alansmithee posted:

Yeah that was me. I love that album more every time I listen (which is a lot) and it's really the first one from this year I can think of as making any sort of year-end list (maybe god complex as well). It's also secretly the second darkest rap album in the last couple years or so (nothing's gonna top Cage's "Kill the Architect"). Speaking of which, I compared it earlier to Dour Candy by billy woods, but in hindsight it's probably more similar to a more subtle, less insular take on the same themes from Cage's album.

Profondo Rosso posted:

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This mother fucker made a selena reference, that poo poo dont pass with me

Henchman of Santa posted:

I'll have to actually get around to listening to Cage since he's always grouped with this kind of hip-hop and I tend to enjoy it. billy woods has been putting out some of my rap of the past couple of years.

Any more stuff you'd describe as "dark"? I tend to enjoy rappers/groups I get that vibe from, like Sadistik, Eyedea & Abilities, The Roots during the 2000s, etc.

Henchman of Santa posted:

I'll have to actually get around to listening to Cage since he's always grouped with this kind of hip-hop and I tend to enjoy it. billy woods has been putting out some of my rap of the past couple of years.

Any more stuff you'd describe as "dark"? I tend to enjoy rappers/groups I get that vibe from, like Sadistik, Eyedea & Abilities, The Roots during the 2000s, etc.

alansmithee posted:

Prefuse posted:

did you see that gorgeous children is going to have a feature on the new rustie album? surprised the gently caress out of me. had no idea they were getting big

alansmithee posted:

If you dig that kind of stuff you should check pretty much all of Cage's catalog. Movies for the blind, hell's winter, and kill the architect are all great (depart from me had like 1 or 2 good songs, a couple more passable, and the rest was pure trash, definitely one of the biggest disappointments record-wise for me). Also Leak Bros (Cage and Tame-One). Here's one of his first songs, for instance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rgtp_qOfHA

Big thing is that there's not many that carry that type of tone throughout the whole album. That's the thing about "Kill the Architect"-it doesn't stop. But for some other stuff:

I'd check Buck 65-Man Overboard, Talking Honky Blues, Secret House Against The World. The last two definitely strain the definition of "rap", but if you trim out some of the outliers they definitely fit. You might as well check some of the other early anticon dudes-Sixtoo, Sole, Slug, and Doseone would be the notable ones. Grab the first (? I think it was first) anticon sampler "Music for the Advancement of Hip-Hop" (try not to roll your eyes too hard at the title, and put it in the context of the time) and see what all off of there you like. If you dig it I can do a more full writeup on some of the early anticon years and whatnot (since there's tons of random singles and eps and the dudes had albums coming out on all sorts of different labels and whatnot). You'll find stuff like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bh8ZswJHL4

Along that same line, early Atoms Family dudes deserve a look. I'm assuming you already know Can-Ox. I'd avoid Hangar 18 for dark stuff though since they have way too much bounce and pep (although I like their stuff, it's just not in that vein). Cryptic One's "Anti-Mobius Strip Theory" should be something you'd dig a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9zlTIpGvmc

For some newer stuff, Lucki Eck$ album was surprisingly dark imo. Same for Patriarch I by Deniro Fararr (although that's a lot more regular gangsta stuff). Also Gorgeous Children-their stuff kinda reminds me of "Kill the Architect" if it wasn't made by a burnout nihilist. Their last EP was just ok but the self-titled one was great (it's essentially a modern-day "Tha Infamous"), and the individual dudes have some stuff floating around:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsEk4Obh1Dg

On the billy woods tip, GDP put out a great album a couple years ago that has that same semi-political bent, so check for that for sure:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8995UdVSok

I'll try to think of some more later, but that should be a good start.

DOOP posted:

If I like Astronautalis and Boots Riley, who else should I listen to? Any rappers notable for primarily using live instrumentation in their songs?

serbp posted:

Hey guys, I recently started listening to Roc Marciano and Ka, and I was wondering if anybody could recommend (preferably newer) rappers who use the same type of production, or just actual producers if you can't think of any rappers

like similar to the beats 17:10 and 26:00 on this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1hDpufNXd0

and at around 34:00 and 37:30 on this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N92qRfDSxQ

asap-salafi posted:

Hey new thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LyiriE6eo

40 lbs to freedom posted:

holy crap this slaps. all three kill it. ferg gets better and better i think.

Prefuse posted:

just got back from a festival and YG is a fantastic performer live. i also saw danny brown again and i really liked his show this time around. he seemed genuinely happy instead of bored and sad like the last time i saw him.

Boywhiz88 posted:

Did you stick around for Earl?

DOOP posted:

If I like Astronautalis and Boots Riley, who else should I listen to? Any rappers notable for primarily using live instrumentation in their songs?

Henchman of Santa posted:

Not sure how much live instrumentation he really uses (although he himself can play guitar and drums), but P.O.S. is great and has collaborated with Astronautalis, who is also from the Minneapolis scene.

im gay posted:

Some Japanese cloud-esque rapper that references anime a bunch. That beat.

Cool Buff Man posted:

lol

Cool Buff Man posted:

lol

Neu! posted:

Astronautalis is from Jacksonville, not that anybody cares. Duval county as a whole is notorious for being an ignorant violent place, but there's a great deal of conscious lyrical rap that's come out of the area. One of my favorite rappers from that "scene" was Tough Junkie.

http://youtu.be/VjCdTDgkBEE

serbp posted:

I listened to the Doppelgangaz new album and to Rawhyde as well, and I'm liking them so far. I'm also really liking that Boldy James album, more specifically the songs Moochie, Rappies, and Give Me a Reason. I've been recently listening to The Alchemist's work recently too, and I really like his style (his production work on Action Bronson's mixtape was amazing, and is the only reason I would listen to Action Bronson). if you could think of other stuff similar to him that's currently out there I would appreciate it (I also really enjoy when producers use old funk/jazz samples, or just try to have a jazzy/funky vibe with the song).

alansmithee posted:

I hadn't forgotten about this.

If you haven't heard them yet, check Russian Roulette (Alchemist's album) and Return of the Mac (Prodigy's album with Al on production). He also produced an album for Willie the Kid last year so you may wanna check that.

It's a bit hard to find more recent stuff similar to him just because dudes have largely been going away from sample-based production. You may like Quelle Chris (Shotgun & Sleek Rifle was really good, the other stuff isn't bad but didn't grab me as much). I'd also look for anything from the loose "Beast Coast" collective (Joey Badass, Pro Era, Flatbush Zombies, The Underachievers). They're not totally like the stuff you mention, but they're heavily influenced by the early/mid 90's sound so you can get a new take on it.

Also there seems like there's a couple newer things that are super-obvious that I'm missing that are more recent, but I can't think of them. Also if you're not averse to old stuff there's a ton that would fit the bill, but depending on quality or w/e it can sound a bit dated.