinidad Scorpion ended up being a crazy good hot sauce pepper.

QuarkMartial
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]

Howler Monkey is delicious, but very watery.

Why does Da Bomb hurt so much?

Power of Pecota
Aug 3, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


QuarkMartial posted:

Howler Monkey is delicious, but very watery.

Why does Da Bomb hurt so much?

Extracts, that leads to the metallic taste there.

ZeroPrimal
Feb 24, 2010

The slave becomes the master.

That Secret Aardvark Habanero is some seriously good poo poo.

Quiet Feet
Dec 14, 2009

THE HELL IS WITH THIS ASS!?


Bum the Sad posted:

Refenros is loving gross if I am remembering right. I bought one of their salads and it was like thickened with corn starch and jelly like.

Their ghost pepper queso is awful and the only flavor it has is onion. I admit I haven't tried anything else from them but it hasn't left me eager to do so.

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT HOW I GHOULISHLY CELEBRATE THE DEATH OF CHILDREN TO TEACH THEIR PARENTS "A LESSON"


Quiet Feet posted:

Their ghost pepper queso is awful and the only flavor it has is onion. I admit I haven't tried anything else from them but it hasn't left me eager to do so.

that's discontinued i think.

Bum the Sad
Aug 25, 2002


Hell Gem

Quiet Feet posted:

Their ghost pepper queso is awful and the only flavor it has is onion. I admit I haven't tried anything else from them but it hasn't left me eager to do so.

I mean to type one of their sauces. Must have auto corrected to salads. Anyway yeah they suck.

the paradigm shift
Jan 18, 2006

Savagely destroying my mind, one brain cell at a time.

mischief posted:

Cauterizer from Heartbreaking Dawns. Had it with some leftover fried rice and it's delicious. Really good job getting the sweet pepper flavor forward and then a long bright burn of heat.

Trinidad Scorpion ended up being a crazy good hot sauce pepper.

it's really the best of the super hots imo and I'll try any sauce that has it the few I've had were amazing

mischief
Jun 3, 2003


We cracked open several other bottles over beer and some boring rear end football game the other day:



Dirty Dick's - just good old school hot sauce. Great on chicken but overall tame. Kids liked it.
Heartbreaking Dawn's Reapercussion - Big fruit forward start and then pretty bright and intense heat. 7 Pot Primo I think takes the cake for just in-your-face up front hot and then this also has Carolina Reaper mash so the heat lingers for a while. Good hot sauce but not for the casual wing eater.
Kolohe Kid - Very sweet, very flavorful. Manages to bring out the flavor of a ghost pepper without really trying to just tear your palate up. This would be the poo poo on some good ramen or pho.
Zombie Apocalypse - Mostly vinegar at the start then just a sleepy gradual heat. It's hot but it's not offensive. Probably best for wings/fried chicken?
Garlic Reaper - Hot. Starts hot. Stays hot. Ends hot. Still hot. I think the garlic is just there so you can pour it.
Fear This! - Startlingly hot, startlingly quickly, but not like the old extract based stuff - still flavor, still can taste peppers, but god drat. This is an impressively hot sauce with almost a violent characteristic to it. Thankfully it's kind of like a "gently caress you" light switch, it doesn't cloy or stick around long. Great for brave wing eaters.
The Last Dab - Pretty tame. It's obvious that the focus was on flavor and that definitely shines through. This one has the YouTube built rep of being a real scorcher and it really isn't. It would be at home in really any spicy Asian dish and any traditionally hot Southern foods. Going to surprise the family next time I make collard greens.
Dawson's Ghost Pepper Mash - It's what's on the bottle. Bright, fruity, then really hot. No real attempt at making a sauce, this is just a good way to experience the basic Jolokia experience.

I don't know if I ever posted anything about the Puckerbutt sauces I've got but they're both amazing. Reaper Squeezin's is a ride and the Reaper Mash is similar to what Dawson's did with their Jolokia mash - blended up peppers with just enough vinegar to make it a "sauce".

It's only just starting to not burn my unmentionables.

Edit: Looking at Heatonist and saw this Fiery Fool...

pre:
Ingredients: Red  7 Pot Primo pepper mash (Red 7 Pot Primo Peppers and Vinegar), 
Reaper Pepper Mash (Reaper Peppers, Vinegar), 
Trinidad Scorpion Pepper Mash(Trinidad Scorpion Pepper, Salt), 
Jolokia Pepper Mash (Bhut Jolokia Peppers, Salt) 
Apple Cider Vinegar, Sun-dried Tomatoes, Garlic, Cumin, Himalayan Pink Salt
Goodness.

mischief fucked around with this message at Feb 5, 2019 around 21:29

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011




Grimey Drawer

tobasco buffalo?

