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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

That's the question I guess. We've all seen how Abbott talks when he's manufacturing a crisis out of thin air. In fact, if you listen to his presser on the prop tax bill from last week, you can see both modes, the way he talks when he talks about the property tax emergency and the way he talks when he's talking about the voter list. Big difference. There are also 3 pending lawsuits against TX over this list so that'll figure into his decision.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

TropicalCoke posted:

Greg Abbott has declared so far these as emergency matters:

Teacher pay
School finance
School safety
Disaster relief
Property tax reform

Hes calling for two anti gang centers in Tyler and Waco. Declaring war on bikers

It's nice that he called out the white supremacist gang in Dallas rather than going all in on transnational gangs

https://twitter.com/lmcgaughy/status/1092845438204592130
:hmmyes:

Anyway those five are the only emergency issues, talked about some other issues but most importantly no voter fraud stuff

Only the property tax issue is categorically bad, so it's a win? Nothing on abortion or immigration or The Wall or whatever. Last session sanctuary cities were an emergency issue.


Dem response here: https://house.texas.gov/video-audio/

Lol they were fully prepared to go off on Voter Fraud so now they're like, uh we guess that we're disappointed he didn't say the SoS list was bad. He's "passively endorsing a voter roll purge"

zoux fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Feb 5, 2019

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Badger of Basra posted:

High property taxes in Texas are driven by (at least) three factors:

1) taxing increasing the tax rate; this is already capped so that entities can not raise the rate to generate more than 8% more revenue than they did last year without voter approval

2) increase in property value - so if your house was worth $100k last year and $200k this year you’re going to pay a lot more in property taxes even if the rate stays the same. This is a really big problem in the cities

3) school taxes. The large majority of any property tax bill in Texas is school property tax.
Over the past decade the state has been providing less and less state money for public schools, so the school districts have had to raise more and more money from property taxes. So the higher property tax bills from this factor are rally caused by the state abdicating its responsibility to fund education

A 2.5% cap combined with flat funding would make it much harder to fund even the same operations as last year, not taking into account any attempt to expand services.

How dare you pre-wonk me.

"Much harder" doesn't really get at it, if you listen to the cities. DMN had an article yesterday from city officials doing the YOU CAN'T PASS THIS CAP, YOU WILL REGRET THIS basically. They said a cap of 2.5% would've reduced the city budget by $55m compared to today.

Basically, it allows state lawmakers, who continue to cut the state share of funding to things like education, to say "we passed property tax relief" while blaming the cities for loving their constituents when they can't deliver on basic services. That makes county and city officials real mad. If you want to see local Republicans yell at state Republicans I think the Senate is having a hearing on the prop. tax bill this week.

zoux fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Feb 5, 2019

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Oh that bubble exists only between the speaker, gov and lt. gov. It's already DOA in both chambers as far as I'm concerned. They couldn't get agreement between a 4 and 6 percent cap last session plus the special. Now there's more dems in the House and a one-vote margin* in the senate and that one vote already voted against a 4% cap and leadership already torched all the leverage they had over him. I literally have no idea how they get this done. There's a reason the Lege only deals with school finance when they have a court-ordered gun to their heads

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Friend posted:

So the state said "you can't have all this money for your schools anymore," so the cities raise the property tax rate to make up for it, but now the state is saying "you can't have our money but you also can't get more money from taxes"

Your property tax bill is made up of local school property taxes, set by the ISD, city and county taxes, set by the Council and Commissioner's court, and then probably a few hospital or utility districts. City taxes are usually around 20% of the bill, school property taxes are between 50-60% of that depending on where you live. So all those entities have to raise taxes every year because we have a huge influx of population combined with less available state funds every biennium, to pay for critical services like police, fire, not to mention education. They can only raise them 8% before voters can petition to call a rollback election (7% of registered voters in the jurisdiction have to sign on) to ratify or reject this rate. So mostly entities don't raise taxes more than that, because people are dumbfucks who are unwilling to pay for services. This is already happening, but assuming they set the rollback rate lower, then locals will make up the difference in appraisal growth, overvaluing properties to increase revenue.

The proposal they've filed would set the rollback rate at 2.5 % and make the rollback election automatic and on the uniform election date in November, basically ensuring that higher rates won't be ratified.

The root of the problem is that property taxes are a horrible tax base because they are horribly regressive, essentially a wealth tax on peoples' largest asset, their homes, and other services are paid for on the back of another regressive tax, sales and use. What we need is a progressive income tax but the constitution requires a ratification for THAT and if people aren't going to vote for property tax rate hikes above 2.5% they sure as poo poo ain't voting to create an income tax.

