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Asiina posted:Why then Piper has this ability I have no idea. The accountant just noticed some vagueness in what was being paid for. Piper (and presumably Caputo, once he knew what he was looking at) would know that an invoice for $2.5M for a new gym or $100K for new plumbing or electrical wiring was fraudulent because the work obviously hadn't been done.
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Rosa is fantastic, so glad she went the direction she did. Also glad that Red is back on top, at least in prison, to make up for her shop closing--that part was really sad  .You could tell they were having fun with backstories this time around. Piper is clearly deadweight though, Larry is The Worst, and man... Daya is a dope and I wouldn't mind if she fell off a cliff.
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Jun 8, 2014 23:43
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I stopped watching the first episode about ten minutes in. I would honestly LOVE if they continued the show after Piper gets released. I was like 'an ALL Piper and Alex episode? Nope!' But my basic thoughts on season two: Rosa and the Golden Girls gang were awesome. Taslitz and Freida were fun, and I kind of like the fact that they look down on the younger inmates because their crimes were far more hardcore than, like, holding drugs for their boyfriends. And I liked Rosa's interactions with that kid during chemo. Then again, I've kind of always been a sucker for 'character battles cancer' storylines. And I thought that (finale) Rosa being the one to actually take out Vee was surprising, since they'd had very little interaction face-to-face, except when they kicked her out of her seat in the caf, and Rosa kept calling her rude when the topic came up. The Soso character was annoying as poo poo, which, I suppose was kind of the point. I liked Poussey's arc in general, even if it did get a little repetitive toward the end, and the whole (finale)'Poussey, was right all along! We WERE wrong to trust Vee!' turnaroundwas kind of hokey. Bennett and Daya's story still draaaaags, Red still owns bones, and I like that some of the minor characters like the guards and Maria get some fun moments. Janae continues to really do nothing, I liked her hanging around with Yoga Jones from S1, and wish there was more of that this season. I will probably never stop laughing at O'Neill shouting 'RUN NUNS, RUN!!!!!'
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Jun 9, 2014 01:03
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Pick posted:Rosa is fantastic, so glad she went the direction she did. Also glad that Red is back on top, at least in prison, to make up for her shop closing--that part was really sad
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Jun 9, 2014 01:06
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LadyPictureShow posted:I will probably never stop laughing at O'Neill shouting 'RUN NUNS, RUN!!!!!' Everything about O'Neill and the nuns was amazing.
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Jun 9, 2014 01:24
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He needs to make a banjolele album.
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Asiina posted:Everything about O'Neill and the nuns was amazing. "I fell in with the bad nuns." 
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Jun 9, 2014 01:54
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I am glad that everyone can acknowledge that Taystee is the best character.
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Just started episode 10, and goddamn, Vee is a gigantic irredeemable bitch. Who the gently caress screws with someone in the final stages of terminal cancer? If she doesn't get what's coming to her by the season finale, I dunno if I'll end up watching season 3. Some other quick thoughts: - Larry's still a douche. At least Piper is usually funny when she's being terrible. Larry's a douche AND boring. - Vee somehow managed to ruin Taystee's character, too. I feel like the black characters sort of got shafted this season so far. They're getting more screentime, but holy poo poo, just an avalanche of unlikeable characterization. "Black Cindy" loving sucks. Where'd Janae go? Poussey's been great, though. - Bennett's gone off the rails, holy poo poo. At least something interesting is happening with him and Daya. - Morello's a complete lunatic and it's awesome. - This season needs more Sister Ingalls. And Yoga Jones. - I hope the Hispanic inmates get a little more characterization soon. Seem to fall a little flat as things stand. - Soso's hilarious. - I thought the writers were trying to make Caputo into a better guy earlier this season, but that's not really happening anymore. Guess they're deadset on all of the guards and administrators being generally lovely mixed bags. Probably true to life.
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Jun 9, 2014 02:33
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O'Neill might be my favorite guard, I wish he got all of Bennett's screen time.
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Lycus posted:O'Neill might be my favorite guard, I wish he got all of Bennett's screen time. I want to, like, start a petition for a spin-off called 'O'Neill is the new black'. And Lushchek (sp?) got pretty funny this season too. I remember him being kind of a witless d-bag in season 1, but he had a few good zingers this season. E: maybe somebody can help me out here on what's going on with Healy. His motivations just don't seem to make much sense to me. Half the time, he seems like a guy that WANTS to do good, and make a difference, and have people like him, but then it's like it flips a switch into 'gives no fucks' mode. Though I might have missed some nuances due to binge-watching the Hell out of this season. And I'm re-watching the finale, and it's kind of overly hit me, and feels really hosed up when the guard with Rosa tells Morello that Rosa has only a couple weeks left, then turns on the radio and starts singing along to Breakfast At Tiffany's, since it doesn't affect him. My mom died from the same kind of cancer Rosa has, and I had that sort of experience when telling people she was in hospice. 'Oh that's too bad' (shrug and resume normal routine) . But like I said, I'm a sucker.
