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temple
Jul 29, 2006



I enjoyed rap music more than RTJ but all three albums are similar. They are too dark and rappidy rap. Killer Mike is technically impressive but his delivery grates on me. I can't unhear his ratatata ratatata flow from that first outkast song he did with the african singing. But I like to read his lyrics. El-P is cool, a favorite of mine, but I can only take a few songs from him until I'm completely numb. His production is overwhelming and not in an entertaining way. I've listened to both RTJ albums multiple times and I was disappointed by both. They never live up the hype and never seem to be better than anything else out there. Flatbush Zombies, Odd Future, even Kanye is doing everything RTJ does. RTJ had good branding and good will with the right internet people to make it buzz. But I can't think of anything on those albums that is noteworthy other than it being real hiphop for people that are too cool for real hiphop. If El-P used break beats, they would probably hate it.

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Kenshin
Jan 10, 2007


I really like RTJ but I do agree with you on that, temple: it is a bit intense to listen to. If I listen to the whole album I need to take a break from it for a while and listen to something more chill.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010


Pretty much all of those things are stuff I like in hip-hop. It sounds more like RTJ doesn't suit your tastes than like it's overhyped.

Also lol, Odd Future. And Flatbush Zombies are fun but I don't really hear the similarities.

Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".

El-P has been solid for years. Look up Cannibal Ox's The Cold Vein from years ago, which El-P produced. It's amazing.

temple
Jul 29, 2006



Henchman of Santa posted:

Pretty much all of those things are stuff I like in hip-hop. It sounds more like RTJ doesn't suit your tastes than like it's overhyped.

Also lol, Odd Future. And Flatbush Zombies are fun but I don't really hear the similarities.
It can be both not my taste and overhyped. Can we just cut to the chase and have a katana duel over this album?

Odd and Flatbush make dark, angry rap to much better effect than Killer Mike's fat mouth trying to say tongue twisters or El-P describing intense alien violence and dick jokes.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010


temple posted:

It can be both not my taste and overhyped. Can we just cut to the chase and have a katana duel over this album?
That would be more fitting for an argument about Wu-Tang.

5 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012



It's overhyped on the internet for sure. It's one of those albums that the really vocal internet music nerds love. It's a blog album. Whether it's intended to be an album that reddits hip hop section or not(almost certainly not) it really resonates with them for whatever reason (which is hilarious). It's angry, anti-establishment, "funny", weird, well-produced, in your face, which is everything internet weirdos love and aspire to be but aren't.

I have solved the album and the internet, Thank you god bless

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Probation
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Shredded Hen

All valid criticisms but Killer Mike still delivers my favorite political verses. Lie, Cheat, Steal is great. It's kinda weird that El-P's contributions dont really seem to align on that subject matter at all though...

And i really agree with the production being too grating across the whole albums (though RTJ2 corrects this or tries to at least) but even sometimes within a singular song... Like Especially on that zach de la rocha song good god that vocal sample did not deserve to be the foundation for an entire beat

thathonkey fucked around with this message at Oct 27, 2014 around 16:02

Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013

GIRL POWER


Grimey Drawer

Robert Analog posted:

I was hoping Drake was gonna embarrass himself with some fake gang stuff, but after looking it up it's something about Toronto's area codes and it seems dumb.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/tanyachen/t...ke-the-6-happen

lol, oh Drake.

power botton
Nov 2, 2011



Now i need a Gucci frankentape called "Views from the 6"

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Grimey Drawer

temple posted:

It can be both not my taste and overhyped. Can we just cut to the chase and have a katana duel over this album?

Odd and Flatbush make dark, angry rap to much better effect than Killer Mike's fat mouth trying to say tongue twisters or El-P describing intense alien violence and dick jokes.
They're not "overhyped" when most dudes actually really enjoy their music. "I do not like popular thing" =/ overhyped. Overhyped implies that the publicity and ephemera around it are far greater than the actual music, whereas the actual music here is actually extremely good.

El-P as a producer stacks up (qualitywise, obv not saleswise) against anyone in the history of rap. Like most good producers have a particular sound that they start, and then wear out because they can't change, or try to change but their efforts fall flat outside whatever style they are known for initially. El-P's a dude who's been able to make amazingly produced albums over a long period of time, while keeping a signature sound and updating it so it's never stale. Like I can't think of but maybe 10 dudes I'd put up with him as a producer (and even that number may be generous).

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010


I also just don't think of RTJ as dark or angry. The first album is as much fun as I've ever had listening to a rap album. R.A.P. Music is a lot angrier but when I think of "dark" hip-hop I think of like Billy Woods.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Probation
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Shredded Hen

All i know is i am the exact right amount of hyped for the RTJ show next week

Mao Zedong Thot
Oct 16, 2008




Taco Defender

echronorian posted:

I've been waiting for a Despot album for more than a third of my life http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYQOGH_IqCY

Dude can rock a mic, how come I can't buy his album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1hjNTR4AQw

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011





Pillbug

Rae Sremmurd did a nice track with Baauer and Alunageorge: http://www.thefader.com/2014/10/27/...eorge-one-touch

Also holy poo poo why have I been sleeping on OG Maco https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsag6pbNYR4

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007

gotta love me

polpotpotpotpotpot posted:

Dude can rock a mic, how come I can't buy his album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1hjNTR4AQw

Crap Artists gives me goosebumps still and I've heard it at least a hundred times, starting with his MySpace page like 9 years ago.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3387 days!


