zoux posted:Lol they had that POO explanation ready to go 
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May 22, 2019 05:11
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Goddamn they moved the previous question on his rear end That whole thing fuckin owned, y’all should go back and watch it when they post it tomorrow zoux fucked around with this message at 05:25 on May 22, 2019 |
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May 22, 2019 05:17
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zoux posted:Goddamn they moved the previous question on his rear end That was a work of art. Probably worth watching the whole fight more than once.
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May 22, 2019 05:34
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that was too inside-baseball for me
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May 22, 2019 06:07
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Anyone see geren body block sticky
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May 22, 2019 06:34
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zoux posted:Goddamn they moved the previous question on his rear end wait really owned
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May 22, 2019 06:56
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https://twitter.com/PhilPrazan/status/1131048671091408896
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May 22, 2019 15:46
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As a total idiot rube who decides he would rather do something else every time I try to understand the absurdity of the legislative process, what exactly happens when you say stick man point of ordered a bill to kill it?
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May 22, 2019 15:50
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It means it violated the House rules in some way. YOu raise a point of order against further consideration of this bill based on the fact that it violates section whatever of the House rules, and the parliamentarians rule on it. This one in particular was a rule that bill analyses have to accurately reflect the content of the bill. I'm not sure what the exact problem was with this one but: it's the same one they used to kill the Chick Fil A bill. In that one the BA said that the bill didn't create any rulemaking authority when it did. It's ticky-tack bullshit but it's also the only way single members or minority factions can outright kill legislation. If this was two weeks ago, they could've sent the bill back to committee, corrected the BA and had it back on the floor in a couple of days but under a deadline like last night that's not an option. Sticky tried to POO the amendment form of SB 10 they put on SB 11 last night on germaneness (unlike Congress amendments to the bill have to actually apply to the bill) but they had a typed and cited refutation ready to go within five minutes so they were ready for that one. Parliamentarians have pretty wide latitude to rule on this stuff so there's a fudge factor that depends on what leadership wants, but not always. Years ago, when they were trying session after session to oust Craddick as speaker, when they were finally about to do it, he wouldn't recognize anyone to call the question to vacate the chair. Eventually the parliamentarian said, look this motion is in order I cannot rule against it, so he fired her.
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May 22, 2019 15:59
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So a douchebag tried to rules lawyer and got owned, sweet.
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May 22, 2019 16:32
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They call points of order all the loving time, D's probably use it way more than Rs because they're in the minority. Trey Martinez-Fisher is (in)famous for killing poo poo on technicalities.
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May 22, 2019 16:40
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Thy said, Strickland is a douchebag. I assume his district loves him for it, right?
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May 22, 2019 16:49
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Shifty Pony posted:Thy said, Strickland is a douchebag. He can't be popular in the local county party apparatus but I doubt his reelection is in jeopardy
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May 22, 2019 16:59
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I often wonder that myself but I think it's the same poo poo that a lot of people voted for Trump over: gently caress government. And then just a lot of people who are gonna pull the R lever no matter what. He's not here to pass bills, he's here to be a nuisance and the Empower Texans set loves it, you should've seen them whining on Twitter last night. Also he's appealing to a specific crackpot constituency. In this specific instance, they believe that mental health is an illuminati conspiracy and actually the number one cause of school shootings is anti-depressants, so they love Stickland for his antics. But no he doesn't accomplish anything for his district, he's so despised he couldn't start doing stuff if he wanted to. He actually endangers the people that live in his district. From the 2017 budget debate: quote:Stickland had filed an amendment to defund a state program for the abatement of feral hogs, which he’s become known for championing at the Legislature each session. Stickland railed predictably against the program, calling it “ridiculous” and a waste of money. He's so despised that there were 100 votes to cut off state road funding for his hometown just to spite him. https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/1131046806589181952 e: oh hey good deal https://twitter.com/RepJayapal/status/1131225783962394626 zoux fucked around with this message at 17:04 on May 22, 2019 |
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May 22, 2019 17:00
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What is Stickland's end goal for doing all this? Get nothing passed?
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May 22, 2019 17:13
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He gets that sweet conservative oil money to do all this stuff
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May 22, 2019 17:15
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:What is Stickland's end goal for doing all this? Get nothing passed? Fox News or somehow a Federal appointment
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May 22, 2019 17:21
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:What is Stickland's end goal for doing all this? Get nothing passed? Name in the paper, hand jobs from Tim Dunn, some people are just dickheads who like being assholes for assholes sake, probably all of that. Most people are just as baffled as you are. Of course, we're at the point now where he hates them just as much as they hate him. A few years ago the loving House admin chair tied a cookie to a string and tried to use it to "lure" Sticky away from the back mic. So simple spite could be behind it all. It's certainly motivating the Speaker, you could tell he was relishing cramming his gavel down Stickland's throat last night. Bonnen's an old school institutionalist, he'd preside more than Strauss, so Sticky (and the rest of the HFC) basically making the House dysfunctional by ignoring long standing traditions and handshake agreements really pisses him off. Also there's a famous Buckley (?) quote about conservatives standing athwart the progress of history and shouting NO, so yeah, he's here to get nothing passed. e: in fact if you'd like to see Sticky's Revenge, they're doing a local calendar this morning, and any member can kill any bill on it by talking for five minutes. I'd wager he's going to massacre a shitload of legislation, which is going to make the Senate kill a shitload of House bills on their local calendar today, so there's gonna be a lot of Stickland bashing today. zoux fucked around with this message at 17:27 on May 22, 2019 |
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May 22, 2019 17:22
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zoux posted:e: oh hey good deal I figured he would have been in favor of a single payer system twenty years ago, though I guess I formed my opinion of doggett by my dad telling me he was a communist in the 90s
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May 22, 2019 17:24
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zoux posted:
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May 22, 2019 17:57
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https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/1131249187939606531 Oooh timely https://twitter.com/lmcgaughy/status/1131253637341220864 zoux fucked around with this message at 18:44 on May 22, 2019 |
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May 22, 2019 18:23
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i say swears online posted:I figured he would have been in favor of a single payer system twenty years ago, though I guess I formed my opinion of doggett by my dad telling me he was a communist in the 90s ran into him once when he was out campaigning when i lived in his district. my impression is that he was always popular because of his focus on constituent service.