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Jun 9, 2014 02:56
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surf rock posted:Just started episode 10, and goddamn, Vee is a gigantic irredeemable bitch. Who the gently caress screws with someone in the final stages of terminal cancer? If she doesn't get what's coming to her by the season finale, I dunno if I'll end up watching season 3.
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LadyPictureShow posted:E: maybe somebody can help me out here on what's going on with Healy. His motivations just don't seem to make much sense to me. Half the time, he seems like a guy that WANTS to do good, and make a difference, and have people like him, but then it's like it flips a switch into 'gives no fucks' mode. Though I might have missed some nuances due to binge-watching the Hell out of this season. My impression is that he leans towards doing the right thing, but is incredibly immature and takes everything personally. If he feels offended by something, he'll immediately go into a reactionary aggression until he realizes what an rear end in a top hat he's being. When he's been an rear end in a top hat, he generally redeems himself later, except when it comes to his weird thing against lesbians.
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surf rock posted:- I thought the writers were trying to make Caputo into a better guy earlier this season, but that's not really happening anymore. Guess they're deadset on all of the guards and administrators being generally lovely mixed bags. Probably true to life. This wouldn't be the female (lite)equivalent of Oz if they weren't. It was pretty much a running theme in that show that even the staff members who wanted the prison to be better would once in while let their mood swings get the better of them. The inmates being so susceptible to the whims of the staff is always portrayed as a ticking time bomb in these stories.
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LadyPictureShow posted:I want to, like, start a petition for a spin-off called 'O'Neill is the new black'. Healy.. wants to be wanted, I think. What he wants is people to look up to him as their protector and rescuer, when he can't protect or rescue poo poo, but his entire self-esteem is dependent on other people being dependent on him. As for the Rosa and the Guard thing... I don't know if it was meant to paint the guard as a total rear end in a top hat, or if it was meant more as.. it's horrible news that's basically impossible to process, especially not in casual social situations, so people's tendency is to kind of.. avoid it with some sort of distraction or return to their routine, in order to avoid having to actually deal with it 
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Jun 9, 2014 03:11
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surf rock posted:- Vee somehow managed to ruin Taystee's character, too. I feel like the black characters sort of got shafted this season so far. They're getting more screentime, but holy poo poo, just an avalanche of unlikeable characterization. "Black Cindy" loving sucks. Where'd Janae go? Poussey's been great, though. She got put in SHU for contraband when they found the tampon cigs. Towards the end of the season when they were making their hunger strike demands re:SHU I remember Caputo kind of laughing it off and being like lol you serious that girls in SHU every other month she's coming out soon anyway so no big, but I think we've already gotten the whole feel good Janae getting out of SHU moment in S1 so it's not shocking that they wouldn't revisit and just have her rejoin general pop whenever it's relevant again. Agreeing that Black Cindy is awful, I also felt like Suzanne felt like a big caricature of herself in S1. She was much more real and subtle last season she just felt like a big goof this time around when she wasn't acting like a goon. Throwing cake? at Piper felt pretty out of character for her too, especially when she was supposed to be feeling bad for beating her up.
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Jun 9, 2014 03:12
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Having just finished it I think the most refreshing part of Season 2 is that they *didn't* turn Pennsyltucky into a straight up villain just because they made her a series regular. Also I wonder how much of a plot point the hidden heroin is in Season 3.
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computer parts posted:Also I wonder how much of a plot point the hidden heroin is in Season 3. I'd imagine it to be a big part of the plot. For Piper, I imagine most of season 3 will be reconciling with Alex in prison. Then I imagine that the drug boss will find a way to get someone on the inside to try and take Alex out, and it will be up to her and Piper to figure out who it is, and then to deal with the would-be assassin.
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WeLandedOnTheMoon! posted:I'd imagine it to be a big part of the plot. For Piper, I imagine most of season 3 will be reconciling with Alex in prison. Then I imagine that the drug boss will find a way to get someone on the inside to try and take Alex out, and it will be up to her and Piper to figure out who it is, and then to deal with the would-be assassin. I think this is a pretty fair guess about season 3's main plot lines. I hope we don't see Larry or Polly again.
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surf rock posted:Some other quick thoughts: Jason Biggs needs to go back to 1999 and never return. The character he plays is also terrible, so there's that, also. surf rock posted:- Morello's a complete lunatic and it's awesome. 
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Jun 9, 2014 04:45
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Glancing beside you is bad enough, but she was full on turned entirely around.
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Jun 9, 2014 04:52
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"I hope we don't see Larry or Polly again" should just be the season 3 thread title. They got way to much screen time, what did their entire story build up to? The burning bag of poo poo I guess. Which is actually very appropriate.