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Herr Tog posted:

tobasco buffalo?

tabasco makes a handful of sauces that don't really see much distribution in basic grocery stores, you have to go to a specialist shop or mail order it.

https://countrystore.tabasco.com/ca...r-famous-sauces

I've never seen that roasted pepper one before, gonna have to try that.

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011




Grimey Drawer

uber_stoat posted:

tabasco makes a handful of sauces that don't really see much distribution in basic grocery stores, you have to go to a specialist shop or mail order it.

https://countrystore.tabasco.com/ca...r-famous-sauces

I've never seen that roasted pepper one before, gonna have to try that.

THIS ITEM DOES NOT SHIP TO CALIFORNIA

loving HELL

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Herr Tog posted:

THIS ITEM DOES NOT SHIP TO CALIFORNIA

loving HELL

I checked and it's on Amazon too as it turns out.

https://www.amazon.com/Pack-McIlhen...tabasco+buffalo

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011




Grimey Drawer

uber_stoat posted:

I checked and it's on Amazon too as it turns out.

https://www.amazon.com/Pack-McIlhen...tabasco+buffalo

thank you goon friend

mischief
Jun 3, 2003


Herr Tog posted:

THIS ITEM DOES NOT SHIP TO CALIFORNIA

loving HELL

I'm sorry you live in a horrible state.

Ordered because I have poor impulse control.

Culley's Roasted Carolina Reaper
Big Fat's 708 Optimus Primo
Hellfire Fiery Fool
Burns & McCoy Exhorresco
HEATONIST #1


mischief fucked around with this message at Feb 6, 2019 around 04:03

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012



Tortured By Flan

I just got a bottle of Los Calientes and I enjoy it a lot.

Pioneer42
Jun 8, 2010


uber_stoat posted:

I've never seen that roasted pepper one before, gonna have to try that.

Itís pretty good. Not especially hot, but focuses on flavor. Hints of balsamic, so it is a little sweet/tangy, and so pairs well with vegetables and meats.

mekilljoydammit
Jan 28, 2016

Me have motors that scream to 10,000rpm. Me have more cars than Pick and Pull

Working on my own hot sauce blends... today's experiment was trying to do something like Fiery Chipotle because I like the general concept a lot. Want to tweak the recipe a few more batches before I release anything but so far so good. Always been a hot sauce lover, it's just interesting to me how easy it is to try things.

Human Tornada
Mar 3, 2005

I been wantin to see a honkey dance.


Have you guys tried the Yellowbird Habanero condiment? I carried it around in my cart today but $6.99 seemed a little steep when my fridge is already filled with habanero sauces, so I got another bottle of Matouk's for $3 instead. What's Yellowbird got that Marie Sharp's and El Yucateco don't?

Also I got my seeds germinating (?) for my balcony garden when it gets nice out, this year I'm going for variety so only one of each:

fushimi pepper
naga bubblegum 7 yellow
carbonero
pink tiger x peach bhut
fish pepper
Freeport orange Scotch bonnet
Foodarama yellow Scotch bonnet
Caribbean red habanero
naglah brown
PDN x BBG7
primo x lemon drop

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!


I can't stop putting Louisiana on everything, please send help.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Human Tornada posted:

Have you guys tried the Yellowbird Habanero condiment? I carried it around in my cart today but $6.99 seemed a little steep when my fridge is already filled with habanero sauces, so I got another bottle of Matouk's for $3 instead. What's Yellowbird got that Marie Sharp's and El Yucateco don't?

Also I got my seeds germinating (?) for my balcony garden when it gets nice out, this year I'm going for variety so only one of each:

fushimi pepper
naga bubblegum 7 yellow
carbonero
pink tiger x peach bhut
fish pepper
Freeport orange Scotch bonnet
Foodarama yellow Scotch bonnet
Caribbean red habanero
naglah brown
PDN x BBG7
primo x lemon drop

yellowbird makes some non-hab sauces that you could try. I'm a fan.

I grew a fish chili plant last year. not too hot but it's a very pretty visually distinctive chili pepper.

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015

The whole human race
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uber_stoat posted:

yellowbird makes some non-hab sauces that you could try. I'm a fan.

