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Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!





"Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Welcome to the US politics thread!

Our country is in shambles as the rich continue to pillage it and our generation is completely screwed no matter what your political beliefs are. Here we post to talk about the latest stunt and discuss the appropriate liquor to drink when they manage to further sabotage the country and the planet.

Big Stuff in 2014:

Military Spending: COLA cuts to pensions were partially reversed. After the Dems overcame a filibuster in the Senate, Boehner tried to get it through the House as part of the debt ceiling package and failed. He had to grab enough Dems to pass it. Pension cuts have been reversed if you are already retried, but remain in place if you are yet to retire. Sen Sanders (I-VT) and 10 Democrats entered a bill (SB1982) to reverse the rest of the cuts, expand intra-family transfers of the GI Bill, and increase funding for the VA for both health procedures and processing. It is currently filibustered by Sen Grahamn (R-SC). SecDef Hagel has proposed cutting the military's personnel while increasing military spending by $115 bln over 5 years with a focus on hardware. This is vigorously opposed as "gutting defense" by republicans and has them sneering that Obama would rather spend on food stamps than the military, going to show that up is down and left is right.

Legalized marijuana: Colorado is reporting millions more in tax revenue that was originally anticipated, which has gotten a lot of attention from other states. Publicly it is at a majority for support.

Same sex marriage: Or, you know, just "marriage". In the wake of last years ruling we have seen a huge number of state level bans struck down, including in Kentucky, Utah, and Texas. So far Appellate courts are upholding those rulings, typically citing Justice Scalia's contributions to the ruling (which is also what is cited in striking down the bans, in some cases quoting him word for word). Through his ruling Anthony Scalia has literally, not at all figuratively, done more to bring about marriage equality in this nation than any other individual. Thinking about that warms my heart. The Supreme Court declined to hear a challenge by the National Organization for Marriage to reinstate the ban in Oregon, so it stays there.

Ryan Ideas: Ryan dropped a big pseudo-academic report that was a "summary" of government anti poverty programs and their effectiveness. He declared them ineffective citing studies. The authors of those studies came out and pointed out he was completely misrepresenting them to support his ideas. He got beat pretty heavily around the head with them so one month later when he released his budget which was supposed to lead the charge in reforming social welfare, that part was absent from the pitch. Good thing too, in order to achieve his goal of a balanced budget in 10 years with no tax reform and no changes to social security while expanding defense, he has to lay in deep cuts to the social safety net. ~86% of the costs in the Ryan budget would be born by the poor. gently caress this guy. Of course now he is back on his anti poverty train holding summer hearings on it. When the Dems tried to get actual poor people to testify he blocked them. When the poor people tried to sit in attendance they were shown the door by capital security. Irony is dead.


Select Committee on Benghazi: Boehner caved and appointed a special committe, making it the 9th committee to hold hearings on the events at the American consulate in Benghazi, Lybia on 11 Sept 2012. The committee is headed by former prosecutor Trey Gowdy (R-SC) in case you had any doubts this was being whipped towards impeachment. The other members are Susan Brooks (R-IN), Jim Jordan (R-OH), Mike Pompeo (R-KS), Martha Roby (R-AL), Peter Roskam (R-IL) Lynn Westmoreland (R-GA), Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) Adam Smith (D-WA), Adam B. Schiff (D-CA.) Linda T. Sánchez (D-CA.) and Tammy Duckworth (D-IL.) First order of business was of course fundraising, with the NRCC sending out mailers asking for money so they can "expose the Benghazi coverup".

Bowe Berghdahl: The story as is generally understood now is that in 2009 Bowe Bergdahl grew disillusioned with the Army while in Afghanistan and deserted. He ended up in Taliban custody, where he became a prisoner of war and was held for 5 years. President Obama recently traded 5 upper members of the Taliban for his release, keeping with long US policy to bringing everyone home from war. This has since become a major shitstorm.

Firstly, the issue is that Bergdahl by all accounts deserted his unit. Rolling Stone reported on the emails exchanged with his family, the US Army investigation found his questions to superiors about what would happen if he left with equipment to be suggestive, his gear was found in a neatly folded pile, and his unit commander alleges he left a note saying he was deserting.

Secondly, some members of his unit are claiming he was attempting to join the Taliban. This is at this time completely unconfirmed, and anyone even passingly familiar with the rumor mill of the enlisted should be skeptical.

Third, all deaths in the region are now being attributed to being lost while they were looking for him. This number has escalated from 5 to 6 to now 8, growing as it is told. Cross referencing the Manning files with the military database has all attributed deaths to thus far be simply in the region rather than directly connected with the search. That said, lack of support because other units were positioned for the search is certainly a thing to be considered.

Fourth, while Obama briefed Congress that he was going to negotiate a POW swap in 2012, for the actual swap he did not give the 30 days notice required by law. The administration cites exigent circumstances and health concerns as why they did not.

Fifth, there exists a bipartisan (though largely conservative) wing that wishes to define Guantanamo prisoners as neither criminals awaiting trial or Prisoners of War, and so object to a POW swap on those grounds. They feel this is "negotiating with terrorists" and will embolden further attacks. Hamdem v Rumsfeld made it clear that there is no special "terrorist" category that allows for dodging existing laws, treaties, and customs, and there is a long history of POW swaps, going back to George Washington. Even if it were negotiating with terrorists, we have done that before as well, as in the case of Iran-Contra.

Sixth people are unhappy about the terms of the deal, that 5 upper members of the Taliban were handed over. From what is available at this time it appears that all 5 were bureaucrats, albeit high ranking ones, rather than paramilitary. Further, the end of combat operations in August would trigger Article 75 of the Geneava Convention of 1929, requiring us to either prosecute them as criminals in a proper court or repatriate them. In all likelihood they were looking at imminent repatriation.

This of course has lead to death threats, calls for impeachment, swift reversal of position, and the usual outrage machine kicking into high gear. Republican strategists and former Bush administration officials Brad Chase and Richard Grenell are arranging the media bookings for people to tar Bergdahl and attack Obama in line with the above listed points. So far Bergdahl's hometown has canceled a "Welcome Back Bowe" celebration citing public safety due to the threats they have received

The DoD will be conducting a debriefing and investigation into the events surrounding Bergdahl's disappearance and his conduct while a POW. In terms of historical and legal precedent there is the case of Charles Robert Jenkins, who fled to avoid going to Vietnam, was captured and held but North Korea for 40 years. Upon his escape he was courts martial-ed, sentenced to 30 days confinement, and let go. However, the degree of political attention on this may guide the investigation and sentence.

Colonel, a Malinois from a UK K-9 unit is still being held somewhere in Laghman. He remains a good boy.

