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TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Until I went to the temple, where the High Priest asked me what my name was, and I said, 'Snoop Dogg.' And he looked me in my eyes and said, 'No more. You are the light; you are the lion.'


the_american_dream posted:

There's gotta be like a 98% chance that every beat on that Mustard tape is the exact same

true, i downloaded for the nipsey and dom k verses

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emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?


new underachievers leaked, real good so far imo

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010





Skeezy posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mO2VcJAkOw

Rustie - Attak ft Danny Brown

Here's the video for that Rustie thing.

This is so so good. I know I probably said it already but a Danny x Rustie ep would be amazing.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Spooky Black dropped an EP: https://soundcloud.com/spookyblack/sets/leaving-ep

Also, FlyLo and Kendrick are doing a song together, which is cool

e: new Vince Staples http://www.complex.com/music/2014/0...ples-blue-suede

HorseRenoir fucked around with this message at Aug 12, 2014 around 04:12

Oppenheimer
Dec 26, 2011

by Smythe


What are some songs that have slurred speech/sound like Chief Keef's verse on Top in the Trash? For some reason I think that's the catchiest part of the song. In exchange heres the Top 6 song they used in their gangland episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=src_-0XyJG0

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3665 days!


Shredded Hen

Remember that song "Old english" from a little while back w Ferg, thugger, and gibbs? Is that coming out on somebody's tape/album at some point?

Hashtag Nascar
Jan 4, 2012



thathonkey posted:

Remember that song "Old english" from a little while back w Ferg, thugger, and gibbs? Is that coming out on somebody's tape/album at some point?

I think it's on the Mass Appeal compilation coming out at the end of September.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010


HorseRenoir posted:

Spooky Black dropped an EP: https://soundcloud.com/spookyblack/sets/leaving-ep

Also, FlyLo and Kendrick are doing a song together, which is cool

e: new Vince Staples http://www.complex.com/music/2014/0...ples-blue-suede

I'm really curious how the FlyLo and Herbie Hancock song will be.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010





Henchman of Santa posted:

I'm really curious how the FlyLo and Herbie Hancock song will be.

Cool as poo poo no doubt

Lancelot
May 23, 2006



Fun Shoe

New Joey Bada$$. Not bad, feels a bit darker than his other stuff, and he's not as shrill as he can be in the first verse of this. Hoping this next album is better than Summer Knights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmC2igVQdxc

Robawesome
Jul 22, 2005



http://trapsntrunks.com/2014/08/11/...-p-slim-dunkin/

R.I.P. Slim Dunkin off Gucci vs Guwop

preorder link for the album
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/g...wop/id908731863

Bedovian
Jul 16, 2012


A.Dd+ just realeased a new ep called NAWF,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAJZtdHD0YA

all 5 songs are up on their youtube, so far I'm really enjoying it

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010


Killer Mike wrote a thing about the Missouri teen slaying

http://exclaim.ca/News/killer_mike_..._in_open_letter

Worth a read, IMO.

youngallah
Mar 14, 2012


yeah a.dd+ are the truth

BTW check out my new single with my homie out of San Antonio, Worldwide

Jonathan Fisk
Sep 6, 2010

Get your umbrella fella cause we blowin hella chedda


Mick Jenkins tape is up and down but the production is chill



good poo poo

THNDRTHF
Apr 14, 2004

so much for
bein' optimistic


LNS Crew is killing poo poo.

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008



These Days has really grown on me.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008


I've been listening to Meek Mill recently, just some of his more well known stuff, whats some good poo poo he's on or has made? I do an album with a work out, i been through Dreamchaser 2/3 and Dreams worth more than money.

Any good mixtape poo poo?

Robawesome
Jul 22, 2005



Waroduce posted:

I've been listening to Meek Mill recently, just some of his more well known stuff, whats some good poo poo he's on or has made? I do an album with a work out, i been through Dreamchaser 2/3 and Dreams worth more than money.

Any good mixtape poo poo?