I grew a fish chili plant last year. not too hot but it's a very pretty visually distinctive chili pepper.



Those look like some really awesome pickling peppers.

Planet X
Dec 10, 2003

GOOD MORNING

I grow them every year here in Maryland. They're wonderful.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Planet X posted:

I grow them every year here in Maryland. They're wonderful.

being from Maryland you probably already know this, but for those that don't, the history of the Fish pepper is interesting.

https://soilfulcity.com/2017/12/12/...-horace-pippin/

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010



Human Tornada posted:

Have you guys tried the Yellowbird Habanero condiment? I carried it around in my cart today but $6.99 seemed a little steep when my fridge is already filled with habanero sauces, so I got another bottle of Matouk's for $3 instead. What's Yellowbird got that Marie Sharp's and El Yucateco don't?

Also I got my seeds germinating (?) for my balcony garden when it gets nice out, this year I'm going for variety so only one of each:

fushimi pepper
naga bubblegum 7 yellow
carbonero
pink tiger x peach bhut
fish pepper
Freeport orange Scotch bonnet
Foodarama yellow Scotch bonnet
Caribbean red habanero
naglah brown
PDN x BBG7
primo x lemon drop

I have a yellowbird hab in my fridge right now. Itís a good hab sauce, but I like their non-hab sauces better. I put their red jalapeŮo sauce on everything, whereas the hab sauce comes out only every so often.

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015

The whole human race
sentenced
to
burn


uber_stoat posted:

being from Maryland you probably already know this, but for those that don't, the history of the Fish pepper is interesting.

https://soilfulcity.com/2017/12/12/...-horace-pippin/

Lol trading pepper seeds for bee stings


Also...


quote:

The origins of the fish pepper (Capsicum annum, the same species as the Tabasco pepper)



Tabasco is Capsicum Frutescens

I think one of the hallmarks of Frutescens is that the peppers grow pointing straight up rather than hanging down. Does the fish pepper do that?

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Dr_0ctag0n posted:

Lol trading pepper seeds for bee stings


Also...




Tabasco is Capsicum Frutescens

I think one of the hallmarks of Frutescens is that the peppers grow pointing straight up rather than hanging down. Does the fish pepper do that?

nah, it grows down.



speaking of peppers pointing straight up, alongside the Fish I had a Twilight Numex, another striking looking plant that looks like a lit up Christmas tree once it really gets going.

Power of Pecota
Aug 3, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


mischief posted:

We cracked open several other bottles over beer and some boring rear end football game the other day:

Zombie Apocalypse - Mostly vinegar at the start then just a sleepy gradual heat. It's hot but it's not offensive. Probably best for wings/fried chicken?
Garlic Reaper - Hot. Starts hot. Stays hot. Ends hot. Still hot. I think the garlic is just there so you can pour it.

If you had to pick between these two, which do you think is better overall? I've only tried Torchbearer's Son of Zombie which was good, but more like a barbecue sauce than anything and went super fast. I'm split between these two as the next one of theirs on the docket.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

500 CIGARETTES!


Timby posted:

I can't stop putting Louisiana on everything, please send help.

If one requires help for that, please let me know if anything works. I love that poo poo, albeit more as a condiment than a hot sauce outright.

Also, I have a confession to make: I tried the "spicer" Habanero McChicken (is this a Canada-only thing?) and it's so not-spicy that it pissed me the gently caress off and I've been whinging about it for two days. It's less spicy than Sriracha, and at that point why even bother calling something spicy? I expect the soon-to-be-added Ghost Pepper McChicken might be nearly as spicy as Green Tabasco, but probably not.

QuarkMartial
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]

Red Robin (burger joint) has a ghost pepper burger that is barely as spicy as a jalapeño. So, yeah, it probably won't be spicy.

mischief
Jun 3, 2003


Power of Pecota posted:

If you had to pick between these two, which do you think is better overall? I've only tried Torchbearer's Son of Zombie which was good, but more like a barbecue sauce than anything and went super fast. I'm split between these two as the next one of theirs on the docket.

Zombie Apocalypse is probably the more flexible sauce of the two, especially for fried foods.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

500 CIGARETTES!


What is even the loving point of making a food that's advertised specifically as being spicy, not spicy?

Who is the market for that? People who don't like spice won't buy it because it's marketed as spicy, and people who like spice will be pissed off because it's not spicy.

