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Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz_NnHtyqyc



Nova is now available for preorder!
Richard Rider is the default, Sam Alexander will be available as an Enhanced costume.




Advance Pack 2 is also available for pre-purchase. Buying before October 10th gets you X-23 as a bonus character.


Game Features

Since reading paragraphs is hard, here's a list of cool things about this game.

- Every Hero (and Villain!) is their own, unique, fully fleshed out class, complete with three skill trees.
- Team-Ups, which allow you to have AI-controlled heroes fight alongside you or buff you passively.
- Tons of costumes from across every era of Marvel's comics, movies, and cartoons.
- Great co-op gameplay for teams of up to 5 players, and Raids for teams of 10.
- Fantastic voice acting from established Marvel voice actors(except for Storm and Rogue, they are bad).
- New characters and content added monthly, and sometimes even more frequently than that! (We get new costumes almost weekly!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENc8NgACZqg

This game is available on Steam! And it's recommended you play it through that. The non-steam version of the game is exactly the same and there's no server split or anything, but it doesn't update automatically.

If you prefer the non-steam downloader, you can get it here.


Okay, I'm interested, what is Marvel Heroes?


Marvel Heroes is a Free To Play Action-RPG set in the Marvel universe, designed by David Brevik (who you might know better as the lead designer on Diablo 1 and 2). It blends traditional ARPG gameplay with a superheroic flair, and has an in-game shop reminiscent of something like League of Legends. The key difference between this and other ARPGs like Diablo or Torchlight is it takes place in an MMO style, massively multiplayer environment. You're going to see dozens of players helping you clean the streets of New York, fight dinosaurs in the Savage Lands, face down the forces of AIM and Hydra, and venture to Asgard as you make your way through the Marvel universe to stop the likes of Doctor Doom, Loki, and more. And the story's growing all the time!


What's with the original game's Metascore? What's with the 2015 rebranding?

At launch, Marvel Heroes was a bad game. That's changed in a lot of big ways, and now it's turned into something really solid and really fun. It's gotten new content, new characters, and totally revamped almost all the original launch characters and content into something new and fun, based on player feedback. If you played the game near launch and liked the idea but hated the execution, you should try it out again.

The rebranding is basically just an attempt to escape the launch-window Metascore, since it no longer represents the game very well. They're planning on doing a rebranding every year.


So How Do I Get Started?



Choose a starter Hero:

Starter Heroes come in 2 tiers: 200 Eternity Splinters and 400 Eternity Splinters. These are not indications of power or ability, merely the cost to purchase a Hero later.

Eternity Splinters are a game currency primarily used to purchase new Heroes and are obtained at a fairly fixed rate during play (~1 Splinter every 8-10 minutes of gameplay). New Heroes cost 200-600 Splinters or a Random Hero box can be purchased for 175 Splinters. For an entire playthrough of the Story Mode on Normal Difficulty, you also receive a total of 200 bonus Splinters so you can purchase your first additional Hero.

It's not a bad idea to pick 400 Splinter Hero as your starter, since they would cost more to purchase later.


200 Splinter Starter Heroes:

- Black Widow: A mix of guns, explosives, martial arts, and knifing dudes in the face.
- Hawkeye: Ranged single target and AoE damage and with an assortment crowd control powers in the form of trick arrows.
- Storm: Ranged and AoE damage with a lot of different stuns and slows, by way of lightning, wind, and weather.
- Daredevil: A melee hero with a few ranged attacks. Daredevil's combo system is cool, his attacks are effective, but he's kind of boring to watch.

400 Splinter Starter Heroes:

- Rocket Raccoon: A pet-based hero, Rocket is capable of dealing out good damage on his own and better damage alongside his turrets. And Groot, your permanent buddy.
- Colossus: A hefty melee tank with high defensive capabilities and incredible damage. Can summon both Wolverine (via Fastball Special, natch) and his sister Magik to fight alongside him.
- Human Torch: Do you want everything to be on fire? All the time? Of course you do. He's fast, he's AoE-based, and he's flashy as hell.
- Black Panther: High single-target melee damage and lots of stealth gameplay.
- Captain America: Oh, I just love America. Don't you? :patriot: Strong defenses, solid melee attacks, and some super fun shield-throwing powers.
- Luke Cage: A tanky melee bruiser with a cadre of Heroes For Hire fighting alongside you. Also, throwing cars at an enemy over and over until they die.
- Punisher: Toting tons of guns, Punisher is a ranged combat specialist, but he's not quite as durable as some other heroes. One of his Uniques lets him shoot a nuclear bomb at his enemies.


Even if you don't like the choice you've started with, the Normal Mode story is fairly short and you'll be able to buy an entirely new Hero by the end of it. (either pick a 200 splinter hero you really like, Taskmaster, or a random hero box. don't sit on it for later.)


Ok, I finished the Story Mode. Now What?


Here's a rundown of major game content:

Story Mode: There are two additional difficulty levels of story mode to be completed at your leisure. Identical to the first run through but with bigger numbers. You'll want to do them eventually for the rewards (Power Points, Permanent HP/SP bonuses, some items).

Terminals: Each dungeon in the game can be found, scaled to your level, as an on-demand Terminal for your farmming pleasure. Most useful for farming boss-specific drops. Can be completed solo or in groups. There are also these new things called 'One-Shots' that are stand-alone story chapters built to be more challenging than the normal story mode.

Group Challenges: X-Defense is a 5 player wave-based mode where you defend the Xavier Institute from supervillains, and you lose if all students are captured. SHIELD Holo-Sim is a 2 player 'endurance mode' where you tackle a variety of situations dreamt up by Nick Fury and co, and lose if you run out of lives.