The last time they did this, in 2006 I think, was because there was a 1.5% cap on local school property taxes, and almost every district was at that cap, so somebody sued. The state constitution prohibits a statewide property tax, and since everyone was effectively paying the same rate, the plaintiffs argued that it was a de facto statewide tax, and they won. So the lege's solution was to spend a bunch of money to buy down property taxes by a third, essentially sending money to districts to hold them harmless for the cut, and then replace that revenue with the franchise/margins tax. Well, the franchise tax brought in way less than expected, and every district was back up to the cap within a couple of years (i'm not exactly sure why this isn't unconstitutional, I think there's a local enrichment tier of a few cents that you can go above the cap if you get the voters approval, which I guess is enough discretion?). I think the average savings on people's tax bills was like $200. Today, we're back in the same situation, except we don't have a court order, and now they are also trying to phase out the franchise tax without a new revenue stream. All revenue problems are supposed to be offset by "economic growth" of course.

My opinion, which isn't worth a lot because I'm just some rando, is that there isn't really a good solution to school finance in Texas because we're competing between two mutually exclusive constitutional requirements: one that the state provide an "equitable and adequate" education to every student and the prohibition against a statewide property tax. Robin Hood was supposed to fix this when they passed it in '93, but now like 60 districts are in recapture and richer cities (Austin ISD sends the most money to the state under recapture, incidentally) are salty about remitting millions in local tax revenue they could use to provide expensive educations to their consituents to the state for redistribution to poor districts.

zoux fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Feb 5, 2019

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/madlinbmek/status/1092979014103457792

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1093155580334747648

e: THIS poo poo again
https://twitter.com/JesseRodriguez/status/1093175150734987264

zoux fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Feb 6, 2019

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Aggies aren't taking Abbott's SotS proposal to bring back the UT/A&M game
https://texags.com/forums/5/topics/3019182

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Also if you want to read an article in the Breitbart/Gateway Pundit voice but about recruiting class rankings

https://gigemgazette.com/2019/02/04/recruiting-bias-texas-ridiculous/

Do other states have equivalents to Aggie jokes

zoux
Apr 28, 2006



Starting to think communism might not win

quote:

The demands read: “1. that you make a public acknowledgment and apology for the fact that you [Enoch] worked with a federal informant, 2. we also demand that you have members of PSL leave this protest, 3. we also demand that you put away all WWP propaganda or it will be taken from you.”

A Chicano militant could be heard saying, “Will you meet these demands? If you do not meet these demands, we will have to ask you to leave.”

“How exactly would you do that?” Enoch said. “Eat my rear end, that’s my demand.”

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

You mean t-sip? They just think that's a good own it's supposed to mean while they were off fighting wars UT people were sitting at home sipping tea. They also only ever call it t.u. instead of UT. These are not bright people.

Here's a whole loving wikipedia page about A&M slang, all of which I know because the mall sold T-shirts with all this poo poo on it.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1093382796305936385

Lol way to go collective numbnuts. Hmm is this El Chapo or basically-a-Republican Congressman



To be fair that could be loving Bigfoot and you couldn't tell.

Speaking of morons
https://twitter.com/KHOU/status/1093363785912537088

zoux fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Feb 7, 2019

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Reminder that David Whitley, the bumbling nominee for Texas Secretary of State, is in front of Senate Nominations today which is 4-3 R/D split oh and one of the R's is Seliger. Also he needs 2/3s in the Senate anyway to get approved so the man is doomed. Kirk Watson is on this committee and I remember watching him meticulously take apart young-earth creationist and national embarrassment Don McElroy during his confirmation hearing for chair of the SBOE years and years ago (he did not get confirmed). Should be fun.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Badger of Basra posted:

Is the 2/3 requirement in the constitution, or is it a rule the Senate could change like the threshold for bringing up bills?

Article 4 section 12 baybee

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Badger of Basra posted:

What time is Whitley’s hearing?

It was at 9, it's over now.

zoux fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Feb 7, 2019

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Not particularly. Dude was extremely cautious. Seliger seems skeptical so he may not get out of committee.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Does it help cops? Yes. Thus...

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Lightning Knight posted:

I’m going to the San Antonio DSA meeting tonight. If any of y’all are also going, feel free to PM me or whatever. :)

TROT

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Comrayn posted:

My wife had the local news on while getting ready this morning and they mentioned the latest development in this (one of the cops "relieved of duty" aka on paid leave). What pissed me off is how they referred to it as "the deadly shooting incident in which five HPD officers were injured" because the injured cops are the tragedy here. No need to mention they got injured after they busted into an innocent man's house unannounced and blew away his dog, killing him and his wife for their trouble.

Excuse me sir, there was weed in the house.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1093974027524325383

That's gonna be a big ole jackoff session, though I don't know if Abbott has the kind of paraplegia where your dick don't work (hopefully he does)

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

TropicalCoke posted:

One of sen whitmires interns is on the potential non citizens list from the SoS. Whitley is done lmao. Fall on the sword for daddy abbott

Oh he might not even get out of committee. Seliger and Kolkhorst were both pretty cool on him.