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015

The whole human race
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PT6A posted:

What is even the loving point of making a food that's advertised specifically as being spicy, not spicy?

Who is the market for that? People who don't like spice won't buy it because it's marketed as spicy, and people who like spice will be pissed off because it's not spicy.

There are entire swaths of the US that think anything more than black pepper is "way too spicy". It doesn't make sense to advertise it as spicy when it's not, but I'm sure they go through some taster panels and all the weaklings get a disproportionate amount of pull when they start crying and coughing after eating a jalepeno.

Human Tornada
Mar 3, 2005

I been wantin to see a honkey dance.


McDonald's? Red Robin? What were you expecting? If you're posting in a hot sauce thread and buying hot sauce online and poo poo, you really should have known better.

Guess what guys, there are millions of boring dipshits that eat bland chain garbage regularly and "like spicy food" and these kinds of people probably love Red Robin's Ghost Pepper Burger or whatever and think it's got just the right amount of heat.

These companies focus test their food and know their customer base as well, and they're probably smart enough to know that most people who actually want ghost pepper heat aren't going to waste their time in a McDonald's in the first place.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

500 CIGARETTES!


I'm past my days of trying to find the hottest poo poo available, I just like a good, spicy meal and I was hoping with the "ramp up" from spicy to spicier to spiciest it could be McDonald's testing the market for something that's actually no-poo poo spicy, at least to the level of standard rear end Buffalo wings. Like, I don't consider myself super-tolerant to spice. I enjoy a good vindaloo as much as the next guy but I'm not looking to singe my tastebuds and asshair off.

Other ghost pepper sauces I've tried are definitely too spicy for me (though some are quite alright) so I thought there was at least an outside chance this could be something.

QuarkMartial
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]

Human Tornada posted:

McDonald's? Red Robin? What were you expecting? If you're posting in a hot sauce thread and buying hot sauce online and poo poo, you really should have known better.

Guess what guys, there are millions of boring dipshits that eat bland chain garbage regularly and "like spicy food" and these kinds of people probably love Red Robin's Ghost Pepper Burger or whatever and think it's got just the right amount of heat.

These companies focus test their food and know their customer base as well, and they're probably smart enough to know that most people who actually want ghost pepper heat aren't going to waste their time in a McDonald's in the first place.

Oh calm down. I wasn't expecting a ton of heat from Red Robin either - I was making the same point you are. Stuff will be labeled Ultra McSpicy (tm) and it won't really be that hot. I mean, maybe spicy for people who, like you said, aren't used to much more spice than black pepper.

mekilljoydammit
Jan 28, 2016

Me have motors that scream to 10,000rpm. Me have more cars than Pick and Pull

Hey, since some were talking about growing stuff I'll ask here.

I'm new at bothering to garden because I've never found anything worth the trouble vs hitting farmers markets or good grocery stores. Getting the peppers I want changes that. How hard are these things to do, really? My intent is to plant things outdoors (I have a few acres of what used to be farm field) and screw with them minimally. I'm in SE Wisconsin in USDA 5a, so I'm not even sure of some basic things like "are they basically going to be annuals" and the like.

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Human Tornada
Mar 3, 2005

I been wantin to see a honkey dance.


It's really easy (or I've been really lucky) but you'll want to start now for this coming season.

I'm 6a. What I do is buy some seeds online and plant them in a jiffy peat greenhouse I bought for $5. In a couple weeks they'll sprout and I'll put them in a plastic tray under a fluorescent light for 18-ish hours day and water them when they look dry.

Once it starts to get nice out I'll move the whole tray outside for an hour a day for a few weeks to get them used to the wind and bright sun, you don't want to skip this step. Once I'm fairly certain we won't get another frost I put the best looking plants into pots filled with Miracle-Gro in the sun and just water them when the leaves look wilted and keep an eye out for anything weird looking. If something seems wrong I'll google it.

It can get a little more involved if you're planting in the ground with nitrogen deficiencies and fertilizers and pests and stuff like that but I rent so all my stuff is up on a balcony.

I'm totally lazy and pretty clueless about most of this stuff but I just follow the same basic routine and wind up with buttloads of peppers every year.

Your plants will die outside over the winter but you can take them inside and keep them alive that way if they're in a container. Or you can save the seeds from your peppers and use those next year to start, but they could have been cross pollinated with another plant and produce a different pepper than the one you took the seeds from. I just spend the couple of bucks on new seeds every year.

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