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quote:"Despite legitimate concerns over sky-high rents, Ellis Act evictions, Google Bus traffic, and the like, the San Francisco Bay Area is perhaps the most prosperous, comfortable, enlightened, stimulating, and generative place to live in Western history. For satisfying parallels, you'd have to look to a place like Florence and a time like the Renaissance, argues an Xconomy essay entitled From Cosimo to Cosmos: The Medici Effect in Culture and Technology. Today's coder-kings are working to reinvent economic structures in much the same way Renaissance painters, poets, architects, and scientists were trying to extend the framework they'd inherited from classical Greece and Rome. And in the role of the Medici family, long Florence's most powerful rulers and art patrons, we have people like Mark Zuckerberg, Tim Cook, and Seth MacFarlane. Wait, what — Seth MacFarlane? Yes, the reboot of Carl Sagan's Cosmos starring Neil deGrasse Tyson (itself a tribute to the rise of science) wouldn't have happened without the involvement of a California media mogul. It's true that Silicon Valley can feel like Dante's Inferno if you're stuck in traffic on 101, or working 70-hour weeks as a code monkey at a doomed startup. But 'It would be unthinking, and ungrateful, to overlook the surplus we're reaping from the tech boom,' the essay argues." http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/03/14/2119207/why-san-francisco-is-the-new-renaissance-florence http://www.xconomy.com/national/2014/03/14/from-cosimo-to-cosmos-the-medici-effect-in-culture-and-technology/?single_page=true this is the new tech bubble thread. all postings about how the current bay area app economy is durable and lasting and will go on forever and make us all rich go here
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I'm a software developer. Consequently, I both use software and have to use specs that others have written. By and large, I feel that CS (computer science, information science, whatever you want to call the field) suffers from too much ivory-towerism. Most specs are overengineered, needlessly bloated, and oversolve the problem they're trying to address. This makes the spec difficult to implement, and resulting APIs (for libraries) difficult to use. This would be acceptable except for the fact that, in most cases, most of that bloat is a result of the 80/20 rule: 80% of the bloat c omes from 20% of the functionality, and usually the 20% nobody uses. SGML, SOAP, DOM... the list of difficult, yet "properly", designed specs is large. While this may not directly apply to the hypothetical "correct solution" you describe, it does relate to another problem with CS: many of these specs are poor because they're defined by Committies. I use a capital "C" because I refer to that special breed of groups of people who seem to be more interested in sitting around discussing, politicking, and who are so assured of their own importance that they take several years to do what any reasonable, sane person can do alone -- with community input -- in a couple of months. I like yEnc: it works, and it is there now. It solves a problem, without waiting for another 10 years for the "specialists" to come up with their solution. I like it specifically because it provides a REAL solution, not a vaporware promise of a shiny future. It isn't perfect, but then again... neither is MIME, and MIME was designed by "specialists". One last point: if the correct solution involves "fixing" MIME, I fully expect we'll be using yEnc for decades. 40% space savings is a powerful argument for even a bad design. Defacto standards may not be the best, but in a vaccuum of alternatives, they're better than nothing.
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Remind me what zoiderberg is doing for the world besides pumping money into tech toys
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Gazpacho posted:Remind me what zoiderberg is doing for the world besides pumping money into tech toys Experimenting on human beings Slate posted:
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Wolfman Nards posted:Experimenting on human beings lol that rules
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Wolfman Nards posted:Experimenting on human beings This is awesome and horrifying and in twenty years we will wish we could come back to this moment in time and change something, anything, but we cant and its just too late
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That pales to what page and brine would like to do
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teamdest posted:This is awesome and horrifying and in twenty years we will wish we could come back to this moment in time and change something, anything, but we cant and its just too late Tech companies have been doing this since the 90s
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teamdest posted:This is awesome and horrifying and in twenty years we will wish we could come back to this moment in time and change something, anything, but we cant and its just too late Or maybe just not have a face book account? 
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the strum und drang and the wailing and gnashing of teeth and rending of garments over yenc was so hilarious poo poo works bitches, deal with it
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it's me, I'm the coder-king
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Idk wat yenc is but I assume its v closely connected with php
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Gazpacho posted:Idk wat yenc is but I assume its v closely connected with php You know how uuencode fits everything into 6 bit printable characters to ensure normal binary data will be able to pass through lovely text only links? Yenc extends the mechanism to using full 8 bit characters, requiring much less overhead. But it does a very marginally sub optimal thing by using plain text thingies in message bodies to indicate starts and stops which is like whatever cuz usenet binaries suddenly used like 35%less space and bandwidth
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is this the new hp lovecraft thread?