Veterans Affairs: Since 2005 the GAO has been reporting on the existence of a fake patient wait list that the administrators were using to fudge the numbers on wait times so they could get their bonuses without hitting the real metrics. 9 years and a lot of dead veterans later it finally boiled over into the main discourse. The scam involved a lot of collaboration from telephone operators taking the appointments and putting them on the fake list to the administrators altering scheduling software permissions so they wouldn't log who was doing the scheduling, and was basically done in the open through emails. Turning a blind eye to something that big for that long means the people in charge need to go, and they did - General Shinseki resigned as head of the Veterans Affairs. Unfortunately the person who replaces him as the new permanent head is extremely unlikely to have his perspective, experience, and dedication. Yes, dedication - even with all this we are talking about a guy who was the veteran of two tours of combat in the Vietnam War, was awarded three Bronze Stars for valor and a Purple Heart with an Oak Leaf Cluster when he lost part of his foot to a landmine. He oversaw a vast improvement in how the VA was run in most regards, got it more funding, reduced backlog, and genuinely cared about how veterans were treated. But he hosed up in not taking care of a known case of widespread malfeasance and needed to go.

For those keeping score at home, the big 3 scandals right now are that Obama doesn't care about Americans in harms way, that Obama will bend over to get Americans home safely, and that Obama doesn't care about Americans who were in danger overseas. Yeah, I get whiplash on that too.

Reproductive Rights:
Let's just say being a woman is getting kinda rough right now. We are waiting to hear about the ruling on whether insurance must cover birth control. Meanwhile states are moving forward in banning types of birth control, including the safest and most effective ones like IUDs. Abortion access is being rolled back through the use of private harassment, vandalism and occasionally murder and bullshit "health, safety, and cleanliness" regulations conceived and put in place explicitly to shut down abortion clinics. Keeping with the usual "the only moral X is my X" loopholes are being left that allow for paying a several thousand dollar fine to allow individuals to have abortions so when the rich have an unplanned surprise they can take care of it. But the whole point is to strip autonomy from women, which is why you see things like proposed laws that would let relatives of the father object and put a halt on the procedure being performed. And don't forget poorly worded laws that define women as pregnant 2 weeks before they conceive. All this is underpinned by their newest bit of pseudoscience, claiming that science has proven life begins at conception (scientists don't agree to that at all, the closest they come is saying the fetal cycle begins at implantation).

National Security Agency/Surveillance:
In the aftermath of 9/11 the NSA started an expansion so it would start grabbing everything. In 2004 this first came to light, though the NYT sat on it so as not to influence the election. In 2005 it was public. In 2006 it was so public it was on the cover of Wired. In 2010 the Washington Post did a massive project documenting how much it had grown, with the total global ubiquitous surveillance project consuming 70 billion a year through several departments. But no one but privacy experts, scifi authors, and the ACLU really cared until 2013. In June of that year NSA contractor Edward Snowden leaked a huge number of files to journalists and fled the country. This has had a huge number of aftershocks that are upending domestic and international politics. The dedicated thread for it is Here. Latest bit is that SWAT raided a Florida police department to seize materials documenting the stingray surveillance that a court had ordered be released.

Drones: The second worst kept secret in the world (after your porn stash) is that America has been running a drone program of targeted killing for the past several years. It was initially an outgrowth of the Cheney commanded kill teams project, meaning it was run by the CIA rather than the military proper. Over the years as the program became more of an open secret it has seen "reforms" transferring control to the military, no longer using pattern matching to select targets and the like. It has been scaling down of late as well, there has not been a drone strike in Pakistan in 6 months. It is still a highly controversial program however, with numerous ethical difficulties that need to be reconciled, many of which we can't because so much of it is still secret. Here's something fun to consider - if you showed your child Terminator you would need to explain to the what a phone book is, but not a merciless untiring killer robot that will kill everyone with the same name and those connected to them to be thorough.


Mass shootings: Memorial Day weekend saw 4 spree shootings in Santa Barbra (CA), Myrtle Beach (SC), Chicago (IL), and Clinton (LA). Most attention is being paid to the Santa Barbra shooter, Elliot Rogers. He was a well educated young man who suffered from depression, ended up in the MRA community where he got radicalized, started lashing out, and then killed 6 people. If that sounds like the same pattern that suicide bombers follow rather than your usual shooters, yep. Currently the big fight is over whether this is something to be addressed by mental health or combating misogyny, with the usual brutal leftist infighting because we can. No one is even remotely mentioning new gun control legislation, which has led the gun nuts to stop issuing death threats to new businesses in the gun manufacturing market and start howling that because he stabbed 3 people no one should say anything bad about their fetish totems guns.
(Edit: I wrote this section at 1 am EST 5 June, there was another mass shooting at Seattle Pacific University at 3:35 pm on 5 June. This country man)


Sgt. Tahmoorsessi: Marine currently being held in Mexico on weapons smuggling charges. His story is that he wasn't smuggling, he went to meet some friends in California with 3 guns in his trunk (an AR-15, .45 pistol and 12 gauge shotgun), took a wrong turn and ended up in Mexico where they are illegal. He is the current cause celebre for the right now that Obama got Bergdahl back and if Obama did it it must be bad.

Pink Crow: Mississippi Senate passed it most recently, Kansas it passed the house and died in the senate, Arizona it got through the legislature and was vetoed by the governor, Tennessee, South Dakota, Georgia, Idaho, Arizona, and Kentucky are all pushing the bills as well. Identical bills written by the American Religious Freedom Program popped up everywhere. If that sounds like the model ALEC uses, it's because they are joined at the hip through the Ethics and Public Policy Center and Heritage Foundation, with people in all 4 of those organizations performing secondment to another. Anyways, while all the focus is on the attempt to bring back Jim Crow laws against LBGT people, the legalese they are really trying to slip through is a redefinition of what constitutes an organization's rights, and what constitutes government interference in those rights. Under these bills if a private individual took a discriminating agency to court, the fact that it was in court would constitute government interference and allow them to invoke constitutional protections. Yes, I am focusing more on the legal corporate bullshit of it than the horrible repressiveness of it because if I actually need to explain why that stuff is bad just get the hell out of the thread right now.

Food Stamps: Finally got pushed through, with deep cuts (8 bln over 10 years). Millions suffering. Economy is worsening as aggregate demand slackens. Businesses cautiously complaining. Republicans defiant that their making GBS threads on the poor makes the poor better and they should be grateful for it. Debate is now about how much more to cut. Some states found away around the cuts but adjusting the levels of heating oil they give the poor, qualifying them for food stamps. Boehner is furious and looking for a way to reverse that and punish those states for "thwarting the will of Congress and the American People". State's Rights! (to poo poo on the poor)

Unemployment Insurance: Millions suffering. Economy is worsening as aggregate demand slackens. Businesses cautiously complaining. This has finally got the Senate to move into action, and they have gotten together a deal to renew it. Boehner is strongly opposed to it, and won't get a hearing in the House, defiant that their making GBS threads on the poor makes the poor better and they should be grateful for it.