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I can't believe it took me until halfway through the second season to realize that Yoga Jones was the voice actress for Patti Mayonnaise.
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I've been watching this show, and similar to Weeds, I really don't feel like I have any idea what the gently caress it is about. Yes, women in prison, characters get some nuance, but the story is so stale that I feel really disconnected. Jason Biggs is also the worst.
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LibbyM posted:"I hope we don't see Larry or Polly again" should just be the season 3 thread title. They got way to much screen time, what did their entire story build up to? The burning bag of poo poo I guess. Which is actually very appropriate. I don't understand why they needed to include the whole getting Piper's blessing scene. The flaming bag of poo poo was short and sweet, and it was enough to communicate that Piper's feelings about her BFF and ex-fiance getting together, especially since Piper ends up needing help from them later on. Although I will say: Piper getting calm-angry has fast become one of my favourite things, and that scene was a great example of that.
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Jun 9, 2014 08:18
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I really liked how Larry (early episodes S2)tries to weasel his way into the journalist's story with his "Just talk to me, I have some pretty solid sources in the prison system, you know.  " B.S., and the guy just goes directly to Piper anyways. Larry is a pathetic hack.
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Chibs posted:Jason Biggs needs to go back to 1999 and never return. The character he plays is also terrible, so there's that, also. Just started season 2, and Taystee is the best character but Soso is so adorable and I hope she doesn't get prison shanked because I might actually cry.
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If Claudette hadn't been sent away for assaulting a guard, I'm pretty sure she would've murdered Soso.
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Also Soso is fit as gently caress and can do more lezza stuff in Season 3 as far as I'm concerned 
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bubblelubble posted:I don't understand why they needed to include the whole getting Piper's blessing scene. It shows they feel like they need to do something to make it up to her which sets up... bubblelubble posted:especially since Piper ends up needing help from them later on. that. Best line of the season was in Ep 9 from Pornstache: "I don't like your face. 312 - insolence. Shot!" That whole intro was pretty great really.
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Antifreeze Head posted:Best line of the season was in Ep 9 from Pornstache: "I don't like your face. 312 - insolence. Shot!" There are so many contenders for that award, but yeah... such an rear end in a top hat but I love every second of their screen time. With regards to the Larry situation... In a way I quite like that they juxtapose just how loving dumb and pointless the escapades of the friends and family outside the prison are, especially when Red/Vee were literally trying to kill each other over selling cosmetics inside, but I found the hippy brother and the Australian worse than Larry (who is awful). I truly hope that that's the end of their run on the show, I'm (kind of) glad they did something to confirm the relationship is over, but bringing them back for s3 would just be daft. Let it end there and move on. I wonder what the reactions of actresses are to say they have a call up for this show... on one hand they know it's got both critical acclaim and good ratings, but it's pretty much even more guaranteed than an HBO call up that they're going to have to do a nude scene.
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EL BROMANCE posted:I wonder what the reactions of actresses are to say they have a call up for this show... on one hand they know it's got both critical acclaim and good ratings, but it's pretty much even more guaranteed than an HBO call up that they're going to have to do a nude scene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUBiOOx0Pxw
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I just binged watched this over the weekend, and I laughed hysterically when Rose just ran over Vee, her body sailing into the air. Even though Vee was so comically evil, she had a certain gravitas in her voice and manner, that I assumed she would die in some kind of bloody gang war or cops filling her with bullets, but no, she gets run over by a cancer patient that she was rude to 
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EL BROMANCE posted:I wonder what the reactions of actresses are to say they have a call up for this show... on one hand they know it's got both critical acclaim and good ratings, but it's pretty much even more guaranteed than an HBO call up that they're going to have to do a nude scene. At this point, is there any major character under the age of 40 that hasn't been at least topless? For inmates anyway, I'm pretty sure Fig and both female guards kept their tops on.
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Antifreeze Head posted:At this point, is there any major character under the age of 40 that hasn't been at least topless? For inmates anyway, I'm pretty sure Fig and both female guards kept their tops on. Most of the black characters iirc.
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computer parts posted:Most of the Ftfy To include latinas not because I find blacks offensive
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computer parts posted:Most of the black characters iirc. Vee whipped em out when she was loving her adopted son before having him murdered  She really was a cartoon villain.
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IRQ posted:Vee whipped em out when she was loving her adopted son before having him murdered Hence "most".
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This show just needs to be about the Adventures of Rosa, and Pipers brother. Loved the ending of the series that was wonderful. Actually other than everything with Vee, the show as a whole was better. Also, really liked that the flashbacks were just character developement andnot " Here's the justification for why they are in Prison". I loving love Pipers brother.
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The show needs to ditch everyone except Tastee and the Old Lady Crew and just let us follow their adventures through prison. The old lady gang was amazing.
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