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ugh sv bubble-speak is leaking:
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yeah to your wallet maybe who the gently caress buys oakleys
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I wish the tech bubble would pop and San Fran would implode like rapture
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Luigi Thirty posted:I wish the tech bubble would pop and San Fran would implode like rapture this really really needs to coincide with a major earthquake
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ultramiraculous posted:this really really needs to coincide with a major earthquake what if an earthquake popped to bubble!??
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nigga crab pollock posted:yeah to your wallet maybe who the gently caress buys oakleys Cyclists, fratbros, and douchebags. I am aware there is overlap between those groups.
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Wolfman Nards posted:Experimenting on human beings advertisers have been doing this poo poo forever and ever Facebook just provided a previously unheard of sample size to play with. the only surprising part is that they published an academic paper of people to get all up in arms about this.
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CISADMIN PRIVILEGE posted:advertisers have been doing this poo poo forever and ever Facebook just provided a previously unheard of sample size to play with. the only surprising part is that they published an academic paper of people to get all up in arms about this. they did it in association with federally funded university researchers so lol
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hobbesmaster posted:they did it in association with federally funded university researchers so lol the Facebook prison experiment
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hobbesmaster posted:they did it in association with federally funded university researchers so lol And with a definition of "informed consent" that is so incredibly bad it should get the researchers involved permanently blacklisted from future human experimentation. It literally was "they signed the EULA." This is an incredibly awful fuckup. God help them if someone in the "sad news" group committed suicide during the term, and with the numbers involved that isn't all that unlikely.
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if you kill yourself over facebook postings, you sorta deserve it
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hey man, disruption doesn't wait for your ethics
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Bay area tech people are a special kind of trash and easily more contemptible than even the shittiest blue-collar shitheels from the deep south or the Dakota oil/gas boom.
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Fabricated posted:Bay area tech people are a special kind of trash and easily more contemptible than even the shittiest blue-collar shitheels from the deep south or the Dakota oil/gas boom. i think its because it's way easier to write off hicks and blue-collar shitheels as ignorant and uneducated rather than just purely lovely people (they still are). the bay area tech/dark enlightenment crowd have no excuses, they're affluent and educated and they're still the shittiest things on two legs. it's just way easier to point to someone wearing a $1500 fashion crime on their face complaining about cyborg rights and say, look at that contemptible fuckwit, they should loving know better.
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allah willing something will destroy the tech bubble, none of what is happening has any direct correlation with any of the "real" tech businesses anyway
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Das Volk posted:allah willing something will destroy the tech bubble, none of what is happening has any direct correlation with any of the "real" tech businesses anyway right. the big big big big money is still locked up in incremental upgrades and new generations of existing products and two year rollouts and five year plans startup scene has pocket change compared to the bucks that move around in furtherance of dumb business middleware java bloat boring poo poo that makes somebody some money somewhere
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it basically just makes living/working in the bay area a bigger pain in the rear end than usual
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Das Volk posted:it basically just makes living/working in the bay area a bigger pain in the rear end than usual previous wave gentrifier spotted
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Jonny 290 posted:right. the big big big big money is still locked up in incremental upgrades and new generations of existing products and two year rollouts and five year plans a single microsoft contract to keep backporting patches to windows nt 4.0 for a single company generates more straight profit for microsoft in a year than most startups will ever see in venture capital
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Nintendo Kid posted:a single microsoft contract to keep backporting patches to windows nt 4.0 for a single company generates more straight profit for microsoft in a year than most startups will ever see in venture capital they don't like hearing that, it makes them feel less important
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infernal machines posted:i think its because it's way easier to write off hicks and blue-collar shitheels as ignorant and uneducated rather than just purely lovely people (they still are). the bay area tech/dark enlightenment crowd have no excuses, they're affluent and educated and they're still the shittiest things on two legs. actual ignorance is acceptable, willful ignorance is what is disgusting.
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Jonny 290 posted:right. the big big big big money is still locked up in incremental upgrades and new generations of existing products and two year rollouts and five year plans :oracle:
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