Raids: At the level cap, groups of 10 players can tackle the realm of Surtur and his fire giants. Big difficulty, big rewards, and a higher level of coordination necessary than most other content in the game. Don't be intimidated though, if you can follow instructions you can complete a raid.

Legendary Quests: Starting at level 20, you'll start getting assigned Legendary Quests. These vary from defeating certain enemies to completing specific dungeons- it can take you anywhere in the game. They reward massive amounts of Experience and Credits, but the real prize is the Marks of Odin, redeemable for Legendary gear and artifact Blessings.

Fire VS Ice PvP: Sill in a bit of a beta state. Inspired by mobas like DotA or League of Legends, this mode has two teams of five players each escort frost giants or fire giants towards the enemy base, destroying defensive towers, and ultimately the enemy base itself. PvP has your powers behave very differently from PvE and is currently not a very popular mode.

The Omega System: Every bit of XP you earn on any character feeds into the 'Omega System', an alternate progression that lets you spend points on improving your heroes permanently in a variety of ways. Some of this stuff is really strong, some of it is kind of terrible, feel free to ask what you should be looking at on any particular character. It really varies.

You can also Prestige your character if you want to level them from 1 to 60 again. This only gives you cosmetic benefits, nothing that affects gameplay.





Ok, this all sounds good, but F2P with micro-transactions sounds like a cash sink.


The game's free. ZERO content is paywalled. ZERO mechanics or gameplay items are paywalled.


Here's what spending money will get you:

Costumes: Cosmetic only. Also, while extremely rare, almost all costumes are available as drops in-game.

Heroes: All heroes are also available with in-game currency (Eternity Splinters) which drop at a solid rate. Playing rather frequently, you'd expect to get a new Hero with Splinters every week or two.

Team-Ups: All Team-Ups are also available with in-game currency, just like heroes, and can be earned at roughly the same rate as a new hero.

Cybernetic Pets: Pets were originally purely cosmetic things, but now you can feed them loot to unlock different tiers of stat and power bonuses on them. While you can buy them for cash, they also have a rare chance to drop in the world and are frequently unlockable via special events.

S.T.A.S.H. Space: While your inventory isn't terribly small, the base amount of 'bank' space is pretty limited. This is, unsurprisingly, where the developers make a lot of their money. They have to get a profit somewhere.

Temporary XP/Credit/Item Find boosts: These also show up as drops in-game(via Fortune Cards) and are frequently given out for free.


Here's what spending money will not get you:

Gear: Every piece of gear you want for every slot and every one of the enchantments/runes/etc. for them are drop only. (pets are the exception) Get to killing.

Combat buffs: Some small, short-term buffs are available randomly via Fortune Cards, but nothing permanent and nothing worth paying money for.

Content: No story chapters, terminals, or group challenges are paywalled. It's all free.



FAQ



Q: Who's in the game? Who can I play as? What Team-Ups can I unlock?

A: Check the second post for an up to date roster of playables and what Enhanced costumes they have available! As well as all currently available Team-Ups.


Q: So I didn't read the rest of the OP, is the game good yet?

A: Yes, the game is great right now. Developers are adding new stuff all the time and fixing things that are broken. Though stuff can frequently be buggy, it's usually fixed pretty quickly. Try it again!


Q: There's a lot of types of loot in this game, how do I know what's good and what isn't?

A: You can find out more about the game's loot over here, thanks to SA user Cease To Hope.


Q: There's so many classes, won't it be hard to get gear for the one I'm playing?

A: Loot drops are weighted to your currently played character. You'll find loot for other heroes, but 90% of what you find is going to be for who you're playing as. This goes for special items, too! Sometimes you'll find something very rare for another character, like a Unique or a Costume. That's... just bad luck, unfortunately. But maybe you'll end up interested in getting the character that item belongs to. Maybe they're someone really good! You never know.


Q: How often does this game update?

A: Frequently. It's rare to go more than a week without at least some sort of minor patch, and we're seeing new heroes get added to the game at a rate of about one a month. The developers have told us to expect this pace to stay constant throughout the life of the game, which is kind of exciting.


Q: What's the conversion rate for cash into Gs?

A: $1 = 100G. Pretty simple. If buying through Steam, you can even use your Steam Wallet funds. And this game has Steam Cards, too, if you like to resell those and use the money to buy stuff. Gift Cards you can purchase with cash and redeem online should be available at your local Gamestop or Target, if you need those.


Q: I want to play as villains! Heroes are lame. Can I be Juggernaut or Mephisto or Lady Stiltman or whoever?

A: We've got Loki and Taskmaster already, and upcoming releases include Magneto, Juggernaut, Venom, Doctor Doom, and plenty more. However, they're sticking to hero-centric content, so don't expect to be robbing banks or murdering civilians.


Q: It's annoying to run around so much, especially since my inventory is so small! How can I sell things and get back to where I left off faster?

A: Your B key is for 'Bodyslide', or basically the town portal button. It's a two-way thing, not only taking you back to the level-appropriate hub area, but also letting you teleport back to exactly where you left off, if used a second time. You can do this from anywhere, in the middle of Midtown or dungeons or terminals or even the Classified Bovine Sector. Sell your loot and sell it often. This does have a cooldown on it, but it's a short enough one that you shouldn't be too worried about conserving it or anything like that.


Q: Is there any sort of Auction House, secure trading, or player economy functionality in the game?

A: Trading is in at long last, and there's a thriving trade economy in the game and on it's official boards. There is not, and never will be an auction house. Especially not a real money one. Don't be silly.


Q: My characters don't talk enough! I want to annoy everyone all the time with wacky Deadpool quotes, on-demand. How can I be more obnoxious?

