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CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

Yeah this is steadily decreasing.

The Red Angel looks like something out of Power Rangers. It's really distracting.

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Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

CODChimera posted:

Yeah this is steadily decreasing.

The Red Angel looks like something out of Power Rangers. It's really distracting.
The whole premise would probably be used better if used as the premise of a Sentai.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

CODChimera posted:

Yeah this is steadily decreasing.

The Red Angel looks like something out of Power Rangers. It's really distracting.

I really wish Gabriel had cut off that guys wings or something. I liked Gabriel's fury that a lesser angel would dare harm his brother. I'm glad they going more with Gabriel just wants Micheal to give up on humanity rather then trying to outright kill him. If the show lasts for more then a season I expect the other Archangels to start making an appearance.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
Much funny in this episode

but this had me rolling

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

pentyne posted:

I really wish Gabriel had cut off that guys wings or something. I liked Gabriel's fury that a lesser angel would dare harm his brother. I'm glad they going more with Gabriel just wants Micheal to give up on humanity rather then trying to outright kill him. If the show lasts for more then a season I expect the other Archangels to start making an appearance.

I don't think that's what he's going for, I think he just didn't want Michael to die to a lower angel because in the movie Gabriel actually kills Michael, Michael is sent back by God and even after Gabriel realizes God changed his mind he still tries to kill Michael again.

I finally realized what most of the 'bad acting' is and checked the first two episodes to see if it was the same thing and it is, the vast majority of the non-main actor's lines are all being re-dubbed, it's especially easy to tell in the public areas because you can tell they hosed with the background noise at the same time. Now that you've seen it you won't unsee it, it's hugely distracting.

Also the movie version angel wings were metal so it made a little more sense when they were blocking bullets, changing them to feathers and still blocking bullets is hilarious.

Midnight City fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Jul 5, 2014

Zaekkor
May 12, 2010

Oh, let's break it down!

How good is the angel plot line compared to Supernatural?

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

Too early to tell, only 3 episodes in, plus Supernatural's angel stuff is all over the place in terms of quality so I don't know what to compare it to for you.

To me all the angel stuff in Supernatural is absolute poo poo past season 5, they really don't seem to give a poo poo at all and make up new reasons for stuff working or not working as they go along.

So far this show is avoiding that but again only 3 episodes so who knows what it'll devolve into.

Iseeyouseemeseeyou
Jan 3, 2011
im getting really tired of this daddy wasnt there for me i fuckin hate you michael poo poo really fast

Bloody Pancreas
Feb 21, 2008


I was initially lured by "Angels are actually, for the first time, presented like the Bible has them to be," hoping for angels covered in eyes and wings. It's pretty corny/janky, but it's really tickling that BSG itch. If they can get over the daddy issues and stop making the angels seem like Power Ranger villains then I think I can really get into this show.

...And god drat the person who pointed out the excessive dubbing, I can't unsee that poo poo.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Bloody Pancreas posted:

I was initially lured by "Angels are actually, for the first time, presented like the Bible has them to be," hoping for angels covered in eyes and wings. It's pretty corny/janky, but it's really tickling that BSG itch. If they can get over the daddy issues and stop making the angels seem like Power Ranger villains then I think I can really get into this show.

...And god drat the person who pointed out the excessive dubbing, I can't unsee that poo poo.

I was too distracted by other things to notice the hilarious amounts of dubbing

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo

murphyslaw
Feb 16, 2007
It never fails
Just came from watching Legion and the first episode of this back to back. They're doing some crazy things to something based on something that is already pretty merry, camp, and stupid. Not to say I didn't like Legion--loved it.

The show is poo poo so far. And it's great. I thought what I got from the premise seemed like some 17 year old shut-in's fan fiction of the movie, if it was ripped off inspired by Fallout and the Hunger Games, and possibly drugs. I can't believe they're playing it straight, but paradoxically enough I thought it was amazing comedy. I felt that the little person chasing the woman dressed up as an angel swinging from the ceiling in the cheap knockoff Roman colosseum, complete with a horrible clinky-clanky circus tune and godawful slapstick sound effects, was both unsettling and profoundly hilarious.

The idea that the elite society of "vega" has their own culture based on what casino they shacked up in (I guess?) is so fundamentally absurd that I have completely lost the ability to suspend my disbelief... in a show with angel demon zombies taking over the world. Is it just "house Rieser" or will we see a bunch of dingdongs calling themselves House Medici milling around the Venetian? I bet House Whele's HQ is in the Bellagio.

