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sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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AP posted:

I doubt Jenny Varner has gone, customer support just has to please :lesnick: & Sandi and she's right in front of the camera on reverse the verse every week.

Yeah, definitely hard to believe, last thing this community needs is another SC community manhandler gone from the weekly info soap - but after all that noise from the past weeks, I don't know anymore, it's like everything can happen.

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sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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For a moment I thought we are going to get screenshots of shitposts exchanged between Chris Roberts and Derek Smart, too bad... whatever comes out of all this, I have this feeling it's going to get a lot uglier from here on onwards. If this path continues like that - which has me wonder who will crack first, Ben Lesnick or Lando?

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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So Jenny Var seems to be out of the verse...

Last Login 28.06.15 on her profile
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/profile/395699/ItsJenVar

Rest edited.

sorla78 fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Jul 7, 2015

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Ok, Lee Banyard the Audio Director also seems to be gone.

sorla78 fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jul 7, 2015

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Was up on Reddit but got removed / deleted and RSI dead as well.

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Derek on Twitter... something huge is up
https://twitter.com/dsmart



Derek Smart ‏@dsmart 2h2 hours ago

Something HUGE is in the works. In the meantime, I need you all to continue spreading this across all gaming. ty http://dereksmart3000ad.tumblr.com/post/123125564079/interstellar-citizens

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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So how does one maximize profit now?

Do I sell my account, re-claim it a couple of weeks later with UK customer suppport, saying my little son sold it away without my consent, put out a complaint with the FTC for my money back and sell all the stuff on my account all over again individually?

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Dante80 posted:

yes, please. That would be even better than the game coming out and being decent.

Yeah, you could scare people pre-ordering away with don't become a star citizen, better be derek smart.

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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We all know how this is going to end, the prophecy was laid out

This


is followed with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6L8NFcMakk

Yes, that is their new office (Backer's obviously didn't call before making a visit)

sorla78 fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jul 7, 2015

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Another soul saved.
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3cheds/regarding_threads_and_bad_information/

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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AP posted:





:lesnick: is terrible at damage control, funny how there's a song and dance when he joins and not a whisper when he goes.

I wouldn't even have found the above quote by Chris Roberts and realised it's Wingman's old job if :lesnick: hadn't bullshitted so hard.

Star Citizen.
Modules shipped - 1
Heads of production development lost - 2

Ben Lesnick and his wind-swaying belly - He ran runs a community forum for decades that was obsessing around every single little bit relating to Wing Commander, making it a quest to document every useless byte of news that was in any way exposed to Wing Commander - straight to researching what people were doing after having finished playing their roles in the interactive movie part of Wing Commander or even the movie Wing Commander itself - for decades. Some of the news featured would be well placed on TMZ, that's how close eyes were kept out.

So browsing IMDB and Tabloids is perfectly fine when Ben Lesnick and his WC CIC crew was involved, researching Linked-in in relation to a Space Sim that people are going to spent 0.1 Billion on is suddenly a problem. Now that is Derek Smart.

Maybe Ben Lesnick should contemplate about his own very roots in nerdspace and eat his own advise before trying to be smug about suddenly wielding the power of knowledge from the inside and selectively forgetting about his sucking up to developers from the outside.

Which brings me to that poor gently caress from Void Alpha, you remember that Mexican sweatshop that was initially working for cheap. The community was quick in blasting down one of those people writing about their awesome happy family working conditions, praising the social integrity of people like Ben and Eric (who continued the tradition to run a sweatshop of voluntary teenager helpers).

I am excited to see how they explain away Jenny Varner, who is now rumored to have been fired. Awesome! Same for Lance Powell, also fired. Yay! And the UK Character Art Team that simply quit, because it couldn't handle the bullshit that was dropped onto them, yeah but let's keep the Happy Family ruse running.

sorla78 fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Jul 9, 2015

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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I wonder though, with all these recent rumors isn't there any real journalist willing to research if there's a story for an investigative report? Maybe now with Derek Smart it gets surreal enough to warrant a good look. There must be enough disgruntled employees around, that could make good unattributed sources.

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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CashEnsign posted:

That was unironically a very good read, thanks.