A: The numpad! There's character voice commands bound to it, and everyone has unique dialogue. A lot of it, actually. There's a handy chart I stole from the official forums that tells you what button makes them say what kind of lines:



And Enhanced costumes have their own full sets of lines for this, too! Try it out. Constantly. Everywhere.




What's coming to the game next?

Well, lots of things. As I mentioned in the opening, there's plans for this game to get new content on basically a monthly basis for something like 5 years, minimum. There are over two year's worth of additional heroes currently in development, a series of new story chapters and one-shots being released on a regular basis, and a bunch of stuff we don't even know about yet. New gear and loot types, new challenge modes, new mechanics, new costumes, new artifacts and uniques. So much stuff.


But what playable characters do we know are coming?

We don't have a full list, but these characters have been confirmed as in the works:

- Nova (September?)
- Magneto (October)
- Juggernaut (November)
- Venom (December)
- X-23 (2014)
- Iceman (2015)
- Kitty Pryde and Lockheed (2015)
- War Machine (2015)
- Black Cat (2015)
- Blade (October? 2015)
- Doctor Doom (2015)
- Iron Fist (2015)
- She-Hulk (2015)
- Vision (2015)
- Winter Soldier (2015)
- Nick Fury
- Havok
- Jubilee
- Angel
- Beast
- Tons and tons more


And the developers are listening very closely to what we, as players, want to see. So if there's someone you'd love to see added to the game, make a lot of noise and get a lot of support and it might happen. This got us Moon Knight, among other heroes, and it can happen to your weird obscure favorite hero too.



How do I play with other goons?



In-game, our supergroup is named Groot Force.

To get in the group, either contact us in the Mumble channel(text is fine, you don't need a mic!), or send a message in-game to one of our officers.


Groot Force Officers include:

- KelpPlankton
- NotALizardman
- Eckertmania
- Davebo
- Aarontagg
- AfraidofAudio
- Ajjax
- Ansob
- clgibcount
- DifferoBiga
- Frukthero
- Gboon
- Gwalidir
- ICR
- Jubelio
- khrits
- Mazreal
- MikeSA
- moderndayknight
- nickhimself
- NotoriousBIZ
- Phyresis
- Preliquary
- PyronicEX
- renojin
- Ryllynyth
- And probably more?

If you have a friend in the guild, ask them to ask someone to invite you in SG chat and you'll usually get in quick. Alternately you can pop into the Mumble server mentioned below, there's usually someone online with invite powers.

We can't invite you unless you're online and we're online, so try to catch one of those folks in-game. Don't ask for an invite in the thread. We can't help you unless you help yourself.

There's a Steam group if you're into that kind of thing. We use it to announce a lot of stuff like hero preorders/releases, major patches, server downtime/uptime stuff, and lots of cool Groot Force specific player-run events. Join it and be cool.

Additionally, Groot Force uses the Camping The Stairs Mumble Server, and details on joining us are here:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3521554

The Mumble channel is typically pretty active during the evenings (US time) and all day on the weekends. We've got a few European, Australian, and other international-type players too, who are on at their own appropriate prime times. There's almost always someone there, and we're all very helpful, whether you want to know how to build a character or whether Juggernaut canonically boinked She-Hulk. We highly recommend you join!


There's also an IRC channel, #marvelheroes on synIRC. I don't personally use it but it could be pretty good too!


In summary,


Sea Lily fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Oct 4, 2014

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Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

The Current Roster



Costumes vary wildly in pricing, and there's so many at this point that keeping the OP updated with what's available for who would just be completely maddening. So I ain't gonna do it.

Black Panther (900G or 400 Splinters): Melee hero, both energy and physical damage. Uses his claws, daggers, and traps. Has a stealth power.

Black Widow (450G or 200 Splinters): Melee and Ranged options, a mixture of energy and physical damage. Cool spy gadgets, stealth tech, and calls in a SHIELD squad for her Ultimate.

Cable (900G or 400 Splinters) : Fully ranged. Energy damage for weapons, mental damage for psionic stuff. Focus on psionics right now, guns need some buffs, might want to wait for a rework.

Captain America (1200G or 400 Splinters) : Melee with some ranged, all physical damage. Good team support hero, but very strong in his own right. Summons The Avengers for his Ultimate.

Colossus (900G or 400 Splinters): Melee hero with physical damage. Very sturdy, has some summons but people don't use them, hits really hard. Has the yell from the X-Men arcade game, it's great.

Cyclops (900G or 400 Splinters): Ranged hero that has melee attacks for some reason? Lasers are Energy damage, punches are Physical. Please don't be a Punchclops. Not the worst but needs a rework to be really good.

Daredevil (450G or 200 Splinters): Melee hero, physical damage. Has a 'Combo System' mechanic which works pretty well. Kind of bland, but a good hero.

Deadpool (1350G or 600 Splinters): Melee/Ranged hybrid hero, deals physical damage. Right now his Melee is good and his Ranged is bad, stick to the melee and his AoEs. Needs a rework.

Doctor Strange (1350G or 600 Splinters): Ranged hero, Mental damage. Super flashy, some of the coolest looking powers in the game, and very strong.

Emma Frost (900G or 400 Splinters): Ranged/Melee hybrid hero. Ranged attacks are Mental, Melee attacks are Physical. Shifts in and out of Diamond Form depending on what attacks you use. Can 'Enslave' a single enemy at a time to fight alongside her, then detonate them whenever she's done with them.

Gambit (900G or 400 Splinters): Ranged/Melee hybrid hero. Bo staff is physical, kinetic cards are energy. Most people go full ranged on Gambit.

Ghost Rider (1350G or 600 Splinters): Ranged/Melee hybrid hero. Hellfire is Mental damage, Chains are Physical. Ghost Rider is not good right now, wait for a rework.

