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I discovered a silver lining to getting disconnected repeatedly over the weekend: many of the standard challenges that require you to sortie a certain number of times seem to count sorties started as opposed to sorties finished.
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The Typhoon is kinda disappointing to be honest. It has a really low-capacity gun and I can't understand what the point of its SP weapons are. They're basically normal missiles, but with slightly greater range and slower speed and can only lock on to aircraft.
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Jun 16, 2014 23:47
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Tequila posted:I discovered a silver lining to getting disconnected repeatedly over the weekend: many of the standard challenges that require you to sortie a certain number of times seem to count sorties started as opposed to sorties finished. 
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Jun 16, 2014 23:49
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Chortles posted:Does that include "10x in 12 hours"? Yeah it does. I'm really starting to question how useful those challenges are, though. They all give research reports, and that doesn't seem to be the bottleneck. So, for example, it's worth it to use a forced sortie on a Moby Dick even if that means you won't have enough fuel to get 10x in 12 hours.
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Jun 16, 2014 23:57
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ninjahedgehog posted:The Typhoon is kinda disappointing to be honest. It has a really low-capacity gun and I can't understand what the point of its SP weapons are. They're basically normal missiles, but with slightly greater range and slower speed and can only lock on to aircraft. Honestly most of the a2a specials seem kind of lovely except for putting extra damage on B-2s or Moby Dick, since their damage doesn't scale with plane rank, and with the limited item slots on most fighters it seems wasteful to buff your specials instead of your plain jane missiles. If it weren't for the free helo kills on Pipeline Destruction, the 4 4AAM kills in the F-16C every day would be pretty frustrating, since you need 2-3 missiles to hit a regular fighter to kill it. Missiles that you can't select targets on and fly slower and home in worse than your regular ones. Only QAAMs and SAAMs seem to be worth a drat. Incidentally if you have people on your team who are flying F-16Cs, you're not, and you shoot down the perfectly lined up helos at the start of Pipeline Destruction, you're a dick. 
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Jun 17, 2014 00:23
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I really like the 6AAM on my F14-ZP-. With the right approach I can murder the poo poo out of anything in the air with them, and I loving love the end of Tokyo when harriers are taking off and I can wreck whole flights of them with one shot. I steal a lot of kills with those things.
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Jun 17, 2014 00:58
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Actually, I think the 4AAM is pretty good, due to the ability to chain fire at a single target, or double at 2 targets. They also have much better range that your standard missiles. Also, dumb firing them into hardened ground targets is fun too.
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Jun 17, 2014 02:28
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AugmentedVision posted:I'm really starting to question how useful those challenges are, though. They all give research reports, and that doesn't seem to be the bottleneck. Research basically works as such: If there is one thing you want researched, and anything else you don't care about, the game will know this and focus entirely on the latter. Research reports are useful because they are the only reliable way to research things you actually want and will use without gimping yourself by continuing to fly when there is literally nothing else to research other than what you want (I am assuming research progress on any given item per sortie does not increase when there is only one item left to research). Getting to First Lieutenant makes it even worse because now upgrades for your special weapons are a thing, so you'll suddenly have six or seven of those sucking away research that could be going to a plane you really like or that one part you need to make what you have unstoppable. And they follow the above logic for determining priority, because of course they do, so you'll be wanting the SAAM or FAEB to upgrade and the game will be pouring all the research into the HPAA you haven't used since the exact instant you bought anything better than the starting F-4E. Pornographic Memory posted:Honestly most of the a2a specials seem kind of lovely except for putting extra damage on B-2s or Moby Dick, since their damage doesn't scale with plane rank, and with the limited item slots on most fighters it seems wasteful to buff your specials instead of your plain jane missiles. Buffing the standard missiles really is the way to go. Save for Moby Dick pursuit missions, there aren't any levels that are purely air-to-air or air-to-ground, so (especially for fighters, unless you're making a dedicated Moby Dick killer) it's worth more to focus on buffing the weapons that can hit anything. That said, I'd like to think each plane's attack damage stats play a role in the power of the SP weapon, and so would get better as you get planes with higher stats. I could be wrong, though! I also assumed the F-16 Desert Rock could one-shot tanks with standard missiles like the Mirage 2000-5 can because it has a higher ground-damage stat, or that the Advanced Hard Points part would give me more bombs to drop like it loving says it does, but I was wrong in both cases. EDIT: Namco, fix your loving netcode already. I've been dropped from 80% of the games I've tried to play today, most of them before I can even get into the game. And also fix whatever bug just made everything on the main menu other than the slowly-rotating image of my last-used plane disappear after the fiftieth time I lost connection before I could even take off. Kadorhal fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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Jun 17, 2014 02:38
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Kadorhal posted:EDIT: Namco, fix your loving netcode already. I've been dropped from 80% of the games I've tried to play today, most of them before I can even get into the game. Well something just happened. A goon room I was hosting disconnected mid-mission and now it keeps failing to make another room.  E: No rooms are up, period. Something got borked. E2: And now rooms are back up again. E3: Annnnnnd connection lost again. Get your poo poo together Namco. iastudent fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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Jun 17, 2014 04:34
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Good matches tonight, guys. Two Moby Dick missions in short proximity, not bad at all. The SP aircraft in each mission were having absolutely none of my poo poo tonight, though. Even the Moby Dick escorts were being dodgier than usual. Stop turning and eat my missiles, goddammit!