Infrastructure: Obama has proposed $302 bln in new infrastructure spending to repair roads, bridges and the like. Even post stimulus out infrastructure is in huge need of repair after decades of neglect (thanks Reagan), and this winter really did a number on roads across the nation. Republicans are of course opposed to it. This is problematic because The Highway Trust Fund is almost broke Obama’s $302 bln plan is paid for largely through a $150 bln “pro-growth tax reform” tax hike on corporations rather than gas taxes or leaving them in disrepair. There’s basically no chance in hell the GOP is going to pass that, even if Obama wasn’t president. In all likelihood the solution will be a transfer from the General fund, but it is still an issue.

Elections: Rough timeline, varies with state – signatures submitted in February, Primary in April, General in November. Strap in, the crazy will be out in force. So far the Tea Party has been "losing" the primaries in that the incumbent or establishment backed choice has been winning. Of course, those candidates have been going whole hog on the Tea Party rhetoric so it is more a case of the Tea Party and establishment merging (though all along the only difference has been tactics so...). The closest we've had to an official tea party upset is in Mississippi which is now headed to a runoff and has been a complete clusterfuck of spying on women with dementia in hospitals and unethical if not illegal antics. Also, Cantor is having to play hard defense in his district against a challenger, which is surprising. All in all the dems are looking slightly more competitive than was originally thought. The summer is state convention season, which is largely inconsequential but entertaining since only the hardcore partisans turn out so you can get all sorts of drama.

Big Names for 2016:
Chris Christie: His giving away of pensions to hedge funds turned out to run afoul of state anti corruption laws. His budget got ripped last month for being unworkable. David Samson is fighting his subpoena so he doesn’t have to testify against Christie.

Scott Walker: Book flopped, snubbed by most of the money, still the Koch brother’s favorite son. James O'Keefe did a takedown of a Republican Michale Ellis because Ellis has been going after Walker's unworkable budget attempts and styming his agenda.

Mike Pence: Making a lot of motions about it, speaking at conservative events, but with Daniel’s DoR shenanigans still hanging around Indianapolis we’ll see how far he goes.

Ted Cruz: toured Iowa to meet with organizers and district chairs in March, signed a "MEGA book deal" and endorsed in primaries (and connected with organizers and district chairs) in April, stumping in New Hampshire in May, still meeting with his gang at Taco Cabana to jam up things in the house and senate. Has recently been claiming that a prosposed amendment to roll back Citizen's United is an attempt to repeal the first amendment. If you see someone with an avatar of his face, add them to your ignore list and be happier for it.

Donald Trump: claiming he may decide to run for Governor of New York. This did not happen.

Rick Perry: Moving to run again, trumpeting the “Texas miracle” that isn’t. Latest “triumph” was paying Toyota $40 million out of the state slush fund to get them to move ~4,000 jobs there.

Jeb Bush: With Christie faltering he is the establishment’s man. Said he’ll announce at the end of this year.

Ben Carson: Still out there being a conservative personality. The PAC people says he has isn’t actually his, it is run by the team that ran Newt’s campaign in 2012. Grifting, the never ending saga.

Mitt Romney: Don’t laugh. He isn’t looking to be candidate again (for now), but he is acting as an establishment counter to Jim DeMint, arranging money and connections for the corporate side like how DeMint provides money and connections for the populist side.

Bernie Sanders: Talking about running, won’t have money for it, will be ignored, unlikely to even shift the message on economic policy.

Elizabeth Warren: Polls at #2 behind Clinton (behind by 23 points). She is adamant she isn’t running, and her book tour pointedly does not stop in Iowa or New Hampshire because she didn’t want to fuel speculation she is running. This has resulted in much speculation she is running.

Martin O'Malley: Governor of Maryland, working to shore up liberal credentials

Andrew Cuomo: Governor of New York, and the arch-typical corporate Dem. For a while it looked like he was going to be sunk in his re-election bid by having a liberal challenger, but he managed to placate the Working Families Party at the last minute, so he will be secure to run as the Democrat banker hack in 2016.

Brian Schweitzer: ex Governor of Montana, has an interesting "liberaltarian" thing going where he wants to scrap the ACA for single payer, hates the NSA, hates addressing global warming, and is so pro gun he had a piece of legislature that exempted firearms made in Montana from federal law.

Hillary Clinton: Basically hers for the taking. Of course, Monica Lewinsky just got a book deal. The 18 year olds eligible to vote in 2016 will have been 2 when that broke, so no one is really going to care. Latest riff is "she is too old" and "she has brain damage". Yeah, the next 10 years will be a lot of fun and not aggravating at all.

Joe Biden: Wants it. Had the saddest look on his face when Obama talked about how Hillary was in a good position to win the nomination in front of him. It will be OK Joe.

Executive Branch staffing changes:
Veterans Affairs: Shinseki resigned, temporarily replaced by Sloan Gibson
Housing and Urban Development: Shaun Donovan is moving to head OMB, San Antonio mayor Julian Castro nominated to replace him
Office of Management and Budget: Sylvia Mathews Burwell is moving to head HHS, HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan nominated to replace her
Health and Human Services: Kathleen Sebelius is retiring, Sylvia Mathews Burwell nominated to replace, confirmed June 5th
Press Secretary: Jay Carney retired to spend more time with his family (and learn to grow a decent beard), Josh Earnest is replacing him
DoJ: In February Eric Holder announced plans to retire later this year. No reason was given, but shortly there after he was hospitalized so a health reason is plausible. If he does it after the GOP wins big expect them to claim they claimed a scalp rather than him following through with previously announced plans. No mention of possible replacements yet.

Affordable Care Act: Over 8 million signups, 80-90% look to have made their payments, costs are following the expected “short surge, gradual drop” wave pattern that was expected, lowest rate of uninsured since they started tracking. It’s working, plain and simple. New challenge that the Feds can provide subsidies to plans bought through federal run exchanges instead of state exchanges was signed off by a Republican dominated Appellate court after being thrown out under the absurdity challenge by two previous courts, keep an eye on that. The latest bits of news are that, post expansion 1 in 5 Americans are now on Medicaid and the push to repeal the employer mandate is growing stronger. Dropping the employer mandate is one of those things that would hurt you politically (people would see a lot of disruption of companies then chse to end their program and individual plans cost more) but is theoretically useful policy (in that more people in the individual market would "make them aware" of health care costs and according to market theory they would consume less of it and costs would go down). I don't really buy the "consume less" theory; it isn't like people are going "gosh I was going to break my leg for kicks and giggles but I don't want those higher premiums". Physical pain is a stronger deterrent than economic pain and people aren't going to intentionally injure themselves so they can get more health care.