Hawkeye (450G or 200 Splinters): Ranged hero. Physical damage. Good mix of single-target and AoE attacks, deals strong damage, a little flimsy. Seriously, he's good.

Hulk (900G or 400 Splinters): Melee hero. Physical damage. HULK SMASH! Ultimate is his meteor super from the Marvel VS Capcom series.

Human Torch (900G or 400 Splinters): Ranged hero. Energy damage. Lights everything on fire, lots of DoTs and AoE. Very strong damage.

Invisible Woman (900G or 400 Splinters): Ranged hero. Energy damage. Tons of AoEs, lots of defensive team support, and a passive that suffocates your foes. Oh and invisibility.

Iron Man (1350G or 600 Splinters): Ranged hero. Energy damage for most attacks, some Physical on missiles. Actually has a potential Melee build too. Good at basically everything, great character.

Jean Grey (900G or 400 Splinters): Ranged hero. Mental damage as Jean, Energy damage as Phoenix. AoE heavy. Form-based hero. Needs a rework to not be boring, but is playable right now.

Loki (900G or 400 Splinters): Ranged hero. Mental damage. Can summon illusionary Loki pets, tons of AoE, and has a teleport that makes him invisible at lv1. Versatile and strong.

Luke Cage (900G or 400 Splinters): Melee hero. Physical damage. Has some useful summons, but most people favor Iron Fist because he heals you. Throws an infinite number of cars.

Moon Knight (900G or 400 Splinters): Melee/Ranged hybrid hero. Physical damage. Very strong character, has what's currently the most powerful move in the game (Gruesome Frenzy).

Mr. Fantastic (900G or 400 Splinters): Melee hero that pretends he's ranged because he punches really far. Physical damage. Tons of very strong AoE, lots of survivability, and great animations.

Ms. Marvel (900G or 400 Splinters): Ranged/Melee hybrid hero. Punches are physical damage, beams are energy damage. Very strong, hard to kill, and can be built for melee or ranged if you prefer one over the other. Ranged build recommended.

Nightcrawler (900G or 400 Splinters): Melee hero. Physical damage. Lots of AoEs, tons of teleporting, very quick hero. Little frail, but you have lots of tools to evade damage, including a stealth that heals you.

Psylocke (900G or 400 Splinters): Melee/Ranged hybrid hero. Mostly mental damage, but does some physical ninja stuff. Melee build is recommended over physical, but do what you want.

Punisher (900G or 400 Splinters) Ranged hero (surprise?). Physical damage. Lots of AoEs and chances to Fear enemies on kill. Needs a rework.

Rocket Raccoon (900G or 400 Splinters): Ranged hero. Energy damage. Summons Groot to fight alongside him, who is very strong. Can specialize in either space guns or turret pets.

Rogue (1350G or 600 Splinters): Whatever you want. Ranged, melee, energy, physical, mental. All of it at once if you'd like. Rogue is extremely unique because while she has one tree of 'normal' powers, her other two trees are 'Steal From Friends' and 'Steal from Foes', meaning you get to steal abilities from other players, bosses, and team-ups to build Rogue into whatever you want her to be. She's unique, not just amongst this game's roster, but for the ARPG genre itself.

Scarlet Witch (450G or 200 Splinters) : Ranged hero. Mental damage. Lots of AoEs and DoTs, tons of abilities that weaken or slow enemies.

Silver Surfer (900G or 400 Splinters): Ranged hero. Energy damage. Uses 'Power Cosmic' instead of Spirit, which has much larger values but works the same way. Strong damage all around, AoE or single target, and very durable. Powers look cool too. Highly recommended character.

Spider-Man (1350G or 600 Splinters): Melee/Ranged hybrid hero. Physical damage. Uses his webbing to buff his melee attacks, and has better damage avoidance and dodge than anyone else. Little flimsy, but very strong.

Star-Lord (900G or 400 Splinters): Ranged hero. Energy damage. Has an elemental ammo mechanic that changes what his attacks do on the fly, and a single strong melee attack. Cool ship-related powers too.

Storm (450G or 200 Splinters): Ranged hero. Energy damage. Lots of AoEs and DoTs. More control ability than many heroes.

Squirrel Girl (900G or 400 Splinters): Melee/Ranged hybrid hero. But that's a lie, she's actually pet-based. Physical damage. Dozens of squirrels murder everything for you while giant acorns rain from the sky.

Taskmaster (450G or 200 Splinters): Melee/Ranged hybrid hero. Physical damage. A mixture of powers from Captain America, Hawkeye, Daredevil, and Spider-Man but a few of his own as well. Great character, very cheap, and highly recommended as the first hero you buy with Eternity Splinters.

Thing (450G or 200 Splinters): Melee hero. Physical damage. Insane amounts of HP and defense. Has a power called 'Clobbering Time' that makes him yell "It's Clobbering Time!" and then you clobber enemies for a time.

Thor (900G or 400 Splinters): Melee/Ranged hybrid hero. Hammer is Physical damage, Lightning is Energy. A few hammer attacks also use the lightning and are Energy instead, just to be confusing. Not a terrible character but in heavy need of a rework.

Wolverine (900G or 400 Splinters) : Melee hero. Physical damage. Uses 'Fury' instead of Spirit, which he builds by dealing or taking damage. Insanely high Critical chance and Brutal chance, lots of bleeds, and the ability to bypass the damage speed cap to double your attack rate. Oh, and he never dies, thanks regen.


What happened to Nova?

Nova's been delayed indefinitely, pending some lore decisions that need to be made on Marvel's end of things. Upon his release, he will cost 400 Splinters or 900 Gs.


That's a lot of characters! Who's the best? Who should I play?