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Jun 17, 2014 07:09
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How much longer do I have to unlock the Zipang? I've been away from my ps3 for a while now. Is it till the end of July?
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Jun 17, 2014 07:22
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S-Alpha posted:Good matches tonight, guys. Two Moby Dick missions in short proximity, not bad at all. Says the guy who consistently got MVP. I want your Air Combat emblem. Seriously, I've been playing Ace Combat since the first one and most of you guys make me look like I'm standing still.
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Jun 17, 2014 07:25
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Figured I'd grab that "10 missions in 12 hours" challenge again tonight, so ran the goon room for what ended up being 11 (Moby Dick ) missions. Glad to see I can still put up some non-embarrassing numbers in my level 3 Desert Rock even when playing against some of your T-50s. Lots of S-Ranks, lots of whale hunting, good times had by all.
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Jun 17, 2014 07:27
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Try being the goon on the other team and having to compete with that loving T-50 even in a SU-35
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Jun 17, 2014 07:32
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Cat Hatter posted:Says the guy who consistently got MVP. I want your Air Combat emblem. Seriously, I've been playing Ace Combat since the first one and most of you guys make me look like I'm standing still. You want that Phoenix Emblem? Too bad. It was the major prize in the Mercenary King Tournament. Only the Top 1000 Ranked Players got that. Good stuff as usual guys. Maybe one day we'll be able to make the miracle happen and encounter Moby Dick Pursuit III in a Goon Room. Lord knows if I see it in a room I made, I'd be kicking pubbies left ant right to get as many goons as possible in. And wouldn't you know it, the only time I ever get MVP in the Goon Rooms reliably IS Whale Hunting. If only it was easier to tell when all the fighters are gone so I can safely aim for the Cockpit or Core of Aigaion. At least I can handle the Gyges and Cottos from flying these missions enough times. Still need to figure out my (probably) two Primary planes for the long term. This is what I get for having Infinity be my first Ace Combat. Indecisiveness when it comes to planes.
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Jun 17, 2014 07:41
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Volfogg posted:You want that Phoenix Emblem? Too bad. It was the major prize in the Mercenary King Tournament. Only the Top 1000 Ranked Players got that. Yeah, I was sad when I found that out. Not that it mattered because I didn't start playing until after that tournament had ended. I still think it was an odd decision to make a top prize for a tournament the logo for a 22 year old PS1 game. I have the opposite problem with plane selection though since the earlier games spoil you for plane selection. Now I have to force myself not to open up the whole tech-tree just because I'm used to having the choice of 3 F-15s, 4 SU-27s, and basically every other prototype airframe to be built since the F-4. Edit: 19 years old. The arcade version is 22 years old. Cat Hatter fucked around with this message at 08:16 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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Jun 17, 2014 08:08
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Cat Hatter posted:Says the guy who consistently got MVP. Oh Snapple! posted:Try being the goon on the other team and having to compete with that loving T-50 even in a SU-35 Sorry, but like that one strangely angry guy who sent me all those ragemaile said, I'm a "stupid p2w human being"  I'm probably gonna sit this next mini-tournament out, I'm hoarding stocked fuel and just playing with supplied for the most part. Hopefully I'll have saved up enough fuel from all the daily events to be able to burn it all on the next tournament with a reward I really want. Speaking of, though, I really hope Bamco has plans to expand the aircraft tree at some point in the future, it'd kind of suck if this is all we'll have from now until the end of the game's lifespan.