Agreed. It's interesting that some of the Star Citizen backers (claiming the FTC hasn't got any jurisdiction) aren't aware that the FTC actually is now looking into crowdfunding fraud and has already settled its first case.
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2015/06/crowdfunding-project-creator-settles-ftc-charges-deception
Remember those Glassdoor reviews about money being spent to purchase personal cars and other stuff, I wonder how much it takes for FTC to take action, if only to audit their books.

sorla78 fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jul 9, 2015

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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PFA: Today at RTV they might be going to spin the departure of Jenny Varner (having been fired) and maybe Lance Powell (also fired)

-> Strangely enough Lance Powell was not only involved with LOTR as a Texture Painter but also working on Serenity and was a lead at Zoic working on BSG.

Also Derek Smart is going to make 920k Star Citizen backers cry.

sinister ‏@_sinisterBen 4h4 hours ago
@dsmart Aww man, I already made some friends on face book very sad/upset with your last article. One of them is $300 into SC.

Derek Smart ‏@dsmart 4h4 hours ago
@_sinisterBen he can kiss it goodbye. sorry to say.

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Drewjitsu posted:

How do you know that jenny was fired vs. her quitting? (for all the difference I'm the world that makes)

The same source of a source of rumors that brought up that she was gone and how you could verify that she was gone. The information provided was seemingly something a long this: ("name") + ("role") + ("has quit" or "was fired") seems that source wanted to remain unattributed.

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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CashEnsign posted:

The top post on Reddit today:



it's THE CHART v 2.0




The Chart 1.0 for reference



Well, that is a sad comparison. To make it somewhat interesting, they should at least, expand the metrics and shown the average amount of developers (to trim the administrative overhead) that have worked on each project and the amount of man-hours that have been delivered on each single project (to strip away the non-essential project tasks), right next to the amount of cash burn, then put Star Citizen up to it. Edit: Ah yes, please also add the projected and realized delivery date.

sorla78 fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jul 10, 2015

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Oct 11, 2012

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CLAM DOWN posted:

How does this even happen. What possible way do people like this explain spending $15,000 on a fake videogame

the surprising ways people manage to financially ruin themselves is always lead by a lack of impulse control. See Ben's magnificient way to carrot away all these seemingly intelligent people that totally have lost their will to critically reflect the way their cash is extracted out of their pockets into someones elses, without getting much face value for it, aside of broken promises.

Octopode posted:


You're stil not going to get a very accurate comparison that way. Each of the others were projects from well-established development stuidios, with things like tool chains, infrastructure, and the like in place.

There's quite a difference in starting a major project when you get to sit down with project leads, lay it out, and plan and when you have to sit down with your wife and autistic friends and figure out how to lease an office and buy an HR department.

True that, I was never saying the few metrics would be enough for a sound basis of comparison but at least that chart would be a bit more interesting. Thinking about the sort of metrics that enable you to properly measure and compare development projects is really just an endless stroll down a rabbit hole.

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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SirScorpion posted:

Playing EVE, I knew people would spend retarded amounts for fake internet star ships. I think selling now however is a bad idea with all the drama, but even more not much new "citizens" SC gained what 100-200k more over the last year?

The market picks up after the drop of a new trailer or a major advance, you can at least be sure CIG can pump out at least one more hype video

But that's the gambit. How much ship wealth can you convert back to hard currency. If Derek Smarts vision of reality comes to pass and overthrows the one from Chris Roberts, Star Citizen isn't going to be much more than a Virtual Ship Graveyard after today's 2nd coming article. So prices might plunge deep.

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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*sigh* only two weeks deja vu.

Derek Smart ‏@dsmart 51s51 seconds ago
@SkyHuntersLLC @wkdblueuk wait for my article which is going online later today. still awaiting legal sign-off

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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AP posted:



Derek Smart is probably the only person on the planet who would actually benefit from reading the SA Star Citizen threads.

He's also about to experience what CIG does, if you announce something, then delay it, expectations rise.

Derek Smart is too smart for me, what's he pointing out now - old facts that everyone already knows - i.e. no funding goals? Or is he speaking code for leaving a clue as to what his second article is going to feature that burns SC?

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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So what's he going to disclose that potentially could burn Star Citizen? That there are angel investors next to the backers, that get a real ROI, a direct line to Chris Roberts and all the ships with LTI for free?

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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FPS update is here:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14829-Star-Marine-Status-Update

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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There's a lawsuit for Goons against CIG for USD 85MM on forum moderation damages... Goon Citizen, sounds good.