Republican Health Care Plan: *crickets chirp*

New EPA regulations: The EPA has announced new standards for carbon emissions by 2030. While termed a 30% reduction that is from where current projections put it for 2030, they are only a 15% reduction from where we are now. That's also not accurate because that is an aggregate estimate of where levels will fall to if the states meet the goals the EPA sets rather than saying "you will reduce it to this level". It will work by having the EPA is setting 49 different emission goals, state by state (Vermont DC have no fossil fuel powered plants). For each state the emission goal is calculated based off their emission rates and how much can reasonably be cut through making existing coal plants more efficient, running natural gas more often and at higher capacity, increasing energy efficiency of homes and businesses in the state, and boosting wind, solar, and nuclear usage. The states are free to choose how they will hit those goals (they can use the 4 measures the EPA uses to estimate the target or come up with another method). Should states refuse to comply (looking at you Texas) the EPA will step in and run the show, in keeping with the decision in EPA v. EME Homer City Generation that granted them the right to regulate based off cross state effects. This, combined with other steps the Obama administration has taken in the past 6 years are large a big deal in the fight against climate change. It still won't be enough to prevent major disruption but it is a big improvement. The Obama administration hoped that by taking unilateral action other countries would improve their own emissions as well. Which is what is happening, as the day after the EPA announcement China announced it would put carbon emissions control in their next 5 year plan. Deliciously that meant that the announcement came over the wire the same time people were reading ht e op-eds saying China wouldn't do anything.


Net Neutrality: It’s dead. Pretty much a natural outgrowth of Bush’s decision to encourage monopolies instead of cracking open the market like they did in every other country. Currently the FCC is taking open comments from the public to "inform its decision". http://www.fcc.gov/comments is where you can make your voice heard.
John Oliver does a fantastic and hilarious recap here

Immigration: Speaker Boehner tried to cobble together a meaningless soundbyte of "principles" so they would have talking points that made it sound like they were the ones trying to get things done, and even empty platitudes and spin was a bridge too far.

Tax Reform: Rep Camp (R-Midland, MI) is chair of the House Ways and Means Committee and he finally came out with something. Unlike Rep Ryan's empty bluster this is fully articulated policy. Rather than raising the burden on the middle class through hikes and lies about who would be paid how, this placed most of the burden on the upper crust by closing loopholes and impsong a tax on the banks. It has also led to him being ripped to shreds by his fellow Republicans for breaking their core vow to never do anything but direct more wealth to the rich, and from Wall Street which basically froze donations to all Republican groups as soon as this went public. It isn't a great plan, but it is more than rigged numbers and carving out new economic rents to be handed to the rich which makes it a sharp break from any policy the GOP has laid out since at least the 90s. apparently in-depth analysis of the AMT changes work out to it being rigged numbers and a massive handout to the rich. David Camp has since announced he is retiring, in no small part thanks to the huge blow-back on the plan.

Patent Reform: Made it through the House 325 to 91 in December. Repeatedly pushed for by the President, civil liberty groups, and corporate interest groups. Sen Leahy (D-VT) has a bill to get it through the Senate, Sen Schumer (D-NY) had a similar bill with a few tweaks that are agreed would be even better but would need a return to the House. Leahy's bill had come to agreeable language with John Cornyn negotiating for the Republicans, then Harry Reid met with Leahy and Leahy spiked the bill. Yeah, the Dems have full blame here.

State level shutdowns: After the amazing success that was the GOP shutting down the federal government over the ACA, they have decided to take the act on the road, with multiple state level governments looking at shutdown over the fight over the Medicaid expansion. Missouri and Virginia are the ones that will hit the brink first, but several other states are in a similar position.

Wall Street: The DoJ has announced an investigation into the practices of High Frequency Trading. Michael Lewis has a new book out on this topic. The news coverage about HFT as a result of these two things has been met with eye rolling and stating it is old news by Wall Street, and shock by Main street. Which is pretty much why it is a problem. The banks have since started threatening that investigating the banks could crash the economy, so best not do it. Oh, and Bank of America just lost $2.7 bln due to sloppy accounting.

Wall Street Prosecutions Fines: Judge Jed Rakoff has been raising hell about the settlements between the banks and the SEC, rejecting them for being too small and letting the crimes go unpunished. The federal appellate (2nd Circuit Court of Appeals ) rebuked him for "abuse of discretion" and signed off on the settlements. Yes, the one person in the legal system on the side of the public just got reprimanded by his superiors for thinking the fines should at lease be withing two orders of magnitude of the profit made by the crime. gently caress it all.

Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.: SCOTUS heard the arguments. Kennedy seemed receptive because he took it as a challenge to abortion. Really no way they can rule on this short of "No, obey the law or forgo the tax credits" that won't massively upend some precedent, so brace yourselves. SCOTUSBlog summary

McCutcheon v. Federal Election Commission: SCOTUS struck down personal caps on campaign donations, though caps remain for corporations and unions. Welcome to the reason why we drink. SCOTUSBlog summary

Harris vs. Quinn: This case could basically eradicate public unions, and cut total union membership in half. Interestingly Scalia looks to be the swing vote and was sympathetic to the unions in his line of questioning. SCOTUSBlog summary

Town of Greece v. Galloway: In a 5-4 decision SCOTUS said you can have prayer before meetings, made it much more difficult to challenge legislative prayers, kicked the establishment clause in the jimmy, and is notable for its split along court religious lines, and Alito’s mocking Kagan’s line of questioning in his concurrence. The cracks in the wall are really showing lately, with heavy sniping by Bush appointees at Obama appointees.

China: Their latest economic reports apparently look ominously like the ones from America in the fall of 2007 when the collapse of the housing bubble spread to the banks. Specifically the cause of concern is their TED Spread which is the gap between two interest rates, and used as a marker of the financial strength of banks. TED stands for Treasury Eurodollar and is calculating subtracting the interest rate on treasury bills from the three-month dollar LIBOR. Brief note from Krugman on it and here is a Bloomberg piece on it. China imploding would be so bad it isn't really worth thinking about, much like it isn't worth thinking about if an dino-killer sized asteroid was falling towards Earth. There isn't anything you can do about it, so just pour a whiskey sour and hope the central bankers get it right this time.

Ukraine: Russia annexed Crimea, the Ukraine is in a state of poo poo with various declared military groups, undeclared military groups, paramilitary groups, and armed political factions running around raising merry hell. The US is strengthening is military presence in the region to "reassure" world leaders.

Israel & Palestine: Negotiations had previously broken down over the issue of settlements, and not even the offer of releasing Jonathan Pollard could keep Israel at the table. Palestine has just formed a new unity government between the PLO (dominated by the Fatah faction) and Hamas and now Israel really doesn't want to negotiate.

Iran: Negotiations with the "P5+1" (the 5 members of the UN Security Council plus Germany) towards a comprehensive deal continue. Just committed to a 6 month deal with the US in addition to whatever they are continuing to negotiate with everyone. The House leadership has said they won't pass any new sanctions, so at least they aren't going to jam up foreign relations. Hatred of working with the Senate Dems to do anything overcame their hatred of Iran. Senate GOP is using it as cover to torpedo bills that would be problematic - officially the reason Sen Graham filibustered the veterans care bill was because it couldn't be amended to include sanctions against Iran. This is actually moving ahead now, at least on the US side because domestic attempts to jam it up have been delayed so far. However, the hardliners in Iran are trying to jam it up on their end, so we will see how it all shakes out.