Dreams and Nightmares

edit: wait that's probably what you meant instead of DWMTM, right? because DWMTM isn't out yet

Robawesome fucked around with this message at Aug 14, 2014 around 02:44

40 lbs to freedom
Apr 13, 2007



i like his verse on the remix of my nigga but if youve listened to dreamchasers 2+3 and dreams and nightmares i think youve pretty much hit the highlights.

heres that remix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l7J1i1OkKs

also while we're on the topic dreams and nightmares is the best intro since i dont know when
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8gfqs1-NuE

temple
Jul 29, 2006



Cormega released Mega Philosophy last month. I've liked every song I've heard on there but I haven't heard it all. He features one of my top 3 favorite rappers Black Rob on Home. The song is about 2 minutes long and only has 2 verses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4f0ccSfGX8

Other standouts are of course Industry, which may have heard and MARS (Mega, Redman, AZ, Style P), that contains 3 of my other favorite rappers. Mega has good taste.

My undisputed favorite song of the summer is Hot Nigga. He's so young and meancing. It isn't Shook Ones but it will do. Noz said he was copying Chicago but I don't feel that way. He puts a little more creativity and effort in what he's saying imo.

The other song I like right now is OM by NehruvianDOOM. Bishop Nehru is boring but he has some quality that holds potential. He has that cool delivery that NY is known for and is confident without posturing.

Byron Crawford of XXL blogging fame did a write-up on Mike Brown, Ferguson MO, and race issues. You don't have read it all but I've pasted the part about hiphop here.

quote:

Three days after the kid got killed, I’ve yet to hear a rap song about it. If this were 2001, some bum mixtape rapper would have at least used Mike Brown’s name as an inappropriate punchline. We’re somehow moving backwards technologically. One of the promises of all this digital technology is that rappers would be able to record protest songs in drat near real time; the same day an unarmed black man was killed by the police a rapper could record and release a song complaining about it. Instead, all we’ve got is people recording their own versions of “Hot Nigga” by Bobby Shmurda.

If that doesn’t tell you all you need to know about hip-hop circa 2014, I don’t know what would. You know who’s really a hot nigga? A black kid lying dead in the street for hours on end, in August in St. Louis. I know, I know… terrible.

I should be more upset, both with my own writing and with hip-hop, but what difference would it make? The fact of the matter is, hip-hop doesn’t speak for the black community anymore. It’s not a reflection of what we’re thinking, it’s a reflection of how white people want us to look. Go on Twitter and try to find one black kid who isn’t bitching and moaning about Ferguson. And it’s been like that all summer long. Meanwhile, what’s the rap song of the summer? “Fancy?” “Anaconda?” “Hot Nigga?” Those songs don’t effectively capture the zeitgeist.

Used to be, rap music was the CNN for black people. Now actual CNN is the CNN for black people, at least compared to rap music. 25 years ago, when all of the exact same poo poo was happening, it seems, we had “Fight the Power” by Public Enemy. Now we’ve got a guy named Peter Rosenberg on Hot 97 talking about how he’s done more for hip-hop than Chuck D ever did. This poo poo is over. It was fun while it lasted but that’s it. We sold it, and we didn’t even get enough money to move to an area where you can walk in the street without getting shot by the police. Nice neighborhoods don’t even have sidewalks. Either you walk in the street or you’d be walking on someone’s lawn. The cops hardly ever drive by, and they could give a gently caress if they did.

GET MONEY
Sep 7, 2003



Bol's thing is pretty rambling. Isn't this Mike Brown situation getting a whole bunch of media attention? There's no coverage gap there for a Public Enemy to fill anymore, they solved the problem of getting black people issues on the news. That's a win for hip-hop! That's why actual CNN is the CNN of black people now, a protest song isn't going to accomplish more than #IfTheyGunnedMeDown.

Sadly but accurately the zeitgeist of this generation is recognizing the only way not get randomly beaten and shot and generally mistreated in 2014 American society is to get your rear end in the 1%. So that's where hip-hop lives now, somewhere between aspiration and video game level escapism. If you're still getting your social justice news from hip-hop

And No Flex Zone is easily the song of the summer.

And this new Kevin Gates is tight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GlLNXy1_VE

And the sub bass on this new Live from Fulton County Gucci intro is drat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgdkbyGXtQg

And this potato-recorded new Kanye single is gonna be major

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ojPjR4MKM

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010





I put forward a challenge to you rap heads: can anyone provide or make a full list of Gucci mixtapes? I know this is probably impossible but I'd love to see a comprehensive list at least.