When in doubt, play whoever you like from comics/cartoons/movies. You'll enjoy characters more if you already like them. That said, if you want to know who's the most effective right at this very moment, ask the thread. This changes constantly, sometimes without the game even patching, as people discover new gear setups and new builds for characters. With over 20 different classes in the game, 'the best character' is changing all the time.



Team-Ups



We're still pretty low on Team-Up options right now, but they're supposed to be adding them at roughly the same rate as characters, so hopefully we see more soon.

Currently Available:

- Spider-Man
- The Falcon (Captain America: The Winter Soldier version)
- Firestar
- Magik
- Black Suit Spider-Man (Fortune Card exclusive reward)
- Domino
- Gamora
- Drax The Destroyer
- I AM GROOT
- She-Hulk
- Old Man Thor (event reward)

Future confirmed team-ups:

- Doctor Doom (Future Foundation)
- Wasp
- Beta Ray Bill
- Clea
- Havok
- Deadpool 'The Kid' (hes a cowboy)
- Spider-Woman
- Kitty Pryde
- Lockjaw
- Wolverine
- Havok
- Wonder Man
- Iceman
- Bob, Agent of Hydra
- AND ME, THE THING

A character being playable or being a team-up makes it more likely we'll see them added as the other thing, not less, so don't freak out if your favorite character is added as one of these before they're made into someone playable later on.



So this is a loot game right? Tell me about the loot!

At the start of the game, your Hero has 5 Gear slots (Traditionally: Weapon, Armor, Belt, Boots, Head. But they vary by Hero), a Medal slot, and 2 Artifact slots.

Gear: Your Gear 1-5 slots will fill with slot-appropriate Hero-specific items ranging from White->Green->Blue(Rare)->Purple(Epic)->Cosmic(Yellow)->Unique(Brown). For instance, Spiderman gets Web Shooters as his Slot 1 Gear, Cyclops has a visor, Rogue has gloves, Captain America has a shield, etc. Cosmics, while slightly rarer at early levels become relatively common in level 60 content and provide +1 to all Powers in addition to having affixes like Epic Gear. Uniques are untradeable, many can be used by multiple characters, and tend to be stronger than many other items. However, a good Cosmic is better than a bad Unique (and sometimes better than good Uniques).

Rings: Rings unlock at level 25 and serve as an effective 6th Gear slot. Rings are not Hero-Specific and follow the same rarity system as Gear, while being a much more infrequent drop. Cosmic Rings are some of the the rarest and most valuable tradable items in the game.

Insignias: Insignias unlock at level 35 and come in Green/Blue/Purple versions. They are usable only by Heroes that are affiliated with the appropriate teams (which you can see in your character's bio) and provide a fixed group-wide benefit in addition to having stat affixes like Gear. Multiple 'auras' of the same character-effect don't stack. You won't benefit from having two people in your group with Valkyrie auras, so making 'odd' choices can be beneficial sometimes for things like Raids.

Medallions: Dropped from bosses, these come in 3 versions: Medal (below level 24), Medallion (level 24+, +1 to all powers), and Cosmic(any level, additional +1 to all powers).

Artifacts: You start the game with 2 artifact slots and acquire a 3rd and 4th at level 45 and 55 respectively. Artifacts are fixed level gear with an assortment of affixes that can be quite unique. They are usable by any Hero and are tradable. Artifacts can be 'Blessed' for the cost of 100 Odin Marks, gaining additional special affixes that can add a lot of oomph to your character.

Legendary: Your legendary slot is available at level 1, but you'll need to collect 300 Odin Marks to buy one. They are incredibly strong items and frequently have unique procs. They're usable by any Hero and aren't tradable- but you can turn them back into Odin Marks if you're unhappy with them for whatever reason.

Relic: Relic slot unlocks at 20. Relics are items with small individual stat bonuses that stack in your Relic slot up to 1000 Relics. The more you stack, the stronger the bonus.

Uru-Forged: Uru Forged items come in 2 tiers: Level 25 and 50. Each gives a small fixed stat bonus. Their value lies in their ability to be enchanted by powerful runewords. The runewords scale to the tier of the item.

Costume: You control what costume you want to wear and what stats you want it to grant. The crafter will let you add a Core to your costume, as well as a number of affixes to buff it further. This is why you want to level up your crafter.

Cybernetic Pets: Equippable on any hero and don't bind. You feed your pets loot to make them grant stats, either by dragging it onto them or by mashing the loot vacuum key (J by default). The affixes are randomly determined and can be reset for a cost, but you have to fill the meter up all over again once it's reset.

Team-Ups: While not technically gear, Team-Ups are AI-controlled characters that you can unlock via Eternity Splinters or by purchasing them with Gs (real money) in the in-game store. They have their own gear slots, their own gear types, their own skills, and their own inventory space.
Team-Ups can function in three modes: Active, in which they follow you around to help fight crime. Passive, in which you gain passive benefits based on the character but they never actually appear. And Assist, in which characters are only present for 30 seconds but deal double their normal damage. If you want to know more about Team-Ups(including pricing), check out the FAQ that a developer posted on the official forums.


How about this Crafting thing?


You've got 2 basic categories of crafting: Your Enchanter and Crafter.

Your Enchanter crafts Runes, Runewords, and Blessings:
Runes: Adds a rune to one of your Gears in slots 1-5. Gives a small stat buff. Scales to item level. Cannot be removed or moved, only replaced.

Runewords: Powerful combinations of stats that can be added to your Uru-Forged item. Scales to Uru-Forged level. Cannot be removed or moved, only replaced.

Blessings: Provide a significant set of buffs and effects. Attaches to an artifact. Can be moved cheaply to another artifact. Often used as a currnency in player trading as unbound artifacts are tradable.