Speaking of suspension of disbelief, when the muumuu troll angel demon went ballistic in the colosseum, I could not believe that the royalty fled in a senseless panic... out the same god drat exits as the other random plebs. They can afford a 20 meter high wall encompassing 50 blocks of downtown Las Vegas, automatic gun turrets able to shoot down angels, a fusion reactor, but not an escape shaft or tunnel or something for the emperor to get out of the colosseum? This is gonzo as gently caress.

I'm not very convinced of these people's ability to provide security for themselves. I am surprised they have lasted 25 minutes of the apocalypse, let alone 25 years. Or maybe they all gradually went insane during that time and we are now seeing the result. I would not trust these guys with guns and a chosen one. I hope Alex gets out of there so we can see the communist utopia he keeps talking about.

This all probably sounds like I hated the pilot but I loved almost every second of it. It's SyFy at its most poo poo brilliant and it's great. I'm a pretty picky guy but I'll definitely hang around to watch where this gong show is going.

E: forgot to mention but I think they got the same person who did the lighting in the first Dune miniseries to do the lighting in this show too. At least the garish neon hellscape of nu-Vegas can accomodate for their style :unsmith:

murphyslaw fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Jul 7, 2014

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax

etalian posted:

I was too distracted by other things to notice the hilarious amounts of dubbing



It really is some lovely embroidery.

NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011

DeusExMachinima posted:

Isn't "Attack on Titan with Angels" just Neon Genesis Evangelion? Ep. 1 checks all the boxes of SyFyllis drek but giant robots couldn't hurt. Not a single good thing out of that channel since BSG went off the air.

Evangelion's narrative exists and trods along at the service of it's themes. Attack on Titans themes and narrative are linked hand in hand.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012
The show is getting better, we've finally got another Archangel who just wants her brothers to stop being assholes(and has her own schemes it seems) and Alex is starting to slowly understand his 'chosen one' powers. The constant "House X schemes to gain power" is really starting to get tiresome.

I guess with all the money the spent building the Vega sets they can't really justify have Alex go on a pilgrimage/quest for understanding like his father and instead have to keep him in the city and constantly come up with "will his tattoos get revealed?" drama.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
So yeah, one of the major characters just straight up murdered a child, huh :stare:

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

DarkCrawler posted:

So yeah, one of the major characters just straight up murdered a child, huh :stare:

Anthony Head was already pretty cartoonishly evil but after this episode, all that's missing is a moustache for him to twirl...

spronk
Feb 5, 2011

Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.
I hope it turns out that God is talking to Alex through his tattoos, and God is a huge rear end in a top hat who likes to gently caress with everyone.
http://i.imgur.com/kBwP1C9.jpg

Interesting that Uriel is the third angel the show has revealed, and is female. The usual Biblical arch angels are Gabriel, Michael, Raphael, Uriel, Simiel, Oriphiel, and Raguel but there are tons of others named in various books. Wonder where Raphael is chilling, and I really hope we get to see more of the Helena (?) location and story, the wife (?) of the crazy Indian priestess.

BarbarousBertha
Aug 2, 2007

murphyslaw posted:

The idea that the elite society of "vega" has their own culture based on what casino they shacked up in (I guess?) is so fundamentally absurd that I have completely lost the ability to suspend my disbelief... in a show with angel demon zombies taking over the world. Is it just "house Rieser" or will we see a bunch of dingdongs calling themselves House Medici milling around the Venetian? I bet House Whele's HQ is in the Bellagio.

Speaking of suspension of disbelief, when the muumuu troll angel demon went ballistic in the colosseum, I could not believe that the royalty fled in a senseless panic... out the same god drat exits as the other random plebs. They can afford a 20 meter high wall encompassing 50 blocks of downtown Las Vegas, automatic gun turrets able to shoot down angels, a fusion reactor, but not an escape shaft or tunnel or something for the emperor to get out of the colosseum? This is gonzo as gently caress.

I'm not very convinced of these people's ability to provide security for themselves. I am surprised they have lasted 25 minutes of the apocalypse, let alone 25 years. Or maybe they all gradually went insane during that time and we are now seeing the result. I would not trust these guys with guns and a chosen one. I hope Alex gets out of there so we can see the communist utopia he keeps talking about.

This all probably sounds like I hated the pilot but I loved almost every second of it. It's SyFy at its most poo poo brilliant and it's great. I'm a pretty picky guy but I'll definitely hang around to watch where this gong show is going.