Also, the Gov's office has reason to be mad at him for loving this whole scheme up.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/JohnCornyn/status/1094962479535403010

This is carefully parsed

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Y'all remember how we were talking the other day about how It Didn't Used To Be Like THis

https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/1093055382019325953

https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/1095001144605241346

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/JohnnieMo/status/1095005890497806336

"Finch the Mall"

Also lol at all these Austin based reporters having to schlepp it out to El Paso because President Tweets decided he was mad that people said he was wrong about crime in the city being fixed by a wall

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I just said why they picked El Paso, it's one of the safest cities in the US despite being across the river from one of the least safe cities in North America, and in his SotU Trump said it was because of walls. Everyone who knows what they are talking about, left and right, said "no that's not why" so he got all salted up and decided he was going campaign-rally his way to this being true.

And he's going to get protested to gently caress because that's a city that went like 65% for HRC in 16.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Look, morality of it aside, we know how to interdict border crossings. The degree to which we do it is a matter of policy but as far as the mechanisms of stopping crossings, we know what works and what doesn't. Cornyn knows what works and what doesn't, he knows the wall is ineffective in that regard. But you can't say that because President Baby has the support of 85% of the GOP and he'll start calling him Jerpin' John or something and own him right out of office. You'd have to have political courage to do it and well

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/JeremySWallace/status/1095044808593281024

Trump's venue has a cap of 7k people, Beto's rally will be open air and it's supposed to be real nice out there tonight. 3 or 4 times bigger than the Trump rally isn't out of the question (also what if Beto announces for prez tonight >_> )

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

*extremely Faith No More voice*

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1095065077655449601

lmao
https://twitter.com/steveholland1/status/1095066783390801929
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1095062394689257473

zoux fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Feb 11, 2019

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Also those numbers would change drastically if an actual Beto-Cornyn race got kicked off. You'd see better approval rates for Cornyn in that case, imo.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Badger of Basra posted:

https://twitter.com/brandonformby/status/1095085638964133890?s=21

This reminds me of last session when they tried to ban payroll union contributions but had a carveout for police unions :jerkbag:

Honestly this makes it harder to pass imo because now those small entities who might have been sitting out this round are back in the mix. The carve out was specifically intended to blunt rural pushback, but that’s back on the table now.
E: the opt in provision I mean, you’re correct about the first responder carve out


Also Badge you’ll be happy to know someone filed a bill to replace all references to marihuana in the code with cannabis

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Probably because the GOP electorate in those counties were mad they weren’t getting fake tax relief

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/ericbradner/status/1095112688580132864

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1095170666612035587

Here's ol Dan saying a bunch of stuff he knows to be untrue.

Also AP is reporting that all 55 miles of "bollard barrier" in the border sec. deal is in the RGV.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/AlexGonzTXCA/status/1095375438161932288

Who wants to go up to the capitol with me to stuff this weiner in a locker

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/toddgillman/status/1095373330062938117

lol. El Paso County officials estimated 7-10k but it coulda been a million and he'd still have said no one showed up.

https://twitter.com/zachdespart/status/1095391463775588353

oof

zoux fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Feb 12, 2019

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/chucklindell/status/1095423453782597636

Friends, I'm fer it.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Here look:
https://capitol.texas.gov/BillLookup/BillNumber.aspx
Look up any bill

SB 476


No need to guess at what a bill does. "May" means permissive, it's up to the discretion of the restaurant owner. Shall and may, key words to look for in any bill.

Also if you want to be engaged politically you have to teach yourself how to read legislation. This one is pretty straight forward. I dunno how it is at the city level or in other states, but underlined words are additions to the code, non-underlined words are already there, and struck-out words are, well, guess.

zoux fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Feb 12, 2019

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Lightning Knight posted:

That’s fine then.

Lol if you think I or any other normal person has time to actually read the bills these fuckers propose, besides it’s from a Republican, I assumed the worst.

This ain’t it chief

You got time to attend DSA meetings of 20 people you got time to stay informed about legislation

zoux fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Feb 13, 2019

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Goddamn it Wendy

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Lege council also develops bill analyses for every bill referred to committee. They take a couple of days to show up but they are more of a plain language summary of the bill text

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Badger of Basra posted:

Doesn't TLC also write the actual bills? Like Rep. Dumbshit from Exurbia, TX calls them up and says "I want a bill that bans gay orgies in public schools" and they find the relevant part of the law where that would be put in and write a bill that references appropriate sections etc.

Yeah. They work a little closer with staff and members than that but they employ like a million lawyers.


Badger of Basra posted:

I wonder if you could get the actual text of the request they received. Would those be public records?

Dunno

Also re: Wendy Davis
https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/930173084199464960

God I hope this movie never gets made

TropicalCoke posted:

Is it every bill? I thought it was bills that get out of committee and back onto the floor. But I'm new to this process. Seriously. The people who actually draft the bills for legislative teams are the only people in the Capitol that do work outside the custodians and handymen.

E: yeah badger that's exactly how it works.

I dunno if it's every bill that gets referred but they definitely have BAs ready to go in committee. SB 10 passed out of Senate HHS today and I just looked and it's got one.

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