European Union: The European Central Bank is finally taking steps to correct the problems with its economy. It is cutting its main policy rate to 0.15% (which will expand the money supply and decrease the cost of borrowing) and is going to cut the deposit rate to -0.10% meaning that in effect banks will be charged for holding their excess reserves in the ECB rather than lending. The additional hope is this will boost the value of the euro and increase EU exports. The ECB is also looking into implementing their own quantitative easing as another means to get the economy going. Basically, the fact that people were upset that the dominant parties had no solutions for the problems of the past 6 years got them to turn to the far right parties, which scared the crap out of the leaders to finally start doing something about the mass unemployment, low wages, high prices, and the like. The EU does a LOT of trade with the US so them getting their economy back on track will help our economy.


If that looks like a lot of critical stuff that is absolutely within the purview of the government but for some reason is getting no traction, welcome to the thread.


Useful Reads:


America's class system across life cycle - in case you were under the misapprehension things might get better


Opinions of the 1%: Since they are the ones who matter, it is fun to compare what they think with what the general public thinks. Poll results by the Russell Sage Foundation. "Elites" are defined as at or near "the 1%" in wealth with an average income of $1M/yr or more. The perspectives of this group are compared to responses from other polls such as Pew and Gallup. Poll details here

Election Models
Washington Post's Election Lab This model is done by the team from http://themonkeycage.org/ At this point is is based off the fundamentals and does not yet incorporate early polling. Polling will be weighted and phased in later, they feel it is too inaccurate this far out

The Upshot's Senate Forecast The New York Times built its own model based off what they still owned of Nate Silver's work after he left. This is based off weighted polling and does not incorporate the fundamentals

Sabato's Crystal Ball This model is by political scientist Alan Abramowitz of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics

FiveThirtyEight Nate Silver's new site. He has not yet deployed his election model beyond a few early blog post predictions. This is a placeholder for it.

Why Senate Forecasting Models Differ - a more detailed breakdown of why these models have different results.



Media:
Watch Alpha House on Amazon. If you are a regular in this thread it is right up your alley. It has been renewed for a second season.

Mitt on Netflix is a documentary of the Romneys during the campaigns, focusing on the family rather than the politics.

Inequality for all is a documentary, now on netflix instant. Watch it

House of Cards Season 2 came out February 14th, holy poo poo watch it.

Threads is a BBC movie about nuclear war and its aftermath, watch it if your will to live has become too strong.

The Battle of the Somme is on youtube, it was an early attempt at propaganda to get people to join the war effort and had the exact opposite effect.

Do Not Ask What Good We Do by Robert Draper. Good summary of the insanity after the 2010 midterms

Collision 2012 by Dan Balz covers the 2012 election (including some of the GOP primary) and written like it was a thread regular. Highly entertaining.

Fiasco by Thomas Ricks. If you ever start to fade on how bad the naughty aughties were, here is a reminder of just one sliver of the gross malfeasance.

I.O.U.: Why Everyone Owes Everyone and No One Can Pay by John Lancaster. Decent explanation of securities, debt, finance, and why its all a mess. Mainly a decent fast reference for us if you get confused about how economics, finance, and politics move together.

Capital in the Twenty-First Century by Thomas Piketty. New book on wealth and economics making huge waves with people. Probably worth a look.

The Divide: American Injustice in the Age of the Wealth Gap by Matt Taibbi. What it says on the tin. This is a comparison of the treatment of the rich and the poor by the justice system. Guaranteed to piss you off.


Reporters:
Ta-Nehis Coates Pronounced like Tallahassee but with an "N" instead of an "H". In America politics has been intertwined with race since the beginning, and as much as we may wish to deny it it is still a core part of who we are as a nation. There is no better writer on race in America than Ta-Nehisi Coates. He covers it all, from historical research to modern commentary. Read him if you want great insight to how things are and why.

Robert Costa formerly of the National Review, newly of the Washington Post has amazing insider reports on dirt and action being done in congress. His op-eds are right wing, as to be expected, but his twitter is a play by play of the insider game, and a great source.

Matt Taibbi Formerly of the Rolling Stone, currently attached to First Look Media as the editor for the digital magazine, but hasn't put out anything in a while. Going by his requests on twitter his next piece has something to do with small town corruption. Does have a new book out though, read it if you want to get pissed

Andrew Sullivan Widely regarded as the most influential blogger, on the basis that he is read by most of the government (Obama says he reads his site nightly) and has been quoted three times as support in arguments before the Supreme Court. British immigrant and conservative puts him in line with the blue dogs of the current Democrats. Quite active in the marriage equality movement. He has an unpleasant fondness for believing scientific racism.

David Corn If there is a video out there of a politician doing something they shouldn't, David Corn has it. Famously broke the 47% video at Mother Jones, has since broke a number of other videos embarassing high profile politicians.

Vox Media Home to Ezra Klein and Matt Yglesias Probably the best of the new "data journalism" sites, Vox is on target, fast to respond to breaking news, brief, and easy to understand. They are very new but so far very good.

Thomas Friedman No.



Other stuff
IRC is in #poligoon on synirc Find us there during live streams of random poo poo. Go to this link and enter a username to get on the IRC channel: #PoliGoon on irc.synirc.net



For the day to day “gently caress it all” stuff, this link will help



Finally, I've been accused of having a liberal bias in the OP before, so I am providing space for a rebuttal:

quote:


AS I've been trying to explain to libtards everywhere, Benghazi!

Secret Muslim Kool-Aid! Anti-obesity drink more water, I say hah to your global warming conspiracy. I WANT TO BRING MY GUN INTO ANY drat TACO BELL I WANT TO BRING IT. We must stop leading from behind. Being anti-gay marriage isn't bigotry, it's just reminding people it's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Evan. So stop trying to keep my freedom.

Barry Soweto bankrupt buy gold, but Cliven Bundy hero not tax cheat taxes aren't legal state trumps it camp at his house with my unit of militiamen patriots.

Go to Target with automatic weapons? Of course, because Ted Nugent hunts buffalo without your Hopey Changey unions.

So if you Behnghazi, then lamestream media Fox News Trayvon Martin was no victim. I lost my freedom because of you Hippie Dippie Hippy Dippys, and the only Joe the Plumber dead kids my guns matter more. My guns matter more, because good guy with a gun stops Hitler, and I can tell the difference.

I can't say this enough, I WANT TO BRING MY GUN INTO ANY drat TACO BELL I WANT TO BRING IT!

Hilary has a head injury.

Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Jun 6, 2014

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Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.
Welp, luckily I was already drinking when you posted this.

That rebuttal is awesome, thanks for that if nothing else.

Pohl fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Jun 6, 2014

ErIog
Jul 11, 2001

:nsacloud:

quote:

AS I've been trying to explain to libtards everywhere, Benghazi!

Secret Muslim Kool-Aid! Anti-obesity drink more water, I say hah to your global warming conspiracy. I WANT TO BRING MY GUN INTO ANY drat TACO BELL I WANT TO BRING IT. We must stop leading from behind. Being anti-gay marriage isn't bigotry, it's just reminding people it's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Evan. So stop trying to keep my freedom.