E: forgot to mention but I think they got the same person who did the lighting in the first Dune miniseries to do the lighting in this show too. At least the garish neon hellscape of nu-Vegas can accomodate for their style :unsmith:
I'm not sure why part of this is spoilered, but Downtown Las Vegas is not where you seem to think it is. Irrelevant, but whatever.

Las Vegas already IS a hellscape, and every Goodwill is packed with casino branded giveaway poo poo, so as far as "Hey, kids let's come up with some easy logos to distinguish our new cliques" it's not the most outlandish idea. There is even a shitton of huge construction equipment around town (and right down the road by that Hoover Dam thingy) that makes the wall's construction seem relatively plausible. The really dumb aspect is the CGI damage on the hotels that are still in use. Yes, it makes perfect sense to have missing swathes of window for twenty-five years in a place with extreme heat and cold and high winds. That won't gently caress the entire building up! Especially not the Luxor!

House Whele is obviously in the MGM Grand: green with lions. And Giles' accent is a lot more even than Hugh Laurie in Season 1 of House. It's just really loving weird to hear it from his face.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
I'm not exactly sure how Vega is even viable in this show unless they have armed guards keeping the water running from the Hoover Dam.

BarbarousBertha
Aug 2, 2007

Party Plane Jones posted:

I'm not exactly sure how Vega is even viable in this show unless they have armed guards keeping the water running from the Hoover Dam.

Reroute all the flood control drainage from Lake Las Vegas plus the original springs, maybe. gently caress wetland bird preserves? It's "Vega" because there is only one meadow left.
The extra pipeline from Hoover Dam is already happening. http://www.newsweek.com/2014/07/18/relentless-drought-forcing-las-vegas-take-extreme-measures-258092.html
Although now that I think about it Vegas only gets a tiny bit of the available water since so much goes to surrounding states which would have mostly been bombed to hell.

City planning issues in my angel show, man.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

BarbarousBertha posted:


City planning issues in my angel show, man.

Yeah but you'd think the Dam would have just been destroyed since it's a big source of power for the region to begin with. Downriver wouldn't be as bad as say, Three Gorges blowing open but I wouldn't want to be down that route for a good hundred miles.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Who healed Michael with Phoenix down or whatever? Uriel or one of those humanoid angels in hiding? Uriel right probably?

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

Boris Galerkin posted:

Who healed Michael with Phoenix down or whatever? Uriel or one of those humanoid angels in hiding? Uriel right probably?

I figured it was Uriel.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Party Plane Jones posted:

I'm not exactly sure how Vega is even viable in this show unless they have armed guards keeping the water running from the Hoover Dam.

BarbarousBertha posted:

Reroute all the flood control drainage from Lake Las Vegas plus the original springs, maybe. gently caress wetland bird preserves? It's "Vega" because there is only one meadow left.
The extra pipeline from Hoover Dam is already happening. http://www.newsweek.com/2014/07/18/relentless-drought-forcing-las-vegas-take-extreme-measures-258092.html
Although now that I think about it Vegas only gets a tiny bit of the available water since so much goes to surrounding states which would have mostly been bombed to hell.

City planning issues in my angel show, man.

Party Plane Jones posted:

Yeah but you'd think the Dam would have just been destroyed since it's a big source of power for the region to begin with. Downriver wouldn't be as bad as say, Three Gorges blowing open but I wouldn't want to be down that route for a good hundred miles.


Lot of this spergin' is actually explained on the website, which is OK in my books because they don't have to use the time in the show.
http://www.syfy.com/enterdominion/?chapter=1

richardfun posted:

I figured it was Uriel.

I thought it was the younger Whele working for Gabriel.

BarbarousBertha
Aug 2, 2007

DarkCrawler posted:

Lot of this spergin' is actually explained on the website, which is OK in my books because they don't have to use the time in the show.
http://www.syfy.com/enterdominion/?chapter=1
Thanks, I tend to ignore show websites on the assumption it's just a bunch of photos and episode recaps.

I let the geography sperging go once I found out they are filming in Cape Town anyway and remembered I never care about the location accuracy of other shows when goons post, "They said they took Blerghargh St to get to Famous Local Landmark, but everyone who lives here knows it runs in the opposite direction!" Only people who live in the setting notice that the Flamingo is on the opposite side of the Strip from where Alex was in the pilot. Nobody cares. (I'll admit it was fun to have something to sperg about, but I'll rein it in.)

There is a company called Dominion Environmental Consulting in Las Vegas, though. I laughed. Okay okay, NOW I'll stop.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

DarkCrawler posted:

I thought it was the younger Whele working for Gabriel.

