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Caught yesterday's stage on highlights. The GC race is dead, people launching half hearted attacks in the last 3km and then waiting to sprint for bonus seconds is pathetic. What happened to stages like this!! As people have pointed out sky have strangled this tdf yet again and that's without thomas. Sky could literally have had 1-2-3 in the GC if they'd tried for it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmsERu8HxS4 If it wasn't for barguil yesterday would have been completely forgettable
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Money doping is the biggest issue in the TdF. Sky give no shits for the other races really and every year throw all the money at it. They're going to 8 man teams next year, no? That gonna make it better or worse?
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Jul 21, 2017 12:33
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Lenin Riefenstahl posted:Money doping is the biggest issue in the TdF. Sky give no shits for the other races really and every year throw all the money at it. Sky effectively had 8 men for this tour. It won't make a difference.
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Jul 21, 2017 12:49
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This is why the stage is this long then e: the plane interlude I mean. It is rather good tbf Skarsnik fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Jul 21, 2017 13:26
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idgaf about armies and everything to do with the army, can someone please get these dumb planes away from the screen
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Jul 21, 2017 13:36
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(I enjoyed the pretty planes) I don't know what they can do really about Sky. Capping team sizes will hurt everyone and a lots of guys lose their biggest payday of the year, and budget caps in any sport with sponsors and equipment suppliers are impossible to police
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Jul 21, 2017 13:44
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Skarsnik posted:(I enjoyed the pretty planes) I say we kill them all op
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Jul 21, 2017 13:47
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Ok dumb question time. Something I never thought about until this years race: why do the guys leading the peloton spend so much time on a pull on the flats? I'm watching Kwiatkajskeuojajwski out in front for like the last 10 minutes here.
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Jul 21, 2017 13:52
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Dangerllama posted:Ok dumb question time. Something I never thought about until this years race: why do the guys leading the peloton spend so much time on a pull on the flats? I'm watching Kwiatkajskeuojajwski out in front for like the last 10 minutes here. For a lot of the guys they're really good TT riders and this is just training. See: Tony Martin or Kiriyenka. I'm sad that this is Kwiatkowski's life now for 75% of the season. He's a proper attacking bike racer and Sky just use him as another engine in the train. Then again he probably has a money vault like Scrooge McDuck at this point so I'm sure he's not suffering. Throwing off Oakleys during the race like they're nothing...
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Jul 21, 2017 14:02
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Dangerllama posted:Ok dumb question time. Something I never thought about until this years race: why do the guys leading the peloton spend so much time on a pull on the flats? I'm watching Kwiatkajskeuojajwski out in front for like the last 10 minutes here. Traditionally the team protecting the yellow jersey controls the race so will have their guys on the front making sure a break doesn't go out too far, toward the end of a stag like this is when the sprinting teams will come forward to start really putting the hammer down. If Tony Martin is on the front it's because he just likes hurting people
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Jul 21, 2017 14:10
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Traditionally the team protecting the yellow jersey controls the race so will have their guys on the front making sure a break doesn't go out too far, toward the end of a stag like this is when the sprinting teams will come forward to start really putting the hammer down. If Tony Martin is on the front it's because he just likes hurting people I understand the team concepts/strategy. I was asking more specifically about drafting within the team driving the pace. The individuals there take longer pulls (before rotating with a teammate) than I would have expected waffle enthusiast fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Jul 21, 2017 |
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Jul 21, 2017 14:16
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VacaGrande posted:For a lot of the guys they're really good TT riders and this is just training. See: Tony Martin or Kiriyenka. I'm sad that this is Kwiatkowski's life now for 75% of the season. He's a proper attacking bike racer and Sky just use him as another engine in the train. Then again he probably has a money vault like Scrooge McDuck at this point so I'm sure he's not suffering. Throwing off Oakleys during the race like they're nothing... Kwiatkowski had his best spring classics campaign this year, so there's that too.
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HappyCamperGL posted:Kwiatkowski had his best spring classics campaign this year, so there's that too. He feels like an attack dog straining at the end of a leash doing poo poo like this though. It's like putting GvA into a train for Richie Porte (lol remember him?).