Lancelot
May 23, 2006



Fun Shoe

Quantum of Phallus posted:

I put forward a challenge to you rap heads: can anyone provide or make a full list of Gucci mixtapes? I know this is probably impossible but I'd love to see a comprehensive list at least.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gucci_...graphy#Mixtapes ?

Robawesome
Jul 22, 2005




That's not all of them. At first glance I notice there's no Wilt Chamberlain tapes. Felix Brothers is missing too, though that's not Gucci solo

ed - Gangsta Grillz - The Movie isn't in the list either, and that's one of Gucci's best

Robawesome fucked around with this message at Aug 14, 2014 around 11:59

TenaciousTomato
Jul 17, 2007

Until I went to the temple, where the High Priest asked me what my name was, and I said, 'Snoop Dogg.' And he looked me in my eyes and said, 'No more. You are the light; you are the lion.'



dope interview with cormega on the combat jack show I listened to at wor kthe other day

https://soundcloud.com/thecombatjac...losophy-episode

animal drums
Jul 8, 2010


[pushes glasses up on nose, super nasally voice] I put forth a challenge to you "hip hop heads" [laughs nerdishly],

temple
Jul 29, 2006



GET MONEY posted:

Bol's thing is pretty rambling. Isn't this Mike Brown situation getting a whole bunch of media attention? There's no coverage gap there for a Public Enemy to fill anymore, they solved the problem of getting black people issues on the news. That's a win for hip-hop! That's why actual CNN is the CNN of black people now, a protest song isn't going to accomplish more than #IfTheyGunnedMeDown.

Sadly but accurately the zeitgeist of this generation is recognizing the only way not get randomly beaten and shot and generally mistreated in 2014 American society is to get your rear end in the 1%. So that's where hip-hop lives now, somewhere between aspiration and video game level escapism. If you're still getting your social justice news from hip-hop
The question is better phrased as why does the music only reflect one dimension of the listeners? It didn't always. What changed?

temple fucked around with this message at Aug 14, 2014 around 14:47

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

A villain in your land, in his land a ruler


Grimey Drawer

temple posted:

The question is better phrased as why does the music only reflect one dimension of the listeners? It didn't always. What changed?

It doesn't now only reflect one dimension, looking at the whole. And as far as "mainstream" rap it's always tended more towards one dimension anyways. Dudes seriously have a skewed view of the past and what music was out and available-PE wasn't just an outlier but isn't really that different than what Kanye was doing on some songs with Yeezus. When PE was actually making good music, I think MC Hammer had the best selling rap album.

Bol is by far my fav rap writer, but dudes tastes are firmly in the 90's/early 2000s and it doesn't seem like he's ever tried to identify any newer music that isn't getting immediate buzz. His tumblr feed is great if you want to find out what a bunch of indy rappers from the 90's are up to now (which is usually remaking whatever poo poo they did in the past for an increasingly shrinking fanbase). Dudes seriously more tuned into indie rock now than any modern rap stuff.

I think the situation is a lot less that rap isn't serving black people anymore but more that black culture itself has changed to have different focuses. When PE was big you had a lot of the back-to-africa/pro-black stuff being promulgated. That's just not really present anymore.

GET MONEY posted:

Bol's thing is pretty rambling. Isn't this Mike Brown situation getting a whole bunch of media attention? There's no coverage gap there for a Public Enemy to fill anymore, they solved the problem of getting black people issues on the news. That's a win for hip-hop! That's why actual CNN is the CNN of black people now, a protest song isn't going to accomplish more than #IfTheyGunnedMeDown.

Sadly but accurately the zeitgeist of this generation is recognizing the only way not get randomly beaten and shot and generally mistreated in 2014 American society is to get your rear end in the 1%. So that's where hip-hop lives now, somewhere between aspiration and video game level escapism. If you're still getting your social justice news from hip-hop
I don't really think this is right either. I don't think protest songs would help much, but #hastagprotests don't do poo poo either. Hell, even real, physical protests don't do poo poo. It's pretty much open season on Negros in the US now and there's nothing that's gonna change that. I've been saying it for years now but blacks are essentially doomed. The constant news cycle has more to do with coverage than any actual "progress"-if there was really progress situations like what's going on in StL wouldn't have happened.