I just figured it was Gabriel.

Or maybe God is one of us.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

So it's basically a oligarchy system of government in Vega despite having titles like Senator.

Midnight City
Jun 3, 2013

A 10% levy on BAKED GOODS?!

I don't think they even bothered to think through it enough to have a system. The part where the one woman goes "well I'll just name YOU first woman" and then she just goes "well I give you permission to cast my vote while I run off" had me laughing out loud.

Between that and the house names it's seriously like the rules you'd come up with for your 12 year old tree house. Mark is my #2 but if he's grounded then we can use his vote to determine if we go to war with the lunchbox kids!

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

Midnight City posted:

I don't think they even bothered to think through it enough to have a system. The part where the one woman goes "well I'll just name YOU first woman" and then she just goes "well I give you permission to cast my vote while I run off" had me laughing out loud.

Between that and the house names it's seriously like the rules you'd come up with for your 12 year old tree house. Mark is my #2 but if he's grounded then we can use his vote to determine if we go to war with the lunchbox kids!

It's a hereditary republican/monarchic system with two consuls and a dictator, much like the old Roman Republic. Honestly what I would expect from humans in a situation this lovely. Nobody wants to give up their hold of power and who's better to mold up to you successor then your kid?

Again, explained in more detail in the website. Executive is powerful but not all-powerful.

DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Jul 13, 2014

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

DarkCrawler posted:

It's a hereditary republican/monarchic system with two consuls and a dictator, much like the old Roman Republic. Honestly what I would expect from humans in a situation this lovely. Nobody wants to give up their hold of power and who's better to mold up to you successor then your kid?

Again, explained in more detail in the website. Executive is powerful but not all-powerful.

The consuls only served for a year though. And who would be the dictator in this situation? Before Caesar, those tended to rule for limited amounts of time and then resign.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin

richardfun posted:

The consuls only served for a year though. And who would be the dictator in this situation? Before Caesar, those tended to rule for limited amounts of time and then resign.

Sulla came before Caesar, and Marius served seven terms as a consul.

I didn't say it was identical. It's similar. General Reisen is the dictator (as he controls the military).

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
Well that was certainly a twist with that preview.

hollylolly
Jun 5, 2009

Do you like superheroes? Check out my CYOA Mutants: Uprising

How about weird historical fiction? Try Vampires of the Caribbean

I kind of hate this show. It's just interesting enough that I'll probably keep watching, but I'm not really enjoying it. Meh.

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

hollylolly posted:

I kind of hate this show. It's just interesting enough that I'll probably keep watching, but I'm not really enjoying it. Meh.

It's got so many cast members that none of them really seem notable so no one cares about the House politics and squabbles going on in the city. Also, the pilot talked about other cities and trade, with that weird women cult, but that seems to have completely disappeared. And they just dropped in another archangel and then completely moved back to House vs House Vega bullshit.

I don't think they are ever going to leave Vega, and the city is easily the least interesting thing about the show. The mysterious angel cults, the tattoos, Micheal and his schemes, Uriel's plans, whatever Gabriel is up to; all of these things have loads of potential for interesting stories yet we get more and more city political squabbles.

hollylolly
Jun 5, 2009

Do you like superheroes? Check out my CYOA Mutants: Uprising

How about weird historical fiction? Try Vampires of the Caribbean

Yeah, the angels are the most interesting characters, so let's spend all our time on the humans and their wedding plans. :rolleyes:

Also I have no idea why that piece of fabric tipped Claire to a Gabriel connection. :shrug:

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

hollylolly posted:

Yeah, the angels are the most interesting characters, so let's spend all our time on the humans and their wedding plans. :rolleyes:

Also I have no idea why that piece of fabric tipped Claire to a Gabriel connection. :shrug:

it's part of the uniform of the angel worshipping black acolytes.

BarbarousBertha
Aug 2, 2007

Michael has a really interesting face so I'm going to keep watching until I get bored with looking at him. Anthony Stewart Head's full tilt evil is kinda fun, too, but this show has less going for it every episode.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

hollylolly posted:

Also I have no idea why that piece of fabric tipped Claire to a Gabriel connection. :shrug:

It's a symbol of the cult.

The cult of neckerchiefs.

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

BarbarousBertha posted:

Michael has a really interesting face so I'm going to keep watching until I get bored with looking at him. Anthony Stewart Head's full tilt evil is kinda fun, too, but this show has less going for it every episode.

on the bright side the gratuitous rear end shot was pretty wonderful

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