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Jun 17, 2014 08:19
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I'm sure they'll at some point make at least a Block-2 Morgan and that NPC plane from the campaign. Probably also include other series favorites like the Su-37, Su-47, and F-15 MTD. I do admit that I really like that this game doesn't let people directly pay real money to buy things in the game. Even if you buy a bunch of fuel and contracts you'll still need to play the game to get anything out of them. That way when S-Alpha is owning my poo poo I know that its because he's a better pilot and not because he opened up his wallet. Even the fuel system isn't unreasonable. This is the first free-to-play game I've ever really played but it doesn't seem to have any of the stuff that makes me not like FTP.
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Jun 17, 2014 08:30
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I just want them to put in the MiG 1.44 and a Razgriz emblem/skin. I'll be perfectly happy with the game then.
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Jun 17, 2014 08:42
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Cat Hatter posted:I'm sure they'll at some point make at least a Block-2 Morgan and that NPC plane from the campaign. Probably also include other series favorites like the Su-37, Su-47, and F-15 MTD. Some of the Joint Assault planes look cool as well. And I agree with you. I get enough stock fuel drops on weekdays just playing with the supplied fuel that I can put in quite a bit more during the weekends.
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Jun 17, 2014 08:48
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Holy crap, I was one of the worst players in our goon room earlier and I'm currently ranked 981 in that tournament that just started. I really need to play with you guys more often.
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Jun 17, 2014 09:04
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I wish my evenings were more open this week because I love playing with you guys. Pubbie rooms are alright because I can reliably MVP but I'd rather be last place with you Demons of Razgoons than first place in a public room. Could have S ranked Moby Dick today but, of course, cockpit goes down with one fighter in the air and one minute on the clock. 
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Jun 17, 2014 13:51
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Levantine posted:I wish my evenings were more open this week because I love playing with you guys. Pubbie rooms are alright because I can reliably MVP but I'd rather be last place with you Demons of Razgoons than first place in a public room. Could have S ranked Moby Dick today but, of course, cockpit goes down with one fighter in the air and one minute on the clock. My last game last night saw the cockpit go down with a little over two minutes left. It ended in a B rank.
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Jun 17, 2014 16:23
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Cat Hatter posted:I'm sure they'll at some point make at least a Block-2 Morgan and that NPC plane from the campaign. Probably also include other series favorites like the Su-37, Su-47, and F-15 MTD. If they add the Su-47 I'd probably pay real money for it. Those forward-swept wings 
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Jun 17, 2014 16:49
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ninjahedgehog posted:If they add the Su-47 I'd probably pay real money for it. Those forward-swept wings I feel the same way, but about the YF-23. I love everything about that design, enough to make me drop my superior Russian T-50 for it.
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Jun 17, 2014 17:05
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Ranked up to 400ish today in the ranking tournament. Unfortunately I'm on a vacation so I'll have to bow out for the rest of it!
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Jun 17, 2014 18:05
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Did I misread or is the prize for the tournament going to the top 100,000 people? I wonder if it's even possible to miss out as long as you sortie a single time.
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Jun 17, 2014 18:12
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If I recall, the Skin only goes to the Top 10,000 Players. The more limited prizes are the Nicknames, with the major prize being the God of Destruction Nickname to the top 1000. At least, I think that was the Top 1k Exclusive Nickname.
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Jun 17, 2014 21:39
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No special emblem, so probably will not burn that much fuel. Just want that skin. Also, I got 30K score using the Mirage (for the challenge) in a match with high tier planes. That was rather weird.
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Jun 18, 2014 03:53
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Netcode's being finicky again it looks like.