Your Crafter has a large amount of items and effects available to craft. Some highlights:

Unique Upgrade: Upgrade any unique Gear to level 40, 50, or 60 (scaling up all the stats). Somewhat costly and the level 50 isn't really worth it.

Unique Exchange: Trade in 3, 4, or 5 of the same Unique for something else. You can turn them into other Uniques, into credits, into Relics, all sorts of stuff. The only cost is the Uniques themselves, so it's really nice for avoiding clutter in your stash.

Add Affixes To Costume: Each costume has 4 Affix slots that you can roll on. This is the main credit sink in the game. These affixes scale up to the level of Core added to the costume.

Costume Blender: Destroy 3 Costumes to get a new random costume. Used largely with duplicate costumes received from Prestiging.


WHERE ARE THE BUILDS? I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO MAKE MY CHARACTER BE GOOD

:siren:GO HERE, THE BUILDS ARE OVER HERE:siren:

You can also reach that post with this nice little link: http://tinyurl.com/sa-builds

While Sion tries to keep that post updated as frequently as he can, if a build seems particularly outdated you should ask about it in the thread. There are a LOT of characters in this game, many who have multiple possible builds, and people only tend to make build posts when other players ask about the characters... so sometimes stuff is a little outdated.


USEFUL LINKS!

Feel free to suggest more useful links for me.

Cease To Hope's Loot Megapost, go there if you have questions about anything loot-related. He tries to keep it up to date.

How to add more hotkeys than are available on your hotbar. Useful for a number of heroes.





all hail weed galactus

Sea Lily fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Sep 24, 2014

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

I was wondering how they'd make Silver Surfer feel powerful in a game where Daredevil and Punisher have to be able to keep up with him. Ripping apart the fabric of space and time is a good way to do that. As is giving him a secondary resource that seems to be Power Cosmic? That looks so cool.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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seravid posted:

Until this guy arrives, who's the coolest character right now, skill-wise? Doc Strange?

Doctor Strange for sure, if you're just going purely visuals. Tons of fancy spells that do a bunch of different things. After him is probably Ghost Rider in terms of having tons of stuff that looks cool everywhere, plus he has a motorcycle to ride and/or throw at enemies.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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a cock shaped fruit posted:

That stream with Brevik talking to Adam Sandler, did it actually reveal *anything*?

I think someone confused a 'surprise' at the end with a 'reveal' at the end, and the surprise was a free Rocket Raccoon bundle code.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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RosaParksOfDip posted:

Hulkbusters are grea, Reserve quiver if you're a fool and want to try Wave of Arrows(Don't do this. Use Goliath Serum instead in the same slot. Massive survivability). His slot 1 is pretty alright. I'm personally not a huge fan of his slot 4 or 5 (ronin boots and sunglasses that summon kate), but the boots aren't the worst if you have no solid slot 4 any heroes. I think a well-rolled cosmic beats the sunglasses easily.

The real problem with the Hawkguy Shades is that the summon will block your arrows from hitting enemies. So yeah put a cosmic in that slot, or a good slot 5 any-hero unique.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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fookolt posted:

Recommendations for a team-up for Human Torch?

Firestar is good, her passives will scale off of your Energy Damage and Torch can benefit from the spirit discount that she provides.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Duranki posted:

Those Surfer pics are cosmic porn. Keep em' coming! Were these grabbed elsewhere, or has he hit the test server?

They're being posted by a dev, he's not on test yet.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Aphrodite posted:

He already has HVB as a weapon.

Nah, they're giving him Air Hyper Viper Beam as a Signature power.

He has a Unique already but they're making a proper ability for it.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Ramulack posted:

Ive always loved how goons can take a really simple game and blow it up with :math: and stuff.

Now we just need a dramatic episode which tears Groot Force apart and splinters the goon player base into sub groups.

That already happened at launch, I think. There used to be like three or four goon guilds, but all of them died except Groot Force (which was just the Mumble guild) so everyone consolidated into that one.

I guess it could happen again, though. I think I'd probably join I AM THE MOON's guild because it has the best names. Groot Force is basically terrible in every way and I hate you all tbh.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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RatHat posted:

So if you do all 3 difficulties of the story and then Prestige do you just start with 12 power points?

Not immediately, but I think they're all granted to you at level 5 or 10 or something like that. Early on.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Neurolimal posted:

Access to rainbow colored iron buddies, a spare Default costume you can blender with 2 other costumes in a level 20 crafter for a random costume (includes every possible costume except for the latest released hero's)

The costume recipe has no bias against recently released heroes or costumes, the only stuff you can't get from it is from Fortune Cards or things like the Ultimate Bundle from launch. Exclusive stuff. Chase costumes also have an incredibly rare chance to be a result so they're pretty unlikely, but they're in there.

You can get any normal or Enhanced costume as soon as it's added to the game, and in some cases before it's even available in the store for purchase. (this happened for Lady Deadpool and Beta Ray Bill)

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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soscannonballs posted:

How large can I make my Hulk? I already have ACCoC and Pym growth serum with a normal CCoC on my costume. I see 2 Omega passives as well so is there anything I am missing?

You can only stack three size increases so you're already at the limit.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Fenris13 posted:

Is there a Doom costume thread, or should post a mock thread just to spite him?

If anyone's even close to being hinted at by devs there's already a costume thread for it. Comixfan is super paranoid after the Taskmaster thing.

And don't post mock threads, the last time people did a bunch of coordinated poo poo on the forums to harass a guy they all got banned for like a week. Some permamently.

If you're going to do dumb things to annoy people on the official forums, just do it on your own and don't talk about it here or in-game.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

Don't forget that the real answer to the unannounced hero on the splash page was Rogue because Ryolnir forgot she had been announced already.

