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Ilikedirt posted:imo without some kind of expression of intent by the artist all these kinds of discussions are just people projecting their weird psychological issues or political beliefs onto poo poo especially when its something as low on nuance and artistry as a childrens movie Let me tell you about a little something called "death of the author" 
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Effectronica posted:that doesn't really matter, because scenes in movies like this are usually a collaboration between writer, director, editors, and actors. it's entirely possible that script, direction and editing, and performances collaborated to sexualize the violence and betrayal in a way that, say, woolverton (the writer) didn't intend. what does matter is that we have two people we are told outright desire each other, falling asleep in each other's arms, and then one betrays the other by mutilating them in their sleep. there's hardly a vast gulf between that and it being a symbolic rape. Just being betrayed is not rape. Did Seth Rollins rape Dean Ambrose and Roman Reigns on WWE Monday Night Raw last week?
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Jeffrey posted:If you have consensual sex with someone, and then cut off their arms while they are sleeping, was the sex rape? The answer may surprise you. This. Every act of betrayal is not a rape. If she had been walking through the woods, and this other character who she had no interest in jumped her and cut off her wings, then depending on how it was shot/acted/cut/etc. I could see it being a rape metaphor. But this seems like just an act of betrayal to me, on the same level as say, Brutus taking part in the Ides of March. Brutus did not rape Ceaser, and what he did even had way more phallic symbolism than anything in Malefecent.
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