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Jun 18, 2014 04:21
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Either the game just really hosed up, or I met a cheater. I played a game at Dubai, and when we were selecting our planes, the preview for everyone else's planes showed no custom parts, emblem, or even nicknames. This apparently wasn't just a glitch with icons or anything, either, because I was dealing reduced damage, had less ammo, and was missing more often than normal - we actually had none of our equipped parts working. On top of a good half of the players dropping across the game, we got our asses completely handed to us. Host scored nearly 50k, I barely broke 20. EDIT: Still made enough credits from that that I could afford the F-15E. And, after fighting the game for an hour to let me play again, I did just as well with it as I would have with the standard. These 4AAMs could be so much better, though, they barely track targets or deal damage any better than the standard missiles. Kadorhal fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Jun 18, 2014 |
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Jun 18, 2014 04:48
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8 or so of us on the IRC just spent half an hour trying to start a room. Every minute or so someone else would drop. Finally managed to start the room with a few pubbies in, already a few people dropped. The game is dying, yeah.
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Jun 18, 2014 04:50
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I played this morning with no issues so I wonder if they are seeing a primetime crush of players during the tournament. I'm hoping to get some real time in with the game tonight or tomorrow to secure a top 10k spot since all I fly is the A-10. I had a real chance to use it against a Gyges and Kottos in the Aerospace mission this morning and when you save up all your FAEB's and drop them on one of those, they go down quick. Easiest MVP of my life.
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Jun 18, 2014 13:40
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I was playing last night before I went to bed and as soon as a Moby Dick mission was happening, The netcode barfed and all rooms were lost in space and time.  At least I could take out my rage by MVPing Tokyo with my Desert Rock twice in a row, focusing on anti-air the second time around. Then I got my first S rank ever in Dubai flying my beloved MiG-29A. So yeah, happy ending, at least. I don't get much time to play, but I'm zargon45 if anyone cares.
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Jun 18, 2014 14:05
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From about 3:00 A.M. until about 6:00 A.M. CST, I find I'm better off playing something else instead of spending a whole bunch of time getting frustrated about not being able to connect, and then getting promptly disconnected if a match does decide to start. I imagine with the new tourney running, it's probably somehow even worse. If I wait until normal people in the U.S. are awake, though, I usually don't have an issue throughout the day. Also, I've got the Zipang to level 2 or 3 and it's already sick-nasty fast. I can't wait to fly something even faster 
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Jun 18, 2014 16:44
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Kadorhal posted:EDIT: Still made enough credits from that that I could afford the F-15E. And, after fighting the game for an hour to let me play again, I did just as well with it as I would have with the standard. These 4AAMs could be so much better, though, they barely track targets or deal damage any better than the standard missiles. The real use of 4AAMs is against slow-moving, high-score targets that you need to Also, dumbfiring them against ships or the Scinfaxi is pretty fun too. Or murdering those poor Harriers in Tokyo.
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Jun 18, 2014 17:45
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Yeah, 4AAMs are pretty awesome, I've finally decided to switch back to them from sniping with HVAAs. They're pretty great at everything, and a quick fire and forget into a crowd can turn up some cool surprises. And if you're close enough to the spawn point at the start of the helicopter emergency mission, you're pretty much guaranteed to get MVP with the 8-12 targets you just shot down.
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Jun 18, 2014 17:55
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Been having a whole bunch of good runs in a room where I'm the best. 40-50k+ a round, got the 300 rescue elite mercenary contract with 2 hours to spare, and every dang red crate is just dropping a stocked fuel so I still have 24. Currently at 9k in the tourney, wanna get a bit more lead before calling it a night. Don't care about the titles, but gotta try to nab the skin. Anyone know the exact time the thing ends? E; luck over, got a moby but failed because noone WENT for the cockpit shot in the 25 seconds it was up. Reverse pubbiescrewed. Gamwhiz1 fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Jun 19, 2014 |
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Jun 19, 2014 09:06
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I know it's mid afternoon but I have most of it free so I'm going to start a room in about a half hour and gun for tournament points. If any of you are on, I'll invite and hopefully we can make some real progress.
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E; wrong thread :V Since I already posted though, what've you all gotten from red crates? seems they edited the drop tables a bit, I've started getting aircraft research reports and packs of 3 (!!!) stocked fuel. Ones I've run across are: -1200 creds -2k something creds -10k creds -Limited-time skins for a couple aircraft -The Zipang -Aircraft research report -1 stocked fuel -3 stocked fuel Addendums: 5k and 600 (cheapskates) also appear to be possible. Gamwhiz1 fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Jun 20, 2014 |
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