There isn't anything else, you're all crazy people and you've fallen into Doomsaw's manipulative clutches.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Lemon Curdistan posted:

Here are my guesses for alt costumes:

Rogue's alt will likely be her yellow and green/leather jacket/bouffant hair 90s costume.

Magneto's will be one of his white costumes (either the dumb sleeveless one, or the sensible one with sleeves). It might be Fassbender Magneto from DoFP, though.

Star-Lord will be movie Star-Lord.

Juggernaut has had very few alt costumes anyway, so I'm guessing we're going to get Ultimates Juggernaut. The other options are Kuurth (which would be a bit weird unless they don't do the voice filter thing) or X3 Juggernaut (and since X3 has been retconned, that is probably not very likely).

I have no loving clue what Venom is going to be, since this is Venom and not Agent Venom. Pretty sure the only option is Anti-Venom.

Venom will likely be Mac Gargan Venom (different eyes, different spider pattern), it's the most well-known alternate look for the character that wouldn't necessitate an Enhanced costume.



Anti-Venom's powers vary from normal Venom's in a few weird ways, plus all his Symbiote stuff would need to be white instead of black, so that's probably an Enhanced Costume thing. Anti-Venom hates symbiotes and wouldn't really run around calling himself Venom. They could ignore that and just use it as an outfit anyway though, didn't stop them with Scarlet Spider.

And I think there's like a 90% chance that Juggernaut's alt is going to be the costume he wore while he was on the X-Men.

Sea Lily fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Jun 20, 2014

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Toshimo posted:

Maybe he can borrow a pair from Hulk, who somehow successfully wears them in 2 slots at the same time.

Hulk puts on his pants just like anyone else, one slot at a time.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Comrade Flynn posted:

poo poo I talked to ~*~Stan Lee~*~ on the character I'm not sticking with. Can I send this stuff to another char on my account?

Your inventory is account-level, not character-level.

Just open the boxes on whoever you want items for.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Ahundredbux posted:

Please Gazillion, playable Brick.









Brick might be too OP to add to the game as a playable hero.

Good option for a team-up.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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fozzy fosbourne posted:

What the hell? Marvel will let them use Squirrel Girl and Taskmaster but not Namor? I wonder if this is more weird Fox owning Fantastic Four film rights fallout, although it seems they are allowed to use Doom and FF so I don't know what the gently caress. An Atlantis one off seems like a no brainer.

Marvel dashing my dreams of playing a guy in a speedo insulting everyone

Universal owns the movie and video game rights to Namor indefinitely I think. Marvel signed a bad contract when they were almost bankrupt, and Universal's done nothing with the character since.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Lemon Curdistan posted:

Please don't be a lovely racist or cheer lovely racists on. Thanks.

Yeah, what the gently caress, that's not okay.

I know people keep joking about "woah ho ho kelp's gonna get banned for this" or whatever, but seriously don't be assholes for no reason. And especially don't be racist. I don't know why the atmosphere in this thread has become so negative in past months considering how the game keeps improving more and more, but at the very least you guys could keep your horrible poo poo to SomethingAwful and not poo poo up the official boards more than they already have been by the general public.

Anyway, this event is super crazy, but I was wondering if anyone had found a Hero Token drop yet and could let us know what color it is? They were purple back in the day, but I don't know if they might change that. They should probably be something more noticeable like yellow or the Unique color, but then again costumes are still purple too anyway so whatever.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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PoultryHammock posted:

I'm not a lovely racist, but am a consummate poo poo poster, I apologize for sullying the good name of goons in online games.


Midnightghoul posted:

We are kind and gentle goons not like the goons of '99-13

I'm sorry that asking people to not be lovely is such an emotionally taxing, unreasonable request for you guys to handle. I'll try to be more accomodating for your disabilities in the future.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Jedit posted:

No, you're going to have to drop the shekels and have Kelp's name changed to BonerPlankton.

E: Brevik - "Why not Boner Yankton? Boner Yank-a-Ton." Tell us, Kelp, what is it like to have an AAA game designer accuse you of being a chronic masturbator?

I can stop yanking boners whenever I want. I don't have a problem. YOU DON'T KNOW ME.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Even gods.

BrianWilly posted:

I've been selling all my Snakeroot relics because movement speed seemed like the most useless stat addition. Am I, in fact, a fool? Does it really benefit certain characters in some way?

Moving faster means killing faster means getting loot faster. And avoiding things faster. Movespeed is always useful.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

Leper Residue posted:

A stack of 56 moves my Black Panthers speed from 439 to 446 (something like that, it was a whole 7 points). Move speed has incredibly lovely scaling. You might as well just dash.

Yeah, movespeed stacks poorly. But there are a number of slow characters that don't have another good source for it outside of team insignias or rings and it's not too shabby on them.

The relic itself isn't great on everyone. But movespeed is always useful to have.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

Unique Pet.

Howard the Duck will be the special pet, I'm pretty sure.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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RatHat posted:

Is Kelp's Spider-man build in the OP still good?

Kind of outdated but still mostly good. I would recommend swapping out Web Wrecking Ball for Leaping Assault, it's tagged both melee and ranged, as well as area, so it works out better overall for a number of reasons.

Otherwise it's still right on. You have more points now so you can do a little more with some other stuff that you didn't have the budget for before.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
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jjac posted:

Does crit/brutal rating transfer to pets too? I'm thinking on loading up on that for any slots I can't cram more +summon damage into.

Pets inherit any pet-specific affixes, Crit Rating, Brutal Rating, and nothing else. (Stacking Crit and Brutal is a good idea in pet builds but Crit Damage and Brutal Damage do nothing for you.)

