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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Honestly I think he's gunning for VP, I know Castro's in the race but if we're going to be operating under the "veep slot is to help in that person's state" paradigm, then Beto fulfills those national Dem purple Texas dreams better than Julian.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

RisqueBarber posted:

Beto is too centrist for America

Wrong!
https://twitter.com/scottbraddock/status/1106261713089978368

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Are those even actual people texting, seems botty. At the very least its off a script

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Is this the highest court in the land or a danged pyramid scheme????

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Were I a racist Kiwi Islamophobe, I would simply sue muslims for being foreign, in the courts.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/emmaplatoff/status/1106621246232510475

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I’ve seen that grift before, opening a charter school in a building you own . Charter schools are very bad

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

1stGear posted:

Gohmert's a media hog.

Yeah he makes Sheila Jackson Lee look circumspect

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/JTHVerhovek/status/1107597520836931584

!!

When he refused to release these nos. over the weekend all the wise pundits were like "his fundraising must be disastrous"

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Doom Rooster posted:

They're not releasing average donation size, which means it's probably pretty damning.

- people saying that him not releasing fundraising totals over the weekend means it's probably pretty damning.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

There is no world in which it is a bad idea to release your record-breaking fundraising total.

Also kind of the whole story of the Beto Texas Senate campaign was small donor fundraising, I know we're all skeptical of him but he excites normal people. His Iowa tour has been SRO so far.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Doom Rooster posted:

It's entirely possible that he still did get tons of small donations, and people are excited. This world however is a a world where it is a bad idea to release a record-breaking fundraising total, if that total comes from an average donation size close to the $2,700 max. It instantly kills the narrative of excited normal people.

Again, I don't think normal people care about that, or at least as much as extremely online people care about it. I think more people are satisfied by his promise not to take PAC/special interest money.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

VitalSigns posted:

So he's keeping those record-breaking small-donor numbers secret because...

Whatever confirms your priors man.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/XPerezNY/status/1107665298080129024

Assuming he's counting that toward the total: lol

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

My TL isn't currently loaded with leftists quote tweeting that saying "lol" so it might not be that cut and dry OR they might just still be asleep.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

FBS posted:

The data in the FEC page in that screenshot is from 2017-2018, I haven't seen a source for the "party sent the money back to him when he announced" part

https://twitter.com/libbycwatson/status/1107676881346805760

Gotta be a careful steward of one's lols.

saintonan posted:

No, some idiot in New York City doesn't understand how FEC reports work and decided to rake some muck.

Also me

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I don't think this nation can withstand the wave of calf-cramping in the wake of a Beto nomination.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Sab0921 posted:

I'm not really sure where the "BETO PROBABLY JUST BUNDLED A BAJILLION DOLLARS WITH HIS CORPORATE TENTACLES" when he just raised $70MM for a Senate race, almost entirely online, with an average donation of less than $40. He has a strong base of support and long e-mail list to pull support from - I'm 99% sure he just wants another news cycle out of it and will release the number of total donors and average donation later in the week to get another bump.

My calves are cramped hard.

Seems like Bernie fans are shook as hell about Beto because they both appeal to the youth vote and have similar charismatic appeals? Like I was super close to muting the word "beto" over the weekend because that's all anyone was posting about.

Of course I'm only talking about online, which is not irl, so who knows. Also when Biden declares it'll suck all the air out of the room and everyone will turn a gimlet eye towards him so gotta get in while the gettin's good.



You know, why even have an AK47 if you can't use it for celebratory gunfire

zoux fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Mar 18, 2019

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/JoaquinCastrotx/status/1107685891429023744

Hmmmm maybe Joaquin will make it a race

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

For those of y'all living down there, is the Deer Park fire still clouding up the Houston area? Is it just smoke in the sky or can y'all smell it?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Not great : /

My folks live near Beaumont and whenever I go down to visit them I'm always struck by the region's industrial hellscape. Eventually that whole part of Texas is going to be an uninhabitable superfund site.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1108026233084936194

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Keeshhound posted:

I'll be honest, I don't really care about the funding details, I'd rather he start focusing on some kind of policy position.

Here read an article written by a guy Bernie hired as his speechwriter today

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1108028251274989569

saintonan posted:

You're probably not gonna like those policy positions, so there's no reason for him to focus on it. Obama and Trump both proved you can run winning campaigns with little or no focus on policy at all.

I'd be interested to know what the last winning presidential campaign that focused on policy was. I doubt it was after the founding of CNN.

https://twitter.com/lmcgaughy/status/1108039693952827397

The Brave and Independent Self-Made Entrepreneurs of the Texas Legislature: "Mods? Mods?????"

zoux fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Mar 19, 2019

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

iroguebot posted:

Another goon on a discord pointed this thread out to me, I live within 2 or 3 miles from this on the edge of Pasadena/Deer Park. Good thing I'm a handholdless goon and gay so I don't have to worry about mutant children coming from my horribly damaged testicles or whatever Cronenberg horrors await me.