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May 22, 2019 19:28
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Stickland called another point of order on SB 11. Here we go again
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May 22, 2019 19:55
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And again, overruled. And again another PoO. See, if he was a normal legislator, he'd be disincentivized from this kind of behavior because other members would kill his own bills. But since he doesn't carry legislation....
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May 22, 2019 20:09
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TropicalCoke posted:Stickland called another point of order on SB 11. Here we go again This was inevitable. And it's been overruled, on the same reason as yesterday.
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May 22, 2019 20:10
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zoux posted:And again, overruled. Can't have retribution against your legislation if you don't legislate [img-guy-pointing-to-his-temple]
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May 22, 2019 20:13
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It's a hell of a way to try and run a democracy. #2 overruled, he's not at the back mic anymore so he's either cookin up some bullshit or he's all out of ideas. zoux fucked around with this message at 20:18 on May 22, 2019 |
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May 22, 2019 20:13
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Next lege they probably need to come up with some form of a Stickland-blocker bill that just nukes all funding to his district. Threatening to do that seems to be the only way to make him back off from his grandstanding.
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May 22, 2019 20:22
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He was the only GOP rep returned to the Lege with less than 50% of the vote so it may not be necessary. Here's what bugs me about the House, Oliverson and Miss T obviously want this bill to pass, but they're up here asking questions on it which only gives opponents more time to come up with something. Just let it pass, no one gives a poo poo about these "helper" back mic questions, they don't show up in stories, no one cares. Anyway, it's passed, gently caress off Stickland. 135-7-3 In the end, there were not enough sticky poos to stop the bill. zoux fucked around with this message at 20:30 on May 22, 2019 |
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May 22, 2019 20:25
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zoux posted:I often wonder that myself but I think it's the same poo poo that a lot of people voted for Trump over: gently caress government. And then just a lot of people who are gonna pull the R lever no matter what. He's not here to pass bills, he's here to be a nuisance and the Empower Texans set loves it, you should've seen them whining on Twitter last night. Also he's appealing to a specific crackpot constituency. In this specific instance, they believe that mental health is an illuminati conspiracy and actually the number one cause of school shootings is anti-depressants, so they love Stickland for his antics. Having worked on these bills all session...if y'all don't follow, "parental rights" and "parental consent" has been the strategy scientologists (Citizens Commission on Human Rights) and "concerned mom" groups have been using all session. They will throw it out there, and fearmongering around medication, regardless of what is in the bill and try to scare everyone, but if a legislator goes out of their way to include parental protections or not talk about medication, it's still never enough. Because they don't actually argue in good faith - they just don't believe mental health issues are real. Rep. Stickland is just leaning into that. And the "90% of school shooters were on anti-depressants" stuff gets said all the time by the scientologists and their allies, to the point where I think more people are starting to think it's real. They managed to briefly get an amendment onto SB 1390, the suicide prevention in schools bill, that would have required teachers to teach children in the health classes that psych meds cause suicide and violent behavior. It was removed in the House, and the scientologists were furious. I get stalling or killing bills through points of order on ideology across parties, but when it's literally just one guy versus everyone else in the government and stakeholders, and his reasoning is based on "gently caress government" and nothing...argh.
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May 22, 2019 20:35
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Lol I just checked to see which Senator put that amendment on there and of course it's Bob "EMP" Hall
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May 22, 2019 20:38
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zoux posted:Lol I just checked to see which Senator put that amendment on there and of course it's Bob "EMP" Hall Yep! That made it a lot easier for it to leave the bill ASAP on the House side.
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May 22, 2019 20:40
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https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1131341732535308289 Yeah well gently caress you The Onion
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May 23, 2019 01:17
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1131341732535308289 This satire brought to you by the people who put Joe Biden in the lead for the nomination
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May 23, 2019 01:25
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Badger of Basra posted:This satire brought to you by the people who put Joe Biden in the lead for the nomination At least there's some introspection happening as a result of that. https://boingboing.net/2019/05/17/onion-editor-regrets-portrayin.html
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May 23, 2019 02:07
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https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/1131647064872562688 Deal on 1, 2 and 3 reached, despite all the wishcasting for a special session on twitter this week.
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May 23, 2019 20:48
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How's that math going to add up?
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May 23, 2019 20:51
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Dunno they're still jacking each other off on their accomplishments https://twitter.com/AliyyaSwaby/status/1131647405047386113 https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1131650576306049031 Patriots win again! zoux fucked around with this message at 20:58 on May 23, 2019 |
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May 23, 2019 20:55
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"Bonnen, asked by a reporter after his remarks about how the two chambers had handled differences on the teacher pay issue, said he was going to “shut it all down right now” before diving into a football reference." We solved it, but won't tell you how. Why do I get the feeling this deal is on considerably more tenuous footing than the little Mission Accomplished press conference makes it out to be?
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May 23, 2019 22:15
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This is so weird. Are they gonna let people read the bill before they vote on it?
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May 23, 2019 22:19
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