Rap's not just aspiration and excapism-that's some straight up bullshit based solely on that being what you wanna listen to. And getting your info from rap isn't any worse than any other source, especially now when "social justice" is just something you say to let other people know how progressive you are and make your twitter feed seem a bit less inane. And if anyone really thinks there's not a coverage gap between news outlets and what's impacting blacks in the US they're a clown.

temple
Jul 29, 2006



alansmithee posted:

It doesn't now only reflect one dimension, looking at the whole. And as far as "mainstream" rap it's always tended more towards one dimension anyways. Dudes seriously have a skewed view of the past and what music was out and available-PE wasn't just an outlier but isn't really that different than what Kanye was doing on some songs with Yeezus. When PE was actually making good music, I think MC Hammer had the best selling rap album.
What bothers me is the energy rappers put into informing us of their gang affiliation and the price of cocaine. But they resort to passive admission of police brutality, drug abuse, and socio-economy realities. People are bored of gently caress Da Police but they are still entertained by Dopeman. Some how some way, anti-oppression themes are muted.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010


temple posted:

What bothers me is the energy rappers put into informing us of their gang affiliation and the price of cocaine. But they resort to passive admission of police brutality, drug abuse, and socio-economy realities. People are bored of gently caress Da Police but they are still entertained by Dopeman. Some how some way, anti-oppression themes are muted.

Expecting every rapper to be Chuck D or NWA-era Ice Cube is straight up unfair. There's something to be said for balance in any genre when it comes to subject matter. Additionally, hip-hop tends to concern itself a great deal with authenticity, so I could see it going very poorly for rappers who concern themselves with the subject matter you brought up suddenly deciding they give a gently caress about things like what we're seeing in Missouri. Killer Mike has always talked about both sociopolitical stuff AND stuff like drug dealing. It works for him, it'd be a bit weird if Iggy Azalea tried that poo poo.

Crumbletron
Jul 21, 2006



IT'S YOUR BOY JESUS, MANE


I was gonna say Killer Mike still carries that torch. Dude hates the government and cops with a passion

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

A villain in your land, in his land a ruler


Grimey Drawer

temple posted:

What bothers me is the energy rappers put into informing us of their gang affiliation and the price of cocaine. But they resort to passive admission of police brutality, drug abuse, and socio-economy realities. People are bored of gently caress Da Police but they are still entertained by Dopeman. Some how some way, anti-oppression themes are muted.

That's not really a new change though. It took one year for NWA to go from 100 Miles and Runnin' to Niggaz4Life which is a totally different tone. And that stuff was mostly done by '92 and the "golden age".

Now, were there more "underground" dudes talking that stuff? Of course, but that's no different today. Besides, you can still find those themes in modern music. It's lazy to just point to NWA/PE and say nothing's like that anymore when 1) they weren't the norm in their time (or at least the more "anti-oppression themes in their music) and b) their careers weren't entirely that music.

And if you're going by sales or whatever, people are bored as gently caress by Dopeman as well.

Don't get me wrong, I'd appreciate more outwardly-aggressive gangsta music, but NWA was the aberration, not the norm for the era. Also when they came out that was a lot more shocking and impactful-now talking about shooting cops and gently caress that police isn't some anti-authoritarian statement, it's well-worn ground in rap.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007


Appropriate to the situation and to this discussion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwYYI7gmQlg

Akala can safely be considered underground, I think. And yeah, there is a lot of this stuff out there, you just have to look for it.

5 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012





Gucci vs. Guwop
http://www.audiomack.com/album/xclu.../gucci-vs-guwop

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010


Kenshin posted:

Appropriate to the situation and to this discussion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwYYI7gmQlg

Akala can safely be considered underground, I think. And yeah, there is a lot of this stuff out there, you just have to look for it.

I use that statement when people say "There's no good music right now". I find what they really mean usually is "There's no music I like being dropped directly in my lap by mainstream media outlets."

Oppenheimer
Dec 26, 2011

by Smythe



If that's actually recorded from prison the world does not deserve Gucci.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010





Oppenheimer posted:

If that's actually recorded from prison the world does not deserve Gucci.

It's not.

(apart from the intro)

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010


Not sure if it was mentioned but the new Armand Hammer EP (Billy Woods and Elucid) dropped last week. Race Music was one of the best rap albums from last year and Billy Woods is seriously the poo poo, so check it out.

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Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010





That new Shabazz Palaces album is very good. Production is amazing.

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