Barry Soweto bankrupt buy gold, but Cliven Bundy hero not tax cheat taxes aren't legal state trumps it camp at his house with my unit of militiamen patriots.

Go to Target with automatic weapons? Of course, because Ted Nugent hunts buffalo without your Hopey Changey unions.

So if you Behnghazi, then lamestream media Fox News Trayvon Martin was no victim. I lost my freedom because of you Hippie Dippie Hippy Dippys, and the only Joe the Plumber dead kids my guns matter more. My guns matter more, because good guy with a gun stops Hitler, and I can tell the difference.

I can't say this enough, I WANT TO BRING MY GUN INTO ANY drat TACO BELL I WANT TO BRING IT!

Hilary has a head injury.

This is poetry of the highest order. It's doing things with the English language that seem impossible.

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Ugh I want to go cry after reading the OP.

Is anything being done about Student Loans or am I going to be a debt peon for the rest of my life?

Amergin
Jan 29, 2013

THE SOUND A WET FART MAKES
Yay I'm a part of history now.

Also I felt like this was a pretty decent Senate response to the VA thing and you know who would've been a great guy to implement it?

Eric Shinseki. as if it'll pass the house while costing $2bn

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.

Rand alPaul posted:

Ugh I want to go cry after reading the OP.

Is anything being done about Student Loans or am I going to be a debt peon for the rest of my life?

Enjoy your freedom as an American to be a slave. In other words, no.

Fried Chicken
Jan 9, 2011

Don't fry me, I'm no chicken!
to be clear, I grabbed the rebuttal out of the freep thread. I didn't write that

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
A piece in TNR on Bergdahl. A mixture of condemning Bergdahl for walking off, acknowledging that Bergdahl became a scapegoat for service members to use when poo poo went poorly, right or wrong. Finishes on a note other than "gently caress you, Bergdahl rarrrg" and doesn't once bitch about the prisoner exchange http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118006/bowe-bergdahl-perspective-marine-afghanistan

Notably, it is possibly going too far to call Bergdahl a deserter, despite the fact that I believe that he left of his own volition. Desertion is specifically leaving your post with the intent to never return. Suppose someone asks for leave to go to a family wedding, for example, and is denied but then decides to go to the wedding anyway. This person also plans to return 2 days later and accept punishment for being absent without leave. That person is not a deserter. If Bergdahl intended to go on some weird-as-hell walkabout, but didn't expect to get captured and separated from his unit indefinitely, he is not a deserter. Failure to report, AWOL, and desertion are all different.

Mayor Dave
Feb 20, 2009

Bernie the Snow Clown
That OP gets more depressing every month.

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Fried Chicken posted:

to be clear, I grabbed the rebuttal out of the freep thread. I didn't write that

That makes it all the more magical.

e. Hilary has a head injury.

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Pohl posted:

Enjoy your freedom as an American to be a slave. In other words, no.

Yay. I figured so. :woop:

Defenestration
Aug 10, 2006

"It wasn't my fault that my first unconscious thought turned out to be-"
"Jesus, kid, what?"
"That something smelled delicious!"


Grimey Drawer

Fried Chicken posted:

to be clear, I grabbed the rebuttal out of the freep thread. I didn't write that

Did a freeper write it? Or did a freep threader making fun of them?

I want to believe

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.
Maddow continues to own. http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show
They have done something to the video linking, but you should really check out her latest piece on the prisoner exchange.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

I keep hearing that Bergdahl left the base to go take a crap since he was getting hazed like crazy and when he got caught literally with his pants around his ankles. Why does this seem to get glossed over? Like I feel like this is something that should be stressed that this guy couldn't take a crap in peace without his rear end in a top hat squad hazing him. Hell if I'd gone through that I probably would have snapped.

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.

KomradeX posted:

I keep hearing that Bergdahl left the base to go take a crap since he was getting hazed like crazy and when he got caught literally with his pants around his ankles. Why does this seem to get glossed over? Like I feel like this is something that should be stressed that this guy couldn't take a crap in peace without his rear end in a top hat squad hazing him. Hell if I'd gone through that I probably would have snapped.

Because gently caress Obama.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

KomradeX posted:

I keep hearing that Bergdahl left the base to go take a crap since he was getting hazed like crazy and when he got caught literally with his pants around his ankles. Why does this seem to get glossed over? Like I feel like this is something that should be stressed that this guy couldn't take a crap in peace without his rear end in a top hat squad hazing him. Hell if I'd gone through that I probably would have snapped.

Where do you keep hearing this?

Also, holy poo poo, if you're getting hazed you don't leave the wire to take your chances with insurgents. You report it, etc. Even if reporting did literally nothing because every single person in his chain of command was evil/careless, you know what's worse than hazing? Leaving the wire with absolutely no armor or weapons.

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.

mlmp08 posted:

Where do you keep hearing this?

Also, holy poo poo, if you're getting hazed you don't leave the wire to take your chances with insurgents. You report it, etc. Even if reporting did literally nothing because every single person in his chain of command was evil/careless, you know what's worse than hazing? Leaving the wire with absolutely no armor or weapons.

It doesn't matter. We brought him home, and we can debate it once we have some facts, but it doesn't matter. He is home.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Pohl posted:

It doesn't matter. We brought him home, and we can debate it once we have some facts, but it doesn't matter. He is home.

Agreed that bringing him home was both a moral and military imperative. I am just laughing at the idea that he left the wire without any gear to take a poo poo.

mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Jun 6, 2014

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Here's something that I've been wondering. One of the complaints is that some soldiers were killed looking for Bergdahl after he was missing, right? Well, who gave out the order to go search for him? It was his commanding officers in his battalion, I'd assume, and not ordered directly by Obama himself. Isn't that kind of important to note?

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.

mlmp08 posted:

Agreed that bringing him home was both a moral and military imperative. I am just laughing at the idea that he left the wire without any gear except to take a poo poo.

I'm probably alone in the fact that I don't care if he deserted or not. I don't care what happened. Fix him up and let him live his life; he is going to be hosed up, without doubt, and you know he is going to be constantly monitored. I say gently caress it, leave the guy alone.

Edit: since this is about Obama, the poor guy is a loving chew toy now. gently caress the Conservative movement in our county, I don't even know what they care about anymore.

Pohl fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Jun 6, 2014

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Pohl posted:

It doesn't matter. We brought him home, and we can debate it once we have some facts, but it doesn't matter. He is home.

This, this whole thing right here is loving true. I couldn't give less of a gently caress if he had planned to loving walk back to America some how, he's home and that's all the matters. The rank hypocrisy and bile I have seen people express that this guy is home, well I didn't think I could be anymore disgusted by American politics, or toxic mil-culture, but this has plumed new lows.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Mr Interweb posted:

Here's something that I've been wondering. One of the complaints is that some soldiers were killed looking for Bergdahl after he was missing, right? Well, who gave out the order to go search for him? It was his commanding officers in his battalion, I'd assume, and not ordered directly by Obama himself. Isn't that kind of important to note?

