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Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012




Initial reaction to trap house 4 is: its good, but not as good as trap house 3.
edit:
for new page new king louie tape
http://www.datpiff.com/King-Louie-T...ape.626922.html

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Yeah okay man
Jun 16, 2012

Good for health
Bad for education


Cancel Guwop, Cancel Freddie G.

This is the only real poo poo from now on : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aktLRiWXfqg

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

Hope is a mistake


Kind of chewing on RiFF RAFF's new album, but it isn't as good as Hologram Panda, in my opinion. There are some really good tracks, though. He told Gawker he has another album coming out in two months, which is a surprise to no one. He also said he wants to do a video for every song on this album, which is a surprise to no one.

I love RiFF.

Also, can we revisit this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqGdgezwVkU
It's incredible.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010


alansmithee posted:

Yeah that was me. I love that album more every time I listen (which is a lot) and it's really the first one from this year I can think of as making any sort of year-end list (maybe god complex as well). It's also secretly the second darkest rap album in the last couple years or so (nothing's gonna top Cage's "Kill the Architect"). Speaking of which, I compared it earlier to Dour Candy by billy woods, but in hindsight it's probably more similar to a more subtle, less insular take on the same themes from Cage's album.

I'll have to actually get around to listening to Cage since he's always grouped with this kind of hip-hop and I tend to enjoy it. billy woods has been putting out some of my rap of the past couple of years.

Any more stuff you'd describe as "dark"? I tend to enjoy rappers/groups I get that vibe from, like Sadistik, Eyedea & Abilities, The Roots during the 2000s, etc.

Henchman of Santa fucked around with this message at Jul 5, 2014 around 13:07

Tom Smykowski
Jan 27, 2005

I already told you: I deal with the god damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the hell is wrong with you people?


getting this just because of datpiff user Guest's comment

quote:

This mother fucker made a selena reference, that poo poo dont pass with me

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3967 days!


Shredded Hen

Who can hook me up with a CDQ/320 copy of Burrprint (Movie 3D)? Quality is pretty bad on all the ones I found.

PS. Trap House 4 is pretty drat good. I like it more than Brick Factory.

Previous Jesus
Jun 5, 2013


Henchman of Santa posted:

I'll have to actually get around to listening to Cage since he's always grouped with this kind of hip-hop and I tend to enjoy it. billy woods has been putting out some of my rap of the past couple of years.

Any more stuff you'd describe as "dark"? I tend to enjoy rappers/groups I get that vibe from, like Sadistik, Eyedea & Abilities, The Roots during the 2000s, etc.

If you like Sadistik and Eyedea and somehow haven't listened to Skelethon by Aesop Rock or Cancer for Cure by El-P, you should. Skeleton, Cancer for Cure, and Kill the Architect are all pretty dark albums they wrote after their close friend died of lung cancer. Danny Brown's stuff can be dark too but I'm not sure if you'd like it as much.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010


I am into all of those artists. El-P is my favorite producer, if that also helps.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

A villain in your land, in his land a ruler


Grimey Drawer

Henchman of Santa posted:

I'll have to actually get around to listening to Cage since he's always grouped with this kind of hip-hop and I tend to enjoy it. billy woods has been putting out some of my rap of the past couple of years.

Any more stuff you'd describe as "dark"? I tend to enjoy rappers/groups I get that vibe from, like Sadistik, Eyedea & Abilities, The Roots during the 2000s, etc.

If you dig that kind of stuff you should check pretty much all of Cage's catalog. Movies for the blind, hell's winter, and kill the architect are all great (depart from me had like 1 or 2 good songs, a couple more passable, and the rest was pure trash, definitely one of the biggest disappointments record-wise for me). Also Leak Bros (Cage and Tame-One). Here's one of his first songs, for instance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rgtp_qOfHA

Big thing is that there's not many that carry that type of tone throughout the whole album. That's the thing about "Kill the Architect"-it doesn't stop. But for some other stuff:

I'd check Buck 65-Man Overboard, Talking Honky Blues, Secret House Against The World. The last two definitely strain the definition of "rap", but if you trim out some of the outliers they definitely fit. You might as well check some of the other early anticon dudes-Sixtoo, Sole, Slug, and Doseone would be the notable ones. Grab the first (? I think it was first) anticon sampler "Music for the Advancement of Hip-Hop" (try not to roll your eyes too hard at the title, and put it in the context of the time) and see what all off of there you like. If you dig it I can do a more full writeup on some of the early anticon years and whatnot (since there's tons of random singles and eps and the dudes had albums coming out on all sorts of different labels and whatnot). You'll find stuff like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bh8ZswJHL4