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Octopode posted:

Putting aside his giant crybaby take my ball and go home routine, it turns out, Dr. Smart is the exact caricature of the average brown sea sailor, just with a louder megaphone and more resources to make everyone listen to his wails.

"I gave Christ Robots money so now I'm his boss and entitled to his company's internal information!"

So what's the gossip that we have so far,

Sports cars, expenses on goods of outrageous luxury, a trip to Monaco with a stay on the most expensive Yacht, Private Jets, Swiss and Luxembourg Bank Accounts, Mexican sweatshops, sociopaths, Drugs and Employees dropping out of their contracts like flies - gives the Star in Star Citizen a totally new meaning. Chris Roberts is the only Star Citizen there ever will be and we are funding the game that he always wanted to make. Maybe the game is about developing Chris Roberts...

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Who wants an encore?

Derek Smart ‏@dsmart 1m1 minute ago
@omgangrybees well, you all there report those 5 posts with those images, notify me when gone, & I will come back. ty

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Infinitum posted:

I miss Derek :(

Well he heard you.

Derek Smart ‏@dsmart 8m8 minutes ago
@iiGestalt @omgangrybees I will pop in within thebhr to see what the challenge is. ty


(He might not like his new AV though)

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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OhDearGodNo posted:

"Did anyone see the SA Reddit thread about how Chelsea’s ‘body language’ during her goodbye on RtV proved there was something sinister going on?"

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3639730&pagenumber=728

Did they ever explain why Jen got fired? I figure with Chelsea gone all the brown sea's attention went to her instead of someone else.

No explanations. Maybe she wasn't happy enough for the happy family CIG community team.

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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froody guy posted:

Can confirm. Leaked image of a typical test to become moderator at RSI



sorla78 fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Jul 11, 2015

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Octopode posted:

Which has exactly as much relevancy to a discussion about the Google Compute platform, its capabilities, and the feasibility of the described Star Citizen backend architecture running on that platform as anything Eonwe posts in the Bernie Sanders thread.

Repeating it doesn't make it a better argument, and insisting it's relevant just shows you don't understand the problem to begin with.

Based on your background and expertise and taking into account the outsider perspective, what do you think where the technical challenges reside that CIG might encounter and has to overcome?

Also, lacking the experience in Programming myself to have an educated opinion - but I am also wondering how their current progress on expanding/implementing additional capability into the CryEngine (such as 64bit precision) compares, are people with the relevant background actually impressed about the progress or are there unexplainable delays?

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Hi Derek

1) I was just wondering, do you have any information on some of the reasons why employees were let go? I understood that the Supervisory Art Director Lance Powell and Jenny Varner from the Community Team got recently fired. I also wondered why Martin Galway was gone so quickly as Audio Director.

2) Also, if Chris Roberts would offer you an executive role on his team, would you take it and help in getting this production back on track? If yes, what would be your first action in that role?

3) Last Question, when looking at the Ship Status List, what do you personally think how long it would take to implement all these ships?

4) Also do you have any further information on the relationship between CIG and Crytek?

5) Last Question is "Smart" your real last name or is this a stage name? :)

Cheers & thanks for popping in and spreading some facts.

sorla78 fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Jul 12, 2015

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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When reviewing some of the house of cards that have collapsed over years, it seems that one of the beloved corporate instruments used to fill Senior Management pockets is the corporate loan to a said employee with low interest to no-interest and eternal maturities. (let's take Mark Karpeles as a recent example), would any kickstarter/crowdfunding project actually be able to use these instruments in view of the recent FTC case ruling? Is there any regulation that restricts that kind of practice?

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Contingency posted:

Jump point is out: http://www.reddit.com/r/RSIsubscriber/

Want to stalk every Foundry 42 employee on LinkedIn? The building seating chart on page 41 has been provided for your convenience.


As the rumours stated, there isn't a character art team anymore.

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Art Dump on Polycount regarding the Gladiator
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=154261

Also taken from there:

Quote:
I do want to add that there's no way we'd be able to make ships look nearly as good without the expertise of my good friends and colleagues Nathan Dearsley and Neil Mcknight, without their combined knowledge and hard work, the ship development pipeline wouldn't be nearly as technically advanced and definitely wouldn't allow us such creative freedom

Quote 2:
And Bedrock - Our very own Nathan Dearsley played a huge part in the development of Alien Isolation, we're extreeemely lucky to have him on board for Star Citizen! As for the ship being a huge undertaking...it's probably the hardest thing I've ever made, but super rewarding!