Yeah, definitely. But would it really work to say "this kid walked off, so gently caress him, keep on doing what you were already doing." Not really.

But to make an extreme example, if an arsonist burns down an empty house and a fireman dies putting out the fire, do you blame the fire chief for telling the firemen to put out the fire or do you blame the arsonist that set the fire?

Scott O'Grady also catches a lot of poo poo for generally being an idiot, doing things all goddamned wrong, then almost getting himself shot by his rescuers. It just so happens that there's no argument to be made that he caused a death.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver
Colbert used "Berghgdazi" tonight. I called it that someone would use it.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

mlmp08 posted:

Yeah, definitely. But would it really work to say "this kid walked off, so gently caress him, keep on doing what you were already doing." Not really.

But to make an extreme example, if an arsonist burns down an empty house and a fireman dies putting out the fire, do you blame the fire chief for telling the firemen to put out the fire or do you blame the arsonist that set the fire?

Scott O'Grady also catches a lot of poo poo for generally being an idiot, doing things all goddamned wrong, then almost getting himself shot by his rescuers. It just so happens that there's no argument to be made that he caused a death.

i am curious, how did o'grady gently caress up? i remember him getting mad at the movie based on him because it had swearing in it.

Swan Oat
Oct 9, 2012

I was selected for my skill.
If -ghazi replaces -gate as the suffix for political scandals, it will enrich this country more than any amount of fair, progressive taxation or schemes to redistribute money from the rich to the poor.

Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

JT Jag posted:

Colbert used "Berghgdazi" tonight. I called it that someone would use it.

Should've been Berghazi, it sounds better.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

pengun101 posted:

i am curious, how did o'grady gently caress up? i remember him getting mad at the movie based on him because it had swearing in it.

Basically every step of his shootdown, survival, and recovery was a comedy of errors that he somehow lived through. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/allamerican-heros-errors-bring-nato-down-to-earth-1590222.html

My favorite part is rushing toward his rescuers brandishing a weapon.

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.

mlmp08 posted:

Basically every step of his shootdown, survival, and recovery was a comedy of errors that he somehow lived through. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/allamerican-heros-errors-bring-nato-down-to-earth-1590222.html

My favorite part is rushing toward his rescuers brandishing a weapon.

The Pentagon lies all the loving time. That doesn't discredit the soldiers involved, it discredits the Pentagon.
Ask Jessica Lynch.

What is your point, exactly?

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

I didn't see it int he OP, how about the New Voting Rights Act?

Al Jazerra posted:


Stalled Voting Rights Act amendment leaves voters vulnerable, critics say
WASHINGTON — Almost six months after lawmakers unveiled bipartisan legislation aimed at amending the gutted Voting Rights Act, the bill is languishing in Congress, leaving voters vulnerable to discrimination, critics say.

In the summer of 2013, the Supreme Court in Shelby County v. Holder struck down Section 4 of the Voting Rights Act, which required states with a history of voting discrimination to clear any changes to their voting laws with the Department of Justice. The court, however, also said in the majority ruling that Congress was free to come up with a new formula for which states would face additional scrutiny, taking into account their more recent brushes with voting rights infringements.

To that end, in January, Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., and Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., sponsored a bill that created a new coverage formula for which states would have to submit future voting law changes to the federal government for preapproval. Under the new criteria, if a state has more than five violations of federal law pertaining to voting rights in the past 15 years, it would have to obtain clearance from the Justice Department to implement new ordinances. Those states would include Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas, according to a report in The Nation.

But as the November elections rapidly approach, the House Judiciary Committee, chaired by Republican Rep. Bob Goodlatte of Virginia, has not moved to schedule a hearing or a markup on the legislation, to the dismay of voting rights groups that have been pushing for Section 4 to be reinstated. Leahy, meanwhile, has not been able to find Republican co-sponsors for the bill in the Senate.

“The process is what’s stalling,” said Nicole Austin-Hillery, counsel and director of the Washington, D.C., office of the Brennan Center for Justice, a voter advocacy group. “There have been lots of conversations with members of both parties, and with the leadership within the Republican Party, but we've got to get a hearing.”

Austin-Hillery said Goodlatte, as well as members of the House leadership including Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., have been receptive to the idea of considering the legislation, but have asked for additional information regarding which states are currently being accused of discriminatory voting practices and if those states would be covered under the new proposal.

“Those are valid questions, but I think the position of the voting rights community is that those are the types of question that should be asked in a hearing,” she said. “That is the purpose of a hearing.”

Jotaka Eaddy, senior director of voting rights at the NAACP, also said voting rights organizations were more than happy to furnish additional information, but moving forward with the legislative process was integral in the next few weeks. The hope of activists is to get a bill to the president’s desk in advance of the 2014 midterm elections, when millions of Americans will go to the polls.

“We are making very clear the need for this legislation to move forward in the congressional process so that we can have the conversation,” Eaddy said. “The risk is just too great for voters.”

The NAACP provided an extensive memo to the House Judiciary Committee outlining various instances of discriminatory voting practices signed into law in the past year that have an outsize impact on vulnerable populations. The North Carolina Legislature, for instance, almost immediately passed an omnibus voting bill that instituted an ID requirement, cut down on early voting days and imposed further voter registration restrictions. A similar bill instituting a strict voter ID requirement also passed in Texas. In Georgia, lawmakers have put forward proposals to roll back the number of polling places, hampering access, critics said.

For his part, Goodlatte remains tight-lipped on his thinking around the amendment. No hearing has been scheduled.

“I fully support protecting the voting rights of all Americans,” he said in a prepared email response. “As Congress determines whether additional steps are needed to protect those rights, I will carefully consider legislative proposals addressing the issue.”

A senior House Judiciary Committee aide said negotiations were ongoing but stalled, partly because of the political considerations in play within the Republican caucus — including the fact that much of the new voting legislation seems to deter Democratic-leaning constituencies from going to the polls. The aide, requesting anonymity so as not to upset the talks, said the last time the Voting Rights Act was reauthorized, in 2005, it had the support of President George W. Bush.

“In this particular instance, you don’t have the titular head of the Republican Party pushing in any particular directions, and there are lots of little factions,” the aide said. “With there not being any impetus either way, you end up in limbo, which is where we are.”

Advocacy efforts continue, activists said, with lobbyists descending on Capitol Hill to ask every GOP member of the House to put his or her weight behind scheduling a hearing.

“This is the most important thing in making our democracy work — to keep our elections accessible, fair and free,” said Elisabeth Macnamara, president of the League of Women Voters. “The Voting Rights Act has been the jewel in the crown of accomplishing that for the last half a century, and we need to keep the commitment going to make sure every eligible voter has the opportunity to cast their ballot.”

Just thought I would trow another reason to drink on the fire.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

mlmp08 posted:

Where do you keep hearing this?

Wikileaks leaked an intercepted Taliban communication which said that they grabbed him taking a poo poo before he could wipe his rear end (it actually says this). The hazing bit i think comes from goons conflating bowe's story with that a goon posted in one of the many threads this is talked about in, that a guy at his base was hazed until he wondered out in the desert and they sent tanks and helicopters looking for him.