Shredded Hen

temple posted:

I can't unhear his ratatata ratatata flow from that first outkast song he did with the african singing.

that's honestly really unfortunate and I am not going to try to change your mind about something like that but out of curiousity is this the song you were talking about - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udmTfK6_aM8 ?

edit: anyway he has come a long way since then (2001) at least but yeah he will occasionally fallback on that same flow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbMy-mXMH-0

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Omerta
Feb 19, 2007

I thought short arms were good for benching

temple posted:

El-P is cool, a favorite of mine, but I can only take a few songs from him until I'm completely numb. His production is overwhelming and not in an entertaining way.

I get what you're saying. El-P tends to come in two flavors: schizophrenic and dystopian (or both). I definitely have to be in the right mood to listen to him or it just isn't particularly enjoyable.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010





Just bought the new Ugly Mane and I have RTJ2 still to listen to


Also Carter V got delayed for anyone who cares

Skeezy
Jul 3, 2007



Time for Sorry for the Wait pt 2

5 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012



Rich Gang is the best group of the 2010s

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3387 days!


Shredded Hen


guwop posted:

It feels great to see my plan take root and begin to blossom even though Iím physically incarcerated but spiritually and mentally Iím free as ever. I enjoy working out molding my body and I look forward to changing my diet for the better because I realize to get to the status I crave I must make a life-change which is permanent not a quick-fix.


gucci '16

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007

gotta love me

I hope when he comes he comes out hard as he implies there. I like Gucci and think he can make better music than he is.

Insanely Sikh
Aug 26, 2009

Winner, SA's Sikh Of the Year, 2013


More like Traps God hahahaha

InnercityGriot
Dec 31, 2008


Civil posted:

El-P has been solid for years. Look up Cannibal Ox's The Cold Vein from years ago, which El-P produced. It's amazing.

This is real true. The Cold Vein is a great album, I still remember some dipshit in this thread telling me he thought Exquire's rapping over those beats was better than the Cannibal Ox stuff, and I wanted to kick dude in the forehead.

spoils
Nov 2, 2012


InnercityGriot posted:

This is real true. The Cold Vein is a great album, I still remember some dipshit in this thread telling me he thought Exquire's rapping over those beats was better than the Cannibal Ox stuff, and I wanted to kick dude in the forehead.

sounds traumatizing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3yxCBcjh2E

More importantly: OLD SCHOOL EARL https://soundcloud.com/imremark/ear...ts-full-version

Alan Smithee where are you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHFsciJcR1k

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Joe Gillian
Jan 13, 2012

"Just flew off the handle, and boy are my arms tired."


That new Lupe track is really good.

http://youtu.be/01MMgG7bYBE

Miguel Prado
Nov 5, 2008

Don't worry, like they say " It's all good! "

I don't post much but I had to share these two tracks by Inglewood's own Skeme,

https://soundcloud.com/skemesgodb/peace-of-mind

https://soundcloud.com/skemesgodb/promise

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010





Nicki delayed til december

baram.
Oct 23, 2007

smooth.


Grimey Drawer

Carter V got pushed back too but everyone expects that.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3387 days!


Shredded Hen

YMCMB crumblin' if it weren't for drake

40 lbs to freedom
Apr 13, 2007



EATIN SHRIMP posted:

Rich Gang is the best group of the 2010s

i super hope you are talking about thugga/quan and not the super butthole ymcmb b-track posse cut albums.



if youre talking about thugga/quan yeah that album loving rules

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010





sorry 5 the wait

Big Anime Fan Here
Sep 8, 2010

by XyloJW



Thanks I forgot about this cool song

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004



Future's tape is out at 10:28 tonight

http://www.datpiff.com/Future-Monst...ape.652571.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjzQI2VFR-k

temple
Jul 29, 2006



thathonkey posted:

but out of curiousity is this the song you were talking about - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udmTfK6_aM8 ?
This song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZr89H66hSY

doctor thodt
Apr 2, 2004



EATIN SHRIMP posted:

Rich Gang is the best group of the 2010s

Speaking of

https://twitter.com/ComplexMusic/st...912580787654657

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3387 days!


Shredded Hen


aha holy crap forgot about this song altogether. flow is admittedly weak but......... song still owns man thanks for reminding me

K-I-L-L

fake edit: anyway, wanted to also point out that I wasn't really feeling the Boots song from RTJ 2 at all but the chorus part that he does got stuck in my head today and Mike's verse is really good on there even though the two sound kinda weird together

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeR41A4w69Y

5 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012




Ahhhh this will be the best thanksgiving

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thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Probation
Can't post for 3387 days!


Shredded Hen

it sounds like this is supposed to be an itunes bonus track or something? not sure what that means for a free album but it's on soundcloud again now

Run the Jewels - Blockbuster Night Part 2 (feat. Despot)


god hell yes.

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