Also the Stalker Post:

2D and Concept Art Foundry 42

- Sarah McCulloch
https://sarahmcculloch.carbonmade.com/about

- Daniel Joustra
https://www.artstation.com/artist/meta

- Stuart Jennett
http://stuartjennett.blogspot.ch/

- Richard Marsden (UI & Motion Graphics)
http://www.abitrich.co.uk/

- Gavin Bird (UI & Motion Graphics)
https://www.artstation.com/artist/gavinbird


Environment Art Foundry 42

- Daniel Conroy
https://www.artstation.com/artist/danconroy

- Jack Walker
http://www.jackwalker3d.co.uk/

- Karl Wrangback
http://karlwrangback.com/GameArtist.html

- Jake Gainey
https://swiss.carbonmade.com/about

- Hayo Keokkoek
http://www.hayo3d.com/

- Michal Hoz
http://www.michalhoz.com/

- Peter Wilkes
https://www.artstation.com/artist/peterjwilkes

- José Fernández Castro
n/a

- Eddie Hilditch (ex Crytek UK)
https://www.artstation.com/artist/tessier

- Daniel Harris
http://www.polycount.com/forum/showthread.php?t=131773

- Ian Stewart
http://ianstewartgameart.weebly.com/

- Nic Etheridge
http://nic.sarahparsons.co.uk/

- Jan Harcarik
http://janharcarik.blogspot.ch/

Leads:

- Ian Leyland (Global Environment Art Lead)
No PF, but his pinterest has some inspiration stuff based on various SQ42 elements.
https://www.pinterest.com/ian0098/

- Adrian Banninga (Lead Role unclear)
n/a

- Paul Jones (Art Director)
http://pauldavidjones.weebly.com/

VFX Artists

- Adam Stephens
n/a

- Mike Snowdon (Lead Effects Artist, Damage System)
n/a

- Sean Ellis
n/a

- John Reitze
n/a

Ship Art

- Jay Malhotra
https://jsm3dartist.carbonmade.com/

- Nathan Dearsley (Gladiator, Avenger, worked on Alien Isolation)
http://nathandearsley.blogspot.ch/

- Philip Howlett
n/a

- Robin Karlsson
http://robinkarlsson3d.com/

- Neil McKnight (Worked on Mass Effect Series)
n/a

- Matthew Trevelyan Johns (Gladiator)
https://www.artstation.com/artist/trevelyan/followers

- Colin Baynard
n/a

- Paul Delessi (Redeemer)
https://www.artstation.com/artist/neuro/followers


Leavers or no longer mentioned on the Seating Plan:

Character Art (All Quit)

Seth Nash (Senior Character Artist)
http://www.sethnash.com/

Andy Matthews (Lead Character Artist)
http://andyjmatthews.daportfolio.com/

Lance Wilkinson (Senior Character Artist)
https://www.artstation.com/artist/optinium

Concept Artists

Edon Guraziu (Concept Designer)
https://www.artstation.com/artist/guraziu

Andrew Ley (Concept Artist)
(Worked on Idris and Gladiator)
http://andrewleysketches.blogspot.ch/

sorla78 fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jul 18, 2015

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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AP posted:

Amazing that nobody thought sending that floor plan out with names on it wasn't a terrible idea and stopped it.

It's not like they don't know the type of audience they have.

Indeed. I wouldn't have thought they would release a floor plan, it certainly makes it easier to track fluctuations, now we just need the other offices.
Anyways - for a floor plan, there's a lot of spelling errors present, you would think HR would get something as easy as employee names right, especially if this document is published outside.

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Back to Topic - Merlin from the current PTU release.

http://imgur.com/a/2AE1r

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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That's the PC you get when your Character Art Team called it quits.

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Looks like a shark

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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Merlin in-flight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AXDOU2fJBM

sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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And another video - Battle Royale 12 players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYmN27qCU7c

Merlin Free Flight Porn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbd58ChsG4I

sorla78 fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jul 19, 2015

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sorla78
Oct 11, 2012

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So it seems that FiendishFeather entered the CIG Fanployee Sweatshop, his last contribution is this Merlin creation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GOsYxWEysw

sorla78 fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Jul 19, 2015

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