Raskolnikov38 fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Jun 6, 2014

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Pohl posted:

The Pentagon lies all the loving time. That doesn't discredit the soldiers involved, it discredits the Pentagon.
Ask Jessica Lynch.

I've no idea what this statement has to do with anything at all. And why would anyone bring up Lynch?

quote:

What is your point, exactly?

I was answering a question from a curious person. There's no political bent to my posting about O'Grady. He's just a person that is literally used in training as an example of someone who hosed up, but lived despite his screwups.

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost

KomradeX posted:

I keep hearing that Bergdahl left the base to go take a crap since he was getting hazed like crazy and when he got caught literally with his pants around his ankles. Why does this seem to get glossed over? Like I feel like this is something that should be stressed that this guy couldn't take a crap in peace without his rear end in a top hat squad hazing him. Hell if I'd gone through that I probably would have snapped.

Do you have a link for this?

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.

mlmp08 posted:

I've no idea what this statement has to do with anything at all. And why would anyone bring up Lynch?


I misread something, sorry.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

An interesting look at the Working Families Party by David Sirota. I won't copy/paste because it's a 5 page magazine article, but it'd be nice if something like this could expand beyond making trouble for Cuomo and make trouble across the nation. As ever, avoid reading Politico comments if you don't want to drink more. I'm teetotaler, so I substitute it with acid indigestion.

If the Left Had a Tea Party…Dan Cantor and the making of a liberal uprising.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

BigRed0427 posted:

I didn't see it int he OP, how about the New Voting Rights Act?

I find myself completely unable to believe this.

In 2006, just 8 years ago, the VRA was reauthorized 98-0 in the Senate and 390-33 in the House and Bush signed it in a special ceremony on the South Lawn


...and now it can't even get a single Republican senator to co-sponsor it. Not even one of the exact same loving cowards who voted aye less than a decade ago.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”
I know this got brought up in the OP, but gently caress my state so goddamn much

Choice quote by John Becker (R-Cincinnati) on how hormonal suppository IUDs are bad but progestin pills aren't:

quote:

This is just a personal view. I’m not a medical doctor.

I literally cannot wait to get the gently caress out of this state.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

VitalSigns posted:

I find myself completely unable to believe this.

In 2006, just 8 years ago, the VRA was reauthorized 98-0 in the Senate and 390-33 in the House and Bush signed it in a special ceremony on the South Lawn


...and now it can't even get a single Republican senator to co-sponsor it. Not even one of the exact same loving cowards who voted aye less than a decade ago.
I think the proposal in question is an extension of the VRA that addresses things struck down by the Supreme Court decision, and may in fact be treated as an amendment of its own. Slightly different than just re-authorizing something already in force, though it's still ridiculous.

Dahbadu
Aug 22, 2004

Reddit has helpfully advised me that I look like a "15 year old fortnite boi"
Thanks for the amazing OP. I really appreciate all the stuff you post here, Fried Chicken.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

JT Jag posted:

I think the proposal in question is an extension of the VRA that addresses things struck down by the Supreme Court decision, and may in fact be treated as an amendment of its own. Slightly different than just re-authorizing something already in force, though it's still ridiculous.

Well there were amendments in the 2006 Act also, mainly overturning some court cases that had narrowed the application of the law a bit.

I suspect it has a lot more to do with George Bush and the Supreme Court cases. Bush was trying to appeal to minorities, so voting against it meant bucking the party, and since the GOP establishment was in favor there was no way to kill it in committee. Also, everyone probably assumed that nobody would ever let you get away with blatant disenfranchisement anyway, so voting nay would just make you look like a racist who is trying to slip something by to no benefit.

Then in 2012 the Supreme Court started taking voting rights cases again, and started hinting around that racism is over, and let's not forget that states have rights so maybe today's discrimination is discrimination against the poor little states, and well once the Court starts talking about States' Rights it's like a bigot-signal giving conservatives the green light to discriminate again. Northwest Austin was basically Roberts going "Hey now that racism is over, if voting integrity means bringing back paper bag tests I'm obviously going to have to take your word for it as long nowhere in the law does it actually say that the inevitable disenfranchisement of nonwhites was intentional ;) ;) "

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Dapper Dan
Dec 16, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

Fried Chicken posted:

Reproductive Rights:
Let's just say being a woman is getting kinda rough right now. We are waiting to hear about the ruling on whether insurance must cover birth control. Meanwhile states are moving forward in banning types of birth control, including the safest and most effective ones like IUDs. Abortion access is being rolled back through the use of private harassment, vandalism and occasionally murder and bullshit "health, safety, and cleanliness" regulations conceived and put in place explicitly to shut down abortion clinics. Keeping with the usual "the only moral X is my X" loopholes are being left that allow for paying a several thousand dollar fine to allow individuals to have abortions so when the rich have an unplanned surprise they can take care of it. But the whole point is to strip autonomy from women, which is why you see things like proposed laws that would let relatives of the father object and put a halt on the procedure being performed. And don't forget poorly worded laws that define women as pregnant 2 weeks before they conceive. All this is underpinned by their newest bit of pseudoscience, claiming that science has proven life begins at conception (scientists don't agree to that at all, the closest they come is saying the fetal cycle begins at implantation).

I hadn't heard this before and in my mind I was like, 'who the gently caress in this day and age is going to ban an IUD? They've been around for like sixty years'. I was drinking a beer and found the article: Ohio Considers Banning Birth Control And Abortion Coverage.

And lo-and-behold:

Dumb Motherfucker John Becker posted:

Says the bill should not ban insurance plans from covering the regular birth control pill, but should ban coverage of the intrauterine device, an increasingly popular long-acting form of birth control that is implanted in the uterus and can prevent pregnancy for as long as five to 10 years.

Becker said he believes IUDs are the same as abortion. “This is just a personal view," he said at the hearing, according to The Columbus Dispatch. "I’m not a medical doctor."

Jesus Christ. I don't even know where to begin. The first rational thought that came through my mind was beaning him in the face with my beer bottle on pure instinct. He isn't even pretending that there is some medical/legal reason, no matter how flimsy. He's so dumb and ignorant he can't even conjure up a decent lie. And it isn't like there are ways it couldn't be done! You could wrap it in defending woman since errors in IUD implantation can cause death (rarely, I know. Just giving examples before anyone jumps on me) and some IUDs have been linked to cancer and pharma companies sued. It isn't that goddamn hard.

Somehow we have an official who is openly admitting he's forcing his view on others for no loving reason but 'I'm an idiot that doesn't understand basic scientific concepts, so I'm going to make every single poor woman miserable on my completely baseless beliefs because I have power.' No manipulation of statistics, no hiding the issue, just bare naked forcing morals on people because somebody can. I know there's a lot going on right now with the VA and Bergdahl, but goddamn. The whole thing sums up everything wrong with social conservatives without any of the bullshit. loving hell. I need another goddamn beer.

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