Along that same line, early Atoms Family dudes deserve a look. I'm assuming you already know Can-Ox. I'd avoid Hangar 18 for dark stuff though since they have way too much bounce and pep (although I like their stuff, it's just not in that vein). Cryptic One's "Anti-Mobius Strip Theory" should be something you'd dig a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9zlTIpGvmc

For some newer stuff, Lucki Eck$ album was surprisingly dark imo. Same for Patriarch I by Deniro Fararr (although that's a lot more regular gangsta stuff). Also Gorgeous Children-their stuff kinda reminds me of "Kill the Architect" if it wasn't made by a burnout nihilist. Their last EP was just ok but the self-titled one was great (it's essentially a modern-day "Tha Infamous"), and the individual dudes have some stuff floating around:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsEk4Obh1Dg

On the billy woods tip, GDP put out a great album a couple years ago that has that same semi-political bent, so check for that for sure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8995UdVSok

I'll try to think of some more later, but that should be a good start.

Budget Prefuse
Sep 26, 2011



did you see that gorgeous children is going to have a feature on the new rustie album? surprised the gently caress out of me. had no idea they were getting big

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

A villain in your land, in his land a ruler


Grimey Drawer

Prefuse posted:

did you see that gorgeous children is going to have a feature on the new rustie album? surprised the gently caress out of me. had no idea they were getting big

They seem to get mentioned absolutely zero by regular people but are always on a bunch of magazine features and stuff, and always touring with some pretty big names, usually in the EDM scene. That album's also gonna have Danny Brown on it so hopefully it's decent.

InfrastructureWeek
Oct 16, 2008

time is a flat circle


Nap Ghost

Oh, guess this should go here:

gently caress with this: Young Wasted - The Ill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O89xJOWlaac

Plum Chaser
Jul 2, 2011

by Lowtax


Is anyone in here into Smug Mangs poo poo?

https://soundcloud.com/smugmang/drive-by-feat-john-boy

https://soundcloud.com/smugmang/let...aters-talk-prod

https://soundcloud.com/smugmang/ny-...t-sg-rilla-mane

https://soundcloud.com/smugmang/sam...vier-wulf-bones

Never heard of him before, liking some of his stuff. Anyone know what his best mixtape/tracks are? Too many for me to listen through right now.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010


alansmithee posted:

If you dig that kind of stuff you should check pretty much all of Cage's catalog. Movies for the blind, hell's winter, and kill the architect are all great (depart from me had like 1 or 2 good songs, a couple more passable, and the rest was pure trash, definitely one of the biggest disappointments record-wise for me). Also Leak Bros (Cage and Tame-One). Here's one of his first songs, for instance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rgtp_qOfHA

Big thing is that there's not many that carry that type of tone throughout the whole album. That's the thing about "Kill the Architect"-it doesn't stop. But for some other stuff:

I'd check Buck 65-Man Overboard, Talking Honky Blues, Secret House Against The World. The last two definitely strain the definition of "rap", but if you trim out some of the outliers they definitely fit. You might as well check some of the other early anticon dudes-Sixtoo, Sole, Slug, and Doseone would be the notable ones. Grab the first (? I think it was first) anticon sampler "Music for the Advancement of Hip-Hop" (try not to roll your eyes too hard at the title, and put it in the context of the time) and see what all off of there you like. If you dig it I can do a more full writeup on some of the early anticon years and whatnot (since there's tons of random singles and eps and the dudes had albums coming out on all sorts of different labels and whatnot). You'll find stuff like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bh8ZswJHL4

Along that same line, early Atoms Family dudes deserve a look. I'm assuming you already know Can-Ox. I'd avoid Hangar 18 for dark stuff though since they have way too much bounce and pep (although I like their stuff, it's just not in that vein). Cryptic One's "Anti-Mobius Strip Theory" should be something you'd dig a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9zlTIpGvmc

For some newer stuff, Lucki Eck$ album was surprisingly dark imo. Same for Patriarch I by Deniro Fararr (although that's a lot more regular gangsta stuff). Also Gorgeous Children-their stuff kinda reminds me of "Kill the Architect" if it wasn't made by a burnout nihilist. Their last EP was just ok but the self-titled one was great (it's essentially a modern-day "Tha Infamous"), and the individual dudes have some stuff floating around:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsEk4Obh1Dg

On the billy woods tip, GDP put out a great album a couple years ago that has that same semi-political bent, so check for that for sure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8995UdVSok

I'll try to think of some more later, but that should be a good start.

I'll check those out. Thanks so much!

Chwoka
Jan 27, 2008

I'm Abed, and I never watch TV.



Yo sorry to kill the thread off soon as it begins but I'm pretty sure this is the only rap song you'll ever need

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtH3_ZfJq2Q

Dr. Shithead
Jun 27, 2008

You got your rhythm goin' now?