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Jul 21, 2017 14:29
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VacaGrande posted:For a lot of the guys they're really good TT riders and this is just training. See: Tony Martin or Kiriyenka. I'm sad that this is Kwiatkowski's life now for 75% of the season. He's a proper attacking bike racer and Sky just use him as another engine in the train. Then again he probably has a money vault like Scrooge McDuck at this point so I'm sure he's not suffering. Throwing off Oakleys during the race like they're nothing... There's no way be bought those glasses dude. There's probably a box of dozens of pairs in the bus
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Jul 21, 2017 14:34
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The computer has probably analysed the most effective way to use the train boys based on their strength throughout the day, overall endurance potential and recovery rate when in the draft. If it hasn't then they're just not loving trying.
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Jul 21, 2017 15:30
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Today is so loving dull so far
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Jul 21, 2017 15:39
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VacaGrande posted:He feels like an attack dog straining at the end of a leash doing poo poo like this though. It's like putting GvA into a train for Richie Porte (lol remember him?). GvA was doing exactly this for Porte earlier in this very Tour though?
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Jul 21, 2017 15:42
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vikingstrike posted:There's no way be bought those glasses dude. There's probably a box of dozens of pairs in the bus Was not meant literally. I want to see him and GvA fighting for a stage, not leading their respective leaders' trains.
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Jul 21, 2017 15:53
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So huge boring stage with a massive pile up at the end?
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Jul 21, 2017 16:03
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Or barely anyone's gonna contest it.
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Jul 21, 2017 16:19
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Can't see Eddie BH screwing this up (he will definitely screw it up).
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Jul 21, 2017 16:33
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Apparently the only one to read the roadbook and go the right way over the roundabout.
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Jul 21, 2017 16:38
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Jul 21, 2017 16:41
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Good for him, he deserved one.
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Jul 21, 2017 16:41
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First rider with braces to win a tour stage?
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Jul 21, 2017 16:43
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Eddy the big boss. He deserved that one after 64 second and third places this year.
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Jul 21, 2017 16:44
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Ola posted:I have divined some energy gel and seen that today is Edvald's day. Energy gel never lies. 
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Jul 21, 2017 16:53
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I don't see a way to make GC cycling in the TDF competitive without some sort of salary cap, which is of course completely impossible with the trade team structure. I'm not sure Froome was even the strongest rider in this race, but when you can put guys like Kwiatowksi and Landa and Thomas on the front for 75-80% of the hardest climbs, and then go out and buy their replacements when they go for their own ambitions (Porte), its hard to compete.
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Jul 21, 2017 16:56
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It's fun when seemingly everyone out there is happy about the stage winner (see also Warbasse at Suisse).
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According to the Dimension Data team captain, they had planned that roundabout well. They couldn't plan for almost everyone else missing it though. https://twitter.com/inrng/status/888425415840329728 Maybe 35 m gain in one fell swoop?
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VacaGrande posted:Was not meant literally. I want to see him and GvA fighting for a stage, not leading their respective leaders' trains. This is why classics races are cool and good and should never go away
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van Avermaet has contested a bunch of stages this year. I don't remember Kwiat' going anything of note until he had to get off his bike and have a rest yesterday.
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paddyboat posted:van Avermaet has contested a bunch of stages this year. I don't remember Kwiat' going anything of note until he had to get off his bike and have a rest yesterday. He's been in the top 10 3 times this tour, and I had honestly forgotten it had been that much. Greipel has had a better tour and has been forgettable too
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Jul 22, 2017 01:27
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Really enjoyed tour de pharmacy for what it's worth but I also watch wrasslin
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the little surge after the roundabout bit  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hPMnJtAE0g
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Jul 22, 2017 04:25
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Norwegian version: https://streamable.com/h2ru5
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Jul 22, 2017 04:38
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wtf is going on in La Course today?
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Jul 22, 2017 12:03
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Lizzie done hosed up
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Jul 22, 2017 12:25
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So what gearing are the men going to use for this 12% average 120m climb? 56/42x11-30t? 11-32t even.
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