So yep, if you're going for a pet build that's the way to go. +Intelligence also directly adds 4% pet damage per point so it's a good bet as well.

Sea Lily fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Jul 4, 2014

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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RatHat posted:

This look good for a Spider-man build? I could probably put the points from Superior Agility into Web Shield but whatever, I like move speed.

Yeah that looks solid. I'd consider moving the points from Constrictive Webbing to Web Shield if you want to move points around, but you don't really need to change much there.

I personally don't use Web Shield (I probably should but my survivability seems okay) and have those points in Web Spray instead to make it have a little extra oomph.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

Vanilla Mint Ice posted:

Don't call it sub, call it a potion that lasts 30 real days and gives rif/sif/credit/exp bonus.

They tried to add week-long and 30 day potions to the game and the playerbase threw a fit about it being pay-2-win for some reason, even though these already exist as 2 hour potions you can stack infinitely and the week-long and 30 day ones would just be that but way more reasonably priced, so they took it out after testing them for a few days on the test server and it never made it to live.

So I think it wouldn't go over well.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

Jowy posted:

Goons, help me maximize my squirrel potential.

I picked up Squirrel Girl from one of the random hero box giveaways, tossed a Trident on her, but I want to know what are considered the big dick pet damage items for when I hit 60. I'm sitting on a Legacy of Kraven and Trask Helm (note: I have no idea if her actual uniques in those slots have pet damage or are otherwise better for pet build because I'm too lazy to check right now), and have the usual pet damage artis already lying around as well as a cosmic Mr. Sinister medallion, but are there other particular things to look out for?

Sinister's Curiass (rare mr. sinister drop) for slot 2, you've already got the Kraven for 3, you'll want her Iron Man VS Cards for 5 (better than Trask in every way). Tippy Toe's bow is the best for 4 since it gives you an additional incredibly strong squirrel and 6 ranks for her Moar Squirrels tree. Man-Ape drops a slot 1 pet damage spear but it's incredibly rare.

Then in terms of artifacts: Raptor Stone, Latverian Regalia, Advanced Latverian Regalia, then something with crit/brutal. Enchant with Frigga blessings. Get a defensive Uru and enchant it with Beast Master. Use a Mr. Sinister Medallion.

Then fill everything else out with crit chance and brutal chance.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
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Jowy posted:

This is perfect, thanks! Good to hear the Kraven is actually what I need, I've been sitting on it for months waiting to use it. :v:

Note that the Kraven needs to be at least a 20% pet damage roll to be better than a +6 Moar Squirrels roll on a Squirrel Systems Utility Belt. They're both good, but Kraven just barely edges it out in terms of overall damage as long as you're at 20% or higher.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Prel posted:

This is not correct post-anniversary.

Squirrel Friends obeys the +10% damage/level rule that all powers use. SSUB can give you up to +4 in Moar Squirrels, which is equivalent to 40% pet damage. Kraven can give you 25% pet damage and +1 to all powers, which is equivalent to 35% pet damage. So on pure pet damage alone, a +4 SSUB beats a perfect Kraven. SSUB then also boosts all the other powers in Moar Squirrels for additional damage on top of the boost to Squirrel Friends, and can roll another +4 to the Squirrels! tree, which is usually heavily invested in. A good SSUB should now be significantly better than a good Legacy of Kraven.

Kraven was a lot better before they doubled the effectiveness of +skill.

Thanks, I didn't even think about this. I keep forgetting they changed that stuff.

Listen to this guy. Use a Squirrel Systems Utility Belt. Though it's okay to use Legacy of Kraven if you don't have one.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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WarLocke posted:

What is the story with shethor anyway?

It's from Earth X. Loki convinces Odin that Thor needs to learn further humility or something so he gets turned into a lady. Which basically changes nothing and Thor still kicks everyone's rear end the same as always.

I don't know why she tore off the sides of her costume though.

Midnightghoul posted:

where are the male versions of female characters

do males not matter to gazillion?

mar-vell is coming for ms marvel like later this month geez

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Soothing Vapors posted:

Also Wiccan

I would give anything for a He-Emma

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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RatHat posted:

These characters already exist, ingame even. Spider-woman, Valkyrie, She-hulk, Rescue(Pepper Potts, though she doesn't actually fight), Stature maybe?, X-23. I don't know of any female version of Captain America but I don't read comics that much so.

Cap's daughter, from the MC2 future stuff.



They said we'll be getting her and Spider-Girl (Mayday Parker) as enhanced costumes somewhere down the line.

Spider-Woman actually has nothing to do with Spider-Man and doesn't share his powers, she'll be a separate playable hero in probably 2015 or 2016 I'm sure. Important Avengers member. She-Hulk similarly wouldn't work as an Enhanced costume for Hulk and will be a separate playable hero someday too.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Elucidarius posted:

Is Wiccan actually confirmed? I can't stand playing Scarlet Witch but if they did a Wiccan costume I would play the gently caress out of him.

Wiccan got Marvel approval both as an Enhanced costume for alongside a Scarlet Witch rework, and as a full hero of his own sometime in the future. They're always sure to mention the second thing because otherwise a bunch of people lose their poo poo because A Character Who Is One Thing Can Never Be Another Thing!!!! which has never been true.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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kaujot posted:

How often does Gaz have sales like the BOGO they had recently? Or even just x% bonus G?

BOGO is around reasonably often, once every two or three months. Bonus Gs or discounted Gs are much more rare, there's no predictability to that other than probably happening for black friday stuff.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PgF_7J_RfI

I am ready for this rework.

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Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

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Midnightghoul posted:

Where does he find the tank from though?

The same place Luke Cage gets his cars from.

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