What's it like?

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/dsam4a/status/1107758748829769729

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/NaveenaSivam/status/1108083580477960192

Hold ya breath Houston

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

These hapless millennial can't handle a little towering hellfire of burning naptha smh. I guess they need a "safe space" from petrochemical Armageddon.

TCEQ is dutifully reporting particulate levels but I haven't seen comment beyond that.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1108364295417536512

Oh.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Sab0921 posted:

Yeah - but how many of those came from people employed by the energy industry?

45
https://twitter.com/annalecta/status/1108376342482075654

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Just to get ahead of this, where are y'all planning on moving the goalposts next if it turns out Beto's fundraising numbers aren't fudged.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1108406383811182592

Oh I think his clearly defined and stated policies are on there.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/kgroetzi/status/1108474494639898631?s=21

Lol

Oh and badge you were asking about this
https://twitter.com/mizzousundevil/status/1108459556731011073

zoux fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Mar 21, 2019

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/gardnerselby/status/1108649083663716352

Details on that TxDems/Beto campaign funds transfer

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

https://twitter.com/APCentralRegion/status/1108717601948078080

NOT GREAT FOLKS

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

If I were the National Guard I'd simply shoot the benzene, with my gun.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Spacebump posted:

Anyone else remember how our Gov's response to a plant like this blowing up in West, Texas (town not the region) was to make it harder to know if you live near these places?

I get your meaning but I don't think the residents of Deer Park were unaware they lived in a chemical hellhole.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Good rebuttal to the brain geniouses in other states who smirk about "Beto couldn't even beat Ted Cruz"

https://twitter.com/lmcgaughy/status/1109121733062287360

Of course that only highlights the need for a charismatic, exciting 2020 statewide candidate to boost turnout instead of chasing ridiculous WH dreams but HEY

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I think Beto is a very charismatic speaker, I don't know if Joaquin can replicate that but my sense is no. Beyond that, the reason Beto did so well (aside from Cruz/GOP backlash) is because

1. He worked really hard and did really good retail politics in his crisscrossing of the state
2. He had a couple of good viral videos
3. He's got a great image, like he's just good-looking, which counts a lot

As for 1, Joaquin can replicate that if he has the will to. For 2, that's a function of one and luck, so maybe. 3? He's not ugly but he's kind of awkward, he certainly doesn't have Beto's effortless coolness. Ultimately I don't think he has the natural tools that served Beto so well, so I think his best bet is to replicate the model, but not the style of the Beto campaign.

What he has going for him is that it's a presidential cycle and turnout is going to be higher, he's Latino, and Cornyn has worse approval numbers than Cruz. I know people around here think that's just wrong because the natural reaction is to recoil in horror at anything Ted Cruz related. On the other side though, Cruz has hardcore partisan supporters. People don't really feel that strongly about Cornyn, he's just Generic Republican Mk. 1. So, Cruz's turnout may have been higher than it otherwise would be because he turned out the Christian dominionists in a way that Cornyn might not be able to replicate.

Or not, I thought Hillary was a lock and Bernie was a disaster so I've learned that I don't know as much about how things work as I thought. But I think those are reasonable arguments given what we know.

What concerns me about Joaquin are two things. He's neck deep in the Bexar Co. Democratic party, and that party has been fractious, orthodox, and at times more concerned with intraparty politics than political outcome. That's believed to be a big contributor to the loss in SD 19, but maybe they learned their lesson because they turned it around and held HD 125. Not exactly analogous as SD 19 has a massive rural component while the HD is entirely within the city, but maybe it's a good sign. Party unity is going to be a huge factor in Democratic performance. The other relates to his brother running for President. If he flames out with 1% in Iowa then fine, but if he hangs around or if he even gets on the ticket as VP, then Joaquin's fate will mirror the success or failure of his brother. Even I had to keep checking to make sure one did the thing I thought, which one was the mayor, stuff like that. So, people will conflate the actions and baggage of one with the other, and two identical twins running for different offices at different levels of government makes me nervous. If people feel confused about it, can't remember which one ran for president and said that thing they liked/hated, or was it his brother? maybe they don't vote for him.

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zoux
Apr 28, 2006

307 this year, down 100 from last year. Incidentally, by tradition, the Senate doesn't permit amendments on its budget bill


https://twitter.com/scottbraddock/status/1110175888832954373

This is really a show bill that doesn't do anything but rather addresses a problem that hardcore pro-lifers think exists but doesn't (because the pro-life movement is full of liars)


https://twitter.com/alexazura/status/1110193194917158912

lol

zoux fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Mar 25, 2019

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