I know it's two days late but merica:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTkHl9jK0Co&feature=kp

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011


If I like Astronautalis and Boots Riley, who else should I listen to? Any rappers notable for primarily using live instrumentation in their songs?

asap-salafi
May 5, 2012

I wasn't driving down the wrong side of the street, smoking marijuana, waving my gun out the window.


Hey new thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LyiriE6eo

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb




DOOP posted:

If I like Astronautalis and Boots Riley, who else should I listen to? Any rappers notable for primarily using live instrumentation in their songs?

The Roots and Chance the Rapper

plogo
Jan 20, 2009


serbp posted:

Hey guys, I recently started listening to Roc Marciano and Ka, and I was wondering if anybody could recommend (preferably newer) rappers who use the same type of production, or just actual producers if you can't think of any rappers

like similar to the beats 17:10 and 26:00 on this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1hDpufNXd0

and at around 34:00 and 37:30 on this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N92qRfDSxQ

You might enjoy this nas copycat https://soundcloud.com/your-old-dro...ur-old-droog-ep

Bulging Nipples
Jan 16, 2006


Anyone else like Boldy James? I really enjoyed My First Chemistry Set. Looks like he just signed with Nas and dropped this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e5qWSDHXPQ


Pete Rock was just on the Combat Jack show too, two hour interview. I'm halfway through so far and it's really good.

https://soundcloud.com/thecombatjac...te-rock-episode

40 lbs to freedom
Apr 13, 2007




holy crap this slaps. all three kill it. ferg gets better and better i think.

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

40 lbs to freedom posted:

holy crap this slaps. all three kill it. ferg gets better and better i think.

It'd be funny if it turned out he ghost-wrote for the whole of A$AP.

Budget Prefuse
Sep 26, 2011



just got back from a festival and YG is a fantastic performer live. i also saw danny brown again and i really liked his show this time around. he seemed genuinely happy instead of bored and sad like the last time i saw him.

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

Prefuse posted:

just got back from a festival and YG is a fantastic performer live. i also saw danny brown again and i really liked his show this time around. he seemed genuinely happy instead of bored and sad like the last time i saw him.

Did you stick around for Earl?

Budget Prefuse
Sep 26, 2011



Boywhiz88 posted:

Did you stick around for Earl?
earl cancelled at the last minute

Rah!
Feb 21, 2006



It is now time for Galaxy Atoms:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKnoAhgcYqA

Dude is San Quinn's son, which means it is now time for San Quinn as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WFy8Q-gdrc

Bonus 1990s San Quinn:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWds0TmdP5I

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010


DOOP posted:

If I like Astronautalis and Boots Riley, who else should I listen to? Any rappers notable for primarily using live instrumentation in their songs?

Not sure how much live instrumentation he really uses (although he himself can play guitar and drums), but P.O.S. is great and has collaborated with Astronautalis, who is also from the Minneapolis scene.

Listerine Hangover
Aug 5, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo


Henchman of Santa posted:

Not sure how much live instrumentation he really uses (although he himself can play guitar and drums), but P.O.S. is great and has collaborated with Astronautalis, who is also from the Minneapolis scene.

Astronautalis is from Jacksonville, not that anybody cares. Duval county as a whole is notorious for being an ignorant violent place, but there's a great deal of conscious lyrical rap that's come out of the area. One of my favorite rappers from that "scene" was Tough Junkie.

http://youtu.be/VjCdTDgkBEE

GET MONEY
Sep 7, 2003



Speaking of Jacksonville, I grabbed this Ty2 - Versaveli mixtape a little while ago. Has some good moments, there's a part 2 of Love Don't Live Here on there too. If you gently caress with Kevin Gates he's a pretty clear influence on this kid's sound.

I think this was the stand out track,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orw0zPNHEuc

im gay
Jul 20, 2013

by Lowtax


Some Japanese cloud-esque rapper that references anime a bunch. That beat.

Cool Buff Man
Jul 30, 2006

bitch


lol

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010





thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3967 days!


Shredded Hen

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010


Neu! posted:

Astronautalis is from Jacksonville, not that anybody cares. Duval county as a whole is notorious for being an ignorant violent place, but there's a great deal of conscious lyrical rap that's come out of the area. One of my favorite rappers from that "scene" was Tough Junkie.

http://youtu.be/VjCdTDgkBEE

He's since relocated and pops up on various Doomtree releases.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

A villain in your land, in his land a ruler


Grimey Drawer

serbp posted:

I listened to the Doppelgangaz new album and to Rawhyde as well, and I'm liking them so far. I'm also really liking that Boldy James album, more specifically the songs Moochie, Rappies, and Give Me a Reason. I've been recently listening to The Alchemist's work recently too, and I really like his style (his production work on Action Bronson's mixtape was amazing, and is the only reason I would listen to Action Bronson). if you could think of other stuff similar to him that's currently out there I would appreciate it (I also really enjoy when producers use old funk/jazz samples, or just try to have a jazzy/funky vibe with the song).

