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Was your innocence taken by Maleficent?
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I don't really remember, but my cornhole sure hurts.
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you irl
Jan 22, 2014
i was rock hard through that scene so yeah i guess it was about rape

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you irl
Jan 22, 2014

Effectronica posted:

people constantly interpret things that they experience, and we live in a culture where people get paid to express those interpretations

thankfully, though, not you

you irl
Jan 22, 2014

Pumpy Muffinz posted:

wait, I didn't actually read the thread. This is a real movie?

is what a real movie? this thread is about a book..

you irl
Jan 22, 2014
i would rather be raped than read one more post in this thread

you irl
Jan 22, 2014
if i had to read effectronica posts or rhonyn peacemaker posts i would choose rhonyn bc his posts are sometimes funny

you irl
Jan 22, 2014
maleficent should have had a rap scene instead

you irl
Jan 22, 2014

Trixie Hardcore posted:

btw lol if you're an adult & you watched a Sleeping Beauty prequel.

i was only there to scope out the audience for hotties

you irl
Jan 22, 2014

Alexzandvar posted:

what I watched the entire movie and noone got sex forced on them?

you and i clearly watched different pg disney fairy tale movies cuz the one i saw was basically a snuff film

you irl
Jan 22, 2014
when i first clicked this thread i thought it would be about the scene where the fairies peer-pressure the prince into making out with the passed-out princess

you irl
Jan 22, 2014
lol if you don't see rape metaphors in every pg movie

you irl
Jan 22, 2014

Trixie Hardcore posted:

Haven't seen the movie because I'm an adult but I must admit that sounds p hot.

nah there's no blood or ripped clothes, rage hole just likes to imagine rape

actually it didn't even happen in a field, im not convinced rage hole wasn't just watching porn

you irl
Jan 22, 2014
basically its an emotional reunion of two childhood lovers, they reconnect in the aftermath of a pg battle between their respective people and then suggestively drift to sleep in one another's arms. the camera then zooms onto a bottle and it is revealed that maleficent was drugged and the guy isn't actually asleep. he makes as if to kill her, but wusses out and can't do it. he then looks at her wings and the camera cuts out. she wakes up wingless and cries before turning evil. he uses the wings, instead of her head which the king requested, to claim to the throne.

since the entire rest of the movie has themes of betrayal and bitterness and the existence of true love its kind of dumb to imagine that one scene is a rape metaphor, rather than a literal betrayal by a lover that sets up the remainder of the movie.

if it is a rape metaphor, why? whats that saying? and what is it doing in a movie that doesnt otherwise reference, explicitly or metaphorically, sexual dynamics or sexual violence or abuse? what is the corresponding meaning when she gets her wings back? how come the rapey nature of the bad guy is never referenced in any other way, whereas the betrayal and his descent into greed and paranoia is a recurring theme?

i guess what im saying is im gay

you irl
Jan 22, 2014
war and peace? more like rape and rape

you irl
Jan 22, 2014

Effectronica posted:

alternatively, it's an unintentional implication, which is why it doesn't fit with the rest of the movie. i guess then it doesn't actually exist or whatever.

"if you squint your eyes and disregard the plot, themes, and everything else about the movie you can totally see the wing scene as a rape metaphor! better make a bunch of terrible posts about it asap"

you irl
Jan 22, 2014

Effectronica posted:

your posts are built on the assumption that things only exist in the dimensions of metaphor or literal, and that there are no implications, only explicit denotations. the thing that's going for you is a) many people here loathe discussing things beyond a superficial level, b) many people here fear being seen as caring about the wrong things, and c) it's a weird thing to find in a kid's/family movie. if, say, you did this for jennifer's body and argued that it isn't treating the fragile nature of teenage friendships metaphorically, well

lol

you irl
Jan 22, 2014

Effectronica posted:

it's pretty funny how much cruft people add on top of "stop thinking about kid's movies" as though they're more convincing when they start widening things to include actual high literature as collateral damage

sounds like something a rapist would say tbh

you irl
Jan 22, 2014

Effectronica posted:

"the author never said this" includes the waste land (eliot only ever wrote what was misdirection), ulysses, remembrance of things past, shakespeare, and in fact 90% of all worthy novels. the author explaining the meaning rarely happens.

hrrrrmmmm yessss hrrrmmmm *puffs pipe*

you irl
Jan 22, 2014

Effectronica posted:

amazingly, your willingness to seriouspost disappears as soon as it isn't just reiterating the events of the film.

scene one: im gay
scene two: faaaaaaart
scene three: *rapes u*

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you irl
Jan 22, 2014

same

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