I hadn't forgotten about this.

If you haven't heard them yet, check Russian Roulette (Alchemist's album) and Return of the Mac (Prodigy's album with Al on production). He also produced an album for Willie the Kid last year so you may wanna check that.

It's a bit hard to find more recent stuff similar to him just because dudes have largely been going away from sample-based production. You may like Quelle Chris (Shotgun & Sleek Rifle was really good, the other stuff isn't bad but didn't grab me as much). I'd also look for anything from the loose "Beast Coast" collective (Joey Badass, Pro Era, Flatbush Zombies, The Underachievers). They're not totally like the stuff you mention, but they're heavily influenced by the early/mid 90's sound so you can get a new take on it.

Also there seems like there's a couple newer things that are super-obvious that I'm missing that are more recent, but I can't think of them. Also if you're not averse to old stuff there's a ton that would fit the bill, but depending on quality or w/e it can sound a bit dated.

Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007


I really enjoy the TeamBackpack cyphers. Not because they're always good, but because it's a really great way of finding up-and-coming rappers whose style I like.

Duckwrth and Peoples are great in today's--I've been keeping an eye on Duckwrth for when he drops an album or mixtape, and I'll now be watching for something from Peoples. Grynch just didn't bring it though, which I hate to admit since he's repping Seattle, but oh well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3AbrzRWpE


Duckwrth's recent "short film" (as opposed to music video I guess since there's several pauses in the music and the music changes several times for different scenes) is pretty chill:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0w8lTBEKlI

Kenshin fucked around with this message at Jul 7, 2014 around 15:57

serbp
Nov 30, 2013


alansmithee posted:

I hadn't forgotten about this.

If you haven't heard them yet, check Russian Roulette (Alchemist's album) and Return of the Mac (Prodigy's album with Al on production). He also produced an album for Willie the Kid last year so you may wanna check that.

It's a bit hard to find more recent stuff similar to him just because dudes have largely been going away from sample-based production. You may like Quelle Chris (Shotgun & Sleek Rifle was really good, the other stuff isn't bad but didn't grab me as much). I'd also look for anything from the loose "Beast Coast" collective (Joey Badass, Pro Era, Flatbush Zombies, The Underachievers). They're not totally like the stuff you mention, but they're heavily influenced by the early/mid 90's sound so you can get a new take on it.

Also there seems like there's a couple newer things that are super-obvious that I'm missing that are more recent, but I can't think of them. Also if you're not averse to old stuff there's a ton that would fit the bill, but depending on quality or w/e it can sound a bit dated.

Thanks for the reply. Already know about Quelle Chris (I like a few other producers from Mello Music Group like Apollo Brown), Pro Era and Flatbush Zombies, and I like them. Although it seems to me after Capital Steez killed himself that Pro Era really isn't doing that much (I might be wrong and if I am you can correct me).

Also, I'm not averse to old stuff at all, it's just I wanted suggestions to see if there are new artists putting out stuff still. If you've got any suggestions I'd love to hear them.

spoils
Nov 2, 2012


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK2oHpQdJh4
nardwuar interview of wu tang. Pretty cool
Highlight: Guy invented the modem listening to Wu tang

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youngallah
Mar 14, 2012


Texas Trill:

Houston: Doughbeezy & Killa Kyleon aka Watch The Chrome with a new video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDnHisTmbH8
Propain been makin noise too for a minute ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEkp9JKCrXg
Bunch more cats comin up: Maxo Kream, The Outfit TX, Uzoy, Branzil etc

Dallas: A.Dd+ are basically the new age underground kings of DFW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a90nk-J6HhM
Now that they have management looking to try to break them in Atlanta hopefully they can get a good label deal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LymUqqr34vs
Snow Tha Product is from Cali but she popped out of Fort Worth with a Houston manager, she's dope with a lot of potential https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPx5biGI0jk

San Antonio: The young ninja Worldwide is gonna be makin noise soon with his Timele$$ Crew, keep an eye out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZmQIjAeYQ8
He used to roll with the 3rd Degree cats who were super big in the underground Texas scene in the early days https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYawgZ_L7SM
There's also Milli Mars who with the producer WhizKid is doing his own thing. Not the biggest fan but they've got a dope and unique vision. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME6QSbhL-OM

Austin: the big homie Kydd Jones is the truth! don't be surprised when he ends up with TDE, GOOD music or some other big label https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mz1-du6tQA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwbOzwubYDw
him and his brother (Tank Washington) are probably the best rappers in Austin, if not Texas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKGpViGuhIA
The LOEGz are also a dope group out of Austin that are making noise right